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[–][deleted] 806 points807 points  (67 children)

They run skeleton crews at Walgreens anyways, people run a department then stock or cashier, managers now do the jobs of stockers as well as every other department. A Walgreens might have one dedicated stocker, and they’re probably part time and mainly weekends.

[–]Karsa69420 88 points89 points  (7 children)

Worked there for 3 months and quit. Was barely trained and given a shift lead role. Gave my two weeks and was fired on the spot.

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

You cant fire me, I quit!

Wait thats not right.

[–]dildo_gaggins_ 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Worked at Walgreens and gave a letter notice that I was quitting so they couldn't pull that shit on me.

[–]OblivionGuardsman 118 points119 points  (11 children)

My Walgeens has pharmacy techs stocking regularly. And then no one in the pharmacy so the line is always 20 minutes long.

[–]EaseofUse 67 points68 points  (6 children)

Hah I started as a cashier then got put in the pharmacy as a scab so they could take shifts away from the pharmacy techs.

That place makes GameStop look good.

[–]Owls_Onto_You 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Damn. This news had me considering applying to Walgreens for some extra income. But having worked at a Game Stop pre-pandemic . . . That's going to be a no from me, dawg.

Thanks for the anti-recommendation, stranger!

[–]Irregular475 285 points286 points  (5 children)

Preach brother. I worked at Walgreens for a month during the initial months of the pandemic and never again will I work for such a terrible place.

All retail stores can go to hell imo.

[–]XXCRSTNXX 37 points38 points  (4 children)

Fucking dollar General was hell, had you running around like a mad man, I swear my boss scheduled me every afternoon for two weeks and when I saw my next two weeks it was the same, fucking quit that place immediately, not worth it.

[–]monasential 22 points23 points  (3 children)

I worked there for a month before I had had enough. How do they expect you to run the cash register and stock the back of the store at the same time??

[–]SpacemanLudo 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Easy, have you tried being in 2 places at once?

[–]-snipps- 22 points23 points  (9 children)

So I'm a SFL. The biggest issue with this other than it taking upto next year is whether or not WAGs will also raise existing employees based on the rate they started at before the $15 min.

For example, $11.50 was the original starting pay for SFL. It was raised to $12.50 a few years later, but at the time those already making more than $12.50 and had started at the $11.50 rate did not see a corresponding increase in pay and had to individually ask for the raise.

As it stands I'm near the current Cap on SFL pay and when this is available I expect to be raised to the new Cap. If not, looks like in updating my resume.

[–]SenatorGentlemen 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I was a CSA (or whatever the hell they call cashiers these days) there while I was in college about a decade ago. It was my first job, and I remember working hard that first year, and ended up with a year-end review that consisted of a few 4's. Shortly after that they announced the new pay structure, and told me that my raise for that year with a stellar review would be to the new minimum that they had for the position (so from $7.75 to $8). I still needed a job, and they were willing to be very flexible with my school schedule, so I didn't quit, but I definitely started doing the absolute bare fucking minimum from that day forward until I graduated and got my first real Big Boy job.

Also, I'm surprised they can get anyone to be a shift lead, as that is hands down the worst position in the entire company. You get payed fuck all to deal with bullshit from customers, your managers, and your subordinates, all while likely being the only manager on duty and having to deal with all of those responsibilities. I felt so bad for all the assistant managers I worked with that got demoted to that when they introduced it.

[–]mikezulu90 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Currently an sfl. Largely all those assistant managers left with a restructuring so there's no assistant managers anymore. There is also a manager drought like the tech and pharmacist drought. Many assistant managers didn't want to move up to manager. So part of the restructuring is forcing people into an "will be a manager" position. It's like an assistant manager but if you take it you will be a manager.

[–]HappyAffirmative 23 points24 points  (10 children)

Can confirm. My mother's a pharmacist for Walgreens, and it's terrible. In my state, they're very short on pharmacists and technicians. There's half a dozen stores that are intermittently closing each week, because they can't get a pharmacist or techs to come in on any given day. In the last 2 weeks, my mom has worked a total of 114 hours, as she's been taking on some extra shifts to fill vacancies in stores out of town. She does get time and a half for the OT, which is nice money, but still.

[–]Yvgar 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Pharmacists in my state, with Walgreens, get time+$5 for OT (so around +8% instead of +50%). They had bumped that up to time+$20, but silently took that away shortly after.

[–]beeinabearcostume 953 points954 points  (210 children)

“About half of Walgreens' 190,000 employees already make at least $15 an hour and will not see their pay increased. The remaining half will see their pay boosted, the company said. The $15 increase, which applies to both full- and part-time workers, will be phased in and completed by November 2022.”

