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Politics wrap: May 27, 2013

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It's quietening down around the corridors. Time for a wrap up of the day and then an adieu:

* much of the day was spent dissecting the PM's decision to ban the advertising of odds during live sports events;

* we'll see tomorrow whether it was enough to see off a private member's bill by government backbencher Stephen Jones who has promised to raise the issue during the caucus meeting;

* the Greens are dissatisfied with the government's measures and will try to raise support for further restrictions;

* budget estimate hearings are being held this week and next;

* Hansard reporters will no longer sit on the floor of Parliament (except during Question Time); and

* kind words were offered from both sides of politics to mark the death of Hazel Hawke.

Big thanks, as always, to photographers Andrew Meares and Alex Ellinghausen for their fabulous work. My pic(k) of the day is still the 2.15pm post/shot of Joe "George Clooney" Hockey.

And thanks also to everyone who joins in the conversation each day.

We'll be back tomorrow. Please join us.

 

 

And Heath Aston has also been listening in on committee hearings. He has filed this story in which evidence was given suggesting as many as 200,000 roof top solar panels may not have been properly installed.

 

More from budget estimates committees.

Immigration correspondent Bianca Hall has the story about how the Department of Immigration vastly underestimated the number of asylum seekers expected to arrive in Australia this year. Up to 25,000 are now expected - almost five times more than initial forecasts.

Earlier today Tim Lester recorded this mini debate between Labor Senator Louise Pratt and Coalition MP Kelly O'Dwyer. The pair have a robust exchange over the need for a full debate on a Greens bill extending marriage rights to same sex couples. Mind you, they both support the concept even if one is bound by her party's position and one is not.

The selection of bills' committee has not yet decided whether to recommend the bill for a vote. If it gives the bill the green light then it is up to the Leader of the House, Anthony Albanese, to set a date for a vote.

The Greens argue a full debate is not needed because several bills dealing with the issue have been recently dealt with. They want a vote asap.

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Same-sex marriage supporters Louise Pratt (Labor) and Kelly O'Dwyer (Liberal) clash over the need for a conscience vote on the Greens bill to be debated in Parliament this week.

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That would be a "no" to the question of a no confidence motion today.

After 15 questions the PM calls time on Question Time.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott during Question Time on Monday.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott during Question Time on Monday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The Attorney-General, Mark Dreyfus, has written an open letter to Mr Abbott asking him to back away from a pledge to repeal part of the Racial Discrimination Act.

Breaking news reporter Judith Ireland filed this story on the issue a short time ago.

i-bench 2.0

Opposition frontbenchers Peter Dutton, Malcolm Turnbull and Kevin Andrews during Question Time on Monday.

Opposition frontbenchers Peter Dutton, Malcolm Turnbull and Kevin Andrews during Question Time on Monday. Photo: Andrew Meares

The power and the passion.

Schools Minister Peter Garrett during Question Time on Monday.

Schools Minister Peter Garrett during Question Time on Monday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The Treasurer, Wayne Swan, accuses the opposition of trying to create "a Trojan horse that will cover up the fact".

Hmmm, let's think about that image for a while.

Except we can't do that for too long because opposition stalwart Bronwyn Bishop has counter accused the government of speaking with "the clang of an empty vessel".

The wit.

 

 

i-bench

Opposition frontbenchers Peter Dutton, Malcolm Turnbull and Kevin Andrews during Question Time.

Opposition frontbenchers Peter Dutton, Malcolm Turnbull and Kevin Andrews during Question Time. Photo: Andrew Meares

It seems Mr Thomson was not happy with the PM's answer (see 2.32pm post):

Who likes families more? The opposition with its paid parental leave scheme or the government with its school kids' bonus (and status as party that introduced paid parental leave)? The government has now devoted two questions to arguing its case.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard during Question Time on Monday.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard during Question Time on Monday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Labor MP Michelle Rowland (who represents the Sydney seat of Greenway) asks the Minister for Families, Jenny Macklin, what the government is doing to help families.

Geddit? It was only at the end of the last sitting week (barely ten days ago) that Ms Rowland was denied a pair by the Opposition so she could return home to look after her sick baby. Subtle as a sledgehammer, as my grandfather would have said.

The PM receives a question about coal seam gas and water security from, ahem, the member for Dobell, Craig Thomson.

Ms Gillard says the government will not support his private member's bill on the issue but points to recent changes made to federal environment laws on the matter.

We are in the fourth last week of Parliament before the election. Was that Mr Thomson's last question?

 

Craig Thomson asks Prime Minister Julia Gillard a question during Question Time on Monday.

Craig Thomson asks Prime Minister Julia Gillard a question during Question Time on Monday. Photo: Andrew Meares

We've been waiting for this a long time. Thanks to breaking news reporter Judith Ireland for tweeting in.

Can you believe the budget was handed down less than two weeks ago? It seems like much longer.

But not in Question Time which is focusing on economic management.

Which side of the chamber is more damaging to the economy?

The leader of the Opposition, Tony Abbott, has accused the government of being pretty hopeless given its track record on the mining and carbon tax. His industry spokeswoman, Sophie Mirabella, lays the decision of Ford Australia to cease operations in Australia at the feet of the government.

The government begs to differ offering as evidence the Opposition's paid parental leave scheme and other decisions such as not keeping the school kids' bonus payments. It get a gift when Mr Abbott mentions Olympic Dam, a project which Mr Abbott got himself into a spot of bother during a well publicised interview last year.

