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Politics wrap: June 27, 2013

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Minister for Defence Stephen Smith has addressed Parliament to announce his resignation from federal politics.

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Let's have a look back on another tumultuous day:

  • Kevin Rudd was sworn in as Prime Minister by Governor-General Quentin Bryce;
  • Anthony Albanese will serve as deputy and Chris Bowen is the new Treasurer;
  • one of the more sordid episodes of the past three years - the Ashby affair - has reappeared;
  • Mr Rudd has said the election will not be on September 14 but has not said when it will be;
  • the Opposition is continuing to push for the date to be revealed; and
  • the 43rd Parliament of Australia has concluded (although the Senate will wrap some things up tomorrow).

A huge round of applause to Andrew Meares and Alex Ellinghausen for their amazing work capturing all the high and low points of this crazy place.

A big thanks to everyone who has read and participated in our coverage. It's a pleasure to share the journey with you.

Alex, Andrew and I will be back in the morning for a special Friday edition. Too much politics is never enough!

 

Deputy Prime Minister Anthony Albanese watches the Serjeant-At-Arms remove the Mace as the 43rd Parliament of Australia concludes on Thursday.

Deputy Prime Minister Anthony Albanese watches the Serjeant-At-Arms remove the Mace as the 43rd Parliament of Australia concludes on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Way back at 1.59pm I promised to come back and fill you in on what former speaker Peter Slipper said in his farewell speech to Parliament.

There has been a lot of claim and counter claim about what Mr Slipper said that took some time to clear up but I can now direct you to a full account. It is now here courtesy of breaking news reporter Jonathan Swan.

In a nutshell - billionaire wannabe politician Clive Palmer has backed allegations Mr Slipper made in Parliament that Coalition frontbencher Joe Hockey and former Howard government minister Mal Brough asked him (Mr Palmer) to pay the legal fees of Mr Slipper's former aide, James Ashby.

Mr Hockey has denied the allegations and demanded that Mr Slipper withdraw the suggestion that he was linked to the Ashby affair.

Mr Slipper told Parliament he recently had breakfast with Mr Palmer: "I do recall that Mr Palmer mentioned to me that ... about Easter last year [that] Mal Brough, accompanied by the member for North Sydney [Joe Hockey], came to see Mr Palmer to ask him to fund James Ashby's legal fees.

The Coalition will try to get an upper hand in the asylum seeker debate with immigration spokesman Scott Morrison to fly to Indonesia tonight.

Former prime minister Julia Gillard announced last week she would travel to Indonesia in July but Kevin Rudd has yet to say whether he will go.

Mr Morrison will not meet politicians but will instead meet with police and customs officials.

Breaking news reporter Jonathan Swan has the story.

 

That's it for the 43rd Parliament. It has been adjourned (although the Senate sits tomorrow to tidy up some loose ends).

Leader of the house Anthony Albanese signs off: "Whatever people might say it has been a functional Parliament....I hope we have more civility in Australian politics ... I look forward to that in the 44th Parliament."

Speaker Anna Burke: "The house stands adjourned."

(Fade to black.)

Julia Gillard bows to the speaker as she departs the House of Representatives on Thursday.

Julia Gillard bows to the speaker as she departs the House of Representatives on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Mr Garrett acknowledges the work former Greens leader Bob Brown did for the environment but says Labor is the party that achieved the most.

He thanks Ms Gillard for moving him out of the environment portfolio into education: "Let's face it, it was a no-win situation [having him in the environment portfolio]. 50 per cent of the Australian population wanted me to do much more, 50 per cent wanted me to do much less."

Mr Garrett says one of the first things he learned about politics when he first sat in the House of Representatives was that "Kim Beazley has a very loud voice".

"It doesn't matter where you come from or what you come from, you start from the ground up," Mr Garrett says.

Both Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and former prime minister Julia Gillard are in the chamber.

Mr Garrett says he is most proud of what Labor has achieved on climate change even if it is "too small and over too long a period of time" (in relation to targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions).

 

 

Labor MP Craig Emerson takes credit for rating a mention for his singing from Labor MP Peter Garrett during his valedictory speech on Thursday.

Labor MP Craig Emerson takes credit for rating a mention for his singing from Labor MP Peter Garrett during his valedictory speech on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Former education minister Peter Garrett says he will only make a "brief valedictory".

Mr Garrett says he wants to begin by thanking the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people for their "forebearance" while watching their culture and rights being eroded over the years.

Mr Garrett chokes up while thanking his wife and three daughters.

He thanks his staff for being his "arms and legs" and sometimes his brain.

"I came into this place, previously a front man, to become a team player," Mr Garrett says.

Mr Garrett says it has been a matter of "constant bemusement" to the press gallery that he won't "jump on his desk and play air guitar" or "come into the chamber and quote my own lyrics".

He says he has "too much respect" for his previous career before joining in with the laughs from the chamber.

"You don't come here for self interest but the public interest," Mr Garrett says. "You hope that you can make a contribution."

 

 

A farewell tweet from former communications minister Stephen Conroy (warning - it contains Dr Who related material):

Our main story of the day - who's in, who's out, where is Labor going and how is the Coalition reacting - has just been updated.

You can find it here.

Meanwhile contenders for former prime minister Julia Gillard's soon to be former seat of Lalor are emerging. It's a good one to have - and there are plenty of seats being vacated at the moment.

 

Former education minister Peter Garrett will give his valedictory speech at 4.30 pm.

(Former prime minister Julia Gillard will not be giving one. Craig Emerson may also choose not to give one.)

Mr Rudd and Mr Abbott are facing off in Parliament after Mr Abbott moved a matter of public importance on "the urgent need for a clear and united plan to deliver a stronger Australia and a better future".

Mr Abbott clarifies his position on the debate (see 3.53pm post) saying he is happy to participate so long as Mr Rudd names the date for the election.

Mr Rudd declines to do so.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during question time on Thursday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during question time on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has challenged Opposition Leader Tony Abbott to a debate about the debt and deficit at the National Press Club.

Mr Abbott appears to have agreed.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott listens Prime Minister Kevin Rudd in Parliament on Thursday.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott listens Prime Minister Kevin Rudd in Parliament on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Here is the video from question time where Prime Minister Kevin Rudd keeps his options open when it comes to the election date.

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Prime Minister Kevin Rudd tells parliament he has not yet decided on the date for the election.

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And the view from the other side ...

Labor MPs Craig Emerson, Wayne Swan and Julia Gillard leave the House of Representatives on Thursday.

Labor MPs Craig Emerson, Wayne Swan and Julia Gillard leave the House of Representatives on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Julia Gillard and Wayne swan depart question time on Thursday.

Julia Gillard and Wayne swan depart question time on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Julia Gillard leaves what was her last question time accompanied by Wayne Swan and Craig Emerson.

Anthony Albanese rises to thank Mr Smith and notes his reputation as a bit of alright around Parliament House.

"You are an adornment to the Parliament," Mr Albanese says. "You are a class act".

Former speaker Harry Jenkins jumps up to mimic Mr Smith's well-known routine that he goes through before rising in the chamber - straightens his cuffs, checks his tie and smooths his hair.

 

Labor MP Stephen Smith is congratulated by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on Thursday.

Labor MP Stephen Smith is congratulated by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on Thursday.

Mr Smith says he saw "more deaths" during his time as defence minister than any other since the Vietnam War.

Mr Smith says he looked into the eyes of two chiefs of the defence force and saw "integrity and decency".

Mr Smith also thanks the cleaners of Parliament House who, he says, were always around early in the mornings and late at night when he was pacing the corridors.

On his first day as a staffer, Mr Smith says he showed up and no one was around except for the cleaners who advised him: "Oh no darling, it's much too early for them, go down to Aussies and have a coffee."

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd stands up to applaud Mr Smith and he is then kissed by ministers Tanya Plibersek and Jenny Macklin.

Mr Rudd jokes about Mr Smith's well known characteristics of discipline and organisation.

The way to "get under his skin", Mr Rudd says, is to "twist slightly" his "impeccably organised set of papers".

This results in his "entire visual universe [being turned] on its head," Mr Rudd says. "So, Smithy, we love you for that because you've even more annally rententive than I am."

Labor MP Stephen Smith is congratulated by former prime minister Julia Gillard  after delivering his valedictory speech in the House of Representatives  on Thursday.

Labor MP Stephen Smith is congratulated by former prime minister Julia Gillard after delivering his valedictory speech in the House of Representatives on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Mr Smith says he remains good friends with Anthony Albanese, who he says has been "a Labor hero" and also pays tribute to "Jenny Mack" (Jenny Macklin) - "I can't look at her, she'll make me cry".

And Stephen Conroy - "Stephen Conroy is misunderstood by many", Mr Smith says to laughs, and calls him "the bravest man" for sticking by his principles.

Mr Smith then pays tribute to Wayne Swan, who he says did more than anyone else to put the party in a winning position in 2007.

 

Defence Minister Stephen Smith in the House of Representatives on Thursday.

Defence Minister Stephen Smith in the House of Representatives on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Question time is over.

Defence Minister Stephen Smith stands to announce he resigning from politics.

His voice is shaky.

"Twenty years I can do, 23 years I cannot," says Mr Smith, who faced a difficult job keeping his Western Australian seat of Perth.

Mr Smith pays tribute to both Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and former prime minister Julia Gillard.

He is proud of his achievements but mostly the "strategic elegance" of the defence white paper he released earlier this year and the stand he has taken on women in the defence forces, he says.

He will remain Defence Minister until the election.

 

 

The opposition is trying to raise the issue of the home insulation program.

(Bear with me for a quick history lesson. The installation of home insulation was part of Prime Minister Rudd's economic stimulus package and led to allegations it had been implemented too quickly, that unqualified installers were able to rort the system and that four people died as a result of faulty installation. It was later revealed that Mr Rudd was warned by the department and the minister at the time, Peter Garrett, that the program was rolled out too quickly and was not properly overseen.)

Mr Rudd - after the opposition is directed to rephrase the question - refers people back to the debate that happened at the time and says he regrets "any industrial death in this country".

 

 

The opposition is trying to flush out Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on some of the things he might change.

Such as the carbon price, for example.

Mr Rudd replies by saying he "has long been committed to the carbon price".

Note Mr Rudd's body language when he is being asked a question by the opposition. He has resumed his habit of bowing his head and studiously looking at his notes.

 

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during question time on Thursday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during question time on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Opposition treasury spokesman, Joe Hockey, asks Mr Rudd if he can commit to the savings and spendings contained in the May 14 budget.

Mr Rudd replies that he will have briefings from the Treasury and discuss the budget with the cabinet when it meets next week.

(Parliament has already passed the legislation to do with the budget.)

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during question time on Thursday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during question time on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Keen eyed observers and people with long memories may remember a quirk of Kevin Rudd way back when he was opposition leader - he had a habit of gesticulating with all fingers but the middle one down. It unfortunately made him look like he was making a rude gesture every time he did it, which was often. Over time Mr Rudd managed to tame that habit.

But it looks like old habits die hard and the middle finger is back.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during question time on Thursday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during question time on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Even the government's language has changed what with the new leader and all.

Gone are question time catch phrases such as "cuts to the bone" and "mendacious" and in with talk of "old politics" and "new politics" (which are straight out of the play book of US President Barack Obama).

Treasurer Chris Bowen takes his first question since he assumed the portfolio but the opposition is more interested in probing the issue of Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's trustworthiness.

Manager of opposition business, Christopher Pyne, asks Mr Rudd how the Australian people can believe that if they vote for him at the election he will remain as prime minister given the events following the 2007 and 2010 elections (remember Opposition Leader Tony Abbott started pushing this line last night - it's going to become very familiar).

Mr Rudd deflects - again - and notes he had not yet been asked a question about policy.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during question time on Thursday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during question time on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

The opposition is pushing Prime Minister Kevin Rudd about his trustworthiness (as you and Mr Rudd would have been expecting).

Mr Rudd is pushing back against all the questions and asks: "Are we going to degenerate into the old politics of negativity ... or whether we have some chance of the politics of hope?"

Quite a few people have a different perspective on question time today.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd just referred to the backbench as the "nether regions" of the chamber.

Former ministers Greg Combet, Craig Emerson and Peter Garrett on the back bench as Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the House of Representatives on Thursday.

Former ministers Greg Combet, Craig Emerson and Peter Garrett on the back bench as Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the House of Representatives on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

And what about last night, Mr Abbott reminds Mr Rudd.

Mr Rudd reminds Mr Abbott that he faced John Howard, Brendan Nelson, Malcolm Turnbull and Tony Abbott - "four leaders in four years".

"These are matters for internal party consideration in his party and ours," Mr Rudd says.

Former prime minister Julia Gillard is in the chamber and sitting on the backbench.

Labor MP Julia Gillard takes her seat on the backbench for question time on Thursday.

Labor MP Julia Gillard takes her seat on the backbench for question time on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Question time.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott asks Prime Minister Kevin Rudd to "explain the events of last night" and to "end the uncertainty" to do with the timing of the election.

Mr Rudd invites Mr Abbott to look at the constitution and says he will act "in accordance" with the constitution when it comes to the election date.

Mr Rudd points out there is a G20 meeting in Russia on September 6 and 7, the fact that the existing election date rests on Yom Kippur (September 14) and the issue of the timing of the local government referendum.

Mr Rudd assures Mr Abbott that the date will not change very much (which is a concession that it will change a little bit).

Independent MP Peter Slipper is making a "precautionary" valedictory speech (so called because he is contesting the election).

Forgive me if I wait until after question time to update you on what Mr Slipper said.

 

Peter Slipper in Parliament House in on Thursday.

Peter Slipper in Parliament House in on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Ms Gillard also has a chance to hug independent MP Tony Windsor.

Labor MP Julia Gillard kisses Independent MP Tony Windsor after Rob Oakeshott's valedictory speech on Thursday.

Labor MP Julia Gillard kisses Independent MP Tony Windsor after Rob Oakeshott's valedictory speech on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Mr Oakeshott concludes by saying he has been shocked to meet "ugly Australia" during the past three years.

"I remember sitting on the back of a bus in Broken Hill on an NBN trip and we all swapped stories about crazy emails," Mr Oakeshott says.

"I can't believe that this is a view that's held in Australia today. It's off its lead; we've got to do something about it. And if it takes a few of us to fall on swords to fix it then so be it. The nation needs to deal with it. I have been shocked, frankly, over the last three years to meet ugly Australia and to see the width and depth of ugly Australia."

Mr Oakeshott finishes with a plea for people not to allow "the fringe" to take over "the middle".

Labor MP Julia Gillard during Independent MP Rob Oakeshott's valedictory speech on Thursday.

Labor MP Julia Gillard during Independent MP Rob Oakeshott's valedictory speech on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Walk on by.

Deputy Prime Minister Anthony Albanese walks past Labor MP Julia Gillard during Independent MP Rob Oakeshott's valedictory speech on Thursday.

Deputy Prime Minister Anthony Albanese walks past Labor MP Julia Gillard during Independent MP Rob Oakeshott's valedictory speech on Thursday.