Half of the employees will see no pay increase, and those that do may not see it for 14 months, granted they are still living and still working at Walgreens by then.

[–]Danieboy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

!RemindMe 550 days

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Ah man, can't companies just, you know, be kind from time to time? You can't tell me that they don't have the money for it, may they just set the greed aside for awhile and let their employees enjoy their lives?

One change that I hope to see in my lifetime, employers actually caring about their employees and trying to make them as happy as possible, so that they want to work and not have the feeling they have to. Of course not abusing this and let them work extra shifts because that's the kind of hidden evil we wouldn't need on top of the current shit.

[–]Farrell-Mars 2205 points2206 points  (363 children)

Imagine a world so upside-down that it’s supposed to be a huge big thing that you can pull down $30k/yr with a FT job.

Oh wait, no need to imagine.

[–][deleted] 683 points684 points  (90 children)

That’s a big assumption that you’ll get a full-time job when they can just hire two people working part-time and save money.

[–]darkwingduck487 253 points254 points  (85 children)

That's what the Little Caesars franchise i worked for did when Obamacare came out. They got rid of full time positions and made us hire a bunch of people for part time work so they wouldn't qualify for health care

[–]TooMuchPowerful 108 points109 points  (19 children)

Never forget Papa Johns was willing to go to war over Obamacare so he would need to charge/pay an extra ~$0.10 a pizza to provide healthcare to his employees.

[–]PoolNoodleJedi 72 points73 points  (15 children)

Fuck Papa John’s they are the worst Pizza, fucking sugar ass pizza, with crust so bad they have to give you garlic oil to dip it in to make it edible. Pure trash.

[–]jahoney 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Yeah I’ve only had it once and am shocked anyone buys it. Even dominoes is better.

[–][deleted] 166 points167 points  (57 children)

We really need legislation stating that any business that goes through $X or more, gross, per quarter must have y% or greater of their employees be full time

[–]Altair05 419 points420 points  (38 children)

Or we could just pass some sort of universal-single payer healthcare system.

[–][deleted] 123 points124 points  (20 children)

I’m down for both.

[–]BernieEveryYear 36 points37 points  (15 children)

I say both, too. Is there enough of us now? What’s our next move?

[–]FunnyScreenName 11 points12 points  (7 children)

I agree, as well. There must be dozens of us. Now what?

[–]DJ_Vault_Boy 15 points16 points  (1 child)

sounds a bit communist, why should my taxes go to helping everyone instead of the US military.

[–]HaveAWillieNiceDay 29 points30 points  (0 children)

it's almost like healthcare shouldn't be tied to labor

[–]jomontage 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What a concept. You should run for office.

[–]bluntsandbears 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Just need to make all companies provide medical and dental care for all employees.

I’m in Canada, a place with “free” healthcare but if you don’t have a job that covers dental and prescription medications you have to go without more often than not because any job that pays enough to pay for things and your bills comes with those benefits.

[–]HereForTheEdge 22 points23 points  (4 children)

Or just some universal basis healthcare for all citizens..

Maybe like Australian..

[–]halzen 28 points29 points  (2 children)

And a lot of other countries because single-payer systems are cheaper than what we’re doing. Single-payer healthcare is fiscally conservative.

[–]_____l 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Yep, keep your "lesser" workers constantly on the edge but not quite at full-time so you don't have to give them benefits. This is how folks end up working 2 ~ 3 jobs yet having barely anything to show for it.

[–]Delta-9- 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Been trying to explain this a lot lately, but apparently just having a nominal pay rate above minimum wage is more than any of us plebs deserves whether it's enough to live on or not. We're supposed to just "take some personal responsibility and stop blaming the world" for the fact that nearly every employer that's not trying to put you in an office where you have to wear professional clothes and do stuff is trying to pay you as little as they legally can while getting the most work out of you.

Yep. It's our own fault that businesses exploit every loophole they can. The solution is, of course, to just gEt A bEtTeR jOb and WoRk oN yOuRsElF.

[–]DetroitChemist 216 points217 points  (88 children)

Seriously. It's fucking nothing.

[–]RapNVideoGames 133 points134 points  (31 children)

I could survive with it if rent wasn’t so fucking high. How are we so submissive with most of our monthly income goes to rent.

[–]lostincbus 87 points88 points  (26 children)

How can you get together and have group protests / strikes when nobody can afford a few days off work?

[–]GozerDGozerian 50 points51 points  (17 children)

“Sorry guys I can’t strike with you I have a shift that morning.”

[–]lostincbus 60 points61 points  (16 children)

"Sorry guys, these poverty wages make it so that a few days off work means I can't eat. If I don't eat I will die which is how this system perpetuates itself."