"You seek to whip up fear but you never seek to acquaint yourself with the facts," the PM says.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard arrives for Question Time on Monday.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard arrives for Question Time on Monday. Photo: Andrew Meares

About that no confidence motion, Tony.....

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott and deputy opposition leader Julie Bishop during Question Time on Monday.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott and deputy opposition leader Julie Bishop during Question Time on Monday. Photo: Andrew Meares

To us he's the Opposition's treasury spokesman, Joe Hockey. But he'll always be "the George Clooney of Australian politics" to Tony Abbott.

Shadow Treasurer Joe Hockey during Question Time on Monday.

Shadow Treasurer Joe Hockey during Question Time on Monday. Photo: Andrew Meares

MPs are now marking a minute's silence to remember Hazel Hawke.

The leader of the Opposition, Tony Abbott, has also paid tribute to Mrs Hawke. She was "an adornment to our national life," he said.

Back to Question Time as usual.

Prime Minister, Julia Gillard: "Being married to a driven and complex man wasn't always easy.....We deeply admired the independent persona she forged both beside his side and beyond his shadow. Hazel Hawke lived and thrived in her own right."

Had Mrs Hawke been born twenty or thirty years later she probably would have gone into public life herself, Ms Gillard says. But she embraced difficult issues such as drug abuse, women's reproductive rights, indigenous rights.

Hazel Hawke was a "quiet warrior" for women's rights and one of the many women who "blazed a trail for women like me," the PM says.

 

Prime Minister Julia Gillard during Question Time on Monday.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard during Question Time on Monday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

But first we have condolences for Hazel Hawke, the wife of former prime minister Bob Hawke.

Love the way MPs start speaking super fast as their time runs down (particularly when they are speaking just before Question Time from which we are but five minutes away).

I don't normally link away from politics but here is the link where you can see Cardinal George Pell giving evidence to Victoria's child sexual abuse inquiry.

A few things to direct you to before we head into the maelstrom:

* National Party Senator and lower house wannabe Barnaby Joyce says the weekend result for the NSW state seat of Northern Tablelands shows people want to be represented by a party not an independent. The seat covers much of the same ground as the federal seat of New England which Senator Joyce is determined to take away from sitting independent MP Tony Windsor;

* The Sydney Morning Herald's redoubtable economics editor, Ross Gittins, has written this pithy piece of commentary about the Coalition's strategy of leaving people in the dark about all their policy costings until the election campaign; and

* a spokesman for the Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, says Ms Gillard will serve the full term of the next Parliament if she is re elected. The statement was issued after an interview Ms Gillard gave to Guardian Australia in which she would not guarantee staying in Parliament if Labor was in opposition.

There's about half an hour to go before the bells start ringing for Question Time.

Since it's a betting kind of day - what are the odds the Coalition will move its much-discussed motion of no confidence?

Sometimes bipartisanship pops up in the most surprising of places. Like budget estimates committees for instance.

Labor Senator John Faulkner and Liberal Senator Helen Kroger combined forces to shed some light on the upcoming trial of removing Hansard reporters from the parliamentary chambers (see 10.39am post).

Carol Mills, who runs the Department of Parliamentary Services, which oversees Hansard, told the committee it was all a bit of a storm in a tea cup. Hansard reporters stopped writing word-for-word accounts of everything that is said back in the late 1990s.

"They don't record the words as they are spoken," Ms Mills said. "They take a log of who is speaking. They then return to their office and they listen to the recording of that seven-and-a-half minute period and they transcribe it....The work that is done in the chamber is not actually taking Hansard, it is taking notes of who is speaking."

Senator Kroger raised the issue of interjections, which can be very difficult to hear inside the chamber and nigh on impossible from a broadcast.

Ms Mills said interjections would be examined as part of the trial. "Officially our view is we only record an interjection when someone responds to it so we are not there to record every interjection," she said.

Ms Mills said if the trial conditions became permanent they would save half a million dollars a year largely because Hansard staff could save an hour a day by not walking to and from the chamber (which would reduce overtime).

And as for the senator who raised the issue of equipment blocking people's sight? Senator Faulkner eventually managed to get Ms Mills to name Tasmanian Liberal Senator Stephen Parry (deputy president of the Senate and chairman of committees) as the responsible person. Ms Mills said Senator Parry was concerned equipment such as laptops were obscuring senators' view of the chamber.

Snaps to economics reporter Peter Martin who provided me with back up during the hearings this morning.

The head of the Department of Parliamentary Services, Carol Mills, appears before a committee hearing at Parliament House on  Monday.

The head of the Department of Parliamentary Services, Carol Mills, appears before a committee hearing at Parliament House on Monday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

This gentleman is Phil Bowen, officer with the Parliamentary Budget Office.

You may remember his name from a couple of weeks ago when his office was dragged into a stoush over the cost of the Coalition's paid parental leave scheme.

Mr Bowen told an estimates committee this morning his office had recently experienced a "surge capacity" to deal with a doubling of the number of requests from parties and MPs for policy costings.

Mr Bowen said an extra $1.5 million in funding had allowed his office to expand to 34 staff. In addition six private contractors have been employed and another six would be needed in the lead up to the election.

As of May 17 the PBO, as its known around the traps, had received 418 requests for costings of which 280 had been completed. It takes an average of 15 business days to cost a policy, Mr Bowen told the hearing.

The PBO is one of four parliamentary departments. Its job is to provide non-partisan and independent analysis of the budget cycle, fiscal policy and the financial implications of proposals.

 

Parliamentary Budget Officer Phil Bowen appears before a Senate estimates hearing at Parliament House on Monday.

