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[–]coalflints 1194 points1195 points  (73 children)

AstraZeneca may be able to help

[–]Omega33umsure 371 points372 points  (51 children)

Please god no. I can't listen to another one of their ads again!

For those not in the US They play them almost EVERY commercial break.

[–]--mike- 147 points148 points  (41 children)

Lol not even uploaded by them and 30k views on YouTube, totally free advertising. Probably the first medicine advert I’ve ever seen too, we don’t get them in the Uk

[–]mattverso 114 points115 points  (31 children)

Yeah every time I see one of those prescription medicine ads I’m really aghast at how absolutely disgusting they are. Why the fuck would you tell a doctor what medicine you think they should prescribe? That’s their job.

[–]Chris2112 81 points82 points  (24 children)

Doctors in the US are also bribed by pharmaceutical companies (all perfectly legal stuff like free "seminar" lunches at 5 star restaurants, etc) so don't necessarily assume what the doctor is prescribing is the right option for you either

[–]mattverso 35 points36 points  (2 children)

Well I think that’s true everywhere. I’m in Ireland and used to work at theatre/venue which was used to host several seminars like you mention. But when it did we had to black out all the windows in the lobby as it’s illegal to show the name of a prescribed drug in a public place (because it counts as advertising).

[–]Gwilikers6 3 points4 points  (1 child)

My girlfriend works for a company that sets up these lunches literally for a pharmaceutical company. The businesses entire existence is making these "programs" and catering the food. Doctors will give slideshows about new drugs and the benefits they have to their staff or to other doctors from wherever. It's kinda strange but I've often heard the doctors sound genuinely excited about drugs coming on the market with promising trial results to help their patients

E: I have not attended haha they have all been on zoom/conference lately because covid and I've been in the room

[–]Chefaustinp 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I used to cater these lunches 4-5 times a week. The drug reps would spare no expense. Prepare little gift bag packages full of all kinds of vouchers and stuff, and there would be tiered incentives. Like “if you’re hospital prescribes 10,000 doses in the first 6 months you’ll be eligible for these vacation packages.”

Edit: 2009-2012

[–]WeirdChestPain 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Is this where the big pharma stems from?

[–]WillWheel 8 points9 points  (3 children)

This isn’t the industry standard in pharma anymore btw it was the case a few years back to ‘entice’ HCP (healthcare professionals)

[–]CONJON520 5 points6 points  (2 children)

These are all not very common practice now as it’s obvious preferred treatment. Maybe some lunches and baked goods do some persuading in the long run, but the real dangerous one is giving stock from their company to the doctor.

[–]beachlover77 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I like the part at the end where they list the horrible side effects really quickly.

[–]cpMetis 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It plays a big role in normalizing medication and getting people more involved with their own health.

Especially with the rampant healthcare costs, the US has a very strong "put some dirt on it" culture. It helps at least a bit with it.

[–]youtossershad1job2do 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Why the fuck did I spend a minute of my life watching that?

[–]Dodgerballs 32 points33 points  (13 children)

Bought the stock on Friday expecting a huge jump today. It did the opposite.

[–]fishing4karma 9 points10 points  (10 children)

Same, apparently we know something the investors don’t

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    [–]Exodus111 18 points19 points  (3 children)

    Most likely lots of people bought in, expecting a jump, didn't see it so started selling and the market cascaded down.

    The market has a much bigger effect on itself than actual reality.

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Or they know something you don't

    [–]Brendanmicyd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    First thing I thought of

    [–]Balls_of_Adamanthium 1780 points1781 points  (63 children)

    Good. Covid can fuck right off.

    [–]DefiantLoan 196 points197 points  (34 children)

    Agreed. Happy cake day!

    [–]Balls_of_Adamanthium 90 points91 points  (33 children)

    Thanks friend!

    [–]Reuhis 33 points34 points  (32 children)

    Happy cake day

    [–]Balls_of_Adamanthium 47 points48 points  (31 children)

    Thanks buddy!

    [–]thegngirl 33 points34 points  (11 children)

    I’m not your buddy guy!!!

    [–]SellingSkoomaInBruma 16 points17 points  (9 children)

    Not your guy, friend.

    [–]socman187 15 points16 points  (8 children)

    Not your friend, pal.

    [–]JackTheFatErgoRipper 13 points14 points  (7 children)

    .

    [–]JaggaBomb 8 points9 points  (6 children)

    I'm not your man, woman.

