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[–]TechyDad 2599 points2600 points  (164 children)

I think this is the moment that angered me the most. They had recommendations to address this in 1919. And then the same recommendations in 1935, 1943, and 1965. And yet, here we are in 2020 with the same exact issues (if not even worse).

We've had so many chances to fix this and have given the same fixes each time. Each time, those in power either didn't do anything, made token changes to placate the masses, or just made things worse. We honestly shouldn't have to face this in 2020. This is an issue that kids should read about in history books as having been solved decades ago. But since this wasn't fixed back then, we need to make sure that we're not placated by meaningless token reforms this time so that kids 20 years from now can read about police brutality in history books instead of experiencing it first hand.

[–]findallthebears 1126 points1127 points  (85 children)

Unfortunately, a lot of us haven't read it in history books.

I found out about Tulsa from the show Watchmen. A fucking TV show.

You can't bottle that kind of shame

[–]nerdypeachbabe 519 points520 points  (42 children)

I just found out about it from this show. I also just learned that the Black Panther Party weren't terrorists after my school taught me that they were. This shit is so fucked, dudes. We have to be better :(

[–]kittygunsgomew 200 points201 points  (19 children)

Yeah, I thought the same thing. In my mind they were a violent “kill all the whites” type that aggressively patrolled neighborhoods. That was my understanding due to school and media. After learning more about history as I got older I started to learn the truth. My hope for the future is that BLM, antifa and these protests come out on the other side of history in glory, that there is no grey in their definitions and intentions. The idea that it could even become something other than that scares the fuck outta me.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (5 children)

I thought that too. And I remember a white US History teacher FREAKING OUT about Malcolm X. I can't remember why but his reaction was SO strong.

[–]FMJ1985 77 points78 points  (4 children)

Time to look for the stud that put that in the show and have him promoted! Yeah is cool ruining racist’s careers and all, but how about we promote and encourage people that are already fighting the fight (as small and subtle as this is). I haven’t seen Watchmen and now I will watch it

[–][deleted] 374 points375 points  (32 children)

101 years simply isn't enough time to change anything! /s

[–]TagMeAJerk 145 points146 points  (10 children)

"we need more time to research the impact"

[–]pajamMr. Robot 73 points74 points  (5 children)

"It's unreasonable to expect change overnight!!"

[–]LucretiusCarusHannibal 29 points30 points  (2 children)

"Now it's not the time to make it a political issue"

[–]el_grort 143 points144 points  (9 children)

A hundred years of kicking the can down the road and murmuring 'a few bad apples'.

And this is why you institute policy changes. Becomes you can only keep things penned up for so long, refuse to release the pressure, before things explode. This is what led to rioters throwing petrol bombs at police in Brixton, the UK, in the 80s and we got long, long, long overdue police reform, which while not perfect it is better. I can only say, the politicians at the heads of cities, states, and the country as a whole should be fucking thankful the protesters and the angered masses haven't gone and actually declared war on the police like they did in the UK of the 80s. If they continue to ignore the need to completely rejig the system and the fault of the police in the current moment, all I can say is I see a Brixton in Americas future.

[–]LivingThin 106 points107 points  (1 child)

This. We’ve had chances to fix this, and we just didn’t. We need to remain diligent so that we fix it this time. We can’t pass this on. It needs to stop now.

[–]Zellough 1612 points1613 points  (43 children)

Jesus the call into the LA Police Comission was perfect

Fuck those guys, what a great call

"YOU'RE A DISGRACE, SUCK MY DICK AND CHOKE ON IT. I YIELD MY TIME, FUCK YOU!"

[–]Atomicsciencegal 566 points567 points  (3 children)

I will be ending all my future Zoom meetings with ‘I yield my time, FUCK YOU.’

[–][deleted] 672 points673 points  (2 children)

Black Lives Matter. Defund the Police. I find it disgusting that the LAPD is slaughtering peaceful protesters on the street. I had two friends go to the protest in Beverly Hills a couple of days ago and the protest was peaceful. The police then showed up with their excessive and violent force, shooting rubber bullets and throwing tear gas! IS THIS WHAT YOU CALL PROTECTING AND SERVING? CAUSE I THINK ITS BULLSHIT! Fuck you Michael Moore! I refuse to call you an officer or a chief cause you don't deserve those titles! You are a disgrace! SUCK MY DICK AND CHOKE ON IT! I yield my time! FUCK YOU!

[–]JJDude 143 points144 points  (1 child)

That was beautiful, but yet all those mayors still support all these dick sucking police chiefs who see nothing wrong with brutality.

[–]parkwayy 93 points94 points  (4 children)

There were a few of these gold nuggets on that Zoom call, people were pissed lol.