Mr Oakeshott is paying tribute to Ms Gillard: "I can only form my judgements on what's available to me ... I am going to say that through my eyes, a person who I knew a bit about as education minister and deputy prime minister but then got to know very well over these years because we had to, upheld her part of the agreement."

"I say dip my lid and say 'well done prime minister'," Mr Oakeshott says to Ms Gillard.

Mr Oakeshott says "I hope you got my text" ans asks if she would mind if he shared its contents.

Ms Gillard nods 'yes'.

Mr Oakeshott texted Ms Gillard about 10 minutes before yesterday's caucus meeting saying: "Your father would be proud of you".

Tears appear in Ms Gillard's eyes.

Many people appreciate Mr Oakeshott's good nature:

 

Their expressions say it all, don't they? Former speaker Peter Slipper kisses former prime minister Julia Gillard while a concerned looking Kirsten Livermore watches.

Mr Oakeshott is still giving his farewell speech. He keeps having to apologise for referring to Ms Gillard as the prime minister.

Independent MP Peter Slipper kisses Labor MP Julia Gillard during Independent MP Rob Oakeshott's valedictory speech on Thursday.

Independent MP Peter Slipper kisses Labor MP Julia Gillard during Independent MP Rob Oakeshott's valedictory speech on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Ms Gillard listens to Mr Oakeshott. Ms Gillard is sitting next to Kirsten Livermore who is also retiring at the election.

Labor MP Julia Gillard during Independent MP Rob Oakeshott's valedictory speech on Thursday.

Labor MP Julia Gillard during Independent MP Rob Oakeshott's valedictory speech on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Former prime minister Julia Gillard.

That's all, folks: Labor MP Julia Gillard thanks Independent MP Rob Oakeshott during his valedictory speech on Thursday.

That's all, folks: Labor MP Julia Gillard thanks Independent MP Rob Oakeshott during his valedictory speech on Thursday.

Independent Rob Oakeshott is now making his valedictory speech to the House of Representatives.

He notes the "ironies" Parliament has just presented - such as his two-year-old son, Ben, calling out "hurry up" from the public gallery and opposition spokesman Scott Morrison trying to force Parliament to hear his speech (see 12.52pm post).

Mr Oakeshott says he thought long and hard about the timing of his speech. Mr Oakeshott is known for, how shall I say this nicely, taking a while to come to the point (most notably during a press conference after the 2010 election when it took him 17 minutes to say whether or not he supported Julia Gillard).

However, Mr Oakeshott, says he went with the impulse that says "when you've got the microphone, use it".

Everyone will just have to "suffer" and hear him out, he says.

Mr Oakeshott says he is "tired" and it's time to go.

Former prime minister Julia Gillard has entered the chamber to listen to Mr Oakeshott (from the backbench).

Independent MP Rob Oakeshott delivers his valedictory speech  in  Parliament on Thursday.

Independent MP Rob Oakeshott delivers his valedictory speech in Parliament on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The 457 visa changes have been passed by the House of Representatives (73 votes to 72).

The 457 visa changes are almost through the House of Representatives. We are very close to the very final vote now (all procedural votes taking place up to now indicate it will go through).

Look you have to understand the context of the Nelson Mandela remarks. I was under a lot of strain....

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Minister Gary Gray during a division in the House of Representatives on Thursday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Minister Gary Gray during a division in the House of Representatives on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

I'm pretty sure this isn't the mysterious petition for the caucus meeting that set things off yesterday.

Workplace Relations Minister Bill Shorten and Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during a division in the House of Representatives  on Thursday.

Workplace Relations Minister Bill Shorten and Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during a division in the House of Representatives on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The vote on the 457 visa bill is now being counted.

This is after opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison tried - unsuccessfully - to suspend standing orders to allow independent MP Rob Oakeshott to give his valedictory speech (which would have made Mr Oakeshott a kind of Coalition human shield).

I can confirm former prime minister Julia Gillard is not in the chamber.

A spokesman for the chief government whip, Chris Hayes, says the opposition granted Ms Gillard a pair (which means an opposition MP will also sit out of them chamber so as not to affect any votes).

Former treasurer Wayne Swan is in the chamber.

Defence Minister Stephen Smith sits with new Labor backbenchers Wayne Swan, Greg Combet and Craig Emerson during a division in the House of Representatives on Thursday.

Defence Minister Stephen Smith sits with new Labor backbenchers Wayne Swan, Greg Combet and Craig Emerson during a division in the House of Representatives on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

New best friends.

Home Affairs Minister Jason Clare, Workplace Relations Minister Bill Shorten and Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during a division in the House of Representatives on Thursday.

Home Affairs Minister Jason Clare, Workplace Relations Minister Bill Shorten and Prime Minister Kevin Rudd during a division in the House of Representatives on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The video of Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's address to Parliament and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's response.

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Neither former prime minister Julia Gillard or former treasurer Wayne Swan were in the chamber for Mr Rudd's statement.

Former ministers Greg Combet, Craig Emerson and Peter Garrett, however, took their places on the backbench.

Former ministers Greg Combet, Craig Emerson and Peter Garrett on the back bench as Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the House of Representatives on Thursday.

Former ministers Greg Combet, Craig Emerson and Peter Garrett on the back bench as Prime Minister Kevin Rudd speaks to the House of Representatives on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Oops.

Resources and Energy Minister Gary Gray is speaking incredibly quickly as he seeks to make a statement to the chamber about a, ahem, misguided statement he made last night.

Mr Gray told a Minerals Council of Australia dinner that former South African president Nelson Mandela had died (which he had not).

Mr Gray is very hurriedly apologising to the House and says he has already apologised to the South African High Commissioner.

Leader of the house Anthony Albanese has moved a motion to make the debate on the proposed changes to the 457 visa program the main order of business for the House of Representatives today.

The opposition is complaining.

Mr Abbott: "This is a fraught moment in the life of our nation. A prime minister has been brought down. Her replacement owes an explanation."

Speaker Anna Burke warns Mr Abbott about the turn his speech has taken.

Mr Abbott finishes by demanding to know the election date.

 

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott rises to congratulate Mr Rudd "for returning to the high office which he formerly occupied and which he's been dreaming of returning to for three years".

Mr Abbott asks Mr Rudd to "elevate" the office of prime minister by explaining to people "the events of last night" and calling on him to name the election date.

Mr Rudd says politics can be brutal and asks MPs to remember that "in this Parliament, in this place we are all human beings".

"Try, just try to be a little kinder and gentler to each other."

And that's it for Mr Rudd.

Deputy Opposition Leader Julie Bishop kisses Prime Minister Kevin Rudd in the House of Representatives  on Thursday.

Deputy Opposition Leader Julie Bishop kisses Prime Minister Kevin Rudd in the House of Representatives on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Stephen Smith, Jenny Macklin, Tanya Plibersek and Mark Dreyfus are all sitting on the front bench. I think we can assume they are going to stick with their jobs.

Mr Rudd tells the house the "existing ministerial arrangements" will remain the same for the time being.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd in the House of Representatives on Thursday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd in the House of Representatives on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd informs the chamber that he was appointed Labor leader last night and that he has now been sworn in by the Governor-General.

Mr Rudd acknowledges the contribution made by former prime minister Julia Gillard particularly her achievements in education, industrial relations and "her great work as a standard bearer for women in this country".

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd in the House of Representatives on Thursday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd in the House of Representatives on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The bells are ringing to call MPs into the House of Representatives.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has just entered the chamber. Opposition Leader Tony Abbott and Deputy Opposition Leader Julie Bishop have walked across the chamber to congratulate him.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is congratulated by Opposition Leader Tony Abbott  and deputy Julie Bishop in the House of Representatives on Thursday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is congratulated by Opposition Leader Tony Abbott and deputy Julie Bishop in the House of Representatives on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is due to address the House of Representatives at noon.

In the meantime, let me direct you to a couple of different analyses about where things are.

The national convenor of Emily's List Australia (formed to help promote Labor women), Tanja Kovac, has written about how the "trailblazing political heroine", Julia Gillard, will be remembered.

The Age's education editor, Jewel Topsfield, looks at what will happen to the education reforms now that their main promoters - Julia Gillard and Peter Garrett - have stepped down.

Forget all this talk of no-confidence motions in Parliament - Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has repeated the commitment he made last night not to call one.

Labor MP Bill Shorten departs the press gallery after a radio interview on Thursday.

Labor MP Bill Shorten departs the press gallery after a radio interview on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The office of the Governor-General, Quentin Bryce, has made available the letters written by Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd, advising Ms Bryce of their changing circumstances.

You can see the letters here.

The machinery of prime ministership and campaigning has swung into action quickly.

Already the official website of the Prime Minister - www.pm.gov.au - has been updated to reflect the new occupant.

The Labor Party is already putting out the calls for volunteers to help out in the upcoming campaign (which we may be in sooner than we were planning).

 

 

The national secretary of the Australian Labor Party, George Wright, says party members wanted the federal party to "re-energise" and "unite" under Kevin Rudd.

Mr Wright, who is the ALP's chief campaign manager and used to work for Mr Rudd when he was first prime minister, congratulated Mr Rudd and said he thought he could lead Labor to victory.

Mr Wright also paid tribute to Ms Gillard for her policy achievements.

"It's a sunny day in Australia," says newly sworn-in Prime Minister Kevin Rudd when asked on the steps of Government House how he feels.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd embraces Deputy Prime Minister Anthony Albanese after photos are taken at Government House on Thursday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd embraces Deputy Prime Minister Anthony Albanese after photos are taken at Government House on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

There has been much speculation surrounding the fate of the proposed changes to the 457 visa program (including my own in the 10.20am post).

However it appears to be back on the agenda.

A spokesman for Prime Minister Kevin Rudd told reporter Daniel Hurst a few minutes ago: "Our plan is to conclude that piece of legislation today."

Bear in mind the House of Representatives does not resume until 12pm, question time will take place at 2pm, the bill's passage through the House is not certain and today is the last day the House will sit.

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose, hey?

Other people like Community Services Minister Jenny Macklin and Health Minister Tanya Plibersek are keeping quiet.

Breaking news reporter Judith Ireland has updated our main story covering the day's events here.

David Wroe and Daniel Hurst have also been keeping track of the ministerial comings and goings.

So what will the new Labor line up look like?

Kevin Rudd, Anthony Albanese and Chris Bowen are at the apex. Bill Shorten is still there. So are Penny Wong and Tony Burke.

Senator Wong told ABC Radio National this morning her decision to support Mr Rudd was not because of his position on gay marriage (Mr Rudd is now the first prime minister to have a pro same-sex marriage stance).

Senator Wong said she had to "weigh that personal loyalty [to Ms Gillard] against loyalty to the Labor Party and to the people we represent" and eventually decided it was in the party's, and country's best interest to support Mr Rudd.

Stephen Conroy, Wayne Swan, Peter Garrett and Joe Ludwig have all gone.

Senator Conroy resigned by tweet late last night.

 

 

 

Mr Rudd's first policy decision appears to be dumping the changes Julia Gillard wanted to make to the 457 visa program.

The bill has been in and out of Parliament over the past 10 days. Last night it was listed for debate on a draft schedule for business to be discussed by the House of Representatives this morning. But the bill is no longer listed on the latest notice paper.

The bill wanted to compel employers show they had gone to all lengths to ensure vacant jobs were offered to Australians before they employed someone from overseas. Unions were in favour but business was not.

 

Mr Rudd has now left Government House and is on his way back to Parliament House where he will make a statement to the House of Representatives at 12 pm.

Now that he is Prime Minster Mr Rudd is travelling in the official car - C1.

Deputy Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, Governor-General Quentin Bryce, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Treasurer Chris Bowen at Government House on Thursday morning.

Deputy Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, Governor-General Quentin Bryce, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Treasurer Chris Bowen at Government House on Thursday morning. Photo: Andrew Meares

The Rudd and Albanese families with Governor-General, Quentin Bryce.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd with his family and Governor General Quentin Bryce at Government House after he was sworn in with Deputy Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Treasurer Chris Bowen in Canberra on Thursday 27 June 2013. Photo: Andrew Meares

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd with his family and Governor General Quentin Bryce at Government House after he was sworn in with Deputy Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Treasurer Chris Bowen in Canberra on Thursday 27 June 2013. Photo: Andrew Meares Photo: Andrew Meares

Babies always steal the show.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd tickles his granddaughter Joesphine with the Governor General Quentin Bryce and his wife Therese Rein at Government House  on Thursday.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd tickles his granddaughter Joesphine with the Governor General Quentin Bryce and his wife Therese Rein at Government House on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

While we wait for the official photographs to come in let me update you on some comments Workplace Relations Minister Bill Shorten has just made on radio.

Mr Shorten told Fairfax Media he was not a traitor after he changed his support from former prime minister Julia Gillard to the now Prime Minister Kevin Rudd (Mr Shorten was instrumental in installing Ms Gillard in the top job back in June 2010).

Mr Shorten says his decision was "incredibly difficult". He had been thinking about it for weeks but only made up his mind after Ms Gillard called the caucus room meeting.

Mr Shorten only spoke to Mr Rudd about the leadership this week and believes he has changed, that he will act in a more consultative fashion in the future.

Labor MP Bill Shorten during a radio interview in the press gallery at Parliament House on Thursday.

Labor MP Bill Shorten during a radio interview in the press gallery at Parliament House on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

It doesn't take long to officially become Prime Minister.

Official photographs are now being taken.

It's a bit like getting married - the photos tend to take longer than the actual serious business end of matters.

Mr Rudd has been sworn in as Australia's 28th Prime Minister.

He promises Governor-General Quentin Bryce to "do my absolute best".

Mr Rudd kisses his wife Therese Rein before inviting "Anthony Norman Albanese" to step forward and take the oath.

Mr Albanese has now been sworn in.

"Christopher Miles Bowen" is sworn in as Treasurer.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Governor General Quentin Bryce at Government House after Mr Rudd's swearing in.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and Governor General Quentin Bryce at Government House after Mr Rudd's swearing in. Photo: Andrew Meares

The swearing in ceremony is beginning.

Kevin Rudd, Anthony Albanese and Chris Bowen will each be sworn in, then read out the oath of office and then complete the relevant paperwork.

"The baby's fine but please turn mobiles off," the secretary to the Governor-General, Stephen Brady, tells the audience while Mr Rudd's granddaughter Josephine makes herself heard.

"She'll [the Governor-General] be thrilled with the baby so please don't worry if she makes a noise."

Albert Tse kisses his daughter Joesphine while waiting for Kevin Rudd to be sworn in as Prime Minister at Government House on Thursday morning.

Albert Tse kisses his daughter Joesphine while waiting for Kevin Rudd to be sworn in as Prime Minister at Government House on Thursday morning. Photo: Andrew Meares

Deputy prime minister elect Anthony Albanese arrives in the room where he will take the oath of office. He is accompanied by his wife, Carmel Tebbutt, the former deputy Labor leader of NSW, and their son Nathan.

Deputy Prime Minister elect Anthony Albanese with his family at Government House on Thursday.

Deputy Prime Minister elect Anthony Albanese with his family at Government House on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

A Bible sits on a chair waiting for Mr Rudd inside Government House. Mr Rudd will swear his oath of office on the Bible.

