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[–]FlyMyPig 2049 points2050 points  (177 children)

Krause prob had money on Nunes

[–][deleted] 671 points672 points  (43 children)

Everyone but Chael had money on nunes.

[–][deleted] 172 points173 points  (39 children)

Did he legit think Nunes was losing that?

I doubt the odds were remotely worth betting on for Nunes lol.

[–][deleted] 163 points164 points  (32 children)

He predicted Megan to win haha.

And the odds looked like boxing odds.

[–]Any-Work8308 56 points57 points  (9 children)

I distinctly remember Chael saying “I think we are going to see something new in this one. I do not, however, think we will see a new champion”

[–]pallablu 80 points81 points  (7 children)

when you can quote chael by memory you should be made honorary moderator

[–]jsilv0☠️ I'm picturing Carlos Newton's dong out there twerking 17 points18 points  (4 children)

How do you think I got to be a mod?

[–][deleted] 104 points105 points  (20 children)

Lol I gotta think that's just an attention grab. He'd say anything to get people talking about him I would wager lol. There's no way I'd believe he threw any money down it that's for sure hahaha.

[–]mensreaactusrea 55 points56 points  (16 children)

Chael is Chael so everything he says has that extra "Chael Oregon Gangster" flair to it. So it is our fault if we don't read between the lines.

[–]Greentacosmut 8 points9 points  (4 children)

I mean let’s be honest how many people bet on Peña and she beat Amanda

[–]EJ_1502Herb Dean's fault 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Chael predicted Peña winning lol

[–]terrence0258PhD in Armchair Psychology 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I bet my house on Nunes in that fight. Easiest $2 I've ever made in my life.

[–]codygreene37Look at me Now 196 points197 points  (93 children)

Been a bad week for The James Krause.

[–]KelvinsBeltFantasyBadger. Mushroom. TJ Dillashaw. 276 points277 points  (90 children)

James has been operating as he always has. People are just noticing.

I hope more fighters speak out against him but its unlikely. Megan can because she's retired and has a life outside fighting now.

It would be especially juicy is more wmma fighters especially spoke out.

[–][deleted] 138 points139 points  (76 children)

Krause is the one that cheated on his wife with Megan, correct?

If so, yeah, not a very chill dude.

[–]StankFishbald ratfuck 133 points134 points  (21 children)

Megan just accused Sanko of the same on twitter this morning. Something between the three of them went down and I hope we eventually get the truth

[–]RenweinTeam Esparza 67 points68 points  (10 children)

on Judge Judy

[–]baconatbacon 17 points18 points  (3 children)

How about a Mock Trial with Judge Reinhold?

[–]RenweinTeam Esparza 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Show Trial with Judge Sal D'Tomato

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Don’t leave out Adalyle Byrd and Chris Lee.

[–]wishwashyIs Totally Scared of Twerking 33 points34 points  (4 children)

Maybe James slept with all of them

[–]BackflippingOrb 33 points34 points  (3 children)

They used to have a show together called like the fluffy and Megan show or something that the James Krause situation ended. Their relationship has been fractured since. Cool to see it come up again with more info

[–]jj580 58 points59 points  (2 children)

"Fluffy & Megan"?!? Are you serious. They would never name it something so absurd.

It was "The Aussie & Fancy Show". Come on!

[–]BackflippingOrb 19 points20 points  (1 child)

I’m pretty bad with names and this is a pretty classic example of it. I’m glad that you were able to decipher what I said.

[–]jj580 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I was messing with you. "Aussie & Fancy" is an equally awful name

[–]Electromotivationtalk poop, get boop 151 points152 points  (30 children)

So credit to DrManhattan but Megan just said it was Sanko who slept with Krause:

https://twitter.com/spinninbackfist/status/1590739962466430978?s=46&t=w1ZPZcKpFICAzTpOhNkldg

[–]jns701How long must I wait? 2020 edition 90 points91 points  (3 children)

🎲🎲

[–]MoneyMo88 74 points75 points  (2 children)

Krause couldn’t resist DEM SWEATY HITTIES, bapa.

[–]Its_Poo_Man 59 points60 points  (1 child)

Talmabout Laura’s Sankos, B?

Great meat bumps

Neva touched em

[–]AlienMantidUFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Oh shit lol

[–]throwaway12648063 65 points66 points  (17 children)

Worth noting the only source on that is some random sherdog thread

[–]Armalyte 59 points60 points  (15 children)

Yeah but what colour was the guy's belt under his avatar?!