[–]fevildox 76 points77 points  (7 children)

Here is another call to the LA Police Commission. He fucking killed them dude!

https://twitter.com/chescaleigh/status/1267927258355961856?s=09

[–]PUSClFER 27 points28 points  (3 children)

How about this one?

https://twitter.com/choi_clint/status/1267950383227375616

EDIT: I'm referring to the one in the reply, with the 1:00 timer, for clarity.

[–]Zellough 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I love every single second of this

It's been a long time coming, honestly, not just in America

I hope it follows suit everywhere

Where I live I'm more afraid of a cop or a transit pulling me over than getting mugged on the street

[–]punkfusion 185 points186 points  (6 children)

The entire call is one chef's kiss beauty. There are several other moments to look at. One being "Have you tried being good at your jobs?"

[–]yerLerb 1132 points1133 points  (32 children)

"If you're asking why a spontaneous, decentralised protest can't control every one of its participants, more than you are asking the same about a tax payer-funded, heavily regimented, paid workforce... fuck you."

[–]TheDorkNite1 149 points150 points  (1 child)

That's just a great line in general.

[–]bencelot 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Yup. The standard needs to be much much higher for actual cops.

[–]Trump_is_Great23 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Great quote to use on a daily basis. Explains the issue with a lot of people's thinking so succinctly.

[–]3_Slice 20 points21 points  (1 child)

That was such a solid rebuttal too

[–]Soddington 3488 points3489 points  (135 children)

Bob Kroll is a racist piece of shit and should not be representing a MLM company let alone a police force.

Hopeful that Minneapolis policing will change? Meet the police union's chief ...

[–]18squeeler 1078 points1079 points  (104 children)

[–]SupetMonkeyRobot 572 points573 points  (42 children)

Friendly reminder that dismantling the city police does not mean abolishing law enforcement for the area. The city police would be replaced by county police where new policies and procedures could be created and implemented. It would also dissolve the city's police union and require the counties to unionize if the cops still wanted a union.

Edit: forgot a not in there.

[–]mrducky78 215 points216 points  (8 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arzTB4ji_Ig

Starting from scratch can better allow for reforms to take place and for fresh training to better change the culture of a fresh force.

[–][deleted] 55 points56 points  (4 children)

It will take time to rebuild. I am afraid they will keep the same sacks of shit or the same sacks of shit will weasel their way into the replacement because they will want to get it going quickly.

The only hope of success that it has, is that justice isnt muted, police arent afraid to call out bad police and arrest them, and there is no union that can cause corruption through threatening to not do their job.

I do not want them to carry weapons, carry pepper spray, or carry tasers. They have abused them, and they should learn to do their job without them.

[–]AcerRubrum 205 points206 points  (1 child)

It should be noted that New Jersey did this to the Camden police department some years ago by absorbing it into the county police and it's worked wonderfully so far. Camden County police are enacting progressive community-oriented policies and use of force complaints have dropped by 95%

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-04/how-camden-new-jersey-reformed-its-police-department

[–]TheyCallMeMrMaybe 11 points12 points  (1 child)

He uses Camden, New Jersey as an example given the fact the city had 2 things going for it.

  1. Being one of the most corrupt P.D.'s in the country
  2. Being the murder capital of the United States

Dismantling their police department and forcing police to effectively start over was effective (the city is still riddled with its own problems, but at least it's not on the bottom of the barrel thanks to corrupt police). While yes, it did work for Camden's case, it's not the end-all solution to a major problem. Especially if this son of a bitch is still somehow chief of police or if the problems aren't weeded out in the end.

[–]Thousand_Eyes 225 points226 points  (9 children)

the fact that he thinks trans people don't deserve 15k when the police get millions is fucking telling

[–]Soddington 86 points87 points  (3 children)

Yeah he'll never say in public what he really thinks about trans folk. He'll save that for when hes drinking with KKK buddies in the City Heat Motorcycle club.

[–]flying-sheep 119 points120 points  (11 children)

As this is a systemic issue, the police is chock full with Bob Krolls.

Firing that assbag alone won’t change a thing.

[–]Scorpion1024 334 points335 points  (11 children)

As an NJ resident, I want to correct something: Camden did not get rid of it’s police force. The city force was dissolved and replaced by a municipal force, in effect the city cops got put under county administration. This was done as a cost cutting measure by the former governor, as he deemed the city force too expensive to run for the results they were producing, and the union just refused to budge on anything.

There was a short spike in crime following the dissolution as the municipal force got established, growing pains if you will. This has since been followed by a significant drop in crime, due in no small part to the municipal force having more manpower than the city force did. But also probably owed to the municipal force engaging in outreach programs aimed at building trust between officers and residents. Trust being a key word, and a major component in the protests against the police taking place now.

[–]042lej 51 points52 points  (9 children)

Wasn't there also corruption issues in Camden?