Mr Rudd's wife, Therese Rein, has arrived with the couple's younger son, Marcus. The couple's daughter, Jessica, is also there with her husband Albert Tse and their daughter Josephine.

A Bible sits on the chair for Mr Rudd at Government House on Thursday morning.

A Bible sits on the chair for Mr Rudd at Government House on Thursday morning. Photo: Andrew Meares

Mr Rudd has arrived at Government House.

He is being driven in a white sedan although not C1 - the car of the prime minister (C1 is its licence plate).

Anthony Albanese will also be there to be sworn in as Deputy Prime Minister and Chris Bowen will be sworn in as Treasurer.

For people who would like to read the transcripts of the statements made by the main players last night, let me show you where they are.

Mr Rudd's can be found here.

Mr Albanese's can be found here.

Mr Abbott's can be found here.

(We are still waiting for one from Ms Gillard and will let you know when it is available. Ms Gillard was spotted having a coffee at the Parliament House cafe, Aussie's, earlier this morning, something she hasn't had time for in a while.)

Mr Rudd has just left Parliament House for Government House.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott does breakfast television interviews on the lawns of Parliament House  on Thursday morning.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott does breakfast television interviews on the lawns of Parliament House on Thursday morning. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The House of Representatives will not sit until midday today. (The Senate sits at 9.30am.)

At that time Mr Rudd is expected to make a statement to the House.

(According to the draft schedule for the House sent out last night the first item of consideration was to have been the proposed changes to the 457 visa program. That has, obviously, been superseded by events. What will happen to that legislation is anyone's guess although it is safe to assume the government's focus last night was not on securing support.)

Reporter Daniel Hurst has been busy looking at all the possible scenarios that could play out today. It's worth reading to give yourself some background to all the constitutional hypotheticals that are being bandied about.

Here is an updated list of where the independents stand on the possibility of a no confidence motion (although Opposition Leader Tony Abbott is continuing to indicate he is not interested in pursuing that option).

 

A Julia Gillard supporter in front of Parliament House on Thursday.

A Julia Gillard supporter in front of Parliament House on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

There is much discussion about what could happen today - will Kevin Rudd be able to form government, will he go straight to an election - all of it based on the unusual combination we have of a minority government with less than one day of Parliament to go before a scheduled election.

The Governor-General, Quentin Bryce, has released her legal advice from the Acting Solicitor-General, Robert Orr.

Based on that advice, Her Excellency's view is that she should confirm Mr Rudd as prime minister as soon as possible in order for him to announce his appointment to the House of Representatives and allow it the "opportunity for whatever, if any, action it chooses to take".

Her Excellency's official secretary, Stephen Brady, has released this letter confirming the position of the Governor-General.

The morning after the night before. What will happen? Kevin Rudd will be sworn in as prime minister by the Governor-General, Quentin Bryce, at 9.30 am. After that, well, we will have to wait and see.

Join me, Andrew Meares and Alex Ellinghausen for another big day in federal politics.

Prime Minister elect Kevin Rudd leaves his Canberra hotel on Thursday morning.

Prime Minister elect Kevin Rudd leaves his Canberra hotel on Thursday morning. Photo: Andrew Meares

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  • Mal Brough - the gift that keeps giving

    "Clive Palmer has backed allegations Peter Slipper has made in Parliament that Liberals Joe Hockey and Mal Brough requested the billionaire pay the legal fees of Mr Slipper's former aide James Ashby."

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/slipper-allegations-link-hockey-to-ashby-20130627-2ozof.html#ixzz2XOtl5NlV

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    Jimmy G
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    June 27, 2013, 5:47PM
  • Well you have to say us queenslanders are a very resilient mob.....thursday out comes krudd and cleans them up for PM, followed by the moroons in a devistating display against NSW. Then for good measure,today in Bali, world champion surfer Joel Parkinson wins the Oakley Pro....the trifecta...Just how good are we? Sensational !!!

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    bob
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    June 27, 2013, 5:41PM
  • That angry loudmouth Scott Morrison is off to Indonesia - great idea : plenty of photo ops , no messy meeting with the politicians who actually make the laws : "Mr Morrison will instead be meeting with police, customs and the agencies responsible for running detention facilities"

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/morrison-to-visit-indonesia-20130627-2ozn8.html#ixzz2XOo5RgGr

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    Jimmy G
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    June 27, 2013, 5:29PM
  • Mum, what's a banana republic?

    Commenter
    huon03
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    Canberra
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 5:28PM
    • A country that pretends to be a democracy but isn't,where one of its main parties is so far right its fallen over the edge, and elects numb skulls like Reagan and GW Bush.
      Any more clues needed?

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      Wal
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      June 27, 2013, 6:01PM
  • Given enough time , Gillard/Swan might have borrowed to single handedly reduce technical unemployment to zero via hiring 700,000 more public servants! By private sector efficiency and effectiveness standards, some not insubstantial portion of the public service payroll could be argued to be not that dissimilar to welfare. That's ok, if that's what people want but I don't know if you do long term.

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    us1jacck
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    June 27, 2013, 5:25PM
  • Is Bill rten now the ALP's version of Brittney Spears..."Oops, I did it again"???

    Commenter
    SRJ
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    June 27, 2013, 5:19PM
  • ABC's new series of Kitchen Cabinet due to start next week. May have to be retitled now.

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    EI
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    June 27, 2013, 5:15PM
  • Thank you Stephanie & Team for all you have done to bring politics & the workings of the big house to us, It has been much appreciated & enlightening.
    Now, what do we do with ourselves to wile away these cold, wet & windy days??

    Commenter
    Rosie
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    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 5:14PM
  • Backstabbing for 3 years and the fools reward him with the top jog. Says a lot for Labor and where it is headed.

    Commenter
    Jean
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    Brisbane
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 5:11PM
  • Yesterday's Pulse, Gillard was PM. Today's Pulse it's Rudd. Next Pulse it could well be Abbott.

    Pulsating couple of days. Thanks Stephanie and Team - see you after the election - unless something else crazy happens.

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    Hacka
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    Canberra
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 5:08PM
  • Is there any truth in the rumour that LNP members - Abbott inclided - are encouraging thei daughters to take up career politics?

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    Blanik
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    Northern Country
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 5:06PM
  • I guess now that Parliament has finished for the year shoppers will be busy stocking up prior the election to avoid meeting up with the likes of Kev at their local shopping centers. Kev would probably put this down as a "recession" in the coming weeks. :)

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    timjackelton
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    June 27, 2013, 5:05PM
  • Time to go Smith and no love lost for this "Rooster". I remember after Rudd's no show in March, he went ballistic seeking the heads of those who supported Rudd. The manner in which he conducted his witch hunt cry on the airwaves seeking revenge made me ponder about how such intelligent people can be so idiotic and blind to what was unfolding before their very eyes - that Gillard was leading them over the cliff to a sure political death.

    Commenter
    GSM
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    Chatswood. NSW
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 5:05PM
  • Q & A will be interesting to watch over the next few weeks...how long before Rudd jumps in there???

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    jackson
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    Jakarta
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:59PM
    • Well its been 3 years since Abbott was on and he still refuses to front up so who knows.

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      Qued and Ayed
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      June 27, 2013, 5:44PM
  • “Mr Garrett says it has been a matter of "constant bemusement" to the press gallery that he won't "jump on his desk and play air guitar" or "come into the chamber and quote my own lyrics".”

    It’s too bad it never happened.

    It would have been great to see Garrett’s real world executive disasters and political hypocrisy judged according to the trite idealism and sanctimonious finger wagging of his song lyrics.

    Commenter
    Nici
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    June 27, 2013, 4:52PM
    • and what great management feats have you achieved nici to judge this

      Commenter
      ben
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      Shanghai
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:12PM
    • Nicely put.

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      MattPP
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      June 27, 2013, 5:18PM
  • "Mr Rudd has been sworn in as Australia's 28th Prime Minister."

    Rudd is still the 26th Prime Minister, not the 28th. Deakin and Fisher each had 3 non-consecutive terms and Menzies had 2, but each is only counted once. Menzies was still the 12th Prime Minister between the 16th (Curtin) and 17th (Holt).

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    Dave
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    June 27, 2013, 4:49PM
  • I want an election ASAP. There's no front bench. A big chunk of them have either gone to the backbench or are resigning from federal politics altogether.

    Making decisions for the country is second to Labor Party PMs taking care of themselves first. There is no effective government effective from today's sitting!

    I want an election ASAP!!!

    Commenter
    random
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    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:42PM
    • Why>When Rudd wins, you'll just demand another one. You're like 'Death' from Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey: "Best 2 out of 3, best 3 out of 5, best of 7".....

      Commenter
      Jamie
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      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:03PM
    • So now the deciding factor in when Australia should have an election is whether or not the state of the 'front bench' is acceptable to you?

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      Party Stooge
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      June 27, 2013, 5:28PM
    • I agree random no one is driving the bus. Let us have our say , Labor hasnt changed overnight and wont change until we make it.

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      LSM
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:48PM
  • thank God! that's the best thing happened out of this. Stephan Smith was the worst defence minister of Australian history. All he did was made the Defence a farce and a laughing stock. No defence member will ever forgive him for trying to discredit CMDRE Kafer.

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    Thornss
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    June 27, 2013, 4:39PM
  • Hey Cwitty !! You only seem to focussing on "smashing" and "toasting" ! How about accepting the Libs lost, and then creating "concensus". Surely those are better attributes than we've seen from TA and his "attack dogs" so far. Why shouldn't Labor be self interested? They've created a reform environment and passed much legislation. It's their job to protect that. The Libs would spend their first term tearing all that down, to replace it with what??

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    Allan McCarr
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    June 27, 2013, 4:39PM
  • The Public Servants just can't win. If Tony wins the election he'll sack thousands of them. If Kev stays around thousands will quit!

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    beasleyst
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    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:38PM
    • are you a sandwich short of a picnic? Since when did PS quit with change of govt or leader.

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      willco
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      June 27, 2013, 5:00PM
    • I know they say a leopard cannot change its skin. Maybe K Rudd can change.

      But today's start with the to and fro and no strategy on with visa457 in Parliament is not a good sign for hardened K Rudd supporters.

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      Dr B S Goh
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      Australian in Asia
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:10PM
    • May be they are winning too much now-more than the Country can afford without going into massive debt.

      Commenter
      noitall
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      Beacon Hill
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:18PM
    • Hahahaha!!! Good one!!

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      DIDI K
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      June 27, 2013, 5:53PM
  • Next week is election date lets see the true colours come out for the leaders I want to see election next week people of Australia put a sign on your door next week is election date no more garbage we want Australia back baby no more wasting time the time is now to set a new way for Australia not next month next year now is the time set forward Australia election is on and it's next Friday and no buts that's it either your in or out we are not achieving anything by doing this and playing games

    Commenter
    Election date
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    June 27, 2013, 4:38PM
    • Why do you want an earlier election so badly - Is it so that the LNP don't have to show us their policies.? I'll say all in good time and only after we have a good look at the Opposition policies, not three worlds slogans and glossy brochures. Beside logistically it is impossible for the AEC to organise one in such a short notice, even the candidate names are not known in some division, after all it is a National Election not a Party funds raising chuck raffle.

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      mais51
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      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:55PM
  • Tony Abbot,

    When are your older minister going to resign to make way for the younger generation? 60 is a bit too old.

    Commenter
    Blokey
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    Canberra
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:37PM
    • Who is Abbot ? Doh, wasted blow

      Commenter
      Genghis
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      Lounge
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:49PM
    • rudd will be gone by xmas

      Commenter
      genghis
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      lounge
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:04PM
    • @ Genhis,
      Who is Genhis? Talk about trivial.

      Commenter
      JM
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      June 27, 2013, 5:23PM
  • Sad to see Mr Smith go, he was the only one I had any respect for, Labor is just crashing and burning.

    Commenter
    al
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    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:37PM
    • GOOD to see him go! He had absolutely no respect for the digger on the ground, just a talking (political) head who couldn't even cuff answers to questions from the hoi polloi

      Commenter
      Viggen840
      Location
      Oakey QLD
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:22PM
  • Latham, Rudd, Gillard - all had the one man covering their backs. Wayne Swan!!

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    beasleyst
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:36PM
  • Nice to hear someone finally stand up for Australia and the Australian people from the attacks from the opposition.

    Glad you are back Kevin.

    Commenter
    Marty Funkhouser
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:34PM
  • Let's have a fair contest. Put Malcolm Turnbull up against Kevin Rudd.

    Commenter
    db2013
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    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:31PM
  • are all the one's quitting all the faceless men of the labor party ?

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    nikraf of vic
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    June 27, 2013, 4:26PM
  • Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has challenged Opposition Leader Tony Abbott to a debate about the debt and deficit at the National Press Club. Therein lies the problem, its all about Media cycles and if he is unable to debate these issues with benefit of privilege in the parliament then what hope has the country got. Is the NPC the new house? The madness goes on.

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    The Sceptic
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    June 27, 2013, 4:24PM
    • Parliament is about to be over until the election. Why not the NPC? Journos will get to ask the questions we would like answered as well.

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      helenB
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      June 27, 2013, 4:38PM
  • We need to talk about Kevin

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    Pippa
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    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:23PM
  • Great to be rid of Swanny, Emerson and Garrett and no I am not anti-Greenie, I am anti-Garrett. Hope this comment is not too sexist as they are all men.

    Commenter
    bg
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    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:17PM
    • Yeah...kinda nice that PG is history, but I really wanted to vote him out of my electorate! Like you, I'm just anti-Garrett.

      Commenter
      SRJ
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      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:35PM
  • Photo of Rudd: how to claw your way back to power?

    Commenter
    Pen of hrba
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    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:17PM
  • Kev - is just getting another framed picture of himself done at Teds - he is a regular there

    Commenter
    Genghis
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    Kevin i'm Not your "mate"
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:15PM
  • In my country people who ridicule the rulers are rounded up and flogged. How I wish I brought my whip with me!

    Commenter
    General Order
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:13PM
    • In my country they get to go on Q&A.

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      Pen of hrba
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      June 27, 2013, 4:33PM
    • Pen,
      That's quite funny

      Commenter
      J Walker
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      June 27, 2013, 5:47PM
  • Bugger, just yesterday I ordered 200 of those "Women for Gillard" T-shirts.

    Commenter
    dRod
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    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:11PM
    • I wonder if Mrs Shorten wore hers to bed last night?

      Commenter
      notlad
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:32PM
  • Rudd is so blinded by his brilliance he cannot see an election date.

    Commenter
    Pen of hrba
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    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:11PM
  • I pity he poor cleaners at Parliament house.
    All that blood, guts, knives and hatchets to clean up.
    This ALP shower makes the Greek Parliament look like a stable collection of scholars and gentlemen.

    Commenter
    Showerbucket
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:10PM
  • Please please please, someone counsel Kevin Rudd to forever banish "and you know something?" from his rhetoric. It is supremely patronising, assuming that we don't know anything, and that enlightenment is about to be delivered from his lips. Yes, it may be intended to create the impression that he is approachable, informal and friendly, but in fact it is paternalistic and alienating.