[–]hi_imryan 31 points32 points  (14 children)

Whoa flashbacks. Pre-Reddit sherdog was a trip.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (11 children)

Back when Fedor fans were the craziest in the sport

Look at us now

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

some random sherdog thread

Rock solid. Can't get any more definitive evidence than this.

[–]TheHardcoreCasual 267 points268 points  (21 children)

Krause is a sorry excuse of a man.

Dude always gave off the vibe that he couldn't care less about the people he's coaching. Literally just screaming and berating them for no reason (unlike sayif saud who actually gives good advice while encouraging his fighters emotionally)

suffice to say he was the one who kept telling Anthony Smith to throw the kitchen sink at Glover and yelling "go go go finish him! front kick overhand!" essentially letting Smith gas himself in the second round, then let him get beat up for 2 and a half rounds, with Smith telling them between rounds "my teeth are falling out" and them refusing to throw the towel.

I wouldn't trust this douche with a haircut, let alone cornering me in a fight, the narcissistic fuck.

[–][deleted] 85 points86 points  (1 child)

Smith: Coach, my teeth are falling out.

Krause: I bet this fight to go the distance. You hold onto those wrists and survive these rounds.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Smith also said he'd told his team that if they ever throw in the towel they'd be fired. IDK why a coach would agree to that its probably a toxic gym environment... in MMA no less shocking really

[–]DanaAteMyPaycheck 99 points100 points  (3 children)

Damn I didn't know people felt this way against Krause, the only thing I think is Moreno isn't exactly thriving at Glory at all. He brings his regular team across from Mexico with him and Krause did a great job in calling for that bodykick, but I actually thought Moreno looked worse in that victory over KKF than he did in his loss to Figueiredo. And they didn't seem to work on the fact he doesn't check kicks at all which is pretty much what lost him his title.

[–]WGYHL 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Yea I thought it kkfs fight till the body kick. I've never thought anything of Krause but yea I think Moreno has looked worse since going there. Aside from learning to adjust to leg kicks that is.

[–]DustedGrooveMark 17 points18 points  (0 children)

You know, I've always more or less supported Krause (that gym is like 1.5 hours from my house), but the more time goes by, the less I'm convinced that the gym is running smoothly and the less respect I have for him.

It seems like there's always controversy and people exit the gym, I don't even know if his record as a coach in the UFC is that great and it seems like the fights I've been really invested in have seen guys perform pretty badly (Anthony Smith, Megan Anderson, a handful of local guys I've always supported, etc.). I chalked it up to Krause either A) having too many people in the gym and not being able to give them proper attention or B) still trying to be an active fighter himself for a while. But that's not even considering all of the drama with affair accusations, betting controversy, etc.

The moment I became really put off is when Krause had a "sports betting expert" on his podcast and posted the clip to Instagram. The "expert" was literally picking Krause's fighter (Julian Marquez) to win and said he should have been a huge favorite. I knew that it was a really bad call but of course with that giant conflict of interest, the guy wasn't going to tell Krause on-air that his guy would lose. Of course Julian goes on to lose via first round KO. No disrespect to the fighter at all, but I just thought it was absurd that Krause would openly give betting advice on his own fighter.

[–]Ok_Solution5895 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Krause's "jokes" about betting are becoming my new favorite mma jokes, it's like the good old jokes about Gianluigi Buffon when the whole "calcioscomesse" controversy happened lol

[–]Engineering-Gloomy 446 points447 points  (54 children)

Megan vs Sanko coming so soon

[–]SolidOrphanBelgium 127 points128 points  (53 children)

weren't they buddies with a podcast?

[–]Damianf60GOOFCON 1: 2: Pandemic Boogaloo 132 points133 points  (0 children)

They also haven’t been friends in a while, and judging from Megan’s comments on her, there is a lot of animosity there.

[–]WhyDoIHaveAnAccount9 170 points171 points  (50 children)

then megan {allegedly} had relations with Laura's Lauren's friend's husband who may or may not have been james krause

[–]ItsDrManhattanMexico 262 points263 points  (20 children)

Megan is now saying it was Laura who slept with Krause lol this is not his week

https://twitter.com/spinninbackfist/status/1590739962466430978?s=46&t=w1ZPZcKpFICAzTpOhNkldg

[–]Electromotivationtalk poop, get boop 102 points103 points  (6 children)

Things are getting spicy!

