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Victoria police get extra search powers

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A crackdown on drunkenness and violence will continue in Victoria with new laws brought in today, including extra powers for police to strip search people for weapons.

Police can also issue $234 on-the-spot fines for people who refuse to leave pubs and clubs when asked.

The new laws come after the nationally-coordinated Operation Unite police crackdown on alcohol-related violence across Australia and New Zealand last weekend.

Under the new search laws, police will be able to declare designated areas for searches if they have a history of violence involving weapons, or they believe such an incident is about to take place.

They will be able to stop and search a person without a warrant in the areas, such as train stations or city blocks.

The areas will be designated for a 12-hour period only and, by law, must be advertised in a government gazette and newspaper seven days in advance.

Deputy Commissioner Kieran Walshe hopes to have the first designated areas in place early in the new year.

He said the increased powers were important because there had been a significant rise in weapons crime in the past year.

"Victoria Police statistics from 2008-09 show that robberies involving knives increased by 9.4 per cent in the last year. This is simply unacceptable," Mr Walshe said.

The new powers have been opposed by some, including Liberty Victoria president Michael Pearce.

Opponents say they are an undemocratic, draconian intrusion on civil liberties and human rights, and will enable officers to strip-search children and the disabled.

Mr Walshe said any police action would be justified and appropriate.

"We are concerned with people's rights and respect them but at the end of the day we are also concerned with the community's rights to be safe in the city and elsewhere," he said.

Police will be able to impose fines for the new offence of disorderly conduct as well as drunk and disorderly and drunk.

The new laws include:

The power to direct people to move on from a certain area where it is feared there will be a breach of the peace;

A new offence of disorderly conduct;

On-the-spot penalties;

Random search powers for weapons.

The "No Excuses" campaign launched last week aims to tackle drunken violence in the city before the busy Christmas/new year period.

Another scheme includes reopening a safe community area at St Pauls Cathedral in the city which will provide refreshments to late-night revellers while they wait for a taxi or NightRider bus.

AAP

11 comments so far

  • Poilce are not trustworthy and over empowerment is dangerous.

    Commenter
    Andrew
    Date and time
    December 16, 2009, 2:42PM
    • Is there any reason they can't just use a portable metal detector?

      Giving people a weeks notice is also silly because people who do actually carry weapons will just avoid the areas and go stab people elsewhere, which makes the whole strip search thing redundant, but I am grateful for the notice. It will mean I can avoid going to these areas so I don't get strip searched for looking the wrong way. Maybe this is what they are aiming for, but it is certainly the wrong way to go about it because EVERYONE will avoid the area.

      It's only a matter of time before someone abuses the new laws.

      I can see it now, someone being strip searched and resisting (not because they have a weapon but because they don't want to be publicly humiliated) and people of the general public watching and some trying to stop it. Police then threaten to issue on the spot fines for not moving along, leaving no witnesses to help the poor person being degraded.

      I hope whoever thought of this stupid plan ends up in this position.

      Metal detectors would make life so much easier for everyone and it will take only a few seconds to give a suspect the once over and save a lot of face.

      Commenter
      Adrian
      Location
      Kensington
      Date and time
      December 16, 2009, 2:53PM
      • Yet another example of the govenrment and police treating everyone as a criminal. Other recent examples in this state include having to prepay for taxi and fuel (before moving your car) as well as fishing expeditions by officers outside railway stations sniffing our youth for drugs etc.

        If the government started treating its citizens with the respect we deserve, they may fear us less with reduced need for these stupid laws.

        Commenter
        Boomshanka
        Location
        Bendigo
        Date and time
        December 16, 2009, 3:01PM
        • I Feel that besides issuing fines which are just monetary in nature, The Police should Impose DEMERIT Points on the Driving Lic. This will really help. As people will then think before behaving like Morons.

          Commenter
          AJ
          Location
          Melbourne
          Date and time
          December 16, 2009, 3:40PM
          • Lets stop this nonsense. The problem is the licensing laws which created these booze problems. Cracdown on happy hours, serving drunks and other such meaasures.Get to the root cause. The rest are just symptons.

            Commenter
            Allan
            Location
            Werribee
            Date and time
            December 16, 2009, 3:44PM
            • This is the old ambulance-waiting-at-the-bottom-of-a-cliff remedy. Here's a thought. Let's actually get serious about the issue. Close down any venue that serves alcohol to a drunk. Oops, their goes the whole State!

              Commenter
              Misha
              Location
              Selby
              Date and time
              December 16, 2009, 3:48PM
              • welome to 1984

                Commenter
                winton smith
                Location
                melbourne
                Date and time
                December 16, 2009, 3:50PM
                • Run trams 24 hours a day on Friday and Saturday nights as well as the night before any public holiday.

                  This would solve the issue of people being drunk and frustrated roaming the streets looking for taxis. I've been stranded in the city for 2 hours looking for a taxi before. I don't look for fights but on occasions where there have been disputes over taxi's I've had to walk away from a taxi I've flagged or risk getting my head punched in by angry drunks.

                  This would also help alleviate the issue of people deciding to stay in the city until public transport starts the next morning. Of course people will get blind drunk if it's easier to stay out until 6am then head off at 2 or 3am.

                  Commenter
                  Julian Wearne
                  Location
                  Melbourne
                  Date and time
                  December 16, 2009, 3:56PM
                  • Papers please! Anyone remember this from Germany 1931-1945.

                    This is the next step on the slippery slope to a police state.

                    Never ever should civil liberties be sacrificed for excuses of public order. This is how Hitler justified what he did. He did everything within the law. Of course, he made the laws. This is how tyranny works. Starts off with the excuse of protecting the people.

                    The draconian police powers are dangerous and hand the tools to tyranny to governments who may not govern in the interest of the people.

                    Commenter
                    Brown Shirt
                    Location
                    Ballarat
                    Date and time
                    December 16, 2009, 4:03PM
                    • These laws are just common sense and will allow the police to simply do their job more effectively. I personally have no objection to being asked to move on or being subjected to the occassional search. If I was so drunk that I couldn't comply in an orderly fashion I can accept the consequences.

                      Commenter
                      JW
                      Location
                      Canada
                      Date and time
                      December 16, 2009, 4:15PM

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