    [–]nessao616 24 points25 points  (0 children)

    Fuck right off straight into hell.

    [–]CommunistSnail 9 points10 points  (12 children)

    Now we just have to get everyone to take the vaccine...

    [–]UndercoverEgg 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    Yes indeed, balls to Covid tbe twat

    [–]ThatSpaceShooterGame 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    So say we all.

    [–]jimboknows6916 686 points687 points  (280 children)

    I am not smart enough to play downer here. can someone else tell me why i shouldnt be excited and this isnt actually good news

    EDIT: Thank you all for the info. Seems to be summed up like this - its a step in the right direction and very encouraging. US users could be forced to pay large amounts for the vaccine. long term effects are unknown. I would qualify it as cautiously optimistic.

    [–]RollingThunder_CO 535 points536 points  (59 children)

    Yeah there are always a lot of downers for “uplifting news” haha.

    I THINK the negative view is a lot of side effects (even though they’re mild / moderate).

    The T cell component seems to be promising though and this is overall certainly more good news than bad news.

    [–]INFsleeper 326 points327 points  (18 children)

    Side effects for vaccines are nothing new and these are very mild supposedly.

    [–]RollingThunder_CO 99 points100 points  (0 children)

    For sure, was just trying to provide the “negative” view that the person I was responding to asked for. To me this seems like best we could hope for at this point.

    [–]UltimateInferno 33 points34 points  (15 children)

    I'm going to randomly guess that we'll have to go another 6 months before any real progress is made. Just to not get my hopes up.

    [–]youritalianjob 24 points25 points  (0 children)

    They’re targeting fall and have so far said they are on track.

    [–]GeneralWeebeloZapp 18 points19 points  (0 children)

    The good news is I have read that several companies are already producing vaccines at full scale even while they are still in trials. Its risky from a business standpoint but it means that as soon as they are (hopefully) approved they will have millions of doses on hand.

    [–]sixth_snes 26 points27 points  (12 children)

    The rest of the world can handle 6 more months of this. The US might not...

    Also 6 months is probably very optimistic.

    [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

    It’s not. There are four different vaccines and this isn’t even the first one shown to have a positive immune response. I think the other one had a positive immune response in all participants.

    They have to make sure it works against the actual Virus though. You’ll probably know by November if one of these ones work, though, even if you can’t get it hey.

    [–]UltimateInferno 5 points6 points  (4 children)

    I never said 6 months until it's distributed, only 6 months to any semblance of real progress, that can mean anything.

    [–]MrF_lawblog 12 points13 points  (3 children)

    They are saying September and they are already manufacturing the vaccine assuming/hoping it will work.

    Edit: "AstraZeneca has agreed to sell the vaccine on a not-for-profit basis during the crisis if it proves effective and has lined up deals with multiple manufacturers to produce more than 2 billion doses."

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-07-15/oxford-s-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-coronavirus-front-runner

    [–]brucebrowde 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    If this arrives in September... Damn, I'd be sooooo happy!

    [–]jimboknows6916 155 points156 points  (13 children)

    thats what i like to hear! i would prefer mild side effects to getting COVID.

    [–]NotAGoodRedditor 24 points25 points  (9 children)

    Yes, COVID sucks!

    [–]Donteventrytomakeme 16 points17 points  (6 children)

    Can confirm! My mom had COVID-19 in December, it sucks SO BAD. Even this mild case was hellish. I can't imagine what it's like if you have complications.

    [–]Icy_Ad4208 17 points18 points  (5 children)

    I don’t want to sound dumb but I’m genuinely curious - wasn’t the first confirmed COVID case in late November in Hubei? How did your mom get it in December unless you live in China?

    [–]Donteventrytomakeme 21 points22 points  (4 children)

    My personal theory is that it's because my mother had co-workers come in from a business trip in China. My mother is immunocompromised so I think that's how they contracted it. A few of the people on the trip got sick too. Everyone who was sick has had the antibodies tested and been confirmed to have had Covid and recovered. While we can't say for absolutely certain that getting sick in December was when they had Covid, it seems likely since the symptoms matched up and the antibodies test confirmed they had been infected in the past.

    [–]KorianHUN 8 points9 points  (2 children)

    So the theories about it starting in September seem more and more realistic every day.
    The way they silenced the doctors "initially" sounds like they knew about it already.