    Commenter
    skidmark
    Location
    st kilda
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:09PM
    • that's a great comment

      Commenter
      Fozbungle
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:50PM
  • So now we have to put up with Rudd's mealy mouthed wording of the English language again. God help us! It's a national disgrace and a low point of Australian politics to see the second worst prime minister in our history back in the seat again.

    Commenter
    Pete1
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:09PM
  • Disappointed in Macklin and Plibersek. How could they continue under Rudd.

    Commenter
    Jenni
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:07PM
    • It's called self preservation.

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:30PM
    • They continue because they are in it for themselves. What was it the Guru Richo said " Whatever it takes".

      Commenter
      Babel Fish
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:33PM
    • bullcrap. check out the footage of the former PM reducing Mirabella to a quiver of jelly yesterday over carbon and Obama. she has been braining them in Parliament, it's just that the media wouldn't ever run it the way they would have for a Keating or a Coste

      Commenter
      Peter Warrington
      Location
      marrickville
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:07PM
    • bullcrap. check out the footage of the former PM reducing Mirabella to a quiver of jelly yesterday over carbon and Obama. she has been braining them in Parliament, it's just that the media wouldn't ever run it the way they would have for a Keating or a Coste

      Commenter
      Peter Warrington
      Location
      marrickville
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:07PM
  • Whilst I won't be voting for him Mr Rudd certainly is easier on the ear than Julia.

    Commenter
    thereisnoyouinLabor
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:04PM
  • Wondering if Julia shoould ask for a recount. There was suposedly 101 members of caucas. Kev got 57 votes and Julia got 45. Maybe I need some Gonski reforms but to me that does not equal 101.

    Commenter
    Sparky3300
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    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:03PM
  • JG left the politics with dignity. History will honour her as one of the most remarkable PMs Australia's ever had.

    Commenter
    Andy
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:01PM
  • Run to the hills or run to Rudd. The hill must be berry far away

    Commenter
    Paddyfellah
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 4:00PM
  • People of Australia speak louder and tell them from mums to the coaches Australia need to fixes itself and as they say time pull your socks and put your head in gear and talk about moving forward for Australia not 1920 news it's 2013 come on where's the good old prime minster that did what was right for there country not for the party but for the country and the people the country

    Commenter
    Step up Australia
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:59PM
  • Wayne Swan and his class warfare plus Conroy and internet paranoia has done more to harm the labor party than people realise. I sincerely hope they both lose their seats at the next election.

    Commenter
    dumb pollies for dumb people
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    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:58PM
  • Bill Shorten is going to have to learn to smile again. It's not a good look.

    Commenter
    JB
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:57PM
    • For me, Bill, Albo and Penny Wong come across as people you simply can not trust, hollow-persons. Lucky Penny sits in another room otherwise we would have had some telling photographs from Andrew Meares & Alex Ellinghausen when Julia was sitting on the backbench, shame about that. particularly Penny me me me Wong you should be ashamed of yourself Julia must have thought you were her mate right until the end.

      Commenter
      timjackelton
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      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:33PM
  • Is Tony Abbott Australia's Man of Steel?

    His iron discipline has seen Labor knife two Prime Ministers in shrieking terror for their jobs.

    Zombie Rudd will be the third Prime Minister he has destroyed.

    Amazing!

    Commenter
    Bruce the Robert
    Location
    Ipswich
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:57PM
    • No, he's the Liberal Party's man of steel. The rest of us couldn't give a stuff.

      Commenter
      Tom
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:59PM
    • Labors self importance prevents them from seeing how good Tony is. He may be beatable, but he has already smashed Rudd so badly that his party sacked him. Then he smashed Julia.. Labor are so blinded by self interest that they think he cannot do it again... Rudd is toast Tony has not even begun yet...

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      Cwitty
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:05PM
    • It is not often you see more stability from opposition than government. It's a ruddy disgrace.

      Commenter
      kp
      Location
      brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:10PM
    • Straw is now iron?

      Commenter
      Que Benny Hill theme
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:13PM
    • Josef Stalin was the original 'man of steel' - hence the name he chose. That may not be the best model for Tony Abbott, though.

      Commenter
      Whyalla Wipeout
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:16PM
    • cwitty, I'm surprised that you think that Abbott is praiseworthy for having 'smashed' (your word) his political opponents and you actually note nothing about what he offers Australia as the alternative PM.

      Says everything that is wrong with the Liberals and how they have done such great damage to political discourse in Australia.

      Commenter
      Whyalla Wipeout
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:38PM
    • @cwitty - and if he becomes PM he will smash Australia.

      Commenter
      Changa
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:45PM
  • What are we doing here looks like news around thinks Australia is joke to them. What are you doing just change whole lot altogether and stop your crying how is Australia ever to have stability by doing this and also other countries looking Australia for importing and exporting goes down the drain

    Commenter
    Get a move on
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:55PM
    • This person votes.

      Commenter
      dr.english
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:34PM
  • Can't keep up with the number of retiring MP's. So far at least 18 MP's that vote Labor will not be contesting the next election. Another way of expressing that number is >20% of the parliamentary Labor party are quitting at the next election. Are they trying to get the percentage of quitters as high as their primary vote? When the going gets tough... the Labor party quit!! So much for a contest 20% have already thrown in the towel.

    Commenter
    Cwitty
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:54PM
    • Actually, it's quite a good move, though slightly risky. The resignations are from the JG side of the equation, and they are showing integrity by resigning from a scenario they can't support. This depletes for the media a pool of unhappy caucus members they can plumb for dissent. The risk is that thoe seats need to be won by new Labor candidates, still doable"

      Commenter
      Allan McCarr
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:00PM
    • Given a choice of 3 years watching Abbott or working under Rudd, I'd quit too.

      Commenter
      Simon
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:21PM
  • From the looks of informal polling today, Labor could win an election by a higher margin than KR beat JG!! He won by 57-45 Labor could win by 63-37
    Be still, my beating heart!!

    Commenter
    Allan McCarr
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:53PM
    • Let's see, Morgan conducts an instant SMS poll from last night which lifts LAB's 2PP vote to 49.5 from 45.5, from 10 days ago. The polling MOE is not stated but agruably is quite high as the SMS "push" polling approach is least, not most, sophisticated. The Fairfax online poll is even less sophisticated, with opportunities abounding everywhere to repeatedly vote, stack the voting, or do like all good Logies Awards' winners do (and that's "own" the vote). Even so, the 60:40 LAB:COA split is hardly anything to rely upon, and is nowhere near, what some were earlier suggesting, and that is a 68%+ result to LAB. The honeymoon will wear off quite quickly here, The real bounce (more like a dead cat bounce) is likely at +5, before it retreats back in 2 or so weeks time. Equally, the exodus of members happening today beggars belief. Some were obviously retiring and had signalled this all well and truly in advance, but one should not under-estimate the personal voting impact which could easily see even more seats fall. Instead of sticking around, the Labor arts are all jumping over the side rails even though the ship is still docked in port. So much for Labor confidence. Yet, to think about it, so far only Wayne swan has had the decency of saying that he is going to duke it out at the election. May be no glory, but perhaps some guts.

      Commenter
      Grant
      Location
      Mitcham
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:59PM
  • Stephen Smith the next WA premier?

    Commenter
    Peter
    Location
    My Lawley
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:53PM
    • I was hoping Smithy would be the ALP leader after the next election.

      Commenter
      In Amber Clad
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:17PM
  • Perhaps Hacka can now answer when he expects Tony Abbott to be PM.

    Commenter
    a sad day for the no-position opposition
    Location
    sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:52PM
    • that's easy after the THIS YEARS election But who will be the ALP Opposition Leader?

      Commenter
      terry
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:13PM
    • Well we need Rudd to give us a date first.

      But yes, much tougher proposition against Rudd. Game on.

      Or to quote an ex-PM, "bring it on".

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:22PM
  • Mr. Abbott has said Julai Gillard will be judged harshly by history as a Bad Prime Minister. To quote a line from Get Smart " Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury I have sat idlely by while the Prime Minister has made a complete Jackass of herself, NOW its my turn" !

    Commenter
    Noeyedeer
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:48PM
  • Kevin can't restrain himself from repeatedly demonstrating his 'briliance' on a 24 hour/7 day cycle.

    And he's got just so much valuable time to make up for.

    I give the gloss a fortnight.

    Commenter
    SteveH.
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:47PM
  • Amazing how many ALP MPs don't seem to believe Rudd's light on the hill speech

    Commenter
    Michael M
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:46PM
  • Q.Who brings a knife to a gunfight?
    A. An opposition politician!
    Bring a POLICY, not INVECTIVE !!

    Commenter
    Allan McCarr
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:46PM
  • I wonder who the Unions are going to replace Rudd with when the novelty wears off.

    Commenter
    Paul
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:41PM
    • A certain P.Howes is looking for a new job, he's brought productivity to its knees in his current one so unskilled Labor MP is right up his strata

      Commenter
      Hornberger
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:45PM
    • Maybe Rudd will replace the unions instead.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:47PM
    • They'll have to wait to see if there is anybody left at this rate.

      Commenter
      Puzzled
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:53PM
    • I think they will use 457's as no one in their right mind would wish to serve under K Rudd.

      Commenter
      Genghis
      Location
      Not your "mate"
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:12PM
    • 2 Years until the Party is sick of Rudd and elect Treasurer Chris Bowen as leader of the ALP? Bowen is being groomed for the role and will need a year before the 2016 election.

      Commenter
      Vulture
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:16PM
  • Just watching TA talking to his "matter of public importance" and all he does is make sarcastic personal remarks and the people behind him pull faces, make catcalls and point - I don't think there is any hope for our Parliamentary process because they want to behave this way in spite of the PM calling for a different way forward. I guess that's what you resort to when you have nothing constructive of your own to say.

    Commenter
    helenB
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:39PM
    • +1

      Commenter
      TheSurrealist
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:55PM
  • The Lady Members of the former Prime Minister's Team, were loud and vocal in their allegiance to her. Yet, when it came to honour their allegiance, they chose and embraced blatant self interest. Many of the Men in Blue, chose dignity in resignation. I honour these Men of Character. The Electorate shall wreck their restrained anger, at the sight of self-centred Women of no character or honour.

    Commenter
    Robert - Hunter Valley
    Location
    Hunter Valley
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:36PM
  • Dr No is quoting his imaginary friends in parliament now. Rattled badly it seems.

    Commenter
    TheSurrealist
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:35PM
  • Does any one know if Julie Gillard will be making a valedictory speech in parliament?

    Commenter
    Andy
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:35PM
    • The answer is : Who Cares.

      Commenter
      Babel Fish
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:37PM
  • Parliament should be forced to stay open until weasel Kevvie gives a straight answer! We want to know why all your failures and false promises now makes you suddenly fit to be the PM? In many spheres you weren't fit once upon a time and you won't be ever fit again. I've just had a weasel word in the form of an email asking me to donate to the Labour Party. Perhaps he'd like to explain to my kids why they can't afford the basic necessities in his 'great' Australian economy! Oh, I forgot he can't even give a straight answer about anything! What a mess people! Forget , Kevvie, about me giving any money to the Labour Party, I'd rather (need to) give it to my kids so they can survive!

    Commenter
    Phillip Power
    Location
    Hong Kong
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:29PM
    • Kevin Rudd, 3 years ago you created a big mess, shame on you come back to the same job again. Let's talk about economy, when are you going to bring back surplus after you spent all and borrowed more 3 years ago?
      Please do some real work, don't need try to chase popularity by going to facebook, twitter, talk about global warm to young naive people. Behind the smiling face all i can see is bitterness.

      Commenter
      KR to go
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:03PM
  • @ Pugwash - I love your propegana.
    World class up load speeds that is being built. Well not where I'm living for the next, read it, 10 years;
    Solid economy, which part, ohh the mining sector, the rest of it is actually up the creek with out a paddle;
    Education, there is nothing wrong with state education, nothing, yet she decides to take money away for tertiary education and hand it out to states that don't want it.

    Yeah, It ain't wrecked

    Commenter
    Steve. C
    Location
    Lesmurdie WA
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:27PM
    • The States actually DO want the money - it's only O'Farrell who has been honest enough to put his hand out without sacrificing the education system to give his buddy Abbott a free kick. And as for our "up the creek" economy, Australia has just come in as having the highest median wealth in the world - NOT average (which factors in the Gina's of the world), MEDIAN. Affluence the rest of the world would envy and the Lib supporters still find something to moan about - sad.

      Commenter
      BC
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:45PM
    • Would you want to work for Kev! Who is going to get defense - Kate Lundy our primary school educated sports minister?

      Commenter
      Genghis
      Location
      Jokeville
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:24PM
    • Would you want to work for Kev! Who is going to get defense - Kate Lundy our primary school educated sports minister?

      Commenter
      Genghis
      Location
      Jokeville
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:24PM
  • The Lib supporters are quite apoplectic today - the ALP look like they have their mojo back, and a little of the hubris has gone from the far right. They probably still won't win, but at least now all the LNP empty rhetoric will be exposed for the fraudulence that it is.About time.

    Commenter
    BC
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:22PM
  • Really disappointed that Stephen Smith is stepping down. He was one of the most impressive ministers in the Labor Party.

    Commenter
    Mike
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:19PM
    • He is not liked by those in the ADF so a few happy dances by senior ADF personnel is probably happening about now..

      Commenter
      Hawker
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:40PM
  • Wow! What to do now. I would have voted for Mr Rudd but for his stance on changing marriage laws. I prefer Mr Rudd to Ms Gillard and to Mr Abbott but I can't bring myself to vote marriage away.

    Commenter
    Eve
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:19PM
    • What's the problem - he is one person with a personal opinion - only the Parliament will change the law. If we don't vote for a local member because we disagree with a personal opinion of the leader then we have all really lost the plot.

      Commenter
      helenB
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:29PM
    • I find it funny that you know gay people are real, you dont know if god is real, yet you think its ok to take away the rights of gay people so you might not upset something that isnt real.

      Commenter
      advice dog
      Location
      .
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:33PM
    • Pardon? How does extending marriage rights to those who presently don't have it "voting marriage away"? I would have thought there would be more people getting married, not less.

      Commenter
      Bah, humbug
      Location
      Earth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:39PM
    • A govermnment can pass a bill that says the sun rises in the west, but it doesn't mean that it does.

      Commenter
      David Morrison
      Location
      Blue Mountains
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:59PM
    • Eve, when same sex marriage finally gets voted in, it will not be compulsory. Hetros like you and I will still have our "traditional" marriage as we have always had.

      Commenter
      Straight but fair
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:11PM
  • I forgot how annoying this man was - drop the mate business, you don't have any perhaps many

    Commenter
    Jill
    Location
    Prahran
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:16PM
    • Sorry mate.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:37PM
    • Tone is that you "mate", I thought it was elbow, maybe smithy or god forbid Kochy. Sorry Tone you need to speak up to K Rudd, I am in the house, the ruddster, the main man K Rudd, sorry mate

      Commenter
      Genghis
      Location
      Lounge
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:02PM
    • He is so down with the kids K Rudd, he is just so trendy. In fact he is trending right now. Quick kids get out and vote for Kev - he is your mate, your trustworthy bestest mate.