[–]RapNVideoGames 7 points8 points  (1 child)

That’s why the NAACP used college aged kids at sit ins, they had less to lose with going to jail.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_HOODIES 84 points85 points  (25 children)

It really isn’t. I work as a technical director for a news station… during this past year, we still had to come into work during the pandemic (which I’m glad I was able to have a job through it but hold on), we’re essential to getting the shows on the air and they COULD NOT happen without us, we learned a new system they had installed during the pandemic, we put the shows on during an election year and that’s only a small part of all we had to do during this crazy time. I won’t even go into the extra stuff we had to do while the majority of the others were either laid off or home safe.

My raise… 1.75%, .24 cents. I still don’t make $15 an hour.

[–]HeDoesntAfraid 18 points19 points  (0 children)

And with all the inflation, you just got a demotion

[–]twoquarters 12 points13 points  (1 child)

People have no idea how bad it is in media. Twenty years ago staffs were a lot larger and did less with liveable wages.

Now newsrooms can't keep anyone and careers are destroyed right out of the gate.

Yes your local TV station's reporting sucks. Yes your newspaper/web site has no clue what is going on and is filled with puff pieces and wire. THESE PEOPLE MAKE NOTHING and there are no mentoring systems left.

[–]saxGirl69 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Know your worth. Gtfo of there you can literally work at McDonald’s and make 18 an hour.

[–]PoolNoodleJedi 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Wait what??? You’re a TD at a news station and you only make $15 an hour? I made more than that running a camera in the simulcast booth at a harness race track when I was in High School.

That is such an important job how do they pay so little?

[–]Rpolifucks 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Technical director for under 30k? Do you live in the boonies? Even in the absolute middle of nowhere, that should be a 50k job. In a real city, I'd expect 70-80k, if not 100+.

You should definitely be shopping around for something new. I'd be surprised if you couldn't double your pay pretty easily.

[–]dumptrump3 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Our local Burger King is hiring. Their sign says 17.00/hr to start. That ChickKing is pretty good….

[–]somedude456 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Bro, that sucks. It's stories like this that make me so thankful for my job, despite people look down at it.

[–]mrkstu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Go work for some influencer online, I'm sure your skill set will match up.

[–]wienercat 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Yep... When the average median household is 68k, 16.30 per person in a 2 income household is median income.

Let that sink in a bit.

If minimum wage was suddenly pushed to $15, we would have a ton of people who suddenly were making near minimum wage... And that would piss a lot of folks off if their pay wasn't also increased.

[–]slickyslickslick 10 points11 points  (5 children)

The sad part is that $15 an hour is actually a decent wage... for someone living with their parents or having roommates. It all goes hand in hand with unaffordable housing prices and such.

The American Dream of having a big house with a giant lawn is unattainable for everyone. It's unsustainable both economically and environmentally. That's why it's now being reframed as an actual dream where people can work towards some blurry goal such as "success".

[–]I_Shah 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is absolutely attainable if you have a spouse

[–]_radass 7 points8 points  (0 children)

People are just assholes. They think a low skilled job should mean low pay even if it's full time. It's disgusting how little people consider others.

[–]fungobat 26 points27 points  (29 children)

And that's $30k/yr BEFORE taxes and shit. So take home pay might actually be $23k/yr?

[–]Machuka420 30 points31 points  (24 children)

$30k/yr you will likely pay $0-$2k in income tax.

[–]Burnt_and_Blistered 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Net pay for $30k/year (which optimistically assumes full-time hours usually withheld to avoid providing benefits) is around $24k. Forget savings and house down payment. In my city, (group) child care averages $200/week. That leaves $1200 for rent, insurance, utilities, transportation, food. Those arguing that it’s “entitled” to expect a liveable minimum wage because back in their walk-uphill-barefoot-in-snow day, you could pay rent AND tuition on part time wages and damn it, you should be grateful minimum wage hasn’t been adjusted in a dozen years are completely out of touch with reality. That happens, I’ve discovered, as affluence increases.

Edit: math is hard; I overestimated the amount left after child care.

[–]CBate 10 points11 points  (6 children)

Laughs in FICA

[–]CommentsOnOccasion 13 points14 points  (1 child)

If you’re making $30,000 a year and you choose the standard deduction, your taxable income is $17,450

Which when taxed at the federal level comes out to $1900 for the year

FICA being 7.65% means it’s another total $2295 annual cost

So your annual federal tax burden at $30000 is roughly $4200 for the year, or an effective 14% (including FICA)

[–]Necro1983 751 points752 points  (119 children)

then they will offer you 20 hours a week.

[–]tomakeyan 48 points49 points  (0 children)

I was getting that at Walgreens but for $8.50 an hour!