    [–]Tyler1107 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    I was the most sick I've ever been. In late November. I lost my taste and smell. Had a bad cough and ended up getting mild pneumonia. Got a flu test and it was negative. So not sure what I had, but pretty sure it felt like covid. Wife got it too. Same negative flu test. We are getting antibody tests tmw. I haven't been sick or had any symptoms since then. So if it is a positive antibody test that theory may be plausible.

    Edit: we also both worked in hotels with lots of contact from traveler from all over the world. Often times China

    [–]KorianHUN 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I find that interesting... I never even HEARD of a flu test here. In Hungary you get your prescriptions, paperwork for school or job to let you stay at home and that is it.

    I think here they only do any kind of test in case of a serious illnesses.

    [–]Lumpy_Doubt 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    Side effects may include loss of scalp and penis

    [–]jimboknows6916 15 points16 points  (0 children)

    dont need either of them, bald and married BAZINGA HILARIOUS JOKE, ME

    [–]rhumbline9 36 points37 points  (0 children)

    Give me a cold, if it will prevent COVID-19. Where do I sign up?

    [–]Hateitwhenbdbdsj 23 points24 points  (0 children)

    Important to point out that the 'negative' aspect of this piece of uplifting news is a lot less worse than the traditional negative aspect of other breaking scientific news.

    [–]Enenke 19 points20 points  (10 children)

    I heard someone else mention the side effects were mostly well managed with paracetamol, so that’s even more promising news

    [–]RollingThunder_CO 8 points9 points  (7 children)

    Disclaimer: I am far from a scientist. But I did read the actually paper and not just an article about it and it seemed to me that the managing of symptoms was a bit oversold ... they were less frequent but not by what I would consider a large amount. But again that’s coming from someone who hasn’t read a scientific paper since college so I’d be happy to be corrected by someone who has more of a background!

    [–]Critterer 15 points16 points  (5 children)

    Im in the trial - had minor flu like symptoms for about 24 hours immediately after. No further issues so far (but only had the jab like 2 weeks ago). Have to send off my second swab test tomorrow

    [–]Enenke 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Aha same, this is just going of a comment in another sub, would love a good explanation. This is yet another reason why science communication is so important.

    Edit: found the comment. You should also check out the rest of the thread and post, they seem to have a better understanding.

    [–]Un_controllably 11 points12 points  (5 children)

    I'd take a headache and some days of fever over possibly being on a ventilator ANY DAY. I'll be first in line when this comes out.

    [–]eljefino 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I'm imagining that line to be like Black Friday, but better.

    [–]jemyr 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I know there's a huge group of people who are suspicious of intervening in the "natural" way of things, and won't want to get vaccinated because of the risks of the vaccine. It's a good time to point out that the odds of catching this illness are extremely high, and those who experience the side effects of catching the virus are in the moderate/severe range.

    I know plenty of people that would think it might be a better idea to catch smallpox than be vaccinated against it, because God will save them naturally, and unnatural intervention is weird, and humans screw things up more.

    [–]hurtsdonut_ 128 points129 points  (93 children)

    It's good news. The only down side could be how long the protection lasts. The vaccine is safe though.

    [–]jimboknows6916 20 points21 points  (22 children)

    that does sound like good news! Thank you! do they have any idea on the effective life of the vaccine? i assume not yet.

    [–]hurtsdonut_ 36 points37 points  (15 children)

    They don't know yet. Would be great if it was a year. Then it could be just like flu shots.

    [–]Styphin 24 points25 points  (13 children)

    They said this morning they are “optimistic” it could last 1-2 years.

    [–]ihateusernames1029 18 points19 points  (9 children)

    Fine with me, give me the booster, I just want this shit to be over with

    [–]Styphin 11 points12 points  (8 children)

    Same. The challenge will definitely be mandating all Americans get the vaccine. People seriously think Bill Gates wants to microchip them via the vaccine.

    [–]ThemisNemesis 12 points13 points  (6 children)

    That Bill Gates is a very busy man these days, what with plotting the downfall of the world by starting a pandemic in order to implant nanochips in people via a mandated fake vaccine and...something something 5G something?

    It’s a wonder the guy has time to eat. 😉

    [–]atomfullerene 6 points7 points  (3 children)

    The rich don't eat, they are kept alive by direct transfusion of the blood of poor people, wake up sheeple

    [–]0vl223 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Way easier to pay someone for eating and then steal their blood afterwards.