[–]Scorpion1024 85 points86 points  (7 children)

Yes. The police union had been accused of a lot and was refusing to budge, so it was decided the simplest option was to dissolve the city force and replace it with a non-union one.

[–]JeffLowe42 4718 points4719 points  (565 children)

Here's the whole interview that powerful clip at the end was from

Edit: Thanks but instead of gold, donate to a good cause like bail funds for protestors .

[–][deleted] 1836 points1837 points  (222 children)

I already knew about most of stuff this episode covered but damn, this part felt like she punched my soul

[–]MedalofHodor 1842 points1843 points  (129 children)

Her point about Tulsa really touched me. Do you know what's fucked? I'm a college educated American, I've taken multiple US history courses at a college level, and went through one of the top 50 high schools in the nation, and I never learned about Tulsa until watchman on HBO. I was shocked when I looked it up and leaned it was real, the fact that a fucking tv show had to teach me about one of the largest instances of racial violence this country has ever seen, while 15 years of schooling never even touched on it is absurd. To me that speaks volumes on the nature of systemic oppression in this country.

[–][deleted] 573 points574 points  (37 children)

and what's even more awful, it's not the only event the US were trying to bury.

watch someone incorporates Philadelphia MOVE bombing in their movie or show and people will be surprised again even though it happened only 35 years ago.

[–]SoutheasternComfort 104 points105 points  (3 children)

"From a Pennsylvania State Police helicopter, Philadelphia Police Department Lt. Frank Powell proceeded to drop two one-pound bombs (which the police referred to as "entry devices"[32]) made of FBI-supplied Tovex, a dynamite substitute, targeting a fortified, bunker-like cubicle on the roof of the house.[30]

The resulting explosions ignited a fire from fuel for a gasoline-powered generator stored in the rooftop bunker.[12] The fire spread and eventually destroyed approximately sixty-five nearby houses. Although firefighters had earlier drenched the building prior to the bombing, after the fire broke out, officials said they feared that MOVE would shoot at the firefighters, so held them back.[30][33][34]

Goode later testified at a 1996 trial that he had ordered the fire to be put out after the bunker had burned. Sambor said he received the order, but the fire commissioner testified that he did not receive the order.[35] Eleven people (John Africa, five other adults, and five children aged 7 to 13) died in the resulting fire. Ramona Africa, one of the two MOVE survivors from the house, said that police fired at those trying to escape."

Goddamn. I remember seeing that title in a Leftover Crack song, but damn. I never knew all that. Fucking cops bombing neighborhoods in the 1980s! And they try to blame others for making people hate cops-- but they are the only ones that radicalized people against the cops. What do you expect when you kill children????

[–]drbhrb 198 points199 points  (3 children)

I live in Philly and most people that weren't alive then have no idea it happened

[–]Lyad 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The reason I learned about MOVE a couple years ago is because I worked in philly at a particularly woke church called Broad Street Ministry.

It absolutely blew my mind that that could (and did) happen.

[–]PricklyAvocado 26 points27 points  (3 children)

I only know about Operation MOVE because of a Leftover Crack song I heard 14 years ago. It's pretty rare even now to hear people talking about it

[–]Arandmoor 42 points43 points  (4 children)

She mentioned Rosewood as well. Bet you never heard of that one either.

Yet another reason to not live in Florida...

[–]1003mistakes 283 points284 points  (15 children)

It’s also a great example of why the concept of “keep politics out of ____” is just dumb. Art and personal expression are often the only way that these things are conveyed.

[–]Spoopy43 106 points107 points  (10 children)

"but then how will I completely ignore the issues and allow them to continue" - dickhead conservatives on reddit

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (3 children)

It's amazing how few people know about this, I had heard of the Tulsa race riots in passing, but wasn't really aware of what went down until a Stuff You Should Know episode covered it. I highly recommend anyone take a listen or read up on the topic.

[–]Cynaren 79 points80 points  (3 children)

As someone who isn't American and is across the world from this, that speech made it clear of what the level of tension is right now there.

And the full speech just makes it even clear. As a kid, I was never really pushed into religion or race or any of the social chains and never knew race was still a problem in 2020. I've read about in history books, but never actually thought of it as a modern problem.

Thousands of people on the streets have proved me wrong.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (1 child)

i'm not American as well but i'm trying to learn more about it simply bc i believe that it's an important issue which shouldn't be ignored.

and also even if we talk only about the current wave of protests, the protests in the UK, Brazil, France and Canada already turned from solidarity protests to people questioning their police systems.

[–]Uncanny_Realization 564 points565 points  (80 children)

Me too. At the end I fucking had to take a walk and wipe some tears away.

