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[–]brb1006 566 points567 points  (33 children)

Here's the website for "Last Squeak Tonight" that John Oliver created as an alternative to this week's episode (for viewers under 30) dedicated to Chuck E. Cheese. Complete with a 25 minute long video discussing the chain, Showbiz Pizza, and the return of Mickey Mouse from last week's episode.

[–]Luimnigh 361 points362 points  (19 children)

...I find it fucking hilarious that Chuck E Cheese is removing it's animatronics, citing that children aren't intetested in pizza-chain animatronics anymore, when children are actually super interested in pizza chain animatronics.

All Chuck E Cheese needs to do is some cross-brand promotion with Freddy Fazbear, and the kids will flood in.

[–]lynypixie 53 points54 points  (12 children)

Seriously. I have teens and they want it. Like, really want it. We live in Canada, so we don’t have it.

[–]SmokeontheHorizon 30 points31 points  (9 children)

There are 10 Chuck E Cheese locations in Canada.

Langley BC

Regina SK

Calgary AB

Edmonton AB x2

Mississauga ON x2

North York ON

Vaughan ON

Whitby ON

[–]kaenneth 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I would trade them all the have the Flintstones theme park in Chilliwack back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi3zUXpnEno

[–]SmokeontheHorizon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh man how have I never heard of this! And I can't believe that shut down, but somehow Santa's Village in Bracebridge is doing as well as ever.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Wait l, the fuck? There’s one in North York? I’ve never even seen it before!

[–]LJofthelaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's one in Calgary. Or was one.

[–]BRAX7ON 17 points18 points  (0 children)

If children ever gave a fuck about pizza chain animatronics, they still give a fuck about pizza chain animatronics…

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

*its animatronics

[–]switch8000 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Honestly they should figure out a way to bridge the animatronics with something STEM related. If you were a kid and you could go learn some basic programming or mechanics and make those animatronics be programmed to do something basic. That would be really cool.

[–]brb1006 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Shit, I always got excited on visiting Chuck E Cheese as a kid for the animatronic shows compared to the games.

[–]JonBunne 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I find it ridiculous that I’ll never own a home. Still learned about chuck-e-cheese though so maybe I should go hard in the stock market.

[–]Reven- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Add like teen age and adult attractions like escape rooms and stuff.

[–]ocelot08 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Under 35. I'm part of the group!

[–]TheBigIdiotSalami 58 points59 points  (5 children)

Five Nights at Freddy franchise lied to a generation of children. These friggin animatronics rock when they play Usher's Love in this Club. He should have gone deeper cause the guy that made that video is a Q anon Trump guy that makes the animatronics say shit like the storm is coming and four more years of trump in the voices.

[–]sposda 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Aaron Fechter who created the animatronics is a nutcase, Chris Thrash made the Usher video

[–]Xalimata 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I knew he was a republican but he's a Q guy too?

[–]sgthombreIt's Always Sunny in Philadelphia 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Oliver made a joke one time about the web exclusive content being better than the main series but honestly, I think it is.

[–]VeryLowIQIndividual 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Went to Chuck E Cheese recently for a nieces BD…what a shithole. No tokens, no tickets, just over priced play cards that run on a timer not per play. The games were barley functional and lasted maybe 30 seconds. A lot of the times the game lasted one turn that was over before you even understood what was going on, so fast that you didn’t know if it was working or not. Saw a lot of kids sitting at the table with their mom or dads looking at their iPhones bc they had run through their game cards before the pizza even got to the table.

You had to pay extra to see the “show” which was a screen with about 5 minutes of pre-taped kids singing pop song covers that was also playing in the main room with all the games.

The Pizza was a cardboard tomato paste pie which I found out was listed in DoorDash as “Pasqually's Pizza”.

[–]brb1006 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Yes CEC removed the idea of "Tickets and Token" recently, which I dearly miss because I always loved visiting the "Ticket Muncher" machine since it made sounds as it was taking your tickets.

I remember having very fond memories of my first and second visits to Chuck E. Cheese in the late 90s and early 2000s. I remember the pizza (at least in my area) tasted so good and was where I brought the Direct-To-Video Chuck E. Cheese Movie (by Funimation) which I purchased from the amount of tokens I gained from my first visit. When I visited the place again (I believe somewhere in Delaware or South Carolina), I started noticing how awful some of the food tasted. A far cry from my previous visits in the late 90s and early 2000s. I still remember how good the pizza tasted which is difficult to described.

[–]hamsterfolly 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Showbiz Pizza was the best!

[–]drbhrb 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That was better than the main story

[–]danielbgoo 250 points251 points  (93 children)

This whole episode really stressed me the fuck out.

[–]crosstrackerror 62 points63 points  (0 children)

“I don’t understand what’s going on..”