Parliamentary Budget Officer Phil Bowen appears before a Senate estimates hearing at Parliament House on Monday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

I should declare I am a bit of a parliamentary committee nerd. I love the way the committees - particularly budget estimates - reveal the administration and bureaucracy behind our system of government.

So bear with me for a couple of posts as I bring you up to date on a couple of things that have been going on in estimates this morning.

 

Poor old Rob Oakeshott (the independent MP for Lyne). He is trying to be very busy with a private member's bill seeking clarity on the Commonwealth's role in the electricity market.

But he has been distracted by Twitter (haven't we all?) after confusing the Adelaide Crows with Port Adelaide. He was corrected by, among many others, Adelaide resident and Minister for Childcare, Kate Ellis, a woman who takes who wears which short shorts very seriously.

Mr Oakeshott offered this in his defence:

 

Back to the story of the day so far - sports gambling.

Has the PM gone far enough? What do you think?

Have your say at our online poll here.

 

The Greens' deputy leader, Adam Bandt, is on his feet in the House of Representatives at the moment introducing a bill that would establish an independent Office of Animal Welfare.

According to the Greens the Voice for Animals (Independent Office of Animal Welfare) Bill would "establish an animal welfare champion to promote animal rights and monitor the regulation of live exports".

Mr Bandt points out that Labor committed to introducing such an office when it last met to decide its party platform. The bill is an attempt to hurry up that process. Since we are now in the fourth last sitting week of Parliament before the September 14 election the bill seems unlikely to be passed unless it receives support from either of the major parties.

 

The landscape of Parliament is about to change.

Hansard reporters have been on the floor of both parliamentary chambers since 1901 charged with the mission of providing accurate, unbiased and generally verbatim accounts of parliamentary debate to members and senators.

But after this sitting fortnight they may be removed from the chambers and forced to do their reporting from television screens elsewhere inside Parliament House.

When Parliament sits for the final sitting fortnight (the week beginning May 27) a trial will be run during which time there will be no Hansard reporters in either chamber (with the exception of a limited presence during Question Time) and Hansard equipment will be removed from the Senate although not the House of Representatives.

Hansard staff have been given mixed messages about why this trial is taking place. One is the inevitable cost cutting but the other more intriguing suggestion is that a senator complained that Hansard equipment was obstructing his/her view.

So if someone did complain who was it? And why? All suggestions gratefully accepted.

Mr Jones' interview (see 9.46am post) with Fairfax Media's Tim Lester is now available for your viewing pleasure.

 

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Labor backbencher Stephen Jones applauds the PM for live odds legislation, but reserves the right to argue for a broader ban in caucus this week.

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Labor backbencher Stephen Jones has been one of the most vocal government MPs on this issue.

Mr Jones has told Fairfax Media's Tim Lester that the PM's decision "gets rid of the incessant rattle of live odds promotion throughout the course game (sic) as well".

However Mr Jones says the changes do not go as far as he would like, particularly in relation to some advertising of gambling services during times when children are likely to be watching.

Mr Jones will persist with a private member's bill dealing with this issue (which is also of concern to the Greens) and promises to raise it at tomorrow's meeting of the Labor caucus.

Incidentally, the Coalition shadow cabinet is meeting at the moment and is surely discussing the government's new policy which isn't a hundred miles from its own policy on this matter.

I'll post the full video of that interview shortly.

So is the ban going to do anything?

The NSW Government seems to think not and wants a complete ban. Its reaction to Ms Gillard's announcement leads the story explaining exactly what will happen under the government's new restrictions which you can read here.

If you haven't already found your way to it already Peter FitzSimons' take on the announcement can be found here.

Prime Minister Juila Gillard  and Communications Minister Stephen Conroy at a press conference at Kirribilli House.

Prime Minister Juila Gillard and Communications Minister Stephen Conroy at a press conference at Kirribilli House. Photo: Dean Sewell

Prime Minister Juila Gillard  and Communications Minister Stephen Conroy at a press conference at Kirribilli House.

Prime Minister Juila Gillard and Communications Minister Stephen Conroy at a press conference at Kirribilli House. Photo: Dean Sewell

The Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, is rolling the dice on sports gambling reform (I'm really going to make an effort to keep the bad puns down to a minimum).

Ms Gillard has listened to the increasing public disquiet over the prevalence of gambling ads during live sports events and yesterday announced she would ban the spruiking of live odds during sports broadcasts.

However the ban - which is supported by the television networks - stops short of banning gambling ads during breaks in play and will still allow live crosses to gambling representatives during breaks in play so long as they are clearly identified as bookies and are not filmed at the venue where the event is taking place.

 

Parliament is back for the fortnight this morning but in a slightly different form.

The House of Representatives is sitting as usual however senators will be devoting themselves to budget estimates committees, those gatherings where MPs get to grill ministers and public servants about portfolio expenditure.

It can be a gruelling experience for those involved particularly when a well briefed senator gets the whiff of blood.

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  • Interesting that Labor is more concerned about the revenue base of the TV networks than they were about the revenue base of the NT and Qld cattle farmers.

    How many kids do the TV networks feed ?

    Commenter
    Hacka
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    Canberra
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 4:52PM
  • It seems the only time Julia's government gets its numbers right is when she's counting them against Kevin.

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    SteveH.
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    May 27, 2013, 4:18PM
    • Speaking of Kevin, where is he today? where are the happy snaps of the new enlightened Kevin? perhaps he's busy with his new constituency?

      Commenter
      enough is enough
      Location
      Labor party La La Land
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 4:29PM
    • SteveH - the problem must start at school. Why else the big push for the education revolution ?