[–]Fun-Pomegranate-2323 310 points311 points  (110 children)

Two jobs at 20 hours a week, $15 per hour is a lot better than one 40 hours a week at minimum wage.

In fact, 20 hours a week at $15 per hour is more than 40 hours a week at federal minimum wage.

[–]jon8282 418 points419 points  (108 children)

Not really because then you will be working full time without full time benefits while trying to manage two opposing schedules

[–]kairi79 213 points214 points  (53 children)

You say that like a lot of jobs actually give benefits. They don't.

[–]Count_istvan_teleky 93 points94 points  (19 children)

And there's the problem.

Or at least a problem until we have Medicare for All.

[–]gospdrcr000 7 points8 points  (2 children)

When I was working part time at ups they offered benefits, I managed a few people that only had the job so they could take home benefits for their family. At the same time your working your ass off moving boxes, but the upside is the shifts are short and they pay overtime for part timers (it was rare, but didn't not happen)

[–]Sh00terMcGavn 8 points9 points  (1 child)

UPS is union. They pay for college and benefits are good. You get day 1 benefits bc the job is grueling and they need young blood. But thats what sets UPS apart

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Walgreens does. I’m a pharmacist in the hospital but tons of friends at Walgreens. Lots of our techs come from Walgreens. They absolutely do have insurance. And 401K match.

[–]jon8282 16 points17 points  (11 children)

I’m pretty sure all these national chains moving to $15 all offer benefits to their full time staff.

[–]SpiderTechnitian 16 points17 points  (0 children)

None of the employees besides store level managers are "full time staff", so none get benefits. Like a Target store for instance has like 5 full time employees, the head of store/logistics/HR/and like one other position

[–]AWWWYEAHHHH 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Full time staff = managers. Everyone else, good luck!

[–]Ping-Crimson 26 points27 points  (7 children)

Middling health insurance aaaaaand 1 weeks vacation per year (no stacking between years) 3 sick days flat.

[–]joe579003 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Hey, I got a 401(k) too!

[–]WhoDoIThinkIAm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's better than medical bills being entirely out of pocket and no weeks of paid time off.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

You guys are getting benefits? And tons of people already juggle two schedules with crap pay.

[–]Fun-Pomegranate-2323 56 points57 points  (33 children)

You know, I thought about it. Places that pay minimum wage, tend not to have full 40 hour work weeks regardless. Making minimum wage, you still have to pay into benefits unless you are talking about high deductible, high co-pay health plans. People making minimum wage can often not afford to buy in or buy into a quality benefit package. I'd say my statement is still solid.

[–]like_a_wet_dog 50 points51 points  (28 children)

I had to get an emergency job in a new town, min. wage offer was all I got. My health insurance, had I stayed, would have been literally 85% of my pay. So I guess everyone is married, and their spouse has insurance?

It's impossible. People just don't get it. They think everyone is 16, living at home, drinking 5$ lattes...because that's them or their spoiled family.

[–]thinkmatt 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Starbucks actually gives benefits for 20hrs minimum. Maybe it will catch on

[–]Beor_The_Old 3 points4 points  (8 children)

Not only do minimum wage jobs not give workers enough hours to qualify for benefits but even working at one place can be terrible for scheduling since they rarely give time off

[–]drawkbox 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It is diversification though, not reliant on one place.

Plus, benefits at that level suck. Benefits in general are bullshit, better to get your own. Total compensation is supposedly 35% of your pay at most places. No thanks, give me 100% real wages, go get your own benefits.

Tying benefits to a job, especially healthcare, is a broken system and makes pricing fixed and incentive all wacked towards employers over the consumers that buy the plans. It is also harder to start a business, go sole proprietor and more with healthcare bound to a job. Your company doesn't give a shit about you, why are you using them to manage your most personal/survival healthcare, people don't bind their auto insurance or home insurance or life insurance to work, why healthcare? It is so asinine.

Just pay people more, benefits are not really that any more and create lots of fixed/false markets and give employers more control.

[–]llDurbinll 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Not to mention also if you pick up two part time jobs paying $15 then you'll make "too much" for free or reduced health insurance through the state so most of what you make at the second job will be going towards health insurance.

In 2019 I was close to making too much while only making $11/hr at 30 hrs a week. When I changed jobs to one making $15/hr full time, I called my insurance to see if I could still stay on it until my coverage kicked in after 90 days and to see if I could pay a monthly fee to keep it. They said I made too much and would have to cancel the policy.

I signed up for new insurance through healthcare.gov and my monthly premium was almost $400 a month and that was just the mid-tier plan. It had a $5k deductible and barely covered any of the cost. Thankfully I didn't have to use it for anything other than meds before my jobs insurance kicked in.