Clearly

[–]TheFirstMotherOfGod 168 points169 points  (82 children)

Yeah the US is making me fucking depressed. How is any of this legal or oke? I'm honestly disturbed. 80% of the houses come with a HOA and you can't even see all of their rules until after you bought the house? Them buying your house for almost $4? $4 for a whole fucking house. I'm legit depressed and fearful and i don't even live in the us. You guys need help

[–]nox_nox 134 points135 points  (44 children)

When my wife and I moved we specifically searched for homes without an HOA. Our prior home didn't have one either.

Got lucky and found an older neighborhood thats super quiet and mostly retirees.

Nobody is in anybody's shit either.

I can't imagine living under an HOA.

[–]TheTapeDeck 83 points84 points  (4 children)

Same. Funniest part was the first summer, we are on our porch, and a local busybody rides his bike over to introduce himself and to talk about a proposed HOA for our immediate area.

I asked him “why on gods green earth would I want to voluntarily accept an HOA??”

His answer was that he and many neighbors (doubt) want to control access to parking on the streets. These streets surround one of the best playground parks in the area and I guess he just doesn’t like seeing minivans.

No way in hell would we agree to starting an HOA where one does not exist.

[–]nox_nox 53 points54 points  (1 child)

He could literally petition the local government to add parking enforcement... no need for an HOA.

And unless it's a gated community they wouldn't be allowed to regulate city/town streets.

[–]TheTapeDeck 23 points24 points  (0 children)

He’s tied up in local government. I think all they’d be able to do is push for an idea like that… but with connections, I’ve seen more shocking nonsense happen than that. Still, they won’t get their HOA while we live here.

[–]TheFirstMotherOfGod 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The fact that someone can ask you this, you saying "no" but them still being able to get this is fucked up. I'm guessing that if enough of your neighbors said yes that this would be a thing? Pls let me know if not

[–]TheTapeDeck 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I don’t believe they’d be able to retroactively force us to join. They may or may not be able to make an organization with holes from non participants.

None of this is new construction.

[–]GoodAsUsual 55 points56 points  (4 children)

Yep, when we bought our house, we only considered homes with no HOA. Because fuck HOAs, and also fuck Nestlé.

[–]nox_nox 12 points13 points  (3 children)

You're making absolutely sure everyone knows your talking about THE Nestlé with that accent over the é. Lol

[–]TheFirstMotherOfGod 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Which other Nestlé is out there? We mean the asshole Nestlé who is stealing water and selling Nido formula to African mothers to fuck up their natural development right?

[–]nox_nox 4 points5 points  (1 child)

No just the one, just found it funny the other poster included the accent

[–]mesosalpynx 18 points19 points  (5 children)

We have an HOA, $150 a year. Capped at 1% increase per year. Has never increased. They maintain a sign and entry grass and stay out of people’s hair. . . As long as you don’t go all Peter griffin and throw car parts in the lawn.

[–]ascagnel____ 27 points28 points  (2 children)

HOAs are super inconsistent -- for every HOA that mostly stays out of its owners' way, there's one that makes its owners' lives miserable and is run by power-tripping petty tyrants.

[–]mesosalpynx 10 points11 points  (0 children)

We have a social committee that gets $2,700 a year and . . . . Makes that money disappear without anything other than a hot dog dinner for Halloween. No decorations. Nothing. Someone is pocketing it.

[–]moochacho1418 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From what I’ve seen and experienced thus far with my current HOA- it seems like older HOAs from neighborhoods that have been around for a couple decades are less militant than ones that are being created within newly developed areas because those nerds are trying to keep the property values up. Or something. Idk it’s all a scam anyway.

[–]nox_nox 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Um, car parts on lawn.. that's modern art thank you very much, and I'll even include some "wall text" for the art wanks ;)

[–]CTeam19 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I still can't figure out why they are a thing. Like my hometown of 10,000 as a town does all that an HOA does anyways: Street and maintained, curbside recycling, curbside garbage, Internet, water, power, near by parks are all city owned and ran with zero bullshit.

For $3.50 a month I get a 65 gallon container that twice a month the city will come and pick up aluminum, cardboard, magazines, newspapers, regular paper, phone books, plastic containers, and tin cans. For garbage it is weekly and $27.20 a month for a 65 gallon container or $18.00 for a 35 gallon container. For Gigabit speed Internet it is $99.95 a month. Roads get cleared of snow by 7am if the snow fall was from 8pm to 3am.

[–]TheFirstMotherOfGod 0 points1 point  (5 children)

You guys sound very lucky but also like the exception. How hasn't this been a real discussion until this segment? The HOA is literally a legal mob

[–]PancakeExprationDate 15 points16 points  (2 children)

In my state, it's required by law that all planned communities must have an HOA. My neighborhood has no amenities - - no pool, clubhouse, park, etc - - and we have no common space. Yet we have to pay HOA dues. Our HOA is managed from Vegas, and it's written in the legal charter that we cannot replace the company with our own elected members. It's fucking bullshit.