      Maybe future school maths subjects should include probability theory for gaming, arithmetic, and balancing a budget.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 4:33PM
  • Gee and Mr Negative Equity Swan cut back the budget on illegal immigration because they have well and truely smashed the people smugglers model. Back to the mint for Swan - print more hundred dollar notes, and fast!

    Commenter
    enough is enough
    Location
    Labor party La La Land
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 3:57PM
    • So you think you're in the USA? A tad 'confused' are you?

      Commenter
      Simon
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 5:00PM
  • So Tony Abbott has signed the London Declaration yet still wants to repeal section 18c from the Racial Discrimination Act.
    Hmm, that doesn't add up.
    So you can't vilify Jews but you can to any other race.
    That's racism and hypocrisy rolled into one.
    Isn't Mr Abbott always pushing his volunteering in Aboriginal communities.
    I'm confused. Please explain?

    Commenter
    A country gal
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    May 27, 2013, 3:36PM
    • Well Counrty Girl where do we start to explain your confusion? perhaps a PHD theisis would explain it?

      Commenter
      enough is enough
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      Labor party La La Land
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 4:03PM
    • E is E, feel free.

      Commenter
      A country gal
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      May 27, 2013, 4:14PM
    • I actually agree with you country gal, I am tired of these restrictions, I have things that need saying

      Commenter
      Urafknidiot
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      May 27, 2013, 5:03PM
  • Watching Pell squirm today is better entertainment than QT.

    Commenter
    A country gal
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    May 27, 2013, 3:29PM
  • Craig should do a Katter and launch his own Ain't Misbehaving Now Party.

    Commenter
    SteveH.
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    May 27, 2013, 2:57PM
    • Thommo will no doubt be found not guilty of anything and become the next leader of the Another Lie Party. I await his vision and policies on coal mining and advice on restauarant menus and wine lists.

      Commenter
      enough is enough
      Location
      Labor party La La Land
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 3:54PM
  • Question Time as usual is getting very few answers. Everytime the LNP ask the hard one's the standard operating procedure is for the ALP to talk about Schools, schools and more schools. Another mysandric rant by the PM didn't go by unnoticed either.

    Commenter
    Give Diggers back their rights
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    May 27, 2013, 2:52PM
    • How do you reckon QT will go in the next Parliament? The Abbott govt is sure to have a large majority in the Reps and maybe a slim one in the Senate. Reckon they'll allow QT to operate freely and diligently supply answers to opposition questions?

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      beria
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      May 27, 2013, 3:41PM
    • Obfuscation in QT is the hallmark of this Labor government. Gillard is the master of avoidance on the tough questions that relate to her government's failures. Interesting to see how the coalition conduct themselves in QT when they are in govt after the election. I suspect there will be an improvement in decorum at least - we can only hope.

      Commenter
      Tim of Altona
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      May 27, 2013, 3:55PM
    • How about they actual ask a sensible quesiton - perhaps then they will get a proper response

      Commenter
      Graham Maine
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      Melbourne
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 4:02PM
    • Tim, an improvement?
      Have I missed something, are Abbott and Pyne retiring?
      The Gazelles seat is winnable. Surely the voters of Sturt are waking up.
      Bye,Gotta go and buy a new laminator for my NOPE posters.

      Commenter
      A country gal
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      May 27, 2013, 4:13PM
  • Did Abbott say "S..T Happens"this time?

    Commenter
    Steeden
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    May 27, 2013, 2:44PM
  • Gee, I'm surprised Julia isn't supporting
    Craig's private member's bill, she was full of confidence the last time the member for Dobell was having trouble with private bills.

    Commenter
    SteveH.
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    May 27, 2013, 2:43PM
  • To the Rowlands dorathy, perhaps Macklin will answer that the government provides $35 per day in support for many families, that should be plenty to live on.

    No need for any extra for the odd online flutter.

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 2:41PM
  • What a bunch of gutless wonders. The Government is worried about the TV channels losing $$$ from advertising during sport. What a croc. This is clearly a limp wristed approach to Advertised sports gambling by the ALP. They wouldn't want any adverse media comment with the election coming up, now would they. It's a shame that the Quarter of a Billion Dollars that each station is given (by us) can't get them through losing 1 or 2 advertisers. Sick...

    Commenter
    Phil
    Location
    Mitchelton
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 2:35PM
    • I contend that Labor is hoping to get campaign donations from the vested interests, which is why they've gone in weak here. They're too far gone already with the hearts and minds of media and the voters, so $$$s is the only logical explanation.

      Commenter
      beria
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      May 27, 2013, 3:52PM
  • I was watching that Whitlam doco last night and was struck by two things. One, Whitlam seemed to spend ver litting time obsessing over his opposition (the then government, before Whitlam was elected). Two, Julia and her cronies reminded me of those Labor dinosaurs Whitlam had to sweep away to prepare the party for government back in the early 1970s!

    Commenter
    AdamC
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    Melbourne
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 1:57PM
  • ''The TV industry and the radio industry would say to you for the last three and four years advertising has been significantly reduced . . . so it is becoming harder and harder in this sector.'' Stephen Conroy today.

    Maybe that's why we are seeing adverts for Gonski (national education whatever) in NSW even though we have been signed up for it.

    Electioneering?

    Commenter
    dRod
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    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 1:38PM
    • Maybe live odds during Question Time would be more acceptable.

      Commenter
      Puzzled
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      May 27, 2013, 3:38PM
  • Probably low odds on the No Confidence motion Stephanie, the Coalition seem to have gone all quiet on it.

