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To all @-ing me over this: none of the Wikipedia examples you're sending to me count as mass shootings (4+ deaths in indiscriminate attack)

@JoshButler Can't handle being wrong Josh? Because you are! Don't go shifting the goal posts to suit your Greenie agenda #96NeverAgain

@quick_crazy wait, you're saying "96 never again" and arguing AGAINST gun control? yeah ok

@quick_crazy mate you could also point out a case of murder to say murder laws don't work, or a rape to say rape laws don't work

@quick_crazy no law is EVER going to stop EVERY incident of something. Laws are meant to stop MOST. Which they do. Irrefutably

@quick_crazy it's about making it ridiculously hard to get guns. Which the laws do.

@JoshButler @0xDEBA5E12 You're conveniently forgetting about the Lindt Cafe siege.

@0xdeadbabe @0xDEBA5E12 two people died, not a mass shooting

@JoshButler @0xDEBA5E12 Hence my use of "convenient". Gun was owned illegally, successful terror attack, yet you claim disarmament helped.

@0xdeadbabe @0xDEBA5E12 so laws only work if there is NEVER a breach? May as well remove every law against everything, then

@0xdeadbabe @0xDEBA5E12 the point is that laws make these things astonishingly rare, rather than the 135 US shootings in 164 days this year

@JoshButler @0xdeadbabe @0xDEBA5E12 where did you get that number? I don't remember there being 135 mass shootings in the US this yr

@JoshButler that's inaccurate, and the gloating when people are grieving is insanely tacky

@ktxby not inaccurate, not gloating, simply saying there ARE alternatives to letting this happen every day

@JoshButler of course there are alternatives, just as there are a list of shootings/mass killings on Wikipedia you can consult.

@ktxbyhttps://mobile.twitter.com/joshbutler/status/742336332383408132 …

@JoshButler The Hunt family murders was 5 dead in a shooting, but I'm sure you ignore that because it wasn't 'indiscriminate'

@ktxby yes. It wasn't indiscriminate so it doesn't count. What part of the definition are you confused about?

@JoshButler that's not in the definition used by criminologists, and the details of the case indicated little if any motive.