[–]ItsDrManhattanMexico 114 points115 points  (5 children)

Too spicy lol Megan is in town doing media this week. Extremely bold of her to spill all the beans now

[–]Electromotivationtalk poop, get boop 99 points100 points  (4 children)

She sounds a bit fed up at the moment. Whether rightfully or wrongly.

[–]WhyDoIHaveAnAccount9 61 points62 points  (0 children)

This gets spicier every minute. Laura didn't want Megan horning in on her side action

[–]itsmeyourJared Cannonier was briefly Jewish and I'll never forget 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Damn, Krause living my dream in some ways

[–]fokureddit69 92 points93 points  (2 children)

The saddest thing in all this is sanko and Megan fought over boning James Krause.

[–]CryptoCrackoMcgregor railed me in a bathroom stall 35 points36 points  (0 children)

THE James Krause

[–]Ok-Ambassador-7952 62 points63 points  (18 children)

Gtfo is this confirmed anywhere? Gimme that sauce!

[–]HammyFreshUFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle 93 points94 points  (1 child)

Dublin whatsapp group

[–]mexicancardioMexico 54 points55 points  (6 children)

None of us know for sure, just threads on the UG. People point to the fact they ended their Aussie and Fancy podcast but I think Sanko and Anthony Smith’s podcast also ended and people aren’t making up a narrative about it

[–]HeronClassic 169 points170 points  (4 children)

Maybe Anthony smith is fucking Krause too 😤

[–]mc360jpThis is sucks 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Turns out Sanko’s fucking him (according to Megan) and maybe Anthony was also getting too close to her side piece 😡

[–]springpaper701Canada 31 points32 points  (8 children)

Like... you want the video?

[–]cyberslick188 95 points96 points  (5 children)

If James Krause made a porno I promise you the entire video is just his face.

[–]aesthetic_danknessSEE YOU AT THE BOTTOM 27 points28 points  (1 child)

And his ass cheeks

[–]Redoran_simp 48 points49 points  (0 children)

It's just 30 min of that weird angle where you just see his asshole and the back or his balls as he slams into a disembodied vagina.

[–]legendarybreed..the darren and khamzat at home.. 38 points39 points  (1 child)

Uh.... Yesh

[–]springpaper701Canada 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Same

[–]nut0003GOOFCON 2 - UFC 294[S] 1049 points1050 points  (131 children)

Thinking back on her performance on the night, it would make sense- she seemed like she had no idea what to do, and Nunes is never gonna give you the time to work it out on the fly.

[–]GaMa-BinkieYou are hurt by Dana only speaking the truth 462 points463 points  (37 children)

She also looked shell shocked walking into the arena, like she knew she was fucked after a shit camp

https://streamable.com/i2gvx5

[–]_MMAgodI coughed on Khamzat 217 points218 points  (10 children)

lol i remember this scene..

i already felt she had a slim chance to begin with but after watching this, i knew it'd be over in the 1st rd

[–]Aken42You can kiss my whole asshole 138 points139 points  (2 children)

I remember watching and thinking she looked like someone on their way to be fed to the lions. Seems accurate, especially of she felt ill prepared.

[–]3xFantasyChampion 24 points25 points  (0 children)

The actual fight really went like that too. DC had me dying when he Megan was getting pieced up and he went “Megan’s gotta… She’s just standing still!”

[–]WOOKIExCOOKIESOG Juicy Slut 27 points28 points  (0 children)

someone on their way to be fed to the lions lioness.

[–]GO_RAVENSI want to be slammed by Andrade 47 points48 points  (0 children)

That's a walk to the gallows if I've ever seen one.

[–]greyetchcoffee > crystals 65 points66 points  (5 children)

I bet 5 bucks on her because of that one time she got a KO win via her toenail going in someone's eye. The odds were CRAZY and I thought "fuck it, happened once, maybe Nunes will slip and fall and break he leg, who knows?"

When this clip aired I knew I had thrown away 5 dollars.

I decided I would never again bet against Amanda Nunes. She would lose her next fight via knockout submission.

[–]iznormalDemocratic People's Republic of Korea 28 points29 points  (2 children)

Nunes lost her next fight by submission, not KO

[–]greyetchcoffee > crystals 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah damn. I just remember those 1-2s piecing her up.