    Windsor's unlikely to change his position especially since the New England polling numbers show him in front or Barnaby.

    Wilkie's also probably happy that some gaming issues are back in the agenda.

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 1:34PM
    • Oakshott got his surf club rebuilt, Windsor would have scrounged something extra from the pork barrel in agreeing not to support a no confidence motion..poor old Wilkie..well he always gets left out in the cold. September 14 will come soon enough..its like Christmas..half the excitement is in the waiting.... you are pretty sure you will get what you want but there is no way to be absolutely positive.

      Commenter
      thereisnoyouinLabor
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 3:55PM
  • I'll be first blogger to move the no confidence motion. Anyone to second?

    Commenter
    enough is enough
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    Labor party/Greens La La Land
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 1:27PM
    • I don't think our votes count, eie ! Pity, we'll need to wait until September.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 1:36PM
    • I'll second one on Abbott. And with pleasure.

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      A country gal
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      May 27, 2013, 1:47PM
  • Stephen Conroy apparently wants to support television broadcasters by permitting gambling promotion.
    The subtitle is perhaps the government doesn't want broadcasters offside during the election.
    I say the broadcasters survived without tobacco advertising and they should not be reliant upon promotion of socialy corruptive industries to make money.
    Labor better get a backbone if they want any chance!

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    Jack
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    May 27, 2013, 1:25PM
    • Tobacco is not like gambling. There is no safe level of smoking and almost every single regular smoker is an addict. (Why else would you do it?)

      By contrast, there is nothing wrong with a flutter in moderation. I see some argument for restricting water-muddying between editorial and advertising, but gambling ads should be permitted within reason.

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      AdamC
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 1:44PM
    • @adamc
      No one suggests outlawing a "flutter"
      Those that wish to gamble know where to go and don't need much assistance in finding someone to take their money
      Gambling promotion is intended to increase the population of punters and the frequency of bets. These are not socially desirable outcomes.

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      Jack
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      May 27, 2013, 2:22PM
    • You are so spot on, it's uncanny.

      Commenter
      Phil
      Location
      Mitchelton
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 2:36PM
    • Jack, who are you to say how much gambling is desirable? If people are addicts, that is one thing, but most people are quite capable of determining how much the wisn to gamble. Talk about patronising nanny-statism!

      Doing just about anything to excess is damaging. People seem to forget that.

      Commenter
      AdamC
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 3:01PM
    • With Conroy in charge there can only be convoluted results, his ability to bungle is only exceeded by his ability to fumble.
      The Government's reaction due to public pressure needs careful and well calculated working through. Can Conroy provide that, given his fault filled record?.

      Commenter
      Blair
      Location
      Bulleen 3105
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 3:20PM
    • Labor should realise that they're already offside with too many voters and with most of big business, including the broadcasters. They've nothing left to lose in terms of popularity. This half-measure of theirs must be about trying to induce campaign donations from broadcasters and gambling interests, why else do it?

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      beria
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      May 27, 2013, 3:50PM
    • @adamc
      Your comments read like a mixture of straw man extremes and motherhood statements. Bound to begile some I suppose.
      In answer to your somewhat rhetorical question,"who am I to say.."
      Perhaps like you, I'm a voter

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      Jack
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      May 27, 2013, 4:17PM
  • This is really a no brainer. Sports betting should never have been allowed , nor should it be allowed during any T.V. program or in any 'in your face' place where children are exposed to it. What sort of nation are a few more unscrupulous people wanting us to turn into, just so they can make a profit out of promoting something which causes some families misery due to addiction.

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    No brainer
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    May 27, 2013, 1:18PM
  • Hansard reporters will surely be "off-shored" now they don't need a presence in the house! Think of the cash savings Swanie.

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    dRod
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 1:07PM
  • Now that Gillard has committed to stay a full term can Swan, Combet, Wong, Shorten, Conroy and Emerson all do the same. I want to witness first hand their explanations of their mismanagement of our economy, industrial relations, border control, NBN, and carbon monoxide tax. It will be worth watching to see the spin unravelled.
    That is of course assuming they keep their safe union controlled seats.

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    paulk
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    melbourne
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 12:38PM
    • Who will be the next Opposition Leader from that lot? My money is on Shorten.

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 1:30PM
    • Union controlled senate seats? Really, that's a newbie.

      Commenter
      A country gal
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 1:30PM
    • Ummm ... Wong is in the Senate and 2nd on the SA Labor ticket.

      How will their commitment lead to what you wish to experience first hand?

      I suspect you will easily recognise their spin, being so able to spin yourself.

      /

      Commenter
      Julie
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 1:31PM
    • A country Gal
      Once again you are manipulating the message to ALP spin.
      You know very well all ALP pre selection spots are controlled by union party factions-dont act suprised-check your membership number deary!
      If you think it is an open opportunity to be pre selected then you must also beleve that the ALP saved us from the GFC .or the cheque is in the mail

      Commenter
      paulk
      Location
      melbourne
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 1:59PM
    • well deary paulk, I've never been a member of the ALP, so I can't check for any of your imaginary numbers.
      And you know exactly what I was referring to re the senators you mentioned as though they were lower house MPs.

      Commenter
      A country gal
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 2:32PM
    • All three Triple A ratings are under threat from Abbott..how long would it take him to destroy those ratings too?..i say one week.

      Commenter
      Steeden
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 2:40PM
    • So, the so called strength of Australia labor lay claim to making is falling apart. But it isn't labors fault, no way not ever.