    [–]Jberry0410 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Yep, that would be great.

    [–]RollingThunder_CO 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    They don’t know but the T-cell portion should help it be effective longer ... or at least that’s my totally uneducated understanding.

    [–]DeezNeezuts 8 points9 points  (3 children)

    They don’t know it actually works yet. Just that it creates a reaction. The larger tests for efficacy just started.

    [–]Aeium 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    If passes the saftey test and they can measure covid antibodies, I would just go ahead and take it if it was possible.

    I think the remaining issue is it might not confer enough protection to be worth mass producing?

    Aren't they preemptively going to mass produce it anyway though?

    I that case I think it makes sense if the bar is a little lower for effectiveness.

    [–]clarko21 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Yes they already started mass producing before this trial even ended. Next trial will actually test efficacy though

    [–]Starlord_who 64 points65 points  (30 children)

    It doesn't matter

    If it lasts a few months covid will still die down due to way less people getting it

    [–]PerroLabrador 59 points60 points  (25 children)

    If the vaccination campaign is massive enough, entire countries can be freed from the pandemic.

    [–]Mr_Viper 51 points52 points  (21 children)

    Ugh... unfortunately, there are plenty of people who will choose to not get the vaccine.

    [–]halite001 13 points14 points  (16 children)

    At least now their actions will only affect them alone (exluding those who cannot get the vaccine for legitimate medical reasons), unlike mask deniers.

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      [–]halite001 6 points7 points  (2 children)

      Which will be much less efficient at spreading the disease as long as people are getting the vaccine.

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        [–]_Junkstapose_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Herd-immunity is a thing and has already been threatened by anti-vaxxers in the past. Those who cannot receive the vaccinations are only protected because everyone around them are vaccinated and unable to contract/transmit the virus to them.

        People refusing to get vaccinated are definitely a danger to others.

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          [–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (8 children)

          Even if I have have to get a booster every 3-6 months, Im still lining up day 1 for that fuckin shot.

          [–]Styphin 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          Same! Give it to me ASAP! I’d rather have headaches and nausea for a few days than potentially be ventilated.

          [–]humanistbeing 8 points9 points  (6 children)

          Yep I've gotten over a bit of a shot phobia, and still hate them, but I'll a get a covid shot every month with flu-like symptoms as a reaction if that's the only option.

          [–]solar777 15 points16 points  (25 children)

          Is this result truly sufficient to call it "safe?" I don't know much about vaccine science, but I'm always nervous about rare complications popping up down the line in rushed vaccines (i.e. guillian-barre syndrome from the swine flu vaccine in the 70s).

          [–]mdthegreat 46 points47 points  (15 children)

          This vaccine has had a lot more study time than it would appear. It's based on a MERS vaccine that was in development and made it to Phase II trials, but then MERS died out so they halted further study on it. They've been pumping money, energy, and smarts onto this since January and are already producing doses in anticipation of a green light next month. The UK is slated to begin receiving doses in September.

          [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (10 children)

          The UK is slated to begin receiving doses in September.

          Wait, actual vaccination will start in September? That's bloody good news!

          [–]mdthegreat 14 points15 points  (9 children)

          If certain conditions are met. I believe I read ~30m doses available in September, and UK get them first. You are correct though, it is excellent news.

          [–]DarrenGrey 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          Where are you getting the September info from?

          [–]mdthegreat 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          Here

          Here

          Here

          Here

          There are more, even Fox News reported this back in May. The current progress and timeline still places doses available by/in September, with more rolling out over the following weeks and months. They are currently producing doses in anticipation.

          [–]DarrenGrey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Thanks!

          [–]gruey 4 points5 points  (1 child)

          They are doing a 500k person trial next to increase the confidence level of the safety.

          [–]RollingThunder_CO 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          And to test effectiveness

          [–]theganglyone 3 points4 points  (6 children)

          All these vaccines use a small component of the virus to elicit immunity. If the vaccine increases the chance of developing an autoimmune disorder, it's very likely that actual infection with the virus would also do so to a much greater degree.

          I wouldn't use a vaccine if the risk of infection were miniscule but in this case, I am really looking forward to it.

          [–]Styphin 10 points11 points  (1 child)

          The mRNA vaccine Moderna is making actually doesn’t use inactive pathogens, so it might even be safer than this Oxford one. Either way, it sounds like someone will come up with a well-tolerated vaccine. Covid sucks, but I’m glad medical science has advanced to where it is today. Imagine if we had this virus even just 10 or 20 years ago.