[–]shann1021 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s fucking bonkers.

[–]apaksl 25 points26 points  (8 children)

I get nobody wants to fuck around with this shit, but did any of these people actually try running for a position on their HOA? How hard is it to go door to door saying "hey, do you think it's okay for the HOA to fine people for structures in their back yards that are unable to bee seen from the street? Me neither, vote for me"

[–]jwiches 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Some HOAs have people on them that overrule any one else on the board. The added HOA development on my parents' street has a guy that is written in the charter that he will be the president for life and can hand off the title to his children if they want it (he originally owned the land, and opened it up develop/sell, but wants to keep that continuous revenue stream).

And there's the an HOA where I'm renting from where I got towed for the 3 minutes it took me to drop off my groceries by an aggressive tow company that I'm fairly certain gets a kickback from the HOA. I voiced my shock to the neighbors and it turns out they towed a board member's car right outside their garage too, but she was outvoted by everyone as well. Some of the older HOAs might be better in terms of keeping a fair board, but the new ones have ironclad grips on the contract before the house was even built.

[–]apaksl 2 points3 points  (3 children)

a guy that is written in the charter that he will be the president for life

I don't think that's a thing, got a source?

[–]Nanderson423 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Didn't you watch the episode? HOA's can literally make up their own rules. ANYTHING goes.

[–]jwiches 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My parents are in the older houses on that street that are not part of the HOA so I don't have a copy of it. But it's stuff they've heard from their new neighbors and it's not just one person saying it so we feel like there's some truth to it. And maybe I'm saying it a bit crassly, but the end result is that he can't be voted down and he has the majority vote on all decisions. It might be one of those things where the ruling stake is in a company in which he solely owns and the kids can continue running the company after him. Let's say if the whole neighborhood rallied together to switch to a new management than his company, contract says he own 51%, it will always overrule your neighborhood 49%. The law will side with him since that's what you signed when you bought a house there.

EDIT ADD: My main point to add is just saying that sometimes you can't always just be voted into the board and make HOAs bearable. The place I'm renting had a woman who really put her blood, sweat, and tears into getting on the board even before she was towed. Then when she wanted to enact real change (i.e., stopping the tow company from towing cars that are literally in front of their own garages for less than 10 minutes), she couldn't even get that passed.

[–]GlocalBridge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are both good and bad HOAs. It depends on who is on the board. At my recent HOA annual meeting, very few people showed up, though many seem to have voted by proxy. Bottom line if you have one, pay attention.

[–]ric2b 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I guess if you try that they might rush through a new rule where you lose your house if you "bother" your neighbors to campaign or something dumb like that, and somehow it will be legal.

[–]Thunderstarter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It depends on your state’s rules. For us, we couldn’t see the documents until our offer on our home was accepted, BUT if we didn’t like what we saw we had a 10 day period to back out of the home.

[–]Beingabummer 17 points18 points  (2 children)

For a country whose entire raison d'être is 'freedom' they sure as shit like to get in everyone else's business.

[–]thomascgalvin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There are a lot of people who define "freedom" as the "freedom to make sure everyone else is doing what I want."

[–]wedontlikespaces 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The US is a strange country. It's like they really want to live in an insane dictatorship but can't quite bring themselves to admit it.

HOAs with insane and abusive rules.
You have to pay not to die.
Anyone's allowed a gun just because they want it. Oh look there's been a school shooting, I wonder why that happened?
Flags everywhere, celebrating national pride despite the fact that the country is hugely divided on economic, ethnic and geographical grounds.
The cops are more of a threat than most criminals.
Highest incarceration rate of any democratic country in the world. See above.
Highest obesity rate of any country in the world.
Florida.
A massively overfunded military. Why? You don't need it. WW3 will be fought with nukes, what's a large standing army going to do.
Invented televangelists.
Has an entire city where the water isn't drinkable, and that's just accepted.

Not that other countries don't have problems but America just seems to revel in them. Anytime anybody tries to fix something a subset of the population start going on about something in the constitution and then it gets blocked, see NRA, and police union

[–]_Cybersteel_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a big country. As big as continental Europe and even China.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

PTSD for me.

I bought a home in an HOA. The house was a foreclosure and the front yard clearly had been neglected. Before our closing date, I called the HOA and asked what their timeframe was for new owners to fix up a property that was a foreclosure. They said they would give me one season. We bought at the end of August and did what we could before winter. By May they were sending me warning letters about the grass and weeds. I called again and they said the letters were automated and I was ok to keep working on the yard.