[–]AndringRasew 719 points720 points  (63 children)

She said it with such ferocity and conviction. The emotion was raw and her sense of helplessness and anger was communicated so well that most couldn't help but empathise. That level of discord can make it hard to speak coherently, let alone maintain composure as well as she did. I hope this woman gets recognition that her raw and powerful display deserves. I'd probably vote for her if she ran for public office.

[–]mygamethreadaccount 409 points410 points  (10 children)

Trevor has already told her she’s welcome on the show. That speech is getting her tremendous recognition, and she deserves it.

[–]Sciensophocles 256 points257 points  (45 children)

Not to mention articulate and with historical examples. She knew the history, she knew her position, she knew their position, and she delivered her argument with force. I can't see how anybody, with any knowledge of what she talked about, could refute her. That was a powerful statement.

[–]AndringRasew 142 points143 points  (34 children)

Jesus Christ, I did not know about the events that took place in Rosewood or Tulsa. My god that read was mortifying. It took 65 years for the government to even recognize they happened at all. I am incensed that things like that even took place and saddened that something like that could have ever occured in the United States.

[–][deleted] 112 points113 points  (13 children)

Everything I read this comment about the Tulsa race massacre I post info about it and further reading and full documentaries and no one gives a shit. My post of the full free documentary on r/television got zero fucking attention but I'm going to post it again and again because somewhere in the void I'm screaming into is a young angry white boy that will learn empathy from it just like me. https://reddit.app.link/2ojKYHqE96

[–]SoutheasternComfort 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Dude keep doing what you're doing. Honestly every so often I will click a link like this and it will just totally affect my thinking. Like earlier today someone mentioned Harriet Tubman's life and linked to her wiki page, so I clicked it and read. And read and read. Dude she was a total badass. She was a general in the civil war, she led a whole army and everything. She also never lost a passenger on her 'underground railroad'. To the point that she believed she was being led by god. I know a lot of people here don't believe-- but as someone who does, I can't help but agree with her. She was really a larger than life character no matter what way you cut it

Anyways my point is I got so interested I never even replied to that post. S/he has no idea, but that obscure post totally changed the course of my thinking. The same is likely true for you, even if they didn't reply. That's the problem with karma-- it only tracks the most menial kinds of engagement.

[–]tittymilkmlm 83 points84 points  (1 child)

Happened in the 80s in philly too. Look up the MOVE bombings. America is a violently racist place

[–]Toolazytolink 29 points30 points  (1 child)

the HBO Watchmen brought it up and then I heard it in podcasts after that. A really horrifying event that cannot be swept under the rug. An event that should be brought up in history class as a warning of what racism can peak to.

[–]Courtnall14 114 points115 points  (5 children)

I just sat there for a few minutes after it was over. That was rough...

[–]Head_Knockuli 327 points328 points  (16 children)

If you're looking for more, here's Trevor Noah's comments, referenced in the above by Kimberly Jones.

Here's Hasan Minhaj, delivering citations and truth.

Plenty more out there but these three are repeating in my head.

[–]TheDerped 75 points76 points  (3 children)

Props to Hasan and the people who make Patriot Act for making the episodes available globally instead of region locking them to just the states

[–]Savv3 75 points76 points  (0 children)

Hasan Minhaj also did an episode about the broken police system last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km4uCOAzrbM

[–]FSafari 277 points278 points  (33 children)

She pretty much perfectly encapsulates my emotions about this. Even though there has definitely been a tipping point on the issue of systemic racism and much more public support on the policing specifically, it is very hard for me to feel very hopeful or positive about this country. A giant part of the frustration and rage that I have is that, for generations, we've been saying the same thing about systemic racism and there has been video after video of in policing for years. I just can't get over the anger that I have been told isn't justified, and it's making it hard to appreciate all support that the (mostly white) public has extended now on the issue. I don't know how I can flip a switch like the rest of the country seems to have done from not caring or somehow being ignorant to marching alongside and publically supporting BLM.

[–]henbanehoney 109 points110 points  (23 children)

I'm white but I've been a part of activists movements for a long time, including anti-policing work etc... when you work and struggle for years and then mainstream corporations and politicians jump on board for votes and money it sucks! And its okay to feel nervous trusting people's intentions. But you can privately know you did this and changed them, and maybe they are trying to co opt the narrative now. But if your beliefs and work have convinced them to even try and do that... I guess I'm trying to view it as positive, that our views are now coveted after so much bullshit. Just keep it up and ask for accountability.

[–][deleted] 168 points169 points  (1 child)

The few minutes that John Oliver showed was pretty great to begin with. The whole video is BEYOND AMAZING! She broke down 400+ years of oppression for the black community in less than 7 minutes so that even an idiot could understand. That Monopoly analogy was genius.

[–]Jack_Spears 94 points95 points  (2 children)

Holy Shit that Woman is one hell of an Orator.

[–]cisned 224 points225 points  (8 children)

I was holding strong until that clip at the end. That made it me break down and cry.