          [–]Fuckyousantorum 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Tcells production means it should last years. Fingers crossed.

          [–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (6 children)

          In the small print it admits that the vaccine has a small chance to turn people into ravenous zombie hordes. With autism.

          [–]Red-eleven 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          So you’re saying there’s a chance?

          [–]Purdaddy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Always the autism that gets you.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Don't threaten me with a good time.

          [–]attaboy000 32 points33 points  (3 children)

          5G nano-bots built by Bill Gates! They're coming after you!! 😂

          [–]Duffman66CMU 90 points91 points  (22 children)

          The downer here is that a large number of people in the USA still won’t get it. Took our daughter in for her 3 year checkup last week, and the doc asked if there was a vaccine, would we give it to her. Obviously! Protect my child from lung-scarring, blood-clotting, life-altering virus, amirite?

          We were in the minority. He said 80% of parents he had asked said they would not vaccinate their kid against COVID.

          [–][deleted] 75 points76 points  (2 children)

          Those parents will change their tune when the kids won't be allowed back in school without it.

          [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

          If it's the majority then they will bow to the majority.

          [–]mdthegreat 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          Administration might, teachers won't (if they can).

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            [–]Rustytromboner1 20 points21 points  (1 child)

            I am all about vaccines but not sure I want my kids to be in the first group to get them.

            [–]wejigglinorrrr 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            I'm in the same boat. My wife and I just talked about this last night. Her and I will be first in line to get the vaccine, but want our kids to wait until more data comes out regarding this vaccine and children. We have a 2 year old and a 4 month old, and we'd be more willing to give the 2 year old the vaccine than the baby, but still want to wait and see.

            [–]icecream_specialist 14 points15 points  (0 children)

            Did they mean at all or initially? I'm certainly not in a rush to be the first to get the vaccine but I do want to get it the sooner the better as soon as I'm sure it doesn't turn you into a lizard person and installs Windows Vista in your brain

            [–]bobspadger 17 points18 points  (3 children)

            Please don’t take this personally, but what part of ‘murica are you from? And what the average number of toes on the kids there ?

            [–]spacembracers 22 points23 points  (1 child)

            How many RVs are in the Wal Mart parking lot at any given time?

            [–]d_haven 10 points11 points  (0 children)

            I like to use the tooth to tattoo ratio personally.

            [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            I remember when our daughter was a newborn and how pleasantly surprised her pediatrician was when we said we wanted to vaccinate her. Scary to think we are in the minority.

            [–]Catch_022 7 points8 points  (2 children)

            It will take a long time to get this produced in sufficient quantities and distributed around the world.

            Don't know where you are, but in Africa I have a feeling we are going to be at the bottom of the priority list :(

            [–]coredweller1785 8 points9 points  (1 child)

            I see a lot of good comments below but wanted to call out the long term side effects we dont know yet.

            Typically vaccines and other medicines that millions will be exposed to they wait long periods of time to verify there are no long term side effects.

            I haven't looked close enough at the study but not sure how you verify that without time.

            I'm a big vaccine supporter but without long term effects data it even makes me slightly apprehensive to take it. But very excited at all possibilities at this point.

            [–]cakeycakeycake 13 points14 points  (0 children)

            Its actually all pretty positive, and the good news is this one seems set to be ready to distribute in September/ October. Even if its only SOMEWHAT effective that is an important bridge to normalcy even if its longer before we get a "perfect" vaccine.

            [–]ShambolicPaul 11 points12 points  (2 children)

            There's no evidence that it prevents infection yet. I know that sounds weird, it's a vaccine, that's it's job! But yeah, that's what is going to be tested now. 3 more months. Half a million Brits signed up to be guinea pigs (including me). Not sure how many they actually need.

            It should be noted that in Simeon's this vaccine did not prevent infection, but it did reduce/eliminate the worst symptoms of CV 19. Pneumonia etc.

            [–]azad_ninja 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            You’re going to be back to shaking hands and having close talkers in your life again real soon. #ThanksOxford

            [–]Lyrsin 24 points25 points  (3 children)

            It protects you by making you explode into a thousand tiny ducklings. Can't get covid if you're not the animal it inhabits, and also a collective hive mind inhabiting many bodies.

            [–]HiddenStoat 14 points15 points  (1 child)

            Are there any negative side effects though?