Every summer I would get letters for weeds. I lived there for 9 years and they would come 2-3 times a week, take pictures of weeds coming out of the ground and send me letters when I didn’t have them cleaned up. Every Saturday we would pull weeds.

And the thing that bothers me the most is their justification that HOA standards help maintain property values. No, bs. In 2008, that area was the hardest hit from foreclosures and is consistently one of the cheaper neighborhoods in Denver.

Edit: https://www.9news.com/article/news/community/green-valley-ranch-hoa-fine/73-7a15962f-13d9-449c-a199-3dcf277623c2

[–]IBJON 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Dude. It was super depressing for me. I'm in the process of buying my first house and the numbers he cited about the prevalence of HOAs bummed me out, then it kept going with some of the bullshit they get up to.

I've heard horror stories about HOAs, but that part about the HOA foreclosing someone's house for <4$ kinda fucked me up. It would be absolutely devastating to lose your house, but to have it sold out from under you for $3 and some change would probably put me over the edge.

[–]danielbgoo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think that is probably an extreme edge case and I'm almost certain that they got up to some seriously shady (if legal) shenanigans to get it that far.

But just the notion of never being able to live your life and use your property how you want to because some asshat can decide otherwise, is totally infuriating.

Other than earning equity, I don't really see how it's different from renting at that point.

[–]brb1006 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which is why Oliver created an alternative episode to Chuck E. Cheese for younger viewers

[–]Cincibi 152 points153 points  (24 children)

I used to live in Florida. It's hard to find any house not under an HOA. In my neighborhood they were going to foreclose a house on an old man because his grass wasn't green

Now, in Florida, during winter, often there is water restrictions so you can't water your lawn, but you have to keep your grass green.

Luckily a lot of us pooled together some money to have his grass painted (yes, if you don't know, they have grass painting service in Florida)

F HOAs! Never again will I live under one!

[–]duskywindows 61 points62 points  (0 children)

Someone telling me that they’re going to have the house that I own foreclosed on because my grass is not green enough during the dead of winter is someone that may soon find their house has burned down.

[–]Sea-Mango 44 points45 points  (12 children)

Painting the…. WHAT?!!!

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (9 children)

Painting yellow grass green with bio-degradable green paint is also a thing in CA.

[–]Dogbuysvan 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The roses must be red!

[–]ThatDerpingGuy 68 points69 points  (2 children)

Luckily a lot of us pooled together some money to have his grass painted (yes, if you don't know, they have grass painting service in Florida)

The sooner lawn culture can die, the better.

[–]bitnode 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Luckily a lot of us pooled together some money to have his grass painted

Or yunno, something that DUES are for on an HOA. Someone with a good HOA had their roof replaced (no added cost) since that is something the HOA contract. Doesn't seem like anyone can determine if the HOA is worth a crap or not unless you get info through word of mouth.

[–]colemon1991 4 points5 points  (5 children)

If the state has water restrictions, then the HOA can't enforce that rule. The state supersedes the HOA on that.

The rule of thumb is the most restrictive regulation in your area must be followed. So if the county requires your water well go 800 feet deep but the city or HOA requires 900 feet, you do the 900 feet. But if for some reason the state says you can't do something, the HOA can't demand you do it anyways. They are literally demanding he commit a crime to adhere to HOA bylaws.

I would fight that so hard.

[–]Cincibi 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I would think that's true for water consumption. But we still had to have our grass painted as "green grass doesn't require water" as they would remind us.

Also, grass in Florida isn't like normal grass, it's more of a vine, so it still flexes and doesn't just turn to dust like most grass when it's underwatered.

[–]BoogsterSU2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think that paint is safe for alligators though

[–]VeteranSergeant 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Given how badly some HOAs behave, it surprises me there isn't more violence in regards to these sorts of disputes. There seem to be at least three or four homicides (often multiple killed) related to HOA disputes every year, but honestly, the way some of these organizations act, you might expect there to be more. There were HOA-related killings in both Toronto and Florida back in December that left 7 people dead. A man in Florida burned down his condo in January after the HOA foreclosed on it, destroying it and severely damaging 4 neighboring units.

If the HOAs are allowed to be effectively lawless, it will only inspire more lawlessness in response. There need to be very strict limitations on the powers of HOAs and what they can charge for, as well as yearly audits of their books that are public.

[–]boissondevin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is the problem. It doesn't matter how many good or benign HOAs are out there when there is no legal framework to stop any of them from overstepping.

[–]Yarmoshyy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was thinking the same thing. What are your alternatives if an HOA forecloses on your home due to late/lawyer fees, for less than the cost of basically anything?

I don’t think I would handle it too well, nor legally, myself.

I’m fairly lucky, as I was able to read HOA bylaws before signing and didn’t see a single thing I with which I disagreed. I live in a rural neighborhood, not much in the bylaws besides don’t turn lawn into a junk yard type stuff. Although we are supposed to get approval before removing trees, but many of us have cut down trees without anyone saying anything. The intent is more about not wanting people to buy bigger lots just to turn into lumber farms.