[–]DorisCrockford 41 points42 points  (5 children)

I called Walgreens to refill a prescription today, and along with the usual recorded message about hours, there was a plea for people to apply to work there.

[–]AllOfTheDerp 64 points65 points  (23 children)

These motherfuckers could have gone to 15 the whole fucking time and everyone fucking knows it. I saw a sign at my local mcdonald's yesterday that said "hiring ages 15 and up" but I'll bet they're still paying $12/hr. Fucking scum.

[–]Ok-Reporter-4600 133 points134 points  (11 children)

A U.S. Department of Labor survey estimated that 3.6 million people quit their job in June. The "Great Resignation" — as the phenomenon has been dubbed — is leaving millions of jobs unfilled and hiring managers scrambling to find workers.

What's happening, in my opinion, is that because of Covid more jobs have accepted remote workers, and that has - from a local point of view - increased competition. Maybe nationwide there were 100 jobs per worker before Covid and since Covid there are still 100 jobs per worker, but for some workers before there were 5 jobs within driving distance and now there are 5 jobs within driving distance and also let's say 40% of those 100 jobs nationwide which now accept remote workers, meaning they have 40+5 jobs to choose from instead of 5.

So increased job opportunities mean workers can demand more, which means employers have to pay more to compete for the talent available.

Of course, the flip is also true. Remote jobs have people from all over they can hire instead of just the people willing to relocate or already in the area. So it should all balance out.

Maybe people have just decided working their ass off 60 hours a week (30+30 both part time so no benefits) with no vacation or sick days while you let TikTok and ipads raise your children just to die broke after eventually getting cancer and not having healthcare is no way to live the only life you have. Lots of people got a chance to reflect during this pandemic and that kind of shit you'd only say once or twice a year over a campfire or after 3 pitchers is now an every day thought for many people.

[–]phoncible 28 points29 points  (7 children)

This doesn't explain Walgreens jobs, or any kind of cash register job. Can't do those remote.

I believe those can be explained by the extensions on various government programs i.e. unemployment and the fact that it was paying better than min wage.

[–]Head_Asparagus_7703 19 points20 points  (0 children)

No but there could be call center jobs, simple data entry jobs, etc that they could potentially be hired for.

[–]Ok-Reporter-4600 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Let's say some of the people who work at Walgreens have skills such that they can take remote work. Or even some of the people who work somewhere have skills such that they can take remote work. So they do and leave. Now there is a job and someone who works at Walgreens quits to take their job.

Maybe it's unemployment, but aren't the covid-bumped benefits limited and temporary, and already done with in many states that are still seeing this trend in employment? I'd have expected it to reverse by now if it was just unemployment. I think it's that, but also remote work, and also people retiring early, and also people not going back to work because daycare + work isn't actually better than no work but no daycare for some people.

[–]JasonMaloney101 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Respectfully, you both bring up good points, but what you're both missing is that millions of workers took an early retirement during the pandemic. People have been moving up to fill those positions, meaning more lower end positions are going unfilled.

https://feeds.aarp.org/work/working-at-50-plus/info-2021/pandemic-workers-early-retirement.html?_amp=true

[–]TheBurbs666 46 points47 points  (4 children)

$15 an hour here. It’s a little more comfy but I’m still broke most of the time

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

They’re just doing the new bare minimum. They don’t give a fuck about their workers. They just realized it costs them more to pay them less overall. This isn’t a celebratory moment.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Anything less is disgusting imho

[–]kry1212 407 points408 points  (278 children)

Gee, finally in 2021 they're all coming on board with what people were asking for in 2010.

The hourly necessary just to satisfy the cost of living most places is beyond $15/hr these days.

Since when does the American Dream include just being able to rent a room? What happened to homeownership for everyone?

[–][deleted] 135 points136 points  (99 children)

The American dream was a lie to make people work hard to make the rich even richer. Immigrants were and are being lured into America for the promise of a better life but they always end up toiling away in a dead end job for shit pay and shit benefits like a modern day slave.

So picture the Fyre Festival as a country but instead of rich people falling for the trap the people falling for it are desperate migrants.

[–]DrDoom_ 60 points61 points  (47 children)

Hi. I’m an immigrant. Also a dentist with my own business now. I appreciate the American dream very much.

[–]Atxlvr 34 points35 points  (4 children)

this is a great anecdote, but most immigrants make considerably less than native born, and it has been declining steadily for the past 50 years..