      Commenter
      Genghis
      Location
      I wouldnt let him feed my cats
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:07PM
  • K Rudd - "Smithy", "Albo"

    Kev drop the nick names, you are a PM not a footy show host

    Commenter
    Bill
    Location
    Preston
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:15PM
    • and "mate" - Kev you have no mates - you have "twitter friends"

      Commenter
      Stan
      Location
      Preston
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:31PM
    • Are "twitter friends" twits?

      Commenter
      SRJ
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:43PM
  • Another one who doesn't want to work for KRudd

    Commenter
    Bill
    Location
    Preston
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:14PM
  • This is nonsense! It's all a media beat up. Julia is still the Prime Minister and there are no divisions in the Labor party.

    Commenter
    Bakayarou
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:12PM
    • Is this Comment a refugee from yesterdays Pulse?

      Commenter
      tasch2
      Location
      Mornington Peninsula
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:28PM
  • So Rudd harps on about not being asked questions on policies, but when he is asked, he dosnt answer,
    What's changed?
    In my book Rudd will always be a loser.

    Commenter
    Atomant
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:12PM
  • ....and another one bites the dust!! Defence Minister Stephen Smith (Mr Helmet Head) one of the nicest Laborites gone.

    Commenter
    Rosie
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:11PM
  • Can Labor steer clear of troubled waters and into smoother seas now that they have fitted a new RUDD-er>

    Commenter
    haematocrit
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:08PM
  • No doubt that Tony Abbott would like an early election. Less chance of the electorate seeing that the Coalition does not have any real policies, just a large bucket of mud to sling at those who might try doing what they were elected to do.

    Commenter
    Angry
    Location
    Western Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:08PM
    • We would all like an early election. its the dumb, dumber and dumbest show with labour. Rudd, Gillard and the supporters who buy all the crap that Labour have peddled.

      Commenter
      Amps
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:53PM
  • 57 - 45 .... hardly a united party. All smiles - for the time being..... did you hear re-tread Kev's stab at the party in the opening sentence of his acceptance speech last night? enjoy the honeymoon.

    Commenter
    grumpybloke
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:07PM
    • Abbott 51, Turnbull 50. OMG they're fractious.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:36PM
    • Abbot beat Turnbull by one vote didn't he?

      Commenter
      Pedro
      Location
      Randwick
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:41PM
    • Abbott 51, Turnbull 50. OMG they're fractious.

      " And how many challengers have their been since? not one, unlike the the lying back stabbing party
      "Rudd the facade"

      Commenter
      terry
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:09PM
  • Quite colourful - the support of Mrs Bill Shorten support for Ms Julia Gillard? Anymore democratic scenes we missed?

    Commenter
    Teary Rex
    Location
    Melbourne BAU
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:06PM
  • Question Time without Mr Pyne
    How divine.
    Wish we could experience it all the time.

    Commenter
    Rod
    Location
    the Coast
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:05PM
    • Question time - Will be just Libs v KRudd and Albo - what a Joke

      Commenter
      Genghis
      Location
      Jokeville
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:29PM
    • of course! that explains the different tone to question time - He's wound up like a thousand day clock..

      Commenter
      rod steiger
      Location
      merriwa
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:33PM
    • He is my favourite MP. Even my lefty brothers think he is good value. Parliament without Pyne? Dead boring. Did you see Albo hiding behind him yesterday? Hilarious.

      Commenter
      thereisnoyouinLabor
      Location
      brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:42PM
  • She could actually start the Aust Feminist Party. But leave it for after this election.

    Commenter
    JB
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:05PM
  • Looks like another one is about to bite the dust. Will Labour have anybody left on its front bench. Surprisingly Tanya Pilbersek and Jenny Macklin have been very quiet about their stance and whether they intend to stay. Being such staunch Gillard supporters I would have thought that they would have resigned by now.

    Commenter
    K
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:05PM
  • Another one that doesn't want to work with you Kev. Stephen Smith is one of the few great assets in labour.
    We wont miss Combet or Conroy but Smith is quality. Kev, you better not crack down on 457's, you are going to have to look overseas for people willing to work with you or should we say work for you

    Commenter
    Genghis
    Location
    Lounge
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:04PM
    • I hear Alistair Campbell is looking for a job

      Commenter
      Trav
      Location
      Burwood
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:05PM
  • Quite colourful - the support of Mrs Bill Shorten support for Ms Julia Gillard? Anymore democratic scenes we missed?

    Commenter
    Inspector Rex
    Location
    Melbourne BAU
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:04PM
    • @OzJay, are we watching different question times? What question has Krudd answered. The coalition keep asking fair questions such as, if his own colleagues cannot trust him, how can Australia? Rudd cannot answer it. He is hated by his own party for a reason, and no amount of attempted fillerbustering will save his hide. Abbott took him down before, he will do it again.

      Commenter
      kp
      Location
      brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:03PM
    • @OzJay, are we watching different question times? What question has Krudd answered. The coalition keep asking fair questions such as, if his own colleagues cannot trust him, how can Australia? Rudd cannot answer it. He is hated by his own party for a reason, and no amount of attempted fillerbustering will save his hide. Abbott took him down before, he will do it again.

      Commenter
      kp
      Location
      brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:03PM
    • It's easy not to answer questions and thus look confident.

      Commenter
      David Morrison
      Location
      Blue Mountains
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:03PM
  • Smith is probably the best man they have and he is going.He should have been foreign minister or even DPM
    Heaven help the country for the next few months with a bunch of Union lap dogs running the kennel

    Commenter
    ozabroad
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:03PM
    • Would you want to work for Kev! Who is going to get defense - Kate Lundy our primary school educated sports minister?

      Commenter
      Genghis
      Location
      Jokeville
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:24PM
  • Will there be a valedictory speech from Julia Gillard today?

    Commenter
    Andy
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:03PM
  • Sedona, Just what did Swann and Julia do to our beautiful country? Let me inform you! They made it the most envied country in the world.. They gave it a AAA credit rating. Low unemployment. Lowest debt to GDP. Sorry! Second lowest debt to GDP in the world. If you are genuinely looking at the beauty of our country you obviously haven't visited East Gippsland lately, as I find it just as beautiful as ever and my outlook is improving every day as I watch the Libs turning themselves inside out to find a way to tarnish Rudd. What? No more mud in the bucket? Tony will find some, although his only talent is becoming a little boring wouldn't you say?

    Commenter
    Creeker
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:01PM
  • I was not surprised by the response from Tony Abbott and the rest of his alleged shadow cabinet. I am not particularly impressed by the Labor Government, but it is patently obvious, that the Coalition does not have any real policies other than a return to more social and economic damage as was visited upon Australia by the Howard/Costello government.

    Commenter
    Angry
    Location
    Western Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:00PM
  • Has anyone sought the perspective of our former First Man?

    Commenter
    Caligula
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:00PM
  • All I can say is that Rudd is on fire in question time today. He is continually proving why an Abbott government would be a disaster for this wonderful country. It is refreshing to see a PM outlining the FACTS and ACHIEVEMENTS of a party while the coalition has NO POLICY!

    Commenter
    BJ
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 3:00PM
    • Notice how Abbott returns to negativity, it won't be long before Abbott starts throw the dirt and muck at Rudd. How can anyone think Tony Abbott is suitable to be PM of Australia, what an embarrassment.

      Commenter
      Charles Foster Kane
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:24PM
    • Jonathon Swift on the Liberal Country Party:
      “Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed.”

      Commenter
      rod steiger
      Location
      merriwa
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:27PM
    • What policies and what achievements has labour really to show other than broken promised and for that matter pie in the sky unfunded promises? Where the promises have been plausible, implementation has been a disaster absolutrly! How unfotunate unions and the Labour Party have to resort to aspirations as policy and success make belief to believe their own horse s--- in attempt to resonate with the populace! Elections please!

      Commenter
      Muku
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:38PM
  • Kevin, we need to talk about this uncompetitive exchange rate.

    Bring the dollar down further between now and election and you would have saved 000's more jobs.

    Commenter
    Opinion Only
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:59PM
  • is anyone else wondering about the Speaker's decision making in question time so far today? Yes - it's a tough job, and the last day of a shocking parliament, but methinks she could do a better job of impartiality.....

    Commenter
    is this for real
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:59PM
  • I watched what I thought was the Voice of Caucus last night in the pub cutting into my porterhouse steak. Flash Julia surrounded by her supporters, pub seemed rather calm, assumed correctly were consoling supporters. I continued eating my steak.

    Commenter
    Inspector Rex
    Location
    Melbourne BAU
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:58PM
  • This government is a joke.
    What was the GG thinking?
    It's obvious that, according to labor and the Governor General, the Australian people don't have a right to vote.

    Commenter
    Anna
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:55PM
    • I'm sorry Anna, but the GG's actions are governed by the Constitution. As the Coalition are not going to call for a vote of no confidence, the GG has little option but to accept the change of leadership. Remember, we elect parties, not leaders.

      Commenter
      mr-zero
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:17PM
    • The Governor-General was thinking that her duty is to uphold the Australian Constitution and not to serve the ignorant and self-serving desires of those who value their political opinions above democracy in this country.

      Commenter
      Whyalla Wipeout
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:17PM
    • That's completely misrepresenting the facts. The Prime Minister is the leader of the party that has formed government (has the confidence of the House of Representatives). That is the ALP. As the leader of the ALP, Kevin Rudd has now been sworn in as Prime Minister. There will still be an election between August and November ... that is when the people get to decide if they want to change the party in government (we don't vote for the leader directly).

      Commenter
      Really?
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:18PM
    • Possibly the most ignorant and uninformed comment I have ever read on this forum.

      Visit this link: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/

      It describes in great detail how Parliament and the Government of Australia works as well as what the GG can do.

      Commenter
      tasch2
      Location
      Mornington Peninsula
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:22PM
    • anna - The GG could do nothing. The ALP with the help of the independants still have the cofidence of the Parliament and as such, she must swear inn who ever is leading the ALP.

      The only person who could call for a vote of no confidence is Tony Abbott.

      There are so many people in this county who dont seem to understand how our system works

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Perth WA
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:23PM
    • We have a robust parliamentry system and the Australian populous will have their chance to vote by at least the end of November (if Rudd doesn't stick to the current election date).

      If it was up to the whim of the populous to vote on every issue, we would have the death penalty back.

      It works as it is.

      Commenter
      sugardaddy
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:24PM
    • Please explain!!!!????

      Commenter
      toenee65
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:26PM
    • Obviously you have forgotten that we did vote. Remember the election in 2010? The GG is doing what the people asked. Giving the preferred head of the governing party the title of PM. What part of Democracy do you not understand?

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:28PM
    • "What part of Democracy don't you understand"

      It would seem to be the part between elections the result of which you take personal umbrage to.

      Commenter
      tasch2
      Location
      Mornington Peninsula
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:33PM
    • Steve,
      It's not even a hard system either.
      God have you ever tried to figure the NZ one out.

      Commenter
      J Walker
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:51PM
  • Hooray Good news folks
    2.44PM - Rudd commits to carbon tax staying and says he is a long time supporter..

    Commenter
    Dark Vader
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:54PM
    • That's great news. I always said K Rudd was the hare brain behind the carbon tax. After all he said global warming is the greatest challenge o our time.

      Given what happened in the past few days when Gillard was knifed by the closest friends the greatest moral challenge of our time is to get some politicians to have integrity.

      Lets have some robust debates with the new PM on carbon tax and the boatpeople crisis both of which he is fully responsible for. Poor Gillard was just carrying out his dictatorial orders.

      Commenter
      Dr B S Goh
      Location
      Australian in Asia
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:25PM
    • He also said he wouldnt challenge for the leadership...

      Commenter
      Jimc
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:32PM
    • Yes, indeed the 2:12 p.m. post shows a group of these "energised" ALP members...

      Commenter
      Tim [unfortunately not from Altona]
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:53PM
  • Watched question time this afternoon. Labor under Rudd are absolutely dynamic. Rudd is smashing the coalition negativity and all the ministers are responding as well. Just watched Rudd annihilate Joe Hockey. Abbott is very meek. Seems to me all the weak former Labor ministers, with the exception of Kim Carr are sitting on the back bench where they belong.

    Commenter
    Jonathan
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:52PM
  • Jonathon Swift:
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

    Commenter
    rod steiger
    Location
    merriwa
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:50PM
  • Stephanie @2.44p.m. - I also hate the way Rudd slouches over the Dispatch box.

    Commenter
    Rosie
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:49PM
  • When will someone throw a sandwich at Kev? Hopefully it's Julia that does it.

    Commenter
    Oh no, not again
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:46PM
    • Me!!! I'll do it!! Gladly. And I'll aim right at his mouth to shut him up. I thought I'd heard the last of his annoying voice.

      Commenter
      Setaysha
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:10PM
    • lol!

      Commenter
      Nick1234
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:21PM
  • Abbott interview on Lateline 28/11/07:

    TONY JONES: I've got to ask you this. Whoever takes the leadership tomorrow. Should they remain leader under any circumstances until the next election?

    TONY ABBOTT: Um, I'm certainly not guaranteeing that I won't in the future challenge for the leadership. But I certainly intend to try to be a very constructive and loyal member of the team of whoever wins tomorrow.

    TONY JONES: So you won't say that the person who wins tomorrow should remain leader until the next election?

    TONY ABBOTT: Well, if that person performs, yes.

    TONY JONES: Oh, it's a bit like Kevin Rudd, is it? Performance measures.

    Commenter
    Dags
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:46PM
    • Well done!

      Commenter
      Pat Onthaback
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:59PM
    • hmmm....... wonder if the Libs will be sufficiently courageous to call on a spill with Turnbull challenging for their leadership? I'd like to see that!

      Commenter
      cityboy
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:30PM
  • Libs look very down in the mouth, Labor has real spring in their step, it really is a gamechanger, Libs cockiness gone and reality sinks in, the Ruddster is back on deck, fit and firing. Next opinion poll is abbotts worst nightmare, his personal rating is lower than a snakes belly Game on folks, game on.! LOL

    Commenter
    Piesnchess
    Location
    Mt Evelyn
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:44PM
    • Calm down with your excitement. It's only day1.
      We're all waiting to see where the polls will be when the elctorate have a little longer of your great mesiah Rudd in their ears.
      My guess is the polls will be just as they are now.

      Commenter
      Wallace
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:49PM
    • Yes - they will win - we will all have Rudd and his ego for years to come...with a country that embraces the block, the mole, the biggest loser I am sure Celebrity Kev will go a long way.

      Commenter
      Genghis
      Location
      Lounge
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:52PM
    • haha another delusional labor voter!

      Commenter
      Hornberger
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:04PM
    • I agree Piesnchess! I've long been a Julia fan (and a Kevin loather) but I strongly feel that the caucus made the right decision. It was right for the country, the Labor Party and ultimately, Julia and her legacy. Penny Wong's sincere and moving words to Fran Kelly this morning basically sums up my feelings. And Bill Shorten also shone in my eyes. And it goes without saying that Julia and Wayne were a class act. Indeed, the way Labor has, finally, dealt with this issue has mightily impressed me and exceeded all expectations. Who knows where it will lead...but making Abbott accountable before the election, and making him accountable if he does, somehow, become PM is reason enough to embrace this new era.