I'm a fucking punk dude

[–]derrick256 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Submission*

[–]mc360jpThis is sucks 106 points107 points  (7 children)

That’s gotta be upsetting. You spent years training and trying to be the best, you make it to the title shot, and you’re walking into it thinking “my camp really didn’t try, did they?…” knowing it’s too late but that you’re also at the summit and it’s time to perform… not even a Megan fan but, man, I’d look like that too with 1000 thoughts racing through my head all pointing to the fact that I’m about to get worked by the champ.

[–]LocoCoopermar 62 points63 points  (0 children)

She basically got led to the slaughter by her team, she knew walking in that she is screwed and this is basically an execution just so the gym can get a percentage of your show money.

[–]greyetchcoffee > crystals 41 points42 points  (5 children)

Not shocked she retired. Literally get to the very pinnacle, fighting for the title, and nobody will help you... What a fucking scam.

[–]red_eyed_knight 115 points116 points  (1 child)

Looked like a walk to the executioners chair. Never seen a walkout like that before in 15 years following the sport. Felt really sorry for her that night

[–]Dick_Kickem88 36 points37 points  (0 children)

That's the look of someone walking into their own funeral.

[–]jarplack 23 points24 points  (1 child)

She looks like she's being taken to the electric chair

[–]TangoFantango 356 points357 points  (55 children)

I think Amanda would've won regardless of what megan did to be honest.

[–]nut0003GOOFCON 2 - UFC 294[S] 536 points537 points  (28 children)

I agree but I think she couldve at least given an account of herself with a better camp

[–]reticulatedjigMarijuana Guy 207 points208 points  (27 children)

I think megan should have realized after 1 month where she got 4 pad sessions total, that she needs to find somewhere else.

Edit: it sounds like this was a ongoing thing, with years of substandard training. Why buy a house in that area then, tying you to the area and gym

[–]Antbanks75Peppa Pig > Bellator 176 points177 points  (4 children)

She tweeted: “Should have left years ago but financially wasn't in a place where I could. I'd also just bought a house and was too 'loyal' and just accepted that I wasn't going to get the coaching and did the best I could 🤷🏻‍♀️“

Everyone likes to think they’d make the “right decision” but some people truly are loyal to a fault.

[–]LargeTeethHere 31 points32 points  (2 children)

I believe this, and I believe her. It happens, but going through something like that made her realize she needs a new camp

[–]Jwagner0850United States 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Or just feel stuck. It's not easy just "leaving" like that.

[–][deleted] 75 points76 points  (5 children)

Cuz she and Krause were banging, and she didn't realize she was just the side chick.

[–][deleted] 57 points58 points  (4 children)

He was married though lol.

How are you sneaking around with a married man and don’t realize you’re the side piece?

Also, how is Krause gonna run around with a woman and not even offer her personalized training? That’s one of the most savage things I’ve ever heard. Dude must be stingy as fuck about who gets coaching time.

[–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (2 children)

There's a lot of circumstantial evidence to it. The rumor was that Sanko disowned her over it.

How are you sneaking around with a married man and don’t realize you’re the side piece?

Because you think he's gonna leave his wife for you. Because you're broke and thousands of miles from home wrapped up in the craziest career in the world and you just need something to hold on to.

[–]Darth_Steve 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Wait, is that why they stopped doing their show?

[–]notafeetlongcucumber 103 points104 points  (0 children)

So should clear underdogs just go into their fight with little to no training because they are gonna lose anyway? Peña, TJ v Barao, Cody v Cruz (not a huge underdog but the best example of the perfect gameplan), Holm v Rousey and many more could've gone and lost without putting up a fight, and you would've said the same.

[–]mentalesGOOFCON 2 - Electric Boogaloo 176 points177 points  (4 children)

I think Amanda would've won regardless of what megan did to be honest.

Talmbout sum high luvel analyzesis b.

[–]dumbdumb407 48 points49 points  (7 children)

Megan's coach agrees with you.

[–]GitGudOrGetGot 17 points18 points  (6 children)

What coach

[–]daffle7Team Esparza 36 points37 points  (5 children)

Shiiii, I’d coach her. I took boxing classes for 6 months when I was a teenager and watch a lot of UFC

[–]Altair1192EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I play EA UFC 4. I know all the moves

[–]damage-fkn-incall hail the gentle giant 28 points29 points  (1 child)

I'm a 5th degree black belt in just seeing red bro, we should start an MMA gym together.