Indeed, a decline in immigrant entry earnings has occurred (Table 2). Male immigrants aged 25–54 in the 1965–1970, 1975–1980, and 1985–1990 entry cohorts earned a declining proportion of the median earnings of native men aged 25–54: In 1969, immigrant men who entered the United States in 1965–1970 earned 65 percent of native men's earnings; in 1989, male immigrants who entered the United States in 1985–1990 earned only 41 percent of their U.S. male counterparts.

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v68n1/68n1p31.html

[–]DorisCrockford 51 points52 points  (30 children)

It would be nice if janitors, farmworkers, and daycare workers could make enough to live on, though. We can't all be dentists. Not that you were saying that, I just wanted to point out that everyone who works hard should be paid a living wage.

[–]ndu867 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Child of immigrants, my parents came here when my mom was pregnant with me. We were so poor I slept in a walk-in closet as a kid, wore my sisters jeans to school (I’m a guy), and were on food stamps at one point. Got a CPA and masters, have a good life now. That’s way more economic mobility than a huge majority of the rest of the world.

You have very extreme perceptions/assumptions about the American dream, but it doesn’t mean the same thing to everyone-you just have a very cynical perspective on it.

[–]Haney0713 63 points64 points  (7 children)

Welp, glad I took a Shift Leader position with the company back in may for $15.50... *face palm*

Edit: After seeing numerous reponses from former Walgreens employees. Definitely leaning towards finding other work next year. I'm only staying around because the company is offering paid paternal time off, and my second child is due in November.

[–]sleeprust 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I would hope they would adjust your pay accordingly but I wouldn’t bet on it

[–]GhostofSancho 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I worked at Walgreens back when they first introduced the Shift Leader position. In the district I worked in, assistant managers made $15/hr, so they eliminated about 80% of the assistant manager positions and replaced them with Shift Leader positions that paid a little over $11/hr. My store went from about 6 permanent assistant managers and 2 floating assistant managers to 2 assistant managers and 5 or 6 shift leaders. 95% of the same responsibilities for about 75% of the pay. The overnight shifts didn't even get managers, the shift leader had to deal with all the sketchiest people by themselves.

[–]cawperpop 8 points9 points  (1 child)

you’ll probably get a proportionate raise. and by proportional I mean a raise based on an arbitrary formula that someone at corporate made up that doesn’t make any sense.

[–]llDurbinll 46 points47 points  (9 children)

"About half of Walgreens' 190,000 employees already make at least $15 an hour and will not see their pay increased."

And you're probably gonna lose some of them cause who wouldn't be pissed that they worked there 5 years to get $15/hr and now brand new employees are making the same as them.

[–]williemac79 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Their prices have always supported that wage.

[–]an_illiterate_ox 30 points31 points  (16 children)

The bar needs to be set way higher by now. Companies are going to think $15/hr is some massive achievement when it is still barely scraping by. People need to start talking $20/hr.

[–]ChaosWolf1982 23 points24 points  (8 children)

if Reagan hadn't decoupled the minimum wage increase rate from inflation, it would be about $25/hr. now.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (3 children)

It's really remarkable how many of the massive, society-crushing problems the Reagan administration is responsible for.

[–]msnmck 59 points60 points  (38 children)

My employer advertises "competitive pay," which they claim is $10 an hour.

$10 an hour part time with a hard cap of 29 hours per week. You literally cannot take home more than $250 per week. My boss's daughter just got hired at Sam's Club where their starting wage is $16 an hour. And my company had the nerve to ask me if I know why our turnover is so high. It was at that moment that I pledged to stop giving useful feedback to this circus. They clearly don't listen.

Oh btw I make less than $12 an hour in a supervisor position after almost 14 years of working there.

[–]DontMicrowaveCats 57 points58 points  (8 children)

Dude, Gtfo of that place. I made $10/hr in my after school high school job…16 years ago. There are places all over the country chomping at the bit for experienced managers/supervisors. You could be pulling in $30/hr+ easily, if not more.

Places are desperate for workers right now. It’s probably the best time you’ll ever have in the near future to find new employment without breaking a sweat. There is 0 reason to stay loyal for $12/hr

[–]dravas 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I heard sams club is starting at $16 in your area

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Why would you spend 14 years working near minimum wage? At this point you can work in fast food or another service industry job and make more.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Why? I’m not one to tell you how to live but why tf would you stay there (for that long)? Surely there has to be ANY option that is better than that.

You don’t have to share, but I am curious.

[–]bigrobotdinosaur 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I made $10 an hour working at Circuit City in 2003. I was 17.

[–]mm126442 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You should work at sams club

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Oh my god, get out.

Jos A Bank and men’s wearehouse are begging for more managers, if you have that many years of supervisory you could name a reasonable pay and they’d almost certainly accept it.

Not to mention a lot of Chick Fil A’s start out at like $14 an hour.