She’s right, John Oliver is right, and we as a society have been wrong for far too long.

It’s painfully clear that our inaction, our inability to listen and understand to our fellow citizens has led us into centuries of racism and oppression.

We pride ourselves with our ability to use force, so we can feel strong and safe, but we are cowards. We succumb to our fear, and let hate spread like a virus.

Any racist and unjust system in its nature undermines our constitutional creed of all men are created equal.

We can’t let fear and hate divide us anymore. We must unite against racism, and let our love and understanding be the cure towards the racist virus.

If we failed to do so, such racist and unjust system will only undermine our society, until one day it will lead to our own self-destruction from built up resentment and anger.

No Justice, No Peace!

In Unity There’s Strength!

[–]junkiejarrett 5744 points5745 points  (542 children)

You can just hear the anger in his voice. Ever since John Stewart left The Daily Show, I always thought that the John Oliver show was a good replacement. Both funny, smart, but also extremely passionate about the wrong doings of the world.

[–]Tiratirado 680 points681 points  (25 children)

Yeah, I really like the Angry Parrot Show

[–]corranhorn57 415 points416 points  (15 children)

Point of order, Zazu was a red-billed hornbill, not a parrot.

[–][deleted] 125 points126 points  (7 children)

I think this is a reference to a joke in a really old episode of last week tonight that John made about himself, before the lion King remake was even greenlit.

Edit: forgot a word

[–]Djinnwrath 86 points87 points  (6 children)

It is. He's been comparing himself to a bird for a long time. I'm sure playing Zazu was... very epic for him.

[–]feelitrealgood 417 points418 points  (124 children)

The Daily Show was a bit more palatable to a neutral audience sadly. I personally love Oliver’s stuff.

[–]OliverQueen85 345 points346 points  (34 children)

I personally think it's the format. Oliver does the 20-minute deep dive into a topic, while The Daily Show was shorter bits of different topics. That makes a huge difference to a neutral audience.

I personally love the deep dives on one topic (most of the time). You don't really see that elsewhere in television.

[–]GoddamnKeyserSoze 61 points62 points  (20 children)

What's your take on Patriot Act on Netflix? I've seen little myself, but Hasan Minhaj does something similiar.

[–]MrMallow 50 points51 points  (3 children)

Same idea, he does a great job but his content isn't frequent enough

[–]NotaChonberg 32 points33 points  (6 children)

Started off as basically a Last Week Tonight knock off but has gotten better as it goes along. I'd say worth the watch if you enjoy these kinds of shows

[–]bakedpotatopiguy 155 points156 points  (51 children)

I think that that’s why Trevor Noah was picked. To expand the reach of the institution Jon Stewart created. I like that we can satisfy our thirst for the deep dives that Stewart invented without sacrificing the reach of the Daily Show.

[–]JudgeHoltman 142 points143 points  (12 children)

It took some time for Trevor to find his stride, but he's making the show his own.

I appreciate South African point of view, where he was raised in a fundamentally different racist culture, and sees America struggling with some things he's already seen.

He spends his time off touring random parts of the world and performing stand-up, which is even more interesting, because that tells me he is actively sampling and getting to know the different cultures everywhere he goes.

[–]paulmcpizza 49 points50 points  (4 children)

If you like hearing his point of view I highly recommend reading his book, Born a Crime. Genuinely very eye opening to me, we barely brushed over apartheid in school and his book lead me to do more research.

[–]Gearfried 215 points216 points  (36 children)

Check out Some More News on YouTube.

Cody may not have a wide viewership but he certainly deserves one.

[–]vqrs 105 points106 points  (26 children)

I never watched the Daily Show before Trevor Noah took over from John Stewart, so I can't really compare but I do enjoy his show. He comes across as a very reasonable and insightful person.

He also made a video recently about this, more of a personal take and his own thoughts (this is the clip the woman references at the end):

https://youtu.be/v4amCfVbA_c

It's not really necessary, but for context: Trevor grew up in South America* during the end of Apartheid.

* edit: facepalm... I'm gonna leave it, may it brighten your day in these dark times ^

[–][deleted] 133 points134 points  (10 children)

Also, a bit more context: Trevor's mom was classified as Black, his dad was classified as White and Trevor was classified as Coloured. His parent's marriage was illegal when he was born and his mom was jailed for being in a marriage with a White man

[–]Porrick 78 points79 points  (6 children)

Also when he fucked off back to Switzerland and she remarried, her next husband shot her in the face.

[–]TrustInHumanity 59 points60 points  (2 children)

Might be good to add that she survived.

[–]fkoffanon 11 points12 points  (1 child)

That's incredibly good to add, thank you. Can't believe he just ended it there like that.

[–]VF5 155 points156 points  (21 children)

Watch hasan minhaj last week online rant on the blm protest. His clapback to his own community and the police was just legendary.