      We need change and another round of labor taxes and failed schemes can wait another 4 to 8 years. We need the balance of the Libs after labour, then labor after the Libs have run there course.

      Julia Gillard got alot fight in her. But it's all to late. You led the country down a path and you don't know how to turn it around.

      Commenter
      Dave
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 3:29PM
  • Once The Greens have got rid of these nasty industries, mines and farms we can all get on with running our own eco tourism businesses in peace. Chinese tourist just love to watch some first class basket weaving.

    Greentopia, madness one day,
    lunacy the next.

    Commenter
    SteveH.
    Location
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 12:23PM
  • Conroy says one thing and then another when over ruled by his boss Gillard. Pity is, Gillard hasn't and won't discuss with the public and industry as she shelters in her bunker. Please God, can we have the election tomorrow?

    Commenter
    Tony of Kureelpa
    Location
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 12:18PM
  • "The Greens' deputy leader, Adam Bandt, is on his feet in the House of Representatives at the moment introducing a bill that would establish an independent Office of Animal Welfare."

    Meanwhile in QLD, the Greens would rather see cattle starve than be allowed to graze in national parks which are reserved for feral pigs it seems.

    Commenter
    Jimc
    Location
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 12:01PM
    • Please Jimc don't ever expect logic or consistency from the goofy greens.The beauty of never governing in your own right is you never get held accountable for your decisions.It's never been a REAL problem before now because until now they've never held power.Welcome to decisions without consequences...consequences for them anyway.

      Commenter
      Manon DeEdge
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 1:34PM
  • Yet again, the PM follows the same old path - mucking up something she is attempting to achieve and leaving herself wide open to criticism from within Labor ranks and ridicule from without. This should have been a no brainer for her to get right and as usual it is fast turning into yet another ham fisted Labor foray into governance of the gambling industry.With Conroy's involvement another right royal debacle is all but assured.

    Commenter
    Tim of Altona
    Location
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 11:54AM
    • Tim, there was no way to get it right. Do this and give these opposite the ability to say we'd have done more. Or go the whole hog and have those opposite cry overreaction.

      Commenter
      jofek
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 12:24PM
    • Hard to disagree Tim. I'm starting to wonder if there's not another agenda here.

      Live betting extends to political markets, and Gillard declared game on back in January, meaning we're at about half time now.

      Today the Tab have the ALP on $9.00 and the Coalition $1.05 (seems a bit low in a 2 horse race).

      Perhaps Gillard's planning to ban advertisements quoting the ALP's odds.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 12:35PM
    • @jofek
      "A faint heart never won a fair maiden"

      Commenter
      Jack
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 5:05PM
  • Australians spend $1 billion a year on pet food. At least 60% on dogs who belch out from their rear end muffler the equivalent to the pollution of an SUV driving around for a year per medium sized dog. Yet the loony lefties want to tax the average Aussie with the carbon tax whilst they sit at cafes sipping free trade soya lattees with their dogs who are causing as much environmental pollution as those nasty SUVs. Yes - the ALP/Greens have yet again displayed their complete double standards. Go figure. How's the cattle industry going up north today Adam Bandt?

    Commenter
    enough is enough
    Location
    Labor party/Greens La La Land
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 11:53AM
    • A medium sized dog expels the same as a medium sized SUV. Sounds interesting exactly what are they expelling and are there some statistics for this

      Commenter
      Jeromey
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 1:02PM
    • I seem to remember Mythbusters
      doing a show on this one, can't
      quite recall what the result was.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 2:20PM
    • Methane Jeremy, methane, the most insidious greenhouse gas of all

      Commenter
      Indolent
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 2:42PM
    • Yes humans and animals produce greenhouse gasses and carbon isn't the worst pollutant in the air we breath.

      Carbons easy to blame but there are other problems. Like the contents of a solar panel and the batteries that power electric cars are extremely dangerous and toxic.

      No matter what coal power is here to stay till a viable energy source is made that completely replaces it. So all this tax will do is line the governments pockets and not reduce much. Nuclear power is the way to go for Australia, cleaner and we have the prefect environment and land for it.

      Commenter
      Dave
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 3:36PM
  • p.s. Good on BOF for supporting this move as well...

    Commenter
    Riddley Walker
    Location
    Inland
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 11:46AM
  • Gillard once again demonstrates why she is (in general) a very good, strong Prime Minister.

    Commenter
    Riddley Walker
    Location
    Inland
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 11:45AM
  • 'Champion animal rights' luva a duck,
    wot about 'plants rights', dandelions have feelings too!

    I hope Mr. Whiskers doesn't turn into a Green.

    Commenter
    SteveH.
    Location
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 11:34AM
    • We absolutely need an Independent Office of Animal Welfare, but the Coalition doesn't give a toss about such things. Abbott wants live export to expand and sadly even the concerned ALP ministers and senators can't get traction on this issue due to vested interests and people turning a blind eye to barbarism.

      Commenter
      pol
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 11:53AM
    • No we don't, we don't need more red tape, more public servants, more expensive non-productive government bodies, and we don't need to tell other countries what to eat.

      This isn't a 'need' at all, its something that you 'want', there is a difference

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 12:31PM
  • It really doesn't matter what she and her fellow dolts do before September. They will be removed by a people tired of being lied to.

    Commenter
    Elijah Baley
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 11:29AM
    • counting your chickens before it is hatched are you

      Commenter
      ben
      Location
      vic
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 11:54AM
    • No matter which party is elected into government, the public will still be lied to. If you think otherwise, that's just naive. Will be interested to see if MSM will analyse critical issues if LNP do get elected.