Hell, my first job ever was a Lowe’s temp and I started at 11.23 and hour with 0 work experience, and was offered $15 an hour to be a head cashier. If you have that much experience you could easily ask that much there as well.

[–]MooseMan69er 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hate to tell you this man but if you’re really making that much after 14 years it’s because you are choosing to.

Updating a resume isn’t hard. Just look up some templates online and make yourself sound the best that you can. Or pay one of those services $40 to update it for you. It is genuinely difficult to find a job on indeed or such for less than 12 an hour. And don’t tell people how much you’re making now or they’ll figure you’re ok with making shit and lowball you

[–]PUNCH-THE-SUN 12 points13 points  (3 children)

As an Australian, this still sounds so tragic. I'm a reasonably unskilled worker, and still am paid $30ph weekdays, $36ph Saturdays and $42ph Sundays. $15ph is what we pay children who work at Macca's.

[–]darthcaedusiiii 5 points6 points  (0 children)

But you gotta fight emus on the way to work.

[–]DuntadaMan 30 points31 points  (2 children)

Remember, they could have afforded this at any time. Anything else they claimed was bullshit they thought you would buy to allow them to pay less.

[–]Low_Soul_Coal 42 points43 points  (7 children)

Well when you can’t get politicians to do what you pay them way too much for, you just gotta do it yourself!

[–]gravitonium 20 points21 points  (0 children)

After 4.5 years of working for Walgreens, all I can say is that I am so much less stressed out! I worked my way up starting as a cashier, then photo department, pharmacy assistant, pharmacy technician and then a senior pharmacy technician. Now I work at a hospital and I actually love my job.

[–]serenityfive 9 points10 points  (3 children)

I’m glad minimum wage jobs are becoming more liveable, but it’s still appalling that jobs like CNAs still make $13-$17. Every hourly job should be getting an increase.

[–]oscpmentor-com 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Today I learned my burger flipping friend makes more than most CNAs

[–]StanFitch 3 points4 points  (0 children)

All of us should be making more than that…

I think your frustration (if it is frustration) is targeted at the wrong people.

[–]NightShadow12 19 points20 points  (2 children)

My wife has been there for 10 years and makes $15.23 as a shift lead. You’re telling me that new hires will essentially make the same as her? That’s fucked up. Companies need to start raising everyone when raising their minimum.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

With 10 years of experience and managerial experience as a shift lead your wife should really think about getting a new job with better pay.

"Loyalty" just makes you a sucker in the modern labor marketplace.

[–]anonymousforever 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep. They should reset the whole wage scale for new hires, 1-3 yrs w Co, then 4-6, 7-10, etc. Wages should be rescaled for the whole pay structure based on experience/longevity, else the experienced people job hop to get that pay raise.

That's how companies lose trained workers. Costs more to train the new guy vs bump the experienced guy's pay, but they don't see that.

[–]Trimere 160 points161 points  (61 children)

$15/hr still isn’t a living wage.

[–]BlueNinjaTiger 17 points18 points  (8 children)

Depends on area. Depends on if you have family or dependents. My area, a single person can support themselves on less.

that said, it's tight

it's not enough if you have a kid

it's not enough if you have student or medical debt

etc.

[–]kaleb42 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Where I'm at 15hr is actually very livable and is 25% higher than the average yearly income for my area

[–]MercenaryCow 54 points55 points  (13 children)

I agree. I've been making 15 an hour for a few years now. And it's difficult to live alone on it. Very difficult.

Now with the push for 15 an hour, I'm seeing lots of goods and services get more expensive. I remember when the push for 15 as minimum wage was happening, everybody was saying that wouldn't happen if 15 became minimum wage. Shit, I'm seeing it happen and 15 isn't even the minimum wage yet

[–]WEsellFAKEdoors 34 points35 points  (0 children)

The cost of everything always goes up buddy.

[–]portablemustard 69 points70 points  (4 children)

I don't think the two are related as much. I think the inflation currently is being more driven by covid.

[–]Trifle_Useful 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Yep. A few companies going $15 an hour doesn’t have nearly the effect that 4-5% inflation does.

[–]SovietDash 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Increasing the minimum wage will increase the cost of everything. However, not increasing the minimum wage will increase the cost of everything, too.

[–]throwaway-passing-by 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Walgreens is a company that makes over 100 billion dollars a year, made enough money firing all of its assistant managers to pay their new CEO a 20 million dollar bonus, and gave $200 to full-time employees for working during the pandemic ONLY if they didn’t take time off during the first four months of 2020. The current employees are leaving in droves.