That said, after watching this, I will certainly pay much closer attention to our semi annual meetings and any points up for vote/discussion. I’d rather help steer the ship before it hits the iceberg.

[–]kspjrthom4444 155 points156 points  (35 children)

As an American, we have HOAs because we are idiots. We love having the freedom to fuck ourselves over and heavily exercise that right all the time.

[–]iligal_odin 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Hoas hive you the freedom of having your house look like the rest of the big box store bought houses :D

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (19 children)

It's because idiots move into a nice home and let the property turn to shit. Overgrown vegetation, inoperable rusted out cars parked out front, cars in the driveway blocking the sidewalk, renting out a 3 bedroom home to a family of 15.

[–]doives 71 points72 points  (8 children)

I live in a non-HOA neighborhood, and while not every home is picture perfect, the neighborhood generally looks fine. If someone breaks the law (e.g. by leaving a broken down car on the sidewalk for weeks on end), there's plenty of recourse via the city. We don't need an additional government with a powerhungry bureaucracy.

When you're talking about overgrown vegetation, that's just a fact of life. Most people just want to live in a decent neighborhood, where they can do what they want on their property (because they own it, right?). Non-HOA homes are more expensive than ever, because they're hard to find, and like I said above, most people don't care about picture perfect.

You shouldn't be able to dictate to someone else how to maintain their property (unless they're breaking the law, due to a fire hazard, for example). It's just none of your business. Feel free to buy the other home if you want to have a say on how it should be maintained.

[–]DickButkisses 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Exactly. I love my neighborhood. The people are nice and mostly keep to themselves. Lawns are mostly manicured and nice, with a lot of folks taking time to put in flowers and seasonal accents. But nobody says shit if I forget to mow for an entire month because I have a newborn and a wife with postpartum on top of a stressful job. But an enterprising youth will definitely stop by and offer to do it for $50. I see no problem of lack of oversight or fines…

[–]Worthyness 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My Parents' HOA does this. They just send notes to people to say "if you need help let us know and we can find someone to help", which is nicer than "we'll fine the fuck out of you because your lawn isn't fucking green during a drought". That said, their HOA also basically just covers stuff that most people wouldn't be able to maintain on their own like private security or pot holes. Like i get the private security bit- they had a string of robberies in the neighborhood and people got scared, so the HOA proposed a private security contract and anyone who was interested just had to pitch in a certain amount every month. That's ideally how a HOA should operate. But people get a hardon for having power over others and just use it to legally bully people.

[–]DownWithHiob 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I live in a country with no HOA and people can do that, yet it doesn't happen, unless you live in a very, very bad neighbourhood already.

[–]chronic-munchies 4 points5 points  (0 children)

City bylaws cover all that shit where I live, no HOA needed.

[–]dalittle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I lived in a neighborhood with an HOA that still had that because of selective enforcement.

[–]737900ER 5 points6 points  (2 children)

It's also distrust of government. By privatizing essential services people become less reliant on government.

[–]hazdjwgk 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Imagine thinking private companies want to fuck you over less than the government, lmao.

[–]Chataboutgames 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A lot of people like HOAs. I get you don't, but the idea that they're broadly "fucking outselves" is just silly.

Homes are massive investments, it's natural that people might want to collectively preserve their value.

[–]infinitejetpack 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I live in an older HOA.

The association puts on a handful of community events each year and maintains the common areas and trails.

We have architectural rules, but the board cannot fine homeowners for violating them or make anyone fix anything. We have yearly dues (under $10/month to maintain common areas and trails), but the board has no authority to collect.

Even though compliance is essentially voluntary, the overwhelming majority of people in the neighborhood pay dues and follow the rules anyway.

At some point between then and now, HOAs lost focus on bringing the community together ... really sad to see.

[–]BIGREDDMACH1NE 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I want to watch but knowing it's about hoas I might have an aneurysm.

[–]shadowdra126Community 68 points69 points  (1 child)

As someone who was under 30 and bought their house in 2020 and got a great deal before the housing market shat the bed. I made sure to buy a house in a place without an HOA. And I am so glad I did

[–]ronald_raygunz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We were fortunate as well, my only hard no was HOAs. Found a nice enough home away from all that nonsense.

[–]NinjaTickleMaster 59 points60 points  (7 children)

I used to hate my HOA, but after getting on the architectural control committee and seeing how they operate from within it seems like they actually do have good intentions. The Karens in the neighborhood make the meetings so unpleasant that nobody wants to go, and you can’t get anything important done without a majority of owners at the meeting. And those Karens seem to harass the board members so much that they no longer have any desire to interact with the community. And now some states have even passed laws allowing you to sue board members individually which made a lot of them resign. Which is how I got on the ACC committee in the first place. Nobody wanted to get sued by some Karen who thinks we’re discriminating against her religious beliefs by rejecting her request to build a giant crucified Jesus statue in her front yard.