      Commenter
      Traveller
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 12:27PM
    • Damn right - only problem is that I got sick and tired of being lied to by Howard and I'm still being lied to by Abbott, when do you think it might stop!? You really are a blinded fool my friend.

      Commenter
      Mark
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 4:41PM
  • The biggest gamble is voting for the party and wondering if they will keep their promises as well as which the better policies. If we ban betting ads then we would have to ban the politicians.

    Commenter
    Good Logic
    Location
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 11:01AM
  • Can Abbott do better than PM Julia Gillard
    By getting rid of 400 pokies machines from
    Catholic Clubs in my surburb Western Sydney. I will take my hat off for him.

    Commenter
    Old Mary
    Location
    Westies
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 10:42AM
    • Old mary
      not sure if he could - but he won't lie and say he can like someone else we know just to win an election

      Commenter
      pearl1
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 2:14PM
    • Don't bet.

      Commenter
      Urafknidiot
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 5:05PM
  • Yet again, another proactive reform initiated by the PM. This should at least let sports fans watch their sport and not be forced to listen to the incessant odds.
    One would trust the opposition will back Stephen Jones private members bill.
    Children should not be subjected to such.
    Well done.

    Commenter
    A country gal
    Location
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 10:39AM
    • The troubled PM making another pre-election move she should have done 1-2 years ago if it really meant anything to her. What are the odds on that?
      Guess that's why she ditched the pokies reform eh? Spare me.

      Commenter
      Spare me silly
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 11:38AM
  • Julia Gillard has now said she will remain in parliament for one more term after the election.
    She must have missed out on that Primary School Principal job she has been campaigning for over the last 4 weeks.

    Commenter
    notlad
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 10:27AM
    • Maybe Labor will let her drive the caucus mini-bus from the airport
      when next parliament sits.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 10:34AM
    • She actually said that she would serve a full term after the September 2013 election, which is not what this commenter has written.

      Commenter
      Julie
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 10:53AM
    • I'm looking forward to her next full term in Government ... should be good ...

      Commenter
      juileep
      Location
      sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 11:02AM
    • Yeah sure she will stay on just like Anna Bligh promised before her government got obliterated at the last state election.

      Commenter
      Cakeboss
      Location
      the Hills
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 11:04AM
    • Julie,

      Do you believe her?

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 11:10AM
    • BeasleySt - Yes, I believe her. She will be re-elected as the head of a majority government, so there would no need for the issue to be considered. I also believe her as she is not mendacious

      Commenter
      Julie
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 11:36AM
    • I'm with Julie ... I believe she will has an excellent chance to form another government and with good will from a more civil parliament continue to govern well for all of us ...

      Commenter
      juileep
      Location
      sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 11:54AM
    • The delusion of the 30% continues.

      Commenter
      adrian
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 12:51PM
    • @ Julie and Julieep,

      And she's going to deliver a surplus this year too....

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 12:59PM
    • Jules can always get a job servicing the FTL Alcubierre Drive on Bob Brown's spacecraft - heaven knows he owes her one.

      Commenter
      Smack
      Location
      City of the Fallen
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 1:21PM
    • honestly beasleyst if the PM cured cancer you'd bang on and on and moan and groan about her putting cancer researchers out of a job ... sheesh ...

      Commenter
      juileep
      Location
      sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 1:39PM
    • ALP deserves to head a proper government not a hung one, when they are blocked and pressured left, right and centre from minority parties from introducing their policies.

      Commenter
      Jules
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 3:42PM
    • Why would anyone want or expect a defeated PM to stay on? Why would anyone want any member of parliament to be there if the heart's not in it? Cut politicians a bit of slack on this one.

      Commenter
      beria
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 3:43PM
    • julieep,

      "honestly beasleyst if the PM cured cancer ..."

      I'd be checking the cure was real first.

      Commenter
      beasleyst
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 4:44PM
    • of course you would beasleyst ... and then you'd whine because you had to do some work ... and hate it up even more ... my sigh still stands ...

      Commenter
      juileep
      Location
      sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 5:01PM
  • If we're going down this path, we better make sure junk food and fizzy drink ads are also shielded away from the eyes of our precious possums, along with ads for local clubs like the Labor club (which feature pokies, keno and alcohol).

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 10:14AM
    • The wowser elite seems particularly affronted by gambling. I do not get it. I don't mind a flutter myself, on occasion.

      Commenter
      AdamC
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 10:29AM
    • Agreed AdamC. Whilst young Tom is definitely over exposed, the implications of restricting his right to advertise seems a bit much.

      If you use the kiddie argument, you have to ask how gambling is any different to other supposed "naughties". It all smacks of a free speech clampdown, like the one Conroy failed on in April.

      I've got a feeling this one will blow up once again due to Gillard's penchant for sound bites ahead of detail.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 11:21AM
    • Hacka, i would like to see ALL ads kept to the ad breaks, as i can channel surf instead of watching any ads.

      Commenter
      adam
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 11:48AM
    • I think a bit of the reason for the wowswerisms is because a large portion of commenters in here are retirees and pensioners who always like to rail against societies so called "evils"
      I like a flutter too and like most people i know can afford about $30 a week on saturday. The way some people go on you would think the house was being mortaged every week and that punters were wallowing in poverty to maintain their gambling hit. I think the real truth is far removed from that

      Commenter
      Jeromey
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 11:52AM
    • Hacka, great idea! We need to do like Sweden does and ban advertising of fast food to children. We have an obesely epidemic and huge gambling issues but you want to do nothing? What exactly is your problem with restricting some level of tv advertising? How are the social ills of fast food and gambling any different to drinking and smoking?