Edit: https://youtu.be/i_FE78X-qdY

[–]Pulsar1977 2709 points2710 points  (446 children)

"Joe Biden seems like the hit in the leg instead of hit in the heart candidate"

Ouch

[–]mikeyfreshh 980 points981 points  (162 children)

He's not wrong

[–]Binky216 663 points664 points  (141 children)

That’s EXACTLY how I feel about Joe Biden.

[–]Askol 205 points206 points  (129 children)

Seriously - like if you give me the choice, obviously i'd rather get shot in the leg, but can't say I'd be overly excited about it.

[–]hazasauras 230 points231 points  (38 children)

If McDonald's served someone a bad burger, they would apologize and then replace it.

[–]skelo 65 points66 points  (2 children)

And if that burger killed the customer, they would get sued. And the person who failed the quality check would get fired. And people would be able to go to Burger King. And employees that got a lot of complaints from letting really bad burgers through would get fired. And they wouldn't be able to get hired by another McDonald's. And the list goes on...

[–]yxing 38 points39 points  (16 children)

Yeah it's no good very bad sign when megacorporations have far more accountability than local police departments.

[–]corranhorn57 1278 points1279 points  (100 children)

Arguing about the social contract a government has with its people is the cornerstone of our nation. People seem to believe that the system as it stands now is the way it is and the way it shall always be. Of course the framers never intended that. Just take a look the preamble:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Our goal is to always strive to form a more perfect Union. And that requires radical changes at this time, so if a Target burning is what it takes to wake people up to the situation our country is in, then so be it.

[–]GACGCCGTGATCGAC 309 points310 points  (5 children)

That is exactly why I always laugh at vapid arguments like "if you don't like it [...as it is...], then get out!" or a similar variation, implying we've reached a point at which our country is a utopia which ought to remain in a static state.

The mission of this country, as you point out, is to change into a better place for all of it's people. From that vantage point, that type of argument can be flipped in support of changing the country and updating the status quo; "the mission of this country defined by the constitution is to create a better union. if you don't like [... the literal goal of the constitution ...], then get out!"

[–]Schlamus 1205 points1206 points  (159 children)

That last part was chilling.

[–]dk240996 986 points987 points  (11 children)

After John's sign-off, during the "live" broadcast, the credits rolled in complete silence, on a completely black background, which I wish they kept for this online clip, as it really makes that last part stay with you emotionally.

Or at least it did with me

[–]b1tbuck37 141 points142 points  (0 children)

Myself as well. I certainly wasn't ready for the emotional punch that delivered.

[–]Anti-Iridium 56 points57 points  (0 children)

I just watched the full episode on hbo go, and I didnt expect how tired of this shit he was. The strain in his voice straight to black put me in tears.

[–]PWNtimeJamboree 93 points94 points  (5 children)

yeah i watched this episode in my office. i had to shut the door because i had tears running down my face while i let what she said sink in.

i have gone through tremendous personal growth over the last 4 years. i was raised conservative, my parents weren't necessarily, explicitly racist, but had the typical fear of "rough neighborhoods" that your average middle-class white people in the South have. For years i was under the impression that liberals and Democrats were trying to dominate and control Americans, that being against military retribution somehow made you "less patriotic," and that the flag and the military are to be respected at all times.

So when Trump came along in 2015-2016, i was all-in. I thought it was awesome that someone who "didnt care about what people thought about him" was running for president. I loved the Drain The Swamp narrative. I even posted in the_Donald some. But even before he was inaugurated, it became clear that he was already backing out of campaign promises. He was filling his cabinet with people that were unqualified, or worse, people who were easily bought.

then the antics only picked up. when he was running, so many Conservatives who were rubbed the wrong way by his tweets and comments were assured that it was only a charade to get himself in, and then it would calm down. it only increased. over the next year, watching this institution that i was told to respect, no matter what, turn into a global laughing stock started getting me to question my actual fundamental beliefs. I have adopted an approach of putting myself into people's shoes, and thinking about "what if it was me? my wife? my kids? how would i react? how would i vote if this issue directly impacted my family?"

This year in particular has really opened my eyes about what the priorities of the Republican party are, between COVID and the economy, and now this. During this, we have a President actively emulating the worst war criminal in history with his rhetoric, and the GOP and conservatives are completely ok with it.

My father literally said to me the other day that he would be voting for Trump again because the economy will be better. I asked how many people in Germany wished they wouldve listened to the rest of Hitler's ideologies instead of voting for just the parts where he promised the most prosperous version of Germany in history.

and that brings me back to this woman in the video. that absolutely broke my heart. I've tried (at least i thought i was trying) for the last few years, to really tried to put myself in the shoes of folks affected by police brutality, but this is what finally broke me. ive been angry for the last 2 weeks, but now im just sitting here, trying to not cry again as i try to finish this comment, wondering how we got here. how have we let this go on for so long? i was taught the Civil Rights Movement was the end of it, but here we sit in 2020 with the only change being that Jim Crow laws and segregation laws don't "officially" exist anymore. Im sitting here broken hearted over the clear and obvious fact that the America i was raised to believe in, not only doesnt exist, but never did.