[–]azur08 27 points28 points  (0 children)

You hated them before you became them. Classic.

The lesson here is stop hating things you don’t understand well. Try to figure out why the thing is popular to begin with. In most cases, people who like different shit than you aren’t inherently stupid.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

The HOA now gets insurance to protect board members individually now in case they are sued.

[–]NinjaTickleMaster 5 points6 points  (1 child)

No idea why people are downvoting you. I think it depends on the state though because the lawyer who sent me training videos said to check with the HOA to make sure they protect individual members, so I guess not all of them do

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I should have said HOAs should have insurance to protect members. Guessing there are HOAs that don't know about it. My management company advised us to get it. No brainer of course.

[–]CumOnMyNazistache 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is correct, we do in CA.

[–]neverendingbreadstic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are people in local and state government like urban planners who dedicate their careers to ensuring smooth community input and interaction. This doesn't seem like a good use of private citizens' time and effort when they have no training or expertise.

[–]Thoth74 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would love to be able to buy these HOA foreclosure homes for fractions of pennies on the dollar and then sell them back to the people who were foreclosed upon for like a buck.

[–]AVBforPrez 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Holy shit this is my third comment on the thread, but the sheer joy John is getting from telling us about Charles Entertainment Cheese is making my week, fucking brilliant.

[–]Wagnaard 17 points18 points  (4 children)

I could see one benefit of an HOA is limited or eliminating subleasing. My home city has suffered from whole neighborhoods of absentee owners who sublet the sublets.

[–]nox_nox 15 points16 points  (0 children)

City/county/state regulations can mitigate that as well.

[–]Yoshable 11 points12 points  (3 children)

I for one loved the episode on Chuck E Cheese.

What's home ownership? As someone born past 1988 this is a foreign concept to me

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I was born in 88 and I build houses. I build houses for people younger than me all the time.

[–]deezy54 24 points25 points  (4 children)

I always swore that I’d never own a place that had an HOA. Well, we ended up getting a great deal on a condo at a country club, and there is one here. It isn’t as bad as I thought it would be. Our cable TV and high speed internet is paid for. Obviously all the landscaping is paid for as well as the pools and clubhouse. All the improvements at the country club are paid for. It isn’t as bad as I thought it would be.

[–]nascentia 40 points41 points  (1 child)

A lot of HOAs suck but I truly believe most of the anti-HOA vitriol is coming from people who've never even owned a home.

I've owned three homes. Two in an HOA, one not. One of the HOA homes was in a gated community. Both HOA communites were MUCH nicer than the non-HOA home. Fees were minimal ($175/yr. for the first, $55/mo. for the second.) In the first, you'd never even know you were in an HOA unless you did something pretty egregious to piss them off. The second was stricter as it was a gated community, but they were only strict on stuff like reasonable property upkeep (which isn't just aesthetics here in Florida...unkempt properties can become safety hazards during hurricane or fire seasons, not to mention the insect problems.) If you wanted a fence, a pool, a shed, paint your house, etc., you did have to submit the request letter, but they literally rubber stamped it all and approved it.

Current home isn't in an HOA and we wanted that for costs, but it does have downsides. Some homes within 1-3 blocks of us look like absolute shit and are clearly unsafe. We're in an unincorporated area so it's not as simple as "the city will take care of those rules" - the city has no jurisdiction here, it's all county, and the county rules are basically nil, so there's no recourse for enforcing stuff.

The reality is HOAs are a mixed bag like most things in life, but people on here like to act like they're pure evil.

[–]deezy54 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Where we live, the home owners own the actual country club and golf course, as well as their individual condo, so the HOA board is doing a yeomans job and not just sucking up our money. The board is made up of homeowners and there are multiple levels of accountability. As far as HOA’s go, this is probably best case scenario.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

And here I thought no one in HOA was allowed to comment about HOAs on this sub.

[–]mechapoitier 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah every time an HOA post comes up like 80% of the comments or questions are from people who, if they’d lived in an HOA, they wouldn’t be posting it, and they’re absolutely scathing opinions on something they have zero experience with outside of outrage porn.

Anybody who’s owned a home in a county with lax laws or enforcement knows HOAs exist for an important reason. But from Reddit you’d think they’re an evil scam tricking people nationwide.

[–]workingtoward 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Like most of America, people in HOAs want things done for them but they don’t want to participate in the process.

Having lived in a couple of HOAs, I was surprised at how desperate the Boards were for people willing to work for the good of their community. Over and over, I stepped in and got to watch people angrily demand things from the Board and then when asked to help do what they wanted, say ‘I haven’t got time for that!’