            [–]Pixelen 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            Who would win, a thousand tiny ducklings or one giant horse?

            [–]KookofaTook 15 points16 points  (11 children)

            The pharmaceutical company name is a reason to be down. It's highly likely that except for countries with truly universal health care, this vaccine will be completely beyond the fiscal means of the majority for a while unless governments subsidize the hell out of it.

            [–]PM_ME_YOUR_YAK[🍰] 26 points27 points  (4 children)

            I'd like to think it's in the best interest for every government to try and get rid of this thing asap

            [–]dorf5222 10 points11 points  (3 children)

            Just you wait this things gonna be gone right after the elections /s

            [–]PM_ME_YOUR_YAK[🍰] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

            I'm glad the general level of incompetence in my country is at least a step or two lower than whatever the hell is going on across the pond..

            [–]dorf5222 13 points14 points  (1 child)

            I’ve heard that rhetoric at least 5 times in the last two weeks. Last one was from a former coworker and I said don’t give me that bullshit, you really think the entire world would fake a pandemic to effect the US election. He realized that sounded pretty dumb. Although hey if people want to fake a pandemic to get trump out of office I’ll co-sign

            [–]FurryKnot 22 points23 points  (1 child)

            Afaik all of the deals they have signed with manufacturers are to manufacture and sell at cost. Unlike most of the other vaccines this has a strong non-profit backbone.

            They have 300 million for usa, 400 million for europe and a company in india is making a billion for lower income nations.

            [–]KookofaTook 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            I'd love to believe that this will be treated as a necessity everywhere and sold cheaply or provided felt to citizens, I'm just an old cynic and op asked for a reason to be skeptical. It's even in corporate interests to fix this quickly so the general consumer can get back to buying things more, but it's hard to put faith in the profit motive.

            [–]OprahFtwphrey 10 points11 points  (1 child)

            This is simply untrue. The vast majority of health insurances completely cover vaccines because preventative medicine has been shown time and time again to be less costly. While it all still comes down to money, insurance companies would rather foot the bill for their patients being vaccinated than having to fork over exponentially larger sums for a COVID-related stay in the ICU

            [–]b4k4ni 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Basically, this is the first result. Nothing "long" term. It's a promising first step. From this, I will still need months to finish the vaccine, let alone deploy it world wide.

            [–]whenisme 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            It's good news. We know that the vaccine causes an immune response which is great, but we don't actually know for sure that this will protect you from getting unwell with the virus later. And the current plan for testing this is the very simple idea of giving it to lots of people (and some others a placebo) and seeing how many if any end up getting it. This will take months.

            There is hope that we can do more effective challenge trials though, which are ethically complicated, but much more likely to produce results in a matter of weeks, as it involves vaccinating and then deliberately infecting them to see what happens.

            [–]thesimplerobot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            At the moment it's not 100% guaranteed, bit it's about as close as anyone's got so far. Oh, and if your not in the UK it probably won't be free. Other than that it's good news

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              [–]Squeegepooge 109 points110 points  (9 children)

              Between them and Moderna I’m so excited for our vaccine prospects!

              [–]DiachronicShear 6 points7 points  (7 children)

              As a pharmacist, I'm praying to every god I can think of that whatever vaccine gets approved first is just a 1-shot series. The Moderna vaccine is a 2-shot series, given a month apart, and I'm trying not to think about what'll happen if that's the one we get in the US. It'll be utter chaos and lots of people won't be able to get the vaccine properly.

              [–]Ohmannothankyou 4 points5 points  (1 child)

              Hi I’m not a pharmacist, would the two part shot be bad because we would run out of the second part or because people wouldn’t go and get the second part like they should? Is it two identical injections, or is there a difference?

              [–]happyspanners94 35 points36 points  (7 children)

              Pointless but interesting fact, my mum worked on this!

              [–]morchorchorman 14 points15 points  (0 children)

              That’s not pointless that’s actually really fucking cool!

              [–]jethroguardian 5 points6 points  (1 child)

              Thank you happyspanners94's mum!!

              [–]pooh_bear42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              That’s awesome!

              [–]Ohmannothankyou 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Thank your mum for us!

              [–]wrongron 232 points233 points  (39 children)

              Do we yet know if there will be a way to prioritize people who wear masks and don't claim the virus is a hoax?