[–]Vi0lentByt3 84 points85 points  (12 children)

Lol now it needs to be 20/hr, the time for 15/hr was 10 years ago

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

$15/hour was the 2008 goal now to have the same purchasing power you need to offer like 22-25. More if you don’t want them to leave the second they realize what an awful place Walgreens is.

[–]mrfancyNOpants 13 points14 points  (10 children)

Oh how cool. Less than 32k a year after taxes. Let's praise them. I know it's a step in the right direction but c'mon. 32 k is barely livable. More like laughible.

[–]BracesForImpact 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Keep it up guys, then those of us making a few dollars more than $15 can start asking for raises too...

[–]Quantumdrive95 66 points67 points  (19 children)

Just in time for that to be still not enough money to motivate me to get out of bed

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

You couldn’t pay me enough to spend my life in a Walgreens.

[–]utu_ 29 points30 points  (5 children)

with all the inflation from covid, 15 is the 7.5 lol

[–]The_Bitter_Bear 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Yeah. It's funny how inflation happened even when minimum wage didn't go up. It's clearly the only factor.

[–]michizzle85 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But how many hours are they scheduling?

[–]Ronho 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I think they are offering 15/hr to their new hire pharmacists too….

[–]King_Merlin 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Technicians. Pharmacist probably wouldn’t accept a job at $15 even if your struggling, you can get more at a mom and pops drug store.

[–]Montanabioguy 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Should minimum wage had kept up with inflation since it's inception in 1938, the federal minimum wage would now be about $22 an hour.

I think about that every time I see a story praising minimum $15 per hour wages by a company.

The average take-home pay of a $15 per hour worker after taxes is about $24,000. Assuming that this employee is getting a full 40-hour workweek and is not paying for medical benefits out of their salary, which many normally do so.

The federal poverty level (line) for individuals is: $17,420 for a family of 2 $26,500 for a family of 4 So, should the worker have only a spouse and is not paying for medical benefits, they are living just over the poverty line on $15 per hour wages.

Should that worker have a family, they are earning wages below the poverty line.

It is also worth pointing out that many workers that are by-the-hour wage employees do not receive 40-hour workweeks. Many receive less than 32 hours per week.

[–]lyra_silver 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile I was a manager back in the day for 12 fucking dollars an hour there. According to the inflation calc I just used that's 14 bucks now. For Management. I had to open the store, close the store, deal with insane customers and handle all of the money.

[–]TheCrazedTank 3 points4 points  (0 children)

“Walgreens joins over rich corporations in doing the bare minimum effort of 15 years ago”

FTFY. Also, by the by, the minimum “living wage” of many places tend to be a bit North or South of $20.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

10 years too late. It's sad that these companies have to be dragged kicking and screaming to do the bare minimum. $15/hour is not a lot of money considering the cost of living today.

[–]LATourGuide 4 points5 points  (0 children)

These companies are too late, now we need $20

[–]smearhunter 23 points24 points  (9 children)

I waited for 55 minutes in the Walgreens drive through today. Only one window open. Hopefully this helps.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (1 child)

It wont. They’re a notoriously awful place to work.

[–]iMakeMoneyiLoseMoney 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Can confirm. Myself and 90% of my coworkers are Walgreens refugees.

[–]Buttercup_Bride 30 points31 points  (4 children)

Given that that number still falls short of what even a pharmacy tech should be paid and is often exceeded by local hospitals they’ll likely still lose techs to the competitors they do now.

I worked at one and we hemorrhaged techs because the local large hospital paid a better wage.

[–]Maxpowr9 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Exactly. Walgreens has been plummeting in terms of quality for a long while. Hell, one of my friends used run a pharmacy at Walgreens and left for CVS and the entire store shut down because of it.

[–]bobandgeorge 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It won't. They had bare skeleton crews doing it before and it wasn't because they couldn't find anyone to hire. Companies go on and on about how customer service is the most important thing to them but they aren't willing to put their money where their mouth is.

[–]Vapur9 2 points3 points  (2 children)

$15 an hour is TODAY's living wage. Doing the bare minimum, that's what you should learn to expect from your employees. It's already moving away fast from being the living wage.

Let's see how well they do in adjusting to keep pace with inflation in the future. 10 years from now, we're going to hear the same stories of them patting themselves on the back for raising wages to where they should be.

[–]beeinabearcostume 6 points7 points  (1 child)

But a living wage where? Cost of living varies widely depending on location

[–]red8er 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Too bad their pharmacy runs like shit because of the upper management’s red tape all over it.

[–]mannie007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Still in the non liveable wage hour club

[–]dreamingcow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

$15 per hour is obsolete. It still doesn't take inflation into account.

[–]Tavionn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pharmacy tech here. $15 an hour ain’t shit for the shit we deal with everyday.