[–]judohartEDDDDDIEEEEEEEE 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Are you in socal? I'm looking for a striking coach and I'm liking your credentials.

[–]JColeisokatbestTeam Esparza 45 points46 points  (0 children)

What if she ducked her head to the side whilst throwing a jab about 6-7 times?

[–]Sp1nne 20 points21 points  (0 children)

It's safe to say she would, but having a reach advantage and take an easy beating on foot like she did shows they had no gameplan.

[–]orangeorappleI ain’t buyin y’all shit though 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I feel like Megan would admit that herself tbh

[–]littlegreyflowerhelp 371 points372 points  (28 children)

It's been a bad week for James Krause

[–]ohmyblahblah 61 points62 points  (22 children)

What else has been going on?

[–]TheBigRedHalfricanThey don't really care about us, man 380 points381 points  (16 children)

Minner (a fighter coached by Krause) had a fight this past weekend where the betting line moved by between 150-160 cents in favour of his opponent in the HOUR leading up to that fight. That’s line movement that is completely unheard of in such a short period of time.

Minner then went out there and threw a kick within the first 15 seconds that clearly injured his leg, and then whipped the exact same kick immediately after he recovered his stance and went down instantly. Got abused on the ground and finished shortly after.

Krause has been heavily involved in the MMA gambling world running grifts where he would claim that he made more money gambling than he did running the gym and coaching. He even tried to run an “account takeover” side hustle where he would gamble with other peoples’ money and then take like 65% of the profit.

Fight is under investigation now for fuckery because of the suspicious line movement, which almost certainly will run Krause into the line of fire due to his connections with gambling (especially since it is now against policy for any coaching staff, fighters, or management staff to gamble on the UFC).

[–]GumpTheChump 96 points97 points  (0 children)

Adding to that, a lot of money came down via prop betting on a first round stoppage, which is suspect as hell.

[–]AndTheElbowGrease 71 points72 points  (2 children)

So - hurt yourself training prior to the fight.

Know you need expensive surgery.

Can't afford to back out of the fight.

Go into the fight knowing you will lose in the 1st.

Make it look like your injury happened during the fight, so the UFC will pay for it.

[–]ohmyblahblah 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Nice detail. Thanks 👍👍

[–]sspiritusmundi 43 points44 points  (5 children)

Holy shit. I watched that fight I though it was the worst fight IQ I have seen. The guy clearly hurt his leg, couldn't they do an MRI just to check if his leg was really fucked?

[–]JoshyginFaych foha de belch 67 points68 points  (4 children)

I don't think they're doubting he's injured, but the speculation is it might have been an existing injury that people (like maybe his coach) knew about.

[–]SnooBeans7129 71 points72 points  (1 child)

The whole controversy surrounding him betting on his fighters I think

[–]ohmyblahblah 20 points21 points  (0 children)

That had passed me by, thanks

[–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (1 child)

A fighter he coaches was in a fight that is being investigated for fixing. I don’t think there’s any proof of his involvement currently but it doesn’t look good when betting is his whole thing.

[–]Rendakor 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The betting issues/rumors around the Shayilan Nuerdanbieke vs. Darrick Minner fight.

[–]Jfkc5117I fucking love you too buddy 150 points151 points  (1 child)

That is James The James Krause Krause to you mister.

Also happy cake day.

[–]Rebar4Life 601 points602 points  (108 children)

I don’t understand how someone could get such few pad sessions. Could you just find another person and take turns?

[–]somewhatfamiliar2223Team Askarov 479 points480 points  (17 children)

We had a fighter from our gym, not a ufc pro but had a good record with fights in higher tier promotions, go to Glory for a camp and they said that no one at glory would drill, roll, or spar with them. They would end up having to sit out entire training sessions that gym is so cliquey. They had us at their home gym game planning and giving them after hours pad and training sessions on the low to get them ready.

It sucked that they had their time wasted and got treated like a red headed step child when they were hoping going to Glory would help them network to break into the big leagues.

That gym has a rotten culture. Aside from getting no coaching I wouldn’t be surprised if Megan didn’t have any training partners helping her either.

[–]Daiba187 186 points187 points  (3 children)

Lol wtf. Ironic that Krause was talking shit about Joaquin Buckley when his gym has such a toxic environment.

[–]jakesemailacc 107 points108 points  (1 child)

waited tell buckley got a big ko then tried to rain on his parade becauae hes an asshole

[–]Remonte1 42 points43 points  (0 children)

And 80% of people here believed it even tho it was essentially a he-said-she-said situation.