              [–]hemoglobetrotter 187 points188 points  (27 children)

              Probably not but the same people who don't wear masks and think the virus is a hoax are usually the same people who are anti-vaccine.

              [–]RollingThunder_CO 119 points120 points  (22 children)

              Except once there’s a vaccine Trump will claim it’s all because of his brilliant leadership and it’s a beautiful vaccine and all his followers will forget they said it was a hoax and decide they need to get it 🙄

              [–]cakeycakeycake 87 points88 points  (8 children)

              I honestly hope Trump does this. I do. Trump could have slapped MAGA on a mask and everyone would have worn one. He's chosen this rhetoric to pander to the minority and I am really scared he will find a way to be against a vaccine. I don't care if he takes all the credit in the world if he gets stupid people to vaccinate themselves and their children and end this horrible waking nightmare we are living in.

              [–]RollingThunder_CO 15 points16 points  (1 child)

              I agree 100%, sorry if my original comment didn’t make that clear. And if he starts selling MAGA masks I would be thrilled. The more masks / vaccines the better!

              [–]PersonOfInternets 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Trump doesn't lead. He sniffs which way the wind is blowing with his goonsquad then gives them a shove in that direction.

              [–]SupertrampKobe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              I actually saw a trump mask at one of tables today at my serving job

              [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

              At this point, who cares. Just get it produced and get it out to as many people as possible as fast as possible. In the case of those people, you're saving them from themselves

              [–]wrongron 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              I'm good with expedient and efficient distribution to as many as possible, but I don't think I'm wrong, that in a fair and just world, preference would be given to those who were not jerks and did not endanger the lives of others through willful ignorance. Not saying they would be the only ones to get it, but they would get it before those aforementioned idiots.

              [–]hemoglobetrotter 17 points18 points  (1 child)

              my mistake. I forgot to factor in the cognitive dissonance surrounding that group.

              [–]RollingThunder_CO 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              Haha it is easy to forget!

              [–]mamakomodo 6 points7 points  (3 children)

              this. They probably don't even have to manufacture as many doses as they think they do. All the discussions surrounding the covid-19 vaccine I've seen have been overwhelmingly anti-vax. More for us I guess 🤷‍♀️

              [–]hemoglobetrotter 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              Which is good in a way but at the same time a significant amount of people won't be able to get the vaccine for legitimate health reasons and will remain at risk for covid because of the ignorance of others.

              [–]Checkers923 9 points10 points  (3 children)

              Shouldn’t it go the other way? I would rather see the people most likely to spread get vaccinated first so we can get through this faster.

              [–]wrongron 5 points6 points  (2 children)

              No. I'd rather see people most likely to respect life, get to live.

              [–]faithfoliage 133 points134 points  (8 children)

              Don’t tell this to r/coronavirus

              They’ll find something negative.

              [–]404_life_notfound 49 points50 points  (0 children)

              Not from what I've seen. The hype seems real

              [–]Icouldberight 31 points32 points  (0 children)

              They do a great job finding a bad spin around here too.

              [–]hamodi360 57 points58 points  (13 children)

              The Anti-Vaxxers were surprisingly quiet this whole pandemic, but they’ll soon come out of hibernation and then it’ll become politicized and the people will refuse to take it. Amazing progress by Oxford but all I see are Karen’s posting how this will give you 5G and is just Big Brother poising us. WE ARE NO LONGER ON TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN BECAUSE OF DUMB FUCKS LIKE THEM!

              [–]quiettryit 22 points23 points  (8 children)

              Ran into a lady who told me they are using it to give me Bill Gates' chip...

              [–]Rickles360 10 points11 points  (3 children)

              Sweet. Those chips aren't cheap you know.

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                [–]PacifistaPX-0 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                Surprisingly quiet? Lol not at all they just all turned into anti-maskers/5G conspiracy theorists.

                [–]Tropical_Jesus 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                You know, my aunt and uncle were smart people when I was growing up. They were down to earth, reasonable, nice, and open minded. This isn’t just rose colored glasses. I know they were.

                They’ve spent the last 20 years since, living in a rural area of central Florida (my uncle likes to hunt and they moved there so he could have land). They have become so ignorant, closed minded, and bigoted in their old age. They sit in front of Fox News all day. I got a random text out of the blue the other day, from my aunt, that read word for word “Btw you better not be planning on voting for a dirty Democrat, because then Antifa will take over the country and we’ll have anarchy. Just saying...” Totally unprompted. Like WTF?