      Commenter
      Passionfruit
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:05PM
    • Trouble is - it's not a game. That was Origin.

      Commenter
      Setaysha
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:06PM
    • Julia Gillard was more popular than K Rudd when she knifed him. I agree polls may spike over the next week, but Labor will be back in the doldrums in no time.

      Commenter
      Ed
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:23PM
  • Just watching Question Time... and Rudd is on fire. Confident, commanding and on the attack with a clear, constructive message. Such a contrast to the defensive hectoring and whiney tones of Gillard. His supporting ministers suddenly look more energised too. And the Opposition is looking more than a little flustered.

    Commenter
    OzJay
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:42PM
    • Yes, indeed the 2:12 p.m. post shows a group of these "energised" ALP members...

      Commenter
      Tim [unfortunately not from Altona]
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:53PM
    • It's easy not to answer questions and thus look confident.

      Commenter
      David Morrison
      Location
      Blue Mountains
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:03PM
  • Well if the debt level at almost 300 Billion dollars in the red is no problem, by all means, keep increasing the level and splashing out on more failed / delayed projects. We will obviously keep our AAA Credit rating because that strategy is solid gold. Just look how well its working for the U.S

    Commenter
    Alex
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:41PM
    • Alex
      You are joking of course aren't you.
      How could anyone with even half a brain compare Australia's debt with the US debt.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:52PM
    • Yea, lets blow it on drones for asylum seekers, or by giving the mega rich a tax free zone to operate from, or by providing grants to big business so they can reduce pollution using our tax money instead of paying tax for polluting.Or by removing the mining tax so that the mega rich can still fleece the Commonwealth of the massive profits from mining. And at the same time let's increase the GST and lower personal tax so that the middle class can take the tax burden off the upper class. While you're at it, let's bring in austerity measures so that we can put a whole lot of people out of work. After all, only the rich need protection from the GFC.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:54PM
    • Steve
      Anyone with half a brain would realise the comparison was not between Australia and American debt, but the similar policy of continuing to raise the debt level. When Labour took office in 2007, the debt ceiling was set around 80 billion dollars, it has since been risen several times and is now 300 billion dollars and they have almost capped it again.

      Tone, fair point about Drones, I think that’s a stupid policy, but the spending on asylum seekers has already increased dramatically under the new border protection policy.

      With the resources boom slowing down, as mentioned by Rudd today in question time. continuing to tax mining is only going to encourage mining investors to look to other countries, not to mention the tax failed to deliver the projected income by a long shot, which threw off the whole budget.

      As to your other points, they’re all sensationalist arguments.

      Commenter
      Alex
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:00PM
  • Hmm, what would Shakespeare write next. Julius Caesar survived his assassination and is back on the throne, propped up by Brutus ... until the knives are sharpened again.

    Commenter
    Billnix
    Location
    W
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:40PM
  • Ms Gillard, could you and those who have just resigned please establish a new party? I will then have a party to vote for in a couple of months time.

    Commenter
    Pip
    Location
    Box Hill
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:40PM
  • OOPS!
    Abbott overplayed his hand. Now poor Credlin has the job of convincing everyone that Rudd is worse than Julia.
    Poor Tony. He lost the Senate last night. If he can't get away from negativity, he may well lose the House as well.

    Commenter
    Steve
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:39PM
    • The latest Morgan Poll suggests that this is going to happen - time for a LNP leadership change.

      Commenter
      zacca
      Location
      adelaide
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:50PM
    • A look at Rudd's record will confirm that Rudd is worse than Gillard.
      Broken promises and shocking decisions.everywhere you look,
      We will not touch the PHI rebate,
      We will not touch Supa,
      Grocery watch,
      Fuel watch.
      Promised a referendum on taking over all public hospitals in 18 months if he did not fix them.
      Promised to ease the cost of living then imposing RET that drove up the cost of electricity
      Voting to a carbon tax that the voters had no say in,
      Border Protection, over 45,000 boat people have arrived since he changed the system that worked at cost of over $2billion a year,
      The greatest moral challenge of our life time. Now what was that?
      Abusing Air Force personal who bring you the wrong meal or when they cannot find your hair dryer.
      Wasteful spending and racking up a debt that costs $22million a day interest,
      Spending more time overseas on junkets than any other politician ever.
      Leaking documents to destroy your party's electoral chances.
      Saying he will never challenge for the Leadership again then doing it three months later.
      Just a few to start with.

      Commenter
      tom
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:58PM
  • Looks like Rudd is using the same strategy as his predecessor, never answer a question.

    Commenter
    adrian
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:38PM
    • Looks like Abbott has not changed his strategy of straw man arguments.

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:44PM
    • has he had a question worthy of an answer yet??
      looks like the libs still don't understand how Westminster works.
      or did the public choose Abbott or Turnbull or Nelson.

      Commenter
      jools
      Location
      DaBra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:49PM
    • Just because a question is inconvenient to Rudd doesn't mean it isn't worthy of an answer.

      Some of us would like to know the answer to these questions.

      Commenter
      adrian
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:07PM
    • And Abbott still hasn't given us his policies. So what's your point? Nothing to see here, move along.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:23PM
  • Can he make the election date later than is is scheduled for?? If so, should he to try to build up support?

    Commenter
    Frank
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:38PM
    • I guess that depends on whether he plans to change any policies or just try to coast on his supposedly enormous personal popularity. Based on his cave-in to the unions on 457 visas, I suspect he is relying on the latter. As such, if I were him, I would go as early as possible to capitalise on the honeymoon.

      Commenter
      AdamC
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:44PM
    • The short answer is yes and yes. In his shoes (Kevin's) I would hold off calling an election until the last day possible (30/11/13) and not disclose the date until the Constitution demands that I do (about 60days before the election date). This would give me and my party more time to consolidate under their new leader and also make it harder for the opposition to campaign, as they would not know when the election is going to happen. Julia Gillard threw away this advantage when she set a date so far ahead of what was needed Another strategic mistake which surely brought about her political demise.

      Commenter
      Billnix
      Location
      Western Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:53PM
    • He would be better to shorten the period to minimise the impact of the propaganda that will be exercised against him.

      Commenter
      Killjoy
      Location
      Sinny
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:55PM
  • Australia must be a laughing stock of the world today. The events yesterday are embarrassing for all Australians whether you are a Labor or Liberal supporter.
    Who was running the country yesterday?

    Commenter
    LB
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:35PM
    • This embarrassment is nothing compared to the embarrassment we'll feel if Abbott gets in.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:38PM
    • SteveH was, although i'm not sure he's too happy about handing it back to Kevin.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:38PM
    • We are running the country, going to work, caring for children, the elderly, volunteering for the community, government has little to do with it.

      Commenter
      Jen
      Location
      Brighton
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:46PM
    • yes the best economy in the world is a laughing stock in the bizaro world the libs live in

      Commenter
      jools
      Location
      DaBra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:51PM
    • What the rest of the world thinks is the last thing I'm worried about. I want to know what policies are going to be changed and what Abbott policies are. I want them to get back to governing the country and Abbott proving he deserves to be the next PM. Not just by default.

      Commenter
      bt
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:03PM
  • rob oakshott harks back to a nicer more civilised parliamentary era. As Gough Whitlam once opined in Parliament "Yes, we remember"

    Commenter
    rod steiger
    Location
    merriwa
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:34PM
    • I believer it went like this.

      An NCP MP was on his feet, and commenced:

      "I am a Country Member"

      To which Whitlam responded:

      "We remember."

      Those were the days.

      Commenter
      Louis Cypher
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:50PM
    • Paul Keating :
      "What we have got is a dead carcass, swinging in the breeze, but nobody will cut it down to replace him."

      a farragio of potty mouths in the old days

      Commenter
      rod steiger
      Location
      merriwa
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:11PM
    • and remember Gough's famous characterization of opposing country members from Queensland s as "bible bashing bastards"

      Commenter
      Fozbungle
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:01PM
  • Great work Kevin saying the mining boom is over - that's not negative at all!

    Commenter
    Genghis
    Location
    Lounge
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:34PM
    • Genghis
      Does that mean you think the mining boom is still going? Have you not been reading the news?

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:45PM
    • Abbott and Hockey have said the same.
      its called the truth.

      Commenter
      jools
      Location
      DaBra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:53PM
    • according to labors favourite and the worlds greatest treasurer it was slowing down?? There is a very big difference! rather important when you are prime minister. So is Kev right or the worlds greatest treasurer?

      Commenter
      Genghis
      Location
      Lounge
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:57PM
  • Just like the old days! Rudd doesn't know how to answer any questions. He's a coward of the highest order and people here think he can dfo anything about this mess he created all by himself!

    Commenter
    Phill Power
    Location
    Hong Kong
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:32PM
    • I'd say the coward is Abbott. He can't even tell us his policies!

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:39PM
    • Obsess about Tony Abbott all you like but it's about Rudd now and he's still up to his old pompous tricks. Follow him if you like but in the end it won't be pretty on election day. Abbott can hold his own with any of these useless Labour showponies!

      Commenter
      Phill Power
      Location
      Hong Kong
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:04PM
  • Are you ready to rumble Dr No? Game on!
    Bring it!

    Commenter
    TheSurrealist
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:30PM
  • I thought Question Time was going to be gentler - as requested by the new P.M. Didn't last long, did it???

    Commenter
    Rosie
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:28PM
  • interesting to see the change in tone of language used in the house today in question time

    Wonder why that is??

    Commenter
    BarbC
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:27PM
  • How long is it till we see "Underbelly - Caucus" hit CH9?

    Commenter
    Davo
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:25PM
  • "Are we going to degenerate into the old politics of negativity....or whether we have some chance of the politics of hope?"

    More like the politics of Kevin Rudd's insatiable appetite for self-promotion.

    Latham was right.

    Commenter
    SteveH.
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:22PM
    • Glad to see you are a Latham lover, SteveH. That must be a change from 2004.

      Still good to see that Abbott is going on with his relentless negativity and policy-free zone as always. If he becomes Prime Minister we know that the nastiness and negativity will continue.

      Commenter
      Whyalla Wipeout
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:32PM
    • He sure was right
      "He knows that every day he gets in the media cycle he's knocking Gillard down a notch or two in the polls. This is a program, a jihad of revenge, the like of which we have never seen before in the history of Australian politics. And it goes beyond the normal human reaction of revenge. You are getting into the realm of evil."

      Commenter
      Bet
      Location
      Prahran
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:39PM
    • WW, time you went off to specsavers
      old boy, I said Latham was right, not that I was in love with him.

      I hope you don't make this kind of a mistake in public places.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:17PM
  • so rudd just said the mining boom is over - big statement for the first half an hour in office, and rather anegative statement ! get him out

    Commenter
    Genghis
    Location
    Lounge
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:22PM
    • Some realism is required. Maybe Labor should have told the truth starting 20 years ago...

      Commenter
      Liberator
      Location
      SEQLD
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:28PM
    • I am feeling sick listening to Rudd, how I haven't missed him, bring back Julia

      Commenter
      Stacey
      Location
      Hawthorn
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:35PM
    • Best thing in the world, not having to listen to "Joolya"!

      Commenter
      Norm
      Location
      Maroubra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:50PM
  • Aww Oakey's speech is so touching! So nice of him to send such a meaningful text to a wonderful PM.

    Commenter
    JuliaIsTheBest
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:21PM
  • Watching the house this morning one can finally see the fight being taken up to the opposition again. Labor members are increasingly looking more spirited and the opposition very tired and repetitive.

    Commenter
    Altered
    Location
    Esperance
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:20PM
  • I am enjoying the shrill character assassinations of Kevin Rudd in today's comments coming from the usual conservative contributors.It suggests an element of fear is encroaching on the prior smugness and certainty of a forthcoming electoral victory. Keep them coming - its very amusing. Like Kevin or not, its game on now!

    Commenter
    Charlie Zero
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:19PM
    • I know who's sounding shrill. I wouldn't get too excited too soon if I was you.

      Commenter
      Johny
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:34PM
  • Congratulations "MEDIA" you are the real winners. You have had your way. Why waste money going to an election when you decide who should or should not be Prime Minister.

    Commenter
    grumpy
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:17PM
  • Rudd thinks the G7 meeting matters to setting Australia's election date? Is he going to go wander the halls of wherever it is and pretend he's important? "Excuse me, Barack, a word? What about you Angela?Please I need some photos!"

    Commenter
    Simon
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:13PM
    • When is he going to solve the Syria issue? i mean really its almost been 24hrs and he hasnt saved the world, slacking off this guy like u knew he would!

      Commenter
      Hornberger
      Location
      Singapore
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:18PM
    • @Simon, so you think the election should be on September 7? Tell the other world leaders, it's just a G6 this time?

      Commenter
      Dags
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:28PM
    • G1, Krudd in attendance

      Commenter
      Hornberger
      Location
      Singapore
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:39PM
    • Kev for President

      Commenter
      Genghis
      Location
      Lounge
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:11PM
  • Poor old Tones and Bishop look like they've swallowed a whole lemon each, very sour now Julia is gone, and their leader has personal poll rating lower than a sandbar. They know its game on, and the endless honeymoon with the media is over, done and dusted. This is priceless, they were just soooo arrogant and over confident. Now they have some real work to do. LOL

    Commenter
    Piesnchess
    Location
    Mt Evelyn.
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:12PM
    • On the contrary, this is one of the events that they anticipated.

      Of course Labor voters were too busy going on about how the media was making everything up and that Gillard would lead to the election.

      Commenter
      adrian
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:17PM
    • They've swallowed a Kevin O'Lemon, as their advertising campaigns will no doubt remind us.

      Commenter
      Bob
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:14PM
  • So the guy that does not want to be PM is now PM. Again. That's really going to instill a lot of confidence in this country and his leadership. When did moving forward mean moving backwards?Congratulations, that's the final nail in the coffin for the Labor Party who will now be relegated to the dustbins of history. Simply put the Australian people are not so stupid as to be fooled by having an unpopular leader who made many bad decisions replaced just before a federal election. The ALP is as relevant to the 21st century economy as the horse and buggy are.

    Commenter
    Dean
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:06PM
    • Unpopular?

      Gillard claimed Rudd’s mistakes are: "Dysfunction, paralysis, sabotage, chaos?"

      Stephen Conroy: "Contempt?"

      Nicola Roxon: "Very bad behaviour?"

      Swan: "Deeply flawed?"

      Kate Ellis: "Absolutely outrageous?"

      Tony Burke: "Inability?"

      Craig Emerson: "Poll driven?"

      Simon Crean: "He [Rudd] reneged on our deal, it was gutless,"

      Peter Garrett: “I’ll quit as Education Minister if there is a switch back to Kevin Rudd.”

      Wayne Swann: “I will not serve in his government”

      Graham Perrett: “I would resign from Parliament if Rudd made a comeback”

      Unnamed Labor M.P. : “I don’t like the way he’s carried on.’’