It’s really a metaphor for what American democracy has become.

[–]vid_icarus 35 points36 points  (8 children)

I always hated HOAs before I saw this but now I am legit terrified by them.

29% of Americans are living under the thumb of anonymous corporations for no other reason than legally buying and owning a home, which they could lose at anytime without their knowledge. And these companies are 100% incentivized to hit you with as many fees as possible to get your home for less than a coffee at Starbucks.

What a fucking nightmare.

[–]BoogsterSU2[S] 48 points49 points  (0 children)

If you hate your Homeowners Association right now, PLEASE repost this video to your Facebook page, and PLEASE repost this video to your Nextdoor neighbors, too! Make your Board watch Chris Parnell highlight the henious acts they always do!

[–]rasman99 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Unregulated with the power to foreclose? WTF???

[–]AVBforPrez 4 points5 points  (4 children)

I'm watching the Chuck E Cheese version of the episode and can't believe he did it, what a mad lad

[–]brb1006 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I been waiting years for Oliver to finally discuss Chuck E Cheese until now.

[–]AVBforPrez 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It's so much more insane than I ever would have thought, and you can see he's like like a child with glee as he continues through the ridiculous journey of Charles Entertainment Cheese.

He's right to, the Five Nights At Freddy's vibe was most of the appeal. Nobody wants a monster-free sterile Chuck E Cheese mouse with bland design, and their pizza is far from good.

[–]ItalianICE 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As a real estate agent in Florida...I am soooo happy John Oliver is doing a segment. My working theory was that the NJ mob migrated to FL and came up with HOAs. I've had to negotiate with some of the most blatant RIP off HOAs. Straight up lying about financials/owed HOA fees/figuring out how many HOAs are in a specific community.

[–]MurderDoneRightCommunity 15 points16 points  (14 children)

I wanna start a company that helps neighborhoods overthrow their HOAs and ultimately disband them. Think of it like the CIA and the HOAs as south and central america. They might be democratically elected, but it is not in our best interests that they remain. We may also use the power of the office to foreclose the houses of the previous board members if they make a stink out of it.

Once we have amassed enough power and a reputation they will be handing over the keys to us no questions asked.

[–]Chataboutgames 29 points30 points  (3 children)

Lol you don't need that. If a majority of people in a neighberhood want to change something with the HOA they just can.

[–]___Tom___ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Like in any club or parliament, never underestimate the silent majority and inertia. While on paper a majority should do it, governments are rarely overturned unless a large majority of people is very unhappy, and I'm fairly sure that's true for HOAs as well. Politics, clubs and school, HOA and other boards attract a certain type of individuals, because most people have more important things going on in their lives.

[–]Chataboutgames 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh that's absolutely true, that's why Karen tyrants can so often take control of HOAs. The idea that people need help overthrowing HOAs is just silly because as much as people like to post their anger stories, like 99.9999999% people living under a HOA just don't give a shit.

[–]RWYAEV 26 points27 points  (1 child)

If you get enough hoa neighbors to buy into such a company, you’ve probably got enough for them just to disband the HOA directly.

[–]ConstableGrey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

School of the Americas, but for combating HOAs.

[–]lingonn 2 points3 points  (1 child)

. We may also use the power of the office to foreclose the houses of the previous board members

So you basically just want to become a meta-HOA that kicks people out of their home as some form of revenge against..having to mow your lawn?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Then how do you maintain the common areas and collect funds?

[–]MurderDoneRightCommunity 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Anarchy is the goal.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It makes sense now. Thank you.

HOAs bad!

[–]yaboycharliec 11 points12 points  (9 children)

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Fuck geofencing.

[–]Recover_Practical 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I think that what is being missed by the folks that are in a “good” HOA is that things can change over time. I would love to live in an HOA run by people who thought like me, and I was guaranteed that that would remain the case forever. I have heard enough stories of new boards fucking shit up that I don’t want a part of it at all. I am not willing to give an entity I have little control of power over my life just so that they can have power over my neighbors as well.

Finally, it seems that a lot of examples that people use are covered by cities as well. One person said that they don’t want their neighbors grass to be a foot tall. In my city there is an ordinance for that, and they could/would be fined by the city.

[–]LuLouProper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All it takes is for one board member to die or move and the whole thing goes to hell.

[–]EarleYarik 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that that man should not have been allowed to have the bench in the common areas.

It's a common area, meaning it's property that he does not own. You are not allowed to do whatever you want with property you do not own. If the HOA allowed anyone to put anything they wanted in the common areas, then it would surely become a mess of whatever people wanted in a short amount of time. And then the people would complain about what is able to be put there and what can't be.