                My uncle went with his friend to get a haircut this week and my aunt said of course the salon required you to wear a mask. He refused and went out and sat in the car. His friend even said “Hey, here’s an extra mask, it’s brand new and clean, you can have it.” Nope. My uncle still refused. He sat in the car and pouted for 30 minutes while he waited for his friend to finish, and refused to get his hair cut.

                It’s so sad to see what they’ve become. They’re surrounded by the same 5-6 people every single day, and have completely shrunk/enclosed their world. Their only source of info is Fox News, and the only people they believe are each other. They won’t even give me or my mother time of day.

                [–]Indiana-Cook 17 points18 points  (6 children)

                Finally, some good fucking news!

                [–]GetYourJeansOn 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                "The researchers are calling their experimental vaccine ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (AZD1222)."

                Fucking Chad coming to the rescue

                [–]Assdolf_Shitler 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (AZD1222) vs. virgin covid-19

                [–]DonnyMox 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                Fist-pumps the air

                [–]Levicorpyutani 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                Good lord is there any point to this Subreddit? It seems no one wants to believe there's anything good news in the world. No matter what story it is the thread is always filled with negativity.

                [–]dclogik 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                This is genuine good news, reported extensively on UK News channels today. The lead researchers are cautiously optimistic. AstraZenica are manufacturing and NHS purchased 100m doses at cost price.

                https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/20/oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-triggers-immune-response-trial-shows

                [–]Gene_freeman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Good

                [–]BAN_SOL_RING 36 points37 points  (9 children)

                The vaccine is literally the only thing that can keep America from a hard downward slide. If people continue to get sick and can’t pay bills into 2021, we’re fucked. They thought BLM protests were bad... just wait until people’s kids start going hungry or needing medicine they can’t afford (en masse).

                [–]PM_ME_FREE_GAMES 18 points19 points  (1 child)

                So if America keeps being America?

                [–]BAN_SOL_RING 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Yes but at least without the virus, people won't eventually be literally dying in the streets outside hospitals. They'll be dying in their homes due to preventable illnesses!

                [–]EthiczGradient 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                I know of a shitload astra Zeneca researchers in Sweden also working on it but they don't call it the Uppsala vaccine

                [–]hellosuzan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Hell yea! Put that shit in my breakfast cereal!

                [–]derpnowinski 8 points9 points  (2 children)

                Buh-buh-but universities are indoctrinating young adults with liberal values! /s

                [–]Swimmergym 13 points14 points  (18 children)

                So realistically, if this works, how long until the general public has access? I’d love to get my hopes up but if a vaccine has positive results but still has a 2 year wait time then it’s hard to feel positive.

                [–]R-3-D[S] 24 points25 points  (10 children)

                Current timeline for the UK would have this rolled out in October. IF it is effective though. No idea if timeline is the same for USA.

                [–]UnprovenMortality 5 points6 points  (6 children)

                Each of these most promising vaccines are on fast track and governments are shoveling money at them to commercially manufacture at risk (i.e. if the trial fails they dump millions of dollars worth of product). So assuming that scale up and commercial release testing is performed simultaneously as the trial, I would say bare minimum 3 months from start of phase 3 trial to being able to submit BLA. Then 30 days minimum for review, pre-approval inspection, and shipping product. So extremely accelerated timeline puts it at November if they start phase 3 today.

                [–]RollingThunder_CO 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                This one is already in phase 3.

                [–]TacobellSauce1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                I thought the point was the fucking vaccine

                [–]mlnombre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Nice

                [–]IMGAMMO 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Finally I hope this vaccine wont let COVID fck the rest of 2020 and hopefully not reach 2021.

                Also Happy Cake Day to me on reddit, also to other redditors having Happy Cake Day now lol.

                [–]cain62 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                I wanted to work with AstraZeneca so bad. I applied and they denied me.

                [–]Mydogsdad 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                This. This is the only way my industry will recover (live entertainment).

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Basically they all work...probably. we just have to make sure they don’t make our eyes fall out or turn us into zombies

                [–]wakkiwitch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Does anyone know how I can be a part of those trials? I'm willing to deal with whatever bad may happen to me it if means we're one step closer to a vaccine.

                Edit: Found a site you can sign up at.

                [–]SeekingMyEnd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I can't wait to get my vaccine when it is available.

                [–]justdoitnextweek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                If I had a pussy it’d be moist af right now