I would ask for patience with white people who still don't get it, but i don't understand how anyone with eyes and compassion could get to where we are now, the absolute climax of racial protesting in this country, and not see it. at this point, if you can't listen to these people, and hear their stories, and hear their anger, and hear their pleas, then you are making a conscious choice to ignore it. You will be on the wrong side of history if you don't make a conscious effort to be compassionate and open your heart to a group of people who have suffered for 400 years.

[–]WolfeXXVII 832 points833 points  (28 children)

To tag onto this JO is typically not this emotional. Another thing I watch is called legal eagle. The guy who hosts it has ALWAYS stayed Kurt professional and informative. Until that is this video. https://youtu.be/z56j06plUgs I highly recommend you give it a watch. It has a very similar vein of incredulity and anger.

Edit: I was recommended "opening arguments" podcast and I will add this in too. Even though it isn't along the same vein as my original recommendation.

[–]HarbingerGunner 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Dude. I was tearing up for this guy.

He is always professional. Maybe firm at time when the mood requires it, but he is always professional with some light humor.

Seeing him holding back tears was emotional

[–]chanandlerbong420 90 points91 points  (3 children)

incredulity is the best word

[–]Apaulling8 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Tagging into his message at the end: Here is a simple spreadsheet for candidates running in Congressional battleground elections this year. I encourage anyone feeling that donating to the ACLU isn't enough to quell their frustration to reach out to candidates near you to see how you can help.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Hah! I was just going to post this video. It might be my favorite take on the whole thing. I also really appreciated his comment on the 2 A crowd.

[–]jeajello 203 points204 points  (17 children)

Insane how John addressed the police being militarized 6 FUCKING YEARS AGO and absolutely nothing has changed.

[–][deleted] 755 points756 points  (14 children)

Dude is amped up.

Good on him.

[–]BoogsterSU2 624 points625 points  (15 children)

Say it with me: Grossman is a terrorist.

[–]PrecedentialAssassin 190 points191 points  (63 children)

I used to be a golf pro at a private golf club. We had a guy who was a sheriff's deputy who lived in the community and every now and then, I'd let him come out with his son and hit balls and even play on one of the courses if it wasn't too busy. One day he asks if I want to go on a ride along one night. I say sure.

So the night comes up and I meet him at the station and he gives me the tour and goes over procedures and off we go. I live in one of the biggest cities in the country and he says we're going to patrol one of the interstates looking for anyone who might be trafficking narcotics. I'll preface this by saying that I'm an upper middle class, middle aged, white dude who lives in an upper middle class suburban community, but I'm also pretty liberal. The deputy wasn't aware of this last part.

As we're driving up and down the interstate, he explains the things he's looking for. Pro tip, if you're driving and a cop pulls along side of you and you don't want him to be suspicious, make eye contact with him and give a nod or something. He noted that anyone who doesn't acknowledge is nervous about something. He knows that you know he pulled along side of you and is maintaining driving along side of you. Back to the story. One thing they're looking for, trailers. We pulled over a truck pulling a horse trailer (older white woman, issued warning) and two U-Hauls (one younger white dude, ticket for speeding and one Hispanic couple issued warning). However, the bulk of our evening was spent pulling over black males. If we saw a black dude, any black dude, we would look for anything we might be able to pull them over for. He didn't say this, but I noticed it. Then we saw two black dudes driving a late model Lexus and that's when he said "this is what you really need to be on the look out for." I didn't say anything but I can't adequately describe the look on my face. It was probably a cross between the look one would get when you have to take a violent shit and there's no toilet around and the look you might give if you ever saw a dog jumping rope.

This went on all night. The vast majority of people we pulled over were black men. We probably gave out warnings 90% of the time. He was looking to find drugs not issue tickets. I'd like to point out two things. The deputy was African American. All I kept thinking was just because I'm white and well off don't assume I'm cool with this and also, bro, these are your own people. He obviously didn't see it that way and that is an entirely different discussion. The other thing I'd like to point out is that ironically, the only arrest we made was two young, poor white kids who looked like they were living out of their POS car for having some weed, probably enough to roll 2 or 3 joints.

Anyway, that was my experience. It was mostly boring and I actually fell asleep while he booked the kids. I wouldn't really be interested in doing it again, but if you ever get the chance, it can be enlightening.

[–]chokolatekookie2017 69 points70 points  (1 child)

My take away from your comment is that we should end the war on drugs.