[–]CoastDirect6132 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Maybe Buckley just kicked the shit out of Krause or some of his boys in sparring

[–]Mahalati-Al-BinGOOFCON 2 - Electric Boogaloo 139 points140 points  (9 children)

[–]jonesgust 47 points48 points  (7 children)

Molina response in the replies sounds like there is more than one side of the story.

[–]Kgb725 68 points69 points  (2 children)

It sounds like we've finally got some good Wmma drama that isn't fighters dating their coaches

[–]Thanos40This is sucks 45 points46 points  (0 children)

but in true WMMA fashion it at least has an aspect of that as well

[–]wimpymistraw in that ass 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There is also that going on lol

[–]time_for_milkGOOFCON 2 20 points21 points  (0 children)

True but it also begs more questions about how the gym functions. He says Meagan would intentionally hurt sparring partners that were new to the sport, including breaking a soccer mom's nose. The question is, why the hell were she sparring people like that in the first place? Maybe she asked for it, but it should be the gym's responsibility to protect unskilled members and supply decent sparring competition for the competition athletes. Absolutely ridiculous.

[–]Incubus85 157 points158 points  (8 children)

Understandable given the performance. She looked unprepared and ready to quit. I thought she could've given a good account of herself.

This makes sense, even if exaggerated. Anyone who's been in a camp and a team should know the weird situations and obligations. If they had a cash cow in moreno and others earning more, you'll maximise your earning potential.

Really didn't expect Anderson to win it. So you're only taking a cut of show money, fighter end of contract in an almost unwinnable fight. She seemed to be setting up other avenues.

Tricky for everyone. But they shouldve supported her

[–]Ok_Solution5895 66 points67 points  (3 children)

I thought she could've given a good account of herself.

I thought at least she had a puncher's chance, since she did have some decent power (she even hurt Holly at the beginning of their fight before being dominated), then I saw her looking like a ghost before the fight even began and I was like "yeah, no, this is a wrap" lol Knowing about this, I felt 100x times worse for her, like she really realized she was 100% fucked.

[–]Incubus85 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Youre absolutely right. She looked like she was partying on a boat then mcgregors boat came over and he told her he was coked up and ready for a bareknuckle. I can't only imagine how weak she felt.

[–]Dick_Kickem88 12 points13 points  (1 child)

What a ludicrously funny scenario lol.

[–]cheerioo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yup we've heard stories about this time and time again, about gyms putting all their efforts into their prizefighter and other fighters getting neglected. Happened with Jones/Evans as an example.

[–][deleted] 53 points54 points  (1 child)

This is pretty huge reveal for a youtube comment lol. Hope she's willing to talk to the media about it, this could and should turn into a big story. We've had a few gym drama stories recently, but nothing as serious as this, huge stain for that whole gym if they cant give any kind of actual excuse.

[–]ItsDrManhattanMexico 49 points50 points  (7 children)

https://twitter.com/spinninbackfist/status/1590739962466430978?s=46&t=w1ZPZcKpFICAzTpOhNkldg

Megan is now saying Laura and Krause banged. Arent they both married? 🥴

[–]somewhatfamiliar2223Team Askarov 61 points62 points  (6 children)

They both were married…Krause’s wife initiated a divorce and Sanko has stopped wearing her ring. Krause’s ex is also a big tiddy blonde so Sanko seems to be his type.

[–]ItsDrManhattanMexico 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Jesus man that sucks. Head coaches in MMA gyms have a pretty shady track record with female students.

[–]somewhatfamiliar2223Team Askarov 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Yeah it’s shitty all around. Krause’s ex financially supported him when he was a struggling fighter and takes on most of the childcare as he travels a lot to corner and he cheated on her pretty openly as soon as he started to have some success.

[–]kaioone 87 points88 points  (12 children)

I wonder what was going on.

Did they just have favourites? Were they overstretched as staff members? Did they think she wasn’t worth it?

That would explain the offhanded approach. Did they think another member at Glory was worth their time or was the ‘big new thing’, so tried to get in with him?

I assume she was under contract or couldn’t afford to leave, that seems the most likely.

[–]therukusUFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I wonder what was going on.

fight fixin sir

[–]KelvinsBeltFantasyBadger. Mushroom. TJ Dillashaw. 207 points208 points  (20 children)

Krause is essentially the Ali of coaches. Very good at getting low level competition to the big leagues but once they're there, they don't have the tools to win.