      Rodd Cameron: Do they really want Rudd?

      Gary Gray: “I think Kevin is confused.”

      Unpopular isn’t paralysis, sabotage, and chaos, poll driven, absolutely outrageous, deeply flawed, gutless, contemptible, operates with inability and with confused very bad behaviour to the extent Minister’s will quit their portfolios, others promise to quit parliament altogether? That’s not unpopular that’s unadulterated hatred and disunity.

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:25PM
  • Every day that he refuses to confirm an election date of Sept 14 or before, he is going to haemorrhage whatever votes he may have gained. The people don't want to be kept waiting any longer.

    Commenter
    Jase
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:06PM
    • Agree. And, people will start remembering just how much they diskiked him before and why. Quick election is his only chance. Are people forgeting that Tony Abbott was the person who killed him off the first time around. I think sinking KR again will be a more difficult task than sinking JG....just.

      Commenter
      Ed
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:15PM
  • Politically this could be one of the most uplifting and joyous periods in Australian political history.

    Keep up the great work everyone.

    Commenter
    Bondy
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:05PM
  • I note Abbott's whinging and whining already, as there's little else he can do. The next poll should be should Turnbull replace Abbot as leader.

    The timing could be exquisite for Labor if they go early, as it could take a month for the Libs to make up their mind who should lead their party.

    Commenter
    Bondy
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:02PM
    • I wouldn't be so cocky if I was you.

      Commenter
      Janet
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:28PM
    • It will not matter who is the Opposition Leader, Labor are going to decimated.
      How can Labor put forward Rudd as Leader when over half of the Party have told us how bad he was.
      They taking the people for fools.

      Commenter
      thepres
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:16PM
  • Could someone please ask our new Prime Minister how it can be that he is motivated purely by the desire to stop Tony Abbot becoming PM when he has single handedly done more than anyone to ensure that will happen? Can he also explain why if that is his true motivation he sabotaged the last election? Last time I checked sound character, honesty and integrity were requisite characteristics for the office of PM and I ask those glad to see Rudd return to properly analyse his credibility. I note with some irony that the Labour party have just re-elected Judas as there leader. Perhaps Mr Rudd can have this pointed out to him at his inevitable doorstep conference outside his local church this Sunday.

    Commenter
    Leighton
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:02PM
    • Perhaps you could ask someone how to spell 'Labor' before moving on to your other questions.

      Commenter
      Will
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:25PM
    • @Will:

      Perhaps you should be aware of Muphry's law when you are being the grammar police?

      Commenter
      Bob
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:17PM
  • This channel has become boring with the removal of the Punch and Julia Show.

    Commenter
    Scooter
    Location
    Kam Berra
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 2:01PM
  • Time to get over the sour grapes. We have a new PM going to the election. The rest is history. Just another day in the life of politics.

    Blame the media, blame the party, blame Kevin, blame whoever, it changes nothing now. Save your breath. The statistics are the reason why and no other reason.

    Main focus now is Liberal Party challenge from Turnbull, as clearly Abbot can't win now.

    The Age poll for today is holding firm at 62% in favour of Labor winning the next election after 203,320 votes registered.

    Even taking a pessimistic view it looks like Labor should win the election, based on those statistics.

    Commenter
    Bondy
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:59PM
    • It must be difficult to understand, but hey I'll try and help you. Perhaps I should speak slowwwwly. There is no challenge to Abbot, except in your mind.
      The only poll that counts will be the one at election time...changing the face won't change the result.I'm sure at some stage Rudd will trip over his monster ego and you guys will want to change leaders again....bring back Julia will be the cry!!!
      The fight within the Labor party is only beginning, the factions still remain and are just waiting for another opportunity.

      Commenter
      melboy
      Location
      melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:49PM
    • Hah that's what they ALL SAY. This will be fun because Labor have the policies the people want..the Coalition DO NOT. So now Labor have done the unthinkable and done exactly what the LNP and MSM have demanded, they're going to have to mop up :-)

      Commenter
      pugwash
      Location
      earth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:02PM
  • I look forward to the first COMRADE on this post to accuse TA of lying
    When Mr I wont ever challenge her Rudd is a blatant fibber
    Gotta zip folks

    Commenter
    paulk
    Location
    melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:53PM
  • Australian Politics must be the laughuing stock of the Inetrnational Community right now

    Commenter
    Bushman Jack
    Location
    Wheatsheaf
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:52PM
    • The Daily Mail in the UK states "Australian prime minister Julia Gillard bounced out after being photographed knitting a toy kangaroo for Kate's baby"

      So funny LOL

      Commenter
      jconnor
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:25PM
  • Good to see that Penny Wong and Bill Shorten have wasted no time in cosying up to KRudd. Looks like the 'difficult decisions' of the last few weeks have become distant memories.
    Nothing like a front bench spot to sooth the pain

    Commenter
    The Giant Mouse
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:51PM
    • Penny Wong is as incompetent as the rest of the mob. As for Shorten....a giant among rats.

      Commenter
      Ed
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:17PM
  • Oakeshott all class @ 1:38PM.

    In regards to the leadership spill, I think a lot of people have been tricked into forgetting that although Gillard was the first to instigate the battle for leadership (colorfully described as a 'knifing' by many), the Labor party went on to win the next election. Putting aside what's gone on since then, I think Abbott is drawing a long bow by stating 'we voted for Gillard but got Rudd' with a new leader the day before the Parliament is finished for the term.

    I think what a lot of Australians need to learn is critical thinking, and the ability to form an individual opinion given arguments presented by both the media and political statements.

    Commenter
    Benjamin
    Location
    Essendon
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:50PM
    • ALP did not win election, Gillard made deal with independents by promising benefits for their electorates, it is this same as bribing.

      Commenter
      sedona
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:26PM
    • most Australians need a decent education. I am sure we learned how Westminster works on the year 6 excursion to Canberra.
      no wonder we need Gonski.

      I don't recall Rudd. Howard, Gillard, Keating or Hawke ever appearing on my ballot paper.

      Commenter
      jools
      Location
      DaBra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:02PM
  • Ok let's see if I've got this right. Vested interests drive the popular press. The popular press drives the opinion polls. Opinion polls drive the government's Caucus. The Caucus selects the prime minister. Why don't we just give Gina Rinehart the prime ministership and have done with it? Look no brains involved at any level.

    Commenter
    oz-oldie
    Location
    Armidale
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:47PM
  • Rob Oakshot made a good valedictory speech. Both he and Windsor have noted that Julia Gillard honored her agreements with them - ask Andrew Wilkie - she cynically manipulated and then dumped him because it suited her. Perhaps it suited her to honor the others.

    Commenter
    helenB
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:43PM
  • Mr Rudd
    I dont and wont believe one word that flows from your mouth. You are beyond description.

    Commenter
    paulk
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:42PM
    • So sad to see photos of Hon Gillard in Parliament. She has handled herself with great dignity after being stabbed by many close friends. I recommend she goes to Bali for holidays when K Rudd meets SBY in Jakarta early next month. She can play mind games as K Rudd did to her for three years.

      Commenter
      Penguin
      Location
      Lakemba
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:48PM
    • Everyone knows Tony Abbott would say anything to become PM so I wouldn't believe a word he says either.

      Commenter
      Haggis
      Location
      North of Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:52PM
    • Well then it's just as well you've made no attempt then, isn't it?

      Commenter
      Party Stooge
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:55PM
    • That's a shock coming from paulk. Who would have thought?

      Commenter
      eyeroll
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:15PM
  • Yipee!! Kevin is back with his distinctive media style: always able to labour a point with his repetitive, repeated and 'saying the same thing again and again' style....and there are always 3...or 2 and then a phrase to say the same thing.

    Commenter
    Repetitive
    Location
    some rebuilding ex-labor state
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:40PM
    • Better than mealy mouthed 3 and 4 word inane slogans, used by Abbott, soley for bogans and rednecks ! LOL

      Commenter
      Piesnchess
      Location
      Mt Evelyn.
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:08PM
  • I guess when you dont pay attention what happened could appear sensational. In fact its not . O)n both sides of politics leaders ahve been displaced, its how Abbott became PM in waiting.

    Commenter
    G Sacramento
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:38PM
    • Does that make him similar te a Lady in Waiting? if so I hope he serves his master obsequiously for many a year yet.
      I wonder who he'll miss with his faulty swing when he loses yet another election shortly. Can't wait for his consignment to oblivion.

      Commenter
      Christopher
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:04PM
    • Yes but in opposition you are a leader whose isn't voted in by the general public.

      Two PM changes while in government and a hung parliament. It's just time to go to the election, if Rudd wins so be it. But it's time and the longer they wait the more angry and annoyed Australia will get.

      Commenter
      Dave
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:14PM
    • Dave, how many times does it have to be said? The PM is just whomsoever happens to lead the Government at the time. I am so say that one would have to be politically illiterate to vote for a Party on the bsis of its leader
      We do not have a presidential system here and the sooner Party leaders get that into their thick skulls the better - they are just our local MP.whom the party has elected captain.
      We DO elect our local MP

      Commenter
      Christopher
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:52PM
  • Now Abbott is scared. With Gillard he just had to sit back and win. Now he has a fight, and may lose.

    Let's see how long his party keep him given more people would vote for them if Turnbull was opposition leader.

    Commenter
    ij
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:37PM
    • Please check the Turnbull polls. Then see why he will not becoming back.

      Commenter
      annieq
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:57PM
    • I would vote for turnbull any day of the week over abbott. Now I will vote again for Kevin.

      Commenter
      pete
      Location
      western sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:05PM
    • Abbott scared of Rudd? He's alraedy seen him off once... Rudd is fairy floss - all spin, no substance; the sugar hit, then the sickly aftertaste tinged with regret.

      Commenter
      Jonathan C
      Location
      Petersham
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:15PM
    • @pete, you don't live in Rudd's electorate so you cannot vote for him. Too bad there are too many simpletons in this country that don't get this. .

      Commenter
      Phibes
      Location
      NSW
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:49PM
  • Kevin Rudd took the Oath of Office , it was an Oath, not an Affirmation. Watching the video, he had his own bible and put it on the GG's table. But, he did not touch the book when he swore the oath. I always thought that when you swore an oath you were supposed to place your hand on the bible (or appropriate religious book) or hold it while you took the oath. Apparently Kevin did not think this was necessary. Is what he did a bit like crossing your fingers behind your back when you make a promise? So, the question must be asked - is he legally sworn in to the office of PM?

    Commenter
    Menai Pete
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:33PM
    • You've been watching too many movies. But don't let your ignorance stop you from casting completely unjustified slurs at others.

      What do you reckon, God doesn't count it unless you're touching the Bible?

      Commenter
      Party Stooge
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:47PM
    • You don't have to swear on a bible.
      Typical Liberal, looking for a way to win that doesn't require having to do anything for themselves.

      Commenter
      Mathew
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:48PM
    • Legally you don't need a bible there at all. What a waste of a comment.

      Commenter
      Andy
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:00PM
    • As other respondents indicated, difference between oath and affirmation is that one is 'under God' and whether you touch a bible or not is irrelevant.

      Commenter
      Simon
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:19PM
    • Why would any sane person wish to place a hand on a book that they do not understand?

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:38PM
  • When oh when will us, the Australian public be given a chance to vote and finally put this sorry affair behind us.
    Rudd has not and will not change his style. Even last night the press gallery, like they had to do many many times before, simply had to wait for Kevin to turn up for his press conference. I'm so important you will just have to wait for me. A poor speech it was also. He has had 3 years to compose it.

    Please Please let us all vote as a matter of urgency.

    Commenter
    jojar
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:32PM
    • You speak an infinite detail about nothing.

      Commenter
      Bazza
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:43PM
  • With superannuation for politicians based on the highest office they've held, are we now looking to fork out even more tax payer money when they retire? Maybe this whole leadership rotation thing is just a Labor conspiracy to make sure that everyone gets a short stint on the front bench and the highest possible super ;)

    Commenter
    Art
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:28PM
    • That is truly an inane & ridiculous statement. Does this super 'thing' only apply to Labor?

      Commenter
      coolabine
      Location
      Adelaide
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:37PM
    • coolabine - a bit touchy are we? It was a joke!!!

      Commenter
      Art
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:41PM
    • Interesting how the negative comments and jokes are always about the side we don't support, but the comments are often the same, just change the names to suit.

      Commenter
      Frank
      Location
      Pennant Hills
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:54PM
    • because all Labor politicians love a free handout, get with the program

      Commenter
      Hornberger
      Location
      Singapore
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:05PM
  • Where's McTernan?

    Has someone checked the drains?

    Commenter
    Louis Cypher
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:26PM
    • McTernan's might be busy handing over to Alistair Jordan.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:33PM
    • Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong.
      Jean-Jacques Rousseau

      Commenter
      Bazza
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:40PM
    • Well Bazza it seems Ms Gillard has found that one out the hard way.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:49PM
    • Hopefully McTiernan is one 457 visa holder on the next plane. Proves the home grown workers are better at our jobs.

      Commenter
      Jenni
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:54PM
    • Louis - Try the circus maybe? End of the queue at Centrelink maybe? Attending a Women for Gillard meeting maybe?

      Commenter
      Smack
      Location
      City of the Fallen
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:48PM
    • Speaking of missing friends Smack, have you seen Buff or BillR around anywhere ?

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:51PM
  • I'm going to miss Rob Oakeshott and his optimistic demeanour.

    Commenter
    Srivatsa
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:23PM
    • Just wait for the next circus to arrive in town.

      The smiling, colourful man on the tricycle, with the big feet and red nose.

      That should help.

      Commenter
      Louis Cypher
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:37PM
    • He is to be commended for his contribution to the Nation along with Windsor. They can stand tall.

      Commenter
      Jenni
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:51PM
  • Yesterday's vote rewarded a bully who has been destabilising his party and the nation's government for three years....shameful!!

    Commenter
    disgusted
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:23PM
    • Well the next election will do the same.

      Commenter
      The Banker
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:43PM
    • And the vote in September will do likewise!

      Commenter
      Bob
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:58PM
  • Now that Julia Gillard is retiring from politics that makes Tony Abbott the most hated politician in Australia. It is good to be Number 1.

    Commenter
    Shane From Melbourne
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:22PM
    • You mean Rudd is the most hated politician in the land and most of that hate comes from his own party!

      Commenter
      terry
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:38PM
  • @ Weary. disagree, whats not to like about San Miguel?

    Commenter
    Fanta Pants
    Location
    Hong Kong
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:17PM
  • Could some one please explain very slowly to Tony Abbott on his next bike ride, that the reason Julia Gillard was replaced as PM was that the Coalition, certain media outlets and his good self rubbished just about everything she did. This resulted in bad polls .Game Set and Match.

    Commenter
    Rod
    Location
    the Coast
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:16PM
    • you know it was mr Rudd and his merry men who did the deed over many many months.
      Why Abbott bash? partisan are you?

      Commenter
      SK Ared
      Location
      act
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:22PM
    • SK

      It was Tony who got up and asked the Question in the Parliament as to why the PM was replaced?