[–]PrecedentialAssassin 22 points23 points  (0 children)

That's all I kept thinking the entire night. There was so much more to the entire evening. Listening to the resources they used trying to find the drugs and watching the infringements and inconveniences on innocent citizens I kept thinking, lets just legalize all this shit. And it was obvious from how he talked about different busts they had made that so much of their career relied upon hitting a big score that caught the attention of the media. Naturally they're going to go ham trying to make that bust.

[–]gerimismengundang 32 points33 points  (2 children)

Pro tip, if you're driving and a cop pulls along side of you and you don't want him to be suspicious, make eye contact with him and give a nod or something. He noted that anyone who doesn't acknowledge is nervous about something.

sometime it's also can be applied in friendly environment just to show the other person, that you notice them. I usually applied it with the janitor or security etc, just look them in the eye , nod and smile. they will appreciate the recognition, because mostly people just pass them without acknowledging their existence.

[–]Bart404 483 points484 points  (29 children)

Fucking chills down my spine when that girl ended the episode. Holy shit did she hit the bullseye there. Those were some powerful words.

[–]seeasea 130 points131 points  (18 children)

Usually he is balanced and can explain how an issue is complex but there are wrong ways of fixing it etc. But here straight out of the park, if you don't care about this issue, you can fuck right off. It's nice to see

[–]NotrightNorfair 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Is nobody gonna talk about the balls that one guy had to say fuck you and suck my dick and choke on it to that chief? I mean, he probably doesn't deserve that title.

[–]sudevsen 495 points496 points  (38 children)

Lady at the end channeling Malcolm X so hard I felt it in my soul.I think the "equality not revenge" quote was his.

Oliver does know how to do an ending.I was hoping for a dance of pigs wearing uniforms but this was better.

By the way I highly encourage everyone to watch Hasan Minaj's video LINK HERE and Cody Johnson's video LINK HERE for more good non-partisan cpverage

[–]JDLovesElliotScrubs 86 points87 points  (3 children)

Loved Hasan's video, especially because he focused on his cultural background of calling out the hypocrisy in our Asian community.

[–]lazypro189 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. Most of my Indian friends and their families vote republican largely because it benefits their pockets while telling their kids of the hardships they endured when they got to the US. Little do they know about hardships of other minorities in America. There is privilege in ignorance.

[–][deleted] 303 points304 points  (73 children)

Biden suggesting people get shot in the leg instead is the most Biden thing ever.

[–]TeamRedundancyTeam 222 points223 points  (58 children)

John Oliver saying he's the "get hit in the leg instead of the chest candidate" is the most accurate thing. It's hilarious and I'm glad John said it. Glad he called out the democrats here for their part in some of this too, it was refreshing to see. Time for everyone to start taking responsibility and accountability and holding our politicians to higher standards.

[–]Ash-NSouth Park 101 points102 points  (4 children)

Professor Duncan at his best.

[–]Cardboard_Chef 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Nice try, Ass-crack Bandit. Booya booya booya.

[–]TheColtOfPersonality 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Proving once again the Duncan Principle’s point that when enough control has been lost by the ego and gained by the id, an emotional breaking point emerges

[–]marioz90 190 points191 points  (0 children)

Of his best work, IMO

[–]Mitchs_Frog_Smacky 87 points88 points  (1 child)

“You’re lucky we’re looking for equality and not revenge.“

Wow. That’s the most powerful statement I’ve heard thus far.

[–]Swenskish 172 points173 points  (16 children)

One of their best episodes. The episodes where he truly shows how much he cares are very gripping.

[–]Al_C_Oholic 116 points117 points  (15 children)

Also I think hes been killing it lately after moving to a private, non-live studio audience venue. He doesnt play jokes for cheap laughs and doesnt have to listen for the crowds reaction. He could just rant

[–]mikeyfreshh 50 points51 points  (4 children)

I thought the first episode or two under the format felt weird but now that I'm used to it I think it's way better. I hope he stays with no audience even after the pandemic ends

[–]Al_C_Oholic 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Yeah if you go back and watch the first few videos it feels awkward. He pauses after a joke, seemingly waiting for an audience reaction, and his show was full of cheap jokes which audiences would laugh at, but now he'd make a few jokes but its mainly just content now

[–]DerUbiSons of Anarchy 204 points205 points  (6 children)

The video at the end is GOOOOSEEBUUUMPS

[–]chuckles2muchVeep 112 points113 points  (1 child)

This was such a good video. It indicted the whole system and the milquetoast reform that hasn’t really changed anything entrenched deep in the policing culture, and the politicians on both sides who prop up this system of brutality that disproportionately affects our fellow Black countrymen. It benefits all of us to have this ground up reform that reframed the discussion about the role of police in this country and how it needs to change.