The UFC propaganda machine loves him because he serves a useful purpose. He provided a pipeline of low level fighters to fill out fight night prelims. I've seen him compared him to a puppy mill.

His actual coaching during fights Is also fascinating. He comes up with incredibly intricate game plans but because he has so many fighters he can't drill it into each one. This results in him micro managing them during the fights. Notice he doesn't stop yelling from the corner. He doesn't let his fighters improvise or learn or adapt. They aren't allowed to think. Then between rounds he either gives them a wall of advice that they can't adjust or empty platitudes about how they have to fight harder etc. He doesn't know many of his fighters on a personal level well enough to let them talk back or even have input.

All this results in Glory Hole MMA having close to a 1/3 win rate. His best prospect was Grant Dawson who wisely left for ATT and Tim Elliot who is a gate keeper. I don't count Brandon because he came there as a fully formed product.

It's about time we're seeing criticism of him. We've watched all his good will run out. This place used to love him and downvote anyone who disagreed.

[–]OldeEnglishD 91 points92 points  (3 children)

not sure if you put “glory hole mma” on purpose or not but I hope it stays.

[–]KelvinsBeltFantasyBadger. Mushroom. TJ Dillashaw. 45 points46 points  (0 children)

It had purpose. They're a hole of the glory variety. Ive been calling them that for a while.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (1 child)

He wrote glory and his autocorrect put in his usual lol

[–]thelectricrainPB cookies & Flat Earth 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Lmfaoo Glory Hole MMA

[–]idontknowijustdontkn 68 points69 points  (4 children)

Honestly pretty sad. I still remember how she looked like she was a prisoner being taken for her execution on that day - which, in a way, I guess she kind of was.

[–]Robertwolfgang 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that would be everyone walking into a fight with almost zero training.

[–]HeroicshrubUFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Damn she really looked like shit

[–]mensreaactusrea 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I remember that walk out... I looked to my friends and was like, "uhm...does she know where she is? She looks scared or lost." It was not a good look.

[–]je66bJon "can I get that towel" Anik 6 points7 points  (0 children)

gah damn, she's walking through the PI like kids in movies trying not to get noticed by an angry drunk father.

[–]SecondsOut55Team Adesanya 91 points92 points  (2 children)

We all know the reason, Krause bet on Nunes in Round 1.

[–]PM_ME_BEST_BOOTY_PIC 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Is it just me or do we learn more and more each day how much of an unlikable douchebag Krause truly is?

[–]Fun-Teaching-2038 195 points196 points  (18 children)

I give her credit because me as a grown man I ain’t getting in that cage with Amanda after a few 30 min pad sessions.

[–]TheOtherGuttersnipe 157 points158 points  (7 children)

I would, but I also just see red bro. Are Monsters on the banned substance list or no

[–]CryptoCrackoMcgregor railed me in a bathroom stall 41 points42 points  (3 children)

Not really but nobody would accept a fight with a B B B Beast like you B

[–]cdawg145236Team Usman 29 points30 points  (2 children)

Next level work ethnic

[–]Mikniks 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Dude don’t drink a Monster, you just have to win the fight - you don’t have to kill her too

[–]DrCocktapus 32 points33 points  (4 children)

Megan just posted and quickly deleted a tweet claiming that Krause & Sanko are sleeping together, in case anyone actually thinks that this isn't solely about personal petty bullshit.

[–]platasnatch 56 points57 points  (2 children)

Zack Brown Band sounds like a dick

[–]StonedZachBryanFan 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Zack Bryan on the other hand, would never do that to you Platasnatch

[–]Ok-Education-9235 24 points25 points  (0 children)

After week one of only having 30 minutes on the pads, she should have been outta there. I feel bad for her. She probably felt staying was the smartest move, but it was guaranteed to end poorly for her. Leaving the gym would have been a huge risk for her (not just in terms of fighting, but financially) but was the only way to have a chance in this fight. I can’t blame her for her choices, though. MMA is the exact opposite of a golden ticket. It will most likely leave you with a few extra bucks and a broken body when it’s all said and done, unless you’re in the top 0.5% of fighters. She got rolled by Amanda but kept her finances in balance and is doing well for herself now outside of MMA. Sucky situation all around

[–]SubstantialMammoth24 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Just here to watch the exact same people that have been sucking Krause’s sac this last year now talk about how shitty of a person he is.