      If you call that a bashing you should try listening to the "Shock Jocks" talking about the PM

      Commenter
      Rod
      Location
      the Coast
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:14PM
  • Interesting photo at 12.52.

    The Labor leader, and the Labor leader in waiting.

    Tweedle dumb, and tweedle dee

    Commenter
    Louis Cypher
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:16PM
  • The Labor party has not changed PM. Kevin is not even contemplating challenging. IT IS ALL MEDIA SPECULATION. No body organised a challenge nobody was plotting behind the scenes. The Yellow media need to focus on the real issues like POLICY, and stop reporting these schoolyard rumours that have no basis in fact. (Fully SIC)

    Commenter
    Cwitty
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:15PM
  • So Kevin13 has actually proceeded with the 457 visa 'crackdown'. How disappointing. New leader, same bunch of union shills and stooges. Does Rudd think he will reverse Labor's fortunes simply by being the unions' hapless figurehead and not actually changing any policy? Seems he still has that old Kevin arrogance then!

    Commenter
    AdamC
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:15PM
    • You are disappointed that business must make a token attempt to hire Australians first before hiring foreign labour? How dare Labor try to keep jobs on our own soil being filled by actual Australians. Who do they think they are! Next thing they will strive to do is keep unemployment low, those dirty rats.
      I'm against low unemployment, and against Australians actually working in jobs that could be taken by foreigners, hence why I support Abbott.

      Commenter
      Really?
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:01PM
    • Immigration does not create unemployment. Burdening businesses with unnecessary regulatory requirements, on the other hand, does. Wasn't this government, under both Julia and Kevin, supposed to be about cutting red tape? Another broken promise, I suppose. You only have to look at Julia Gillard to see where being excessively obsequious towards the unions gets a Labor leader.

      Commenter
      AdamC
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:29PM
  • Amazing how quickly people forget what Rudd actually did last time he was in the big chair. I think the honeymoon will be very short and somewhere out there today will be an RAAF flight attendant weeping...

    Commenter
    Art
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:14PM
    • Hopefully Australia's equivalent of Air Force One will be equipped with multiple Rhemington Hair Dryers - you never know when you could forget yours - and who'd want to be seen in Afghanistan having a bad hair day!

      Commenter
      Chameleon
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:22PM
  • Yet another federal election victory for Rupert Murdoch, regardless of whether the next godbothering fascist to inhabit the Lodge comes from NSW or Queensland.

    Commenter
    Pig Iron Bob
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:12PM
  • It looks like purple ties is the order of the day. I bet they're not game to wear blue ties any time soon.

    Commenter
    Rosie
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:11PM
  • I hope the next poll has Turnbull in it so Libs know can ponder their numbers of Abbott vs Turnbull in beating Labor. Although the chances of Turnbull becoming leader is almost zero, I will still vote Lib, with the hope Turnbull gets his chance after the election. Bishop is just a display female (and safe) deputy for Abbott.

    Commenter
    Hopeful
    Location
    Perth
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:09PM
    • About time the media started chasing that ghost story about turnbull testing the waters on leadership now that KRudd is going to be ahead of Tony.

      Commenter
      Scotty16
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:01PM
  • "Speaker Anna Burke warns Mr Abbott about the turn his speech has taken."

    Is Abbott drunk? Quick tell Wayne?

    Commenter
    Pen of hrba
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:08PM
  • We need an election now, labor is of the opinion the country is run on a popularity contest, yet the labor factions control the sitting PM like a puppet until self interest consumes every fibre of their pathetic bodies. Labor cannot be trusted they are habitual liars and have no regard for the Australian people. I will never vote Labor not now and not in the future. At least with Liberal, one thing is guaranteed, we will be back in a surplus and they will grow business which has been starved and strangled to death by the current Labor government. Labor are not fit and proper to govern the Country nor are they deserving of being elected for another term.

    Commenter
    MSaffy123
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:06PM
    • The situation is multi faceted, but go ahead and give us your spin.

      Can we have substance with that too please

      Commenter
      Master Blaster
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:29PM
  • Mr Abbott demands an "explanation for tearing down a Prime Minister" . . . Tony Abbott has done nothing but play the woman for three years and drag the level of debate to the most putrid levels in our nation's history. Always the liar and hypocrite. This profoundly untruthful, self seeking and mean spirited person is clearly unfit for office and I look forward to the defeat of the Coalition at the coming election.

    Commenter
    Tyalgum Treehugger
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:05PM
    • Only if Tony goes first.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:02PM
  • Policies please gentlemen.

    Commenter
    RayS
    Location
    Pilbara
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:03PM
  • An explanation of Tony Abbott's policies would suffice!

    Commenter
    Ruth
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:03PM
    • ..........................
      Not sure if that's his policies or the explanation of them

      Commenter
      Mathew
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:23PM
  • This is so much fun listening to the whinging liebrals!!...keep going gang hahaha.

    Commenter
    Steeden
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:01PM
    • Not wrong, made my day!

      Commenter
      TheSurrealist
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:32PM
    • and u are doing what exactly?? remember to pay your extra dollars to your union so they can prop up your Labor party buddy

      Commenter
      Hornberger
      Location
      Singapore
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:09PM
    • It's hilarious. They are bitterly and desperately trying to paint him with the same brush as Gillard, but he hasn't been calling the shots for 3 years!

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:12PM
    • @ Hornberger in Singapore. Spoken like a true tax dodger.

      Commenter
      DanB
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:07PM
  • I note that both sides are now running the line that their leader has changed/grown.

    I expect both sides will be looking for whatever they can find to suggest the other guy hasn't really changed but the funny thing is you can't really call the others spot changing suspect without undermining the premise of your own reformation. Won't stop them trying tho. Not to mention that spruiking the change draws attention to the past.

    Isn't personality politics fun?

    Commenter
    wonk_arama
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:01PM
  • @Tone LocationMelbourne

    Lots of invective Tone. I'm just guessing you are a Labor staffer. None of your comments show any merit....just more dross.

    Commenter
    melbourne
    Location
    melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:00PM
    • Wrong!

      My first preference vote is worth $2.47. Why would I want to give it to either of these blood sucking leeches called political parties?

      Haven't decided who I will vote for first, but Labor will be 2nd and Liberals last.

      Of course, this question only arises because you're having a bitter day being a Liberal Loser and all.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:03PM
  • And the circus continues. They all lie but Julia Gillard took Australian politics to its lowest level ever with her blatant lies especially Carbon Tax. How though can any thinking person believe a word Rudd says? He said he wouldn't challenge for PM again and here he is back as PM which I'm starting to think is an acronym for Political Moron judging by those who've been in the job since Labor took power. Rudd is a vindicative, egotistal meglomaniac and for anyone who thinks he's changed, remember leopards don't change their spots. The Australian people want an election NOW, so let's get on with it and not go through another couple of months of this Labor circus.

    Commenter
    Lulubelle
    Location
    Gosford
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 1:00PM
  • As we move political commentary from print, to screen, to mobile device care is needed not to replace stuff at the heart of the economy with vapid noise. This is also a game changer for journalists. We are all in the same room now. We are much wiser to partisan comment. It is the public and not media owners who will shape this election. And that is a good thing.

    Commenter
    bloogsblowingby
    Location
    Blue Mountains NSW
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:59PM
  • 1) If the party can depose a leader it can determine what a leader's political agenda is. In short, it doesn't matter who the leader is the larger party determines the agenda.

    2) The main motivation for this change is that bulk of the labor party see that they are toast, and, don't want to lose their jobs, pay checks and cushy lifestyle so they are putting up a new figurehead that the dopey public will fall in love with, for a short time, and vote for.
    3) All politicians are essentially just bad people who want to help themselves to your money, determine what you can and can't do, and give themselves phoney titles such as 'honourable' which are the opposite of who and what they actually are.

    Commenter
    nick
    Location
    bondi junction apple store
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:56PM
  • So let me get this straight, the people of Australia (not including myself) vote for K. Rudd and Julia ends up being PM. Then Julia gets voted in (albeit shonkily) and now K Rudd is PM? So if, God forbid. he wins again who will be leading them next?

    Commenter
    DennisV
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:56PM
    • Get this straight, we vote for a party and the leader is chosen by the party. If you want o vote for a head then agitate for a republic.

      Commenter
      AndreP
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:05PM
    • Rudd, of course. All his opponents have resigned.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:07PM
    • Anyone but Abbott, we hope.

      Commenter
      biggerthan
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:08PM
    • Only the people of Kevin Rudd's electorate voted him in actually. Go back to school.

      Commenter
      Herself
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:09PM
    • I see you have your Tony Abbot song sheet to hand...

      Commenter
      metoo
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:09PM
    • I think very few get to vote for Rudd, Gillard or Abbott. The names haven't been on a ballot paper that I filled out.

      Commenter
      Dafydd
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:09PM
    • Your vote didn't go to K Rudd. It went to the local member.
      The labor party elected their leader who is referred to as PM

      Commenter
      RayS
      Location
      Pilbara
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:16PM
    • If Rudd wins the election, with anything but a significant margin, Shorten will take the first opportunity to knife him.

      Commenter
      AdamC
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:16PM
    • TA, your using a screen name now!

      Commenter
      Mathew
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:20PM
    • Everybody knows, oh surly righteous ones, that you vote for your local Federal candidate...however sometimes, for some people, the leader of the party can encourage you to vote for that party's local candidate. So quick to jump on people, to have your little snide digs. Yes I am talking about you @Herself.

      Commenter
      thereisnoyouinLabor
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:23PM
    • In Australia you vote for the party, not the individual. Despite kRudds best efforts to change it, Australian politics are meant to be party driven, not ego driven.

      Commenter
      Winston
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:24PM
    • She was not voted in...

      Commenter
      Pat Rat
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:25PM
    • Well it is one thing to change PMs but when the whole front bench is changed that is a worry. And Bowen as treasurer?? God help us

      Commenter
      DennisV
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:25PM
    • DennisV - I vote for my local member and I assume you do - so are you saying the people in KRudd's electorate and then Gillard's electorate have some god given right to vote for the PM or as I suspect - you have no idea that the PM is elected by the party with the numbers on the house or reps floor. You are a fine example of the Aust population..

      Commenter
      kcabotkcab
      Location
      melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:26PM
    • Gee Dennis, did you think of that question all by yourself, or are you just copying what Tony Abbott had to say.

      Show us your policies!

      Commenter
      Master Blaster
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:27PM
    • No, the people of Rudd's seat voted for him. Everyone else in Australia (should have) voted for who they wanted to be their representative in... wait for it... the House of Representatives. Can The Age please write an article explaining to the country that unlike the US we dont actually get to vote on the executive, a PM is not a President!

      Commenter
      Get with it
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:34PM
    • Yes, you vote for your local member not the PM. It is obvious however that so many potential Labor voters don't know this as overnight they have changed their potential vote to Labor due to Rudd overthrowing Gillard....or returning....or whatever it is that Labor have done this time.

      Commenter
      BAG
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:37PM
    • Sorry, that line's been used too often today. Ask your boss to come up with some variants, thanks.

      Commenter
      Simon
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:17PM
  • So if Rudd manages to get Labor over the line at the election, who will be PM in two years time? They rolled Rudd, then they rolled Gillard for Rudd again. When was the last time that a Federal Labor PM actually served their term right through to an election?? (Or even a NSW state premier for that matter)

    Labor, where your worst enemies are on your own team.

    Commenter
    BAG
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:56PM
    • Why do you think this is a Labor phenomenon? Victorians voted in Baillieu at the last election and now we have Napthine.

      Commenter
      Dags
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:06PM
    • The PM will be the leader of the party with the majority on the house of reps floor -as has always been the case - the people do NOT vote for the PM no matter what the media have you believe.

      Commenter
      kcabotkcab
      Location
      melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:28PM
    • Read the post Dags. I stated Federal and NSW.

      You are correct that it is not an entirely Labor thing, however it is a LOT more common in Labor. Can you name another time in the last 20 years it has happened in a Liberal camp? Between NSW and Federal Labor it has happened something like 5 or 6 times in the last 10 years.

      Commenter
      BAG
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:42PM
    • kcabotkcab is correct, and it is amazing how many people do not understand this. There is still the possibility that Rudd will not win his seat...then we have some more Labor deck chair shuffles.

      Commenter
      BAG
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:10PM
    • Paul Keating 93-6. next?

      Commenter
      Peter Warrington
      Location
      marrickville
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:11PM
  • Load of hypocrites and Rudd is the worst!

    Commenter
    boocuddles
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:54PM
  • I can explain Gillard's non appearance in parliament today, as the lodge has called for more boxes of tissues.

    Commenter
    Garry of Melbourne
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:50PM
  • Looks like the Liberals have brought their full bag of tricks into parliament today.... Calling divisions every 5 mins and wasting everyones time & money. Disgraceful.

    Commenter
    Sam
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:48PM
    • Remind me which party was infighting when they were supposed to be running the country.

      Commenter
      adrian
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:07PM
    • Yep, Abbott's back playing his games as usual. And denying it. Just like his mentor Howard. Worst opposition leaders ever.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:11PM
    • Typical monkey business from the chimp and co.

      Commenter
      TheSurrealist
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:20PM
  • Thta is one of the best tongue-in-cheek ripostes I have read,Tone, And to think that people actually believe that KRudd saved us from the GFC. Whats he going to do now that China has put on the brakes and is slowing down. Of course, have a weekly meeting with the Chinese, advising them how to kick start their economy..

    Commenter
    Albo
    Location
    Under a bigger rock
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:46PM
  • Great to see the Libs stooges and party hacks on here panicking and down in the dumps, just like their Leader and his cronies will be in Parlt. Expect to see a very down in the mouth Abbott this arvo, now HE knows Rudd back IS a real game changer, its game on now, full on. Rudd is massively popular with the average punter, whereas Teflon Tones approval rating is nearly as bad as Julias was. Hes just lost his best asset in Gillard, and knows hes in for a real fight on his hands now. He might have to actually bring out a policy or two, and do some real work for a change ! LOL

    Commenter
    Piesnchess
    Location
    Mt Evelyn
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:43PM
    • Get a grip on yourself Pies, do you really think Rudd is a 'changed man', he's spent the last three years as a serial liar.

      Anyone with a smidgen of self respect in the Labor cabinet is now on the backbench to get away from him.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:14PM
    • Lol, Conroy has self respect? Gimme a break!

      Commenter
      TheSurrealist
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:31PM
    • I said a smidgen, it would be unkind to bestow a smaller, if more accurate unit of quantity.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      being kind to Stephen Conroy
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:46PM
    • Haha what an outrageous ALP bias - Clearly you don't realise how silly you sound with that statement.

      Commenter
      Elijah Baley
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:47PM
    • Hardly the point, SteveH, when Tony finds himself so far back in the polls - AND the polls asking questions about Abbott's popularity in relation to Turnbull.
      Oh frabjous day.
      BUT we actually still need to find a Party worthy of forming Gov after the next election - nothing on the horizon right now.

      Commenter
      Christopher
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:56PM
  • It really doesn't matter what the new line-up looks like as the same policies and bills before the house continue as though Gillard was PM. All they have done is change the deck chairs in hope that under Rudd they