      How ‘bout we let them advertise smokes and beer to kids too? (Can I be allowed to ask irrelevant straw man arguments too?)

      Commenter
      QED
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 1:17PM
    • That's the point QED - how are gaming ads different to some of the other naughties ? It's the creep towards the nanny state that worries me, not the get Tom factor.

      Conroy seems to have worked out that TV and radio broadcasters may be influential during the election campaign. It's all staring to unravel quickly ....

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 2:12PM
    • The guys against the gambling restrictions are right, it is clearly an outrageous attempt to smash free speech. How can it be viewed any other way.
      It is absolutely crucial for our democracy that Tom W be allowed to offer live odds on anything at any time, from sport through to play school.
      He can sponsor the 'which window today' segment, although I'm betting that the odds you'd get would be worse than 2 to 1 against, which might mean the kiddies need a lesson about bookies making their margin, as well as actual probabilities.

      Commenter
      BuffAndroid
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 2:15PM
    • Hacka, your logic is really bad. You are suggesting that we allow one form of child abuse because we currently have other forms not banned either. That’s like suggesting that we should not have a law against bank robbery cos we don’t have one against shoplifting. Surely the right thing to do is restrict both?

      And the whole pretend fear of the ‘evil nanny state’ is a total beat up. That evil government who make us wear seat belts and not drive drunk! If you have an example of a nanny state law that does impose more restriction than it removes pain from society as a whole, then campaign against that specific law. The case against allowing gambling odds during children’s viewing times is rock solid with as far as I can see NO NEGATIVES only positives. (except that it didn’t go far enough)

      Yes, Conroy stopped short of doing it properly cos he must want to ‘keep some favour’ with the media. Why bother? Channel 9 has already decided on a winner for Sept.

      Commenter
      QED
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 2:57PM
    • and in 2007 they decided on Rudd

      Commenter
      adrian
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 3:57PM
    • QED - "child abuse" - goodness talk about hysteria. I'm not advocating or rejecting either, i'm asking the question of where the line is drawn.

      One thing this government is good at doing is telling us there's rock solid case for things, like the NBN, climate change, Gonski etc. Unfortunately the details of that case are often very elusive, or on the back of a beer coaster.

      So if you reckon there's a rock solid case here, how does that differ from the case to ban junk food adverts ?

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 4:05PM
  • Once again Conroy is "over-ruled". This is the guy in charge of the biggest ever infrastructure project in Australia.

    Commenter
    beasleyst
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 10:08AM
    • Its no wonder he got the job, Collingwood supporters are well
      known for their skills in personal communications,

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 10:42AM
    • Someone said elsewhere that Conroy will be Labor's most unlamented former minister when they lose office. Hope he leaves the Senate too (don't think he's up for election this time).

      Commenter
      beria
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 3:44PM
  • The networks agreed too quickly, meaning they already have a workaround. Advertising by bookies should be banned at the ground (on the fence and through the big screen), during all sporting broadcasts regardless of time of day, and commentary teams should not include bookmakers.

    Commenter
    Julie
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 10:00AM
  • Julia and the gang are good at creating positive 'noise' around the government by spewing out trivial policies they know the gallery will support. However, their own experiemce shows they need to get the basics right if they want the public to take them seriously as a government.

    Commenter
    AdamC
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 9:59AM
    • Trivial??? NDIS, Gonski, Ban on Smoking, Carbon Tax... Trivial??

      You are living in lala land mate.

      Commenter
      Sam
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 11:21AM
    • Sam: "carbon tax"? Definitely not trivial indeed. Such an egregious lie has never previously been perpetrated upon the Australian public.

      Commenter
      Davo
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 11:43AM
    • Sam??

      Ban on smoking? When did this happen? I think you mean the plain packaging debacle which does not cut to the root cause & was another typical 'nanny' measure by this incompetent lot.

      NDIS, Gonski, I'll applaud these when we know exactly how they are going to be funded & by exactly when? So far the ALP has been able to say it can do these things but has not been able to fund them appropriately, leaving the bill for the future generations & whoever governs after them?

      & the Carbon tax, what a crock!

      Commenter
      Indeed
      Location
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 12:41PM
    • I didn't say all the government's policies are trivial. Many of them are actually massive white elephants. I was simply highligting that this government tends to come up with lots of policy 'noise' to distract from its inability to actually run the country. (Its main job.)

      Gonski, the abuse Royal Commission and the apology to the 'forgotten Australians' are other examples of this strategy.

      Commenter
      AdamC
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 1:47PM
  • PM Gillard started the dice rolling, why can't
    The states Premiers continue from there
    Instead of whinging doesn't go far enough.
    It's take a Athiest female Leader to get it
    Rolling like the R.C. Hearing for child abuse
    And now this. BRAVO!

    Commenter
    Wendyv
    Location
    Date and time
    May 27, 2013, 9:59AM
    • Wendy - Good point... The conservatives who claim to be "Christians" are yet to legislate any decent social policy in our country....

      Their world starts and ends with "Me".

      Commenter
      Sam
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 10:41AM
    • Absolutely agree, O'Farrell never supported Poky reform doesn't want to remove gambling adds from sporting grounds and jumpers. Pure political Hubris from the states who never stick their heads on the line but love to snip at everyone else.

      Commenter
      Don
      Location
      Geleong
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 11:44AM
    • I don't think the states have any jurisdiction over the broadcast media. That is owned & regulated by the feds.

      Commenter
      Lewis from The Hills
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 27, 2013, 1:45PM
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