The solution: no one can keep any personal property on the common areas. The area is kept clean and orderly, and no one has anything more than anything else. This is not property that you own. It's property with the explicit purpose of being used by everyone else equally and to be managed by the property owner, HOA, whatever.

[–]honcoogeBuffy the Vampire Slayer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

imagine being the person driving around looking for infractions. Better keep your hose wound perfectly lol

[–]Stillprotesting62 10 points11 points  (38 children)

Just an FYI, we all knew or should have known before purchase. That being said, how about collectively finding solutions to problems. The ‘volunteer’ board members are there to uphold the state code laws,zoning, etc. I invested 7 years of research in our hoa and was able to facilitate much needed updating of our governing documents. This involved the whole community’s input, meetings, multiple ballots. So instead of bashing what is out of your control on a much higher level, work to make things better? It can be done. Peace

[–]Atario 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Solution to problems: make HOAs illegal and return to normal municipal governance

[–]honeybunch111 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The fact that HOAs can legally bypass even SCOTUS rulings on desegregation is some truly dystopian BS.

[–]___Tom___ 2 points3 points  (2 children)

HOAs are one of those things about the US that non-Americans simply don't understand.

Why? Just why?

[–]omnivorousboot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because in a lot of areas Americans have really lax local governments who don't enforce any laws. That creates a problem with Homeowners who need their homes to maintain value and create a safe and welcoming neighborhood. The reality is HOAs are a symptom of Americans anti-government stance.

[–]TrollBot007 3 points4 points  (3 children)

HOA’s are the most un-American shit ever. I genuinely think anyone in favor of them is a fucking idiot.

[–]Lint6 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Who is the white woman in that last part? I know her, I recognize her, but her name is completely escaping me at this point...

[–]atrevelan 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Nicole Sullivan, from MadTV?

[–]juju611x 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That’s who I thought it seemed like too, but I was like, is that really her? She looks a little different now if so, but it does sound just like her.

[–]YouDiedOfDysentery 3 points4 points  (0 children)

MadTV was the 90s. She got older

[–]Lint6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nicole Sullivan

Yes! Thanks

[–]circlehead28 1 point2 points  (59 children)

As someone who’s been watching John Oliver since the beginning, I’m a bit disappointed with his overall assessment of HOAs.

He not once mentioned the major benefit of HOAs, which is maintaining neighborhood/property value. There are so many Americans that throw their excess stuff in their yards or paint their houses gaudily colors. Condo HOAs allow for things like security cameras, renovations, etc.

While many HOAs are power hungry (I’ve definitely grown up in some), they a necessity. I just wish he would have spent some time talking about the benefits.

[–]TrollBot007 25 points26 points  (27 children)

Call me crazy but I think people should have the right to paint their own personal property whatever color they want. Fuck HOA’s and fuck the “my property values” pearl clutching.

[–]lingonn -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Yeah it's actually great when the biggest investment of your life becomes worthless because the neighbourhood turned into a detoriated junkyard.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Lately he seems to love one sided biased ouff pieces that serve as entertainment.

This video is akin to misinformation. Makes me never want to watch John Oliver again.

[–]enoughberniespamders 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Lately? The guy has been the bias king since he started this show

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think I am late in my realization. I knew he was kind of biased, but now I realize he is atrociously biased.

[–]boissondevin 2 points3 points  (16 children)

Properties with actual value aren't affected by the colors of nearby buildings.

HOAs were originally invented to control the color of the people in nearby buildings.

[–]circlehead28 0 points1 point  (15 children)

A home’s value is also determined by the the value of nearby homes. If a home is not selling because the seller painted it neon, then that can have a ripple effect on property values in the area.

Same with a hoarder. If a hoarder has their trash spewing into their yard, they probably will have a hard time selling their home at the max value. Selling it at the lower range will cause nearby homes to be pulled down in value.

[–]CtrlZonmylife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree. Where I live half the homes are owned by out of state/country investors. Great for them but they and their renters have zero care or pride about the neighborhood. The HOA keeps a balance.

[–]ric2b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He not once mentioned the major benefit of HOAs, which is maintaining neighborhood/property value.

Because AFAIK there is no evidence that it is true, but it sounds nice.

[–]AureliasTenant 2 points3 points  (4 children)

HOA is not a prerequisite for security cameras is it?

[–]circlehead28 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Not if it’s within your own private space. But a common space (entry ways) requires a community consensus. A friend lives in an old condo complex that recently installed security cameras and an electronic entry system using HOA funds. It’s provided an extra layer of security to the units and most likely has bumped up their values because of it.

[–]2u3e9v 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But but but I just read a Zillow sponsored article suggesting that people love their HOAs!

[–]Terbear318 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Before I left I walked my Dogs in the evening and threw their shit into our presidents yard.

[–]lingonn 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Knowingly moving into a HOA and then harassing the neighbours over it. Lmao.