[–]brendino_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Lmao this fan base is actually unreal

[–]SerboDuckScotland 14 points15 points  (1 child)

If that’s true then fair enough tbh, 1 x 30 min pad work is nothing.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

At that point I just find some buds and train myself in a garage. Maybe ask Jack Slack for a game plan lol.

[–]fightsgoneby✅ Jack Slack | Author 42 points43 points  (1 child)

I'd have just told her to dipping jab and she'd have won the belt

[–]5plus5isnot10 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Looks like Glory MMA doesn't have enough coaches and/or is mismanaged

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Makes sense.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I’ve gotten better coaching as a white belt doing my first NAGA tournament.

[–]BrawndoTTMCanada 12 points13 points  (0 children)

James Krause is the most overrated coach of all time. Epitome of quantity over quality.

[–]percydamanEDDDDDIEEEEEEEE 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Oof that sucks. But damn, she let 7 months go by, and didn't think by like month 2, that she was getting screwed over? If she doesn't have someone on her team whose job is to advocate for, than well this definitely partly her fault.

[–]LockmasockThis is sucks 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Jesus Christ I could’ve ran a better camp 🤣 what the fuck is going on dude? Like the whole gym said nah you’re dead good luck.

[–]FunkyBoil 93 points94 points  (11 children)

People hate Megan so much lol it's okay to like Amanda and not hate Megan guys 🤣

[–]vrsick06Team GSP 42 points43 points  (10 children)

Why do people hate her? I’m surprised people care enough to hate her.

[–]sdprBig ol’ Mexican with a big ol’ head 53 points54 points  (6 children)

Didn't realize there was hate for her at all. She seems very nice whenever I see her stuff.

Haters gonna hate though. Maybe they hate a pretty Amazonian Aussie with legs long enough to kick my ancestors.

[–]AlienMantidUFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle 31 points32 points  (8 children)

Holy shit Jeff Molina coming hard at Megan. Shit is getting spicy!

https://twitter.com/jmolina_125/status/1590763026856091648

[–]fucktorynonces 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Moreno succeeding doesn't discredit what Megan says. It's normal for 1 fighter to succeed if the coaches are neglecting other fighters in favour of Moreno. That being said. I know nothing about internal working of glory MMA. Maybe she right, maybe she wrong. Not enough to go on. Story is plausible. Perfect example is firas zahabi. He always has 1 good fighter that gets all the focus.

[–]catluvr37 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I don’t get how a professional athlete can get 7 months of shit training and not take matters into their own hands? Not doubting Megan, but there’s got to be more to this.

[–]migglywiggly69Donald Ceronne’s Black Friend 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Bruh Moreno was already a championship level fighter before getting there

[–]Dry_Presentation_327 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That James Krause guy is overrated..he made moreno made do lubre dance for first 3 rounds and moreno was not dominating..moreno when he threw away the strategy and started throwing hands

[–]Traditional-Name2464 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Can we start calling it Glory hole mma?

[–]academictoss 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Not that it would have made a lick of difference anyway, but fuck dude, that’s awful.

[–]spcslackerCondit's TDD coach 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Not that it would have made a lick of difference anyway

I think it would have made an huge difference to Megan.

Having to walk out like a condemned prisoner on the biggest night of your career, undoubtedly scared as hell (and showing it) due to lack of training, and then having to eat that as what everyone will know you for.

She wasn't winning against that Amanda, but she could have come out with the confidence of good training & a team behind you, and lost to the female GOAT in one-sided fashion, and still felt a lot more OK about it than what actually happened.

[–]Aljo_Is_135_GOAT 40 points41 points  (7 children)

I wonder if we'd see as much victim blaming if this was a popular fighter lmfao

[–]CryptoCrackoMcgregor railed me in a bathroom stall 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Say Alex Pereira gets completely dominated by Izzy, then comes out and says he only did one 30 min pad session a week for SEVEN MONTHS.. well yeah

[–]chillahibbzOnly man that Schaub has ever met that didn't have a piece, AMA 61 points62 points  (19 children)

People commenting "she would've still lost" are tools.

[–]logzeeTHATS THE FUCKING SEED 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I gotta say people are always trash talking women’s division and women’s fighters without taking a look a shit like this. It is not easy to be a woman in mma, you don’t get the same respect or attention. If a fighter going for a world title is getting this treatment imagine what some of these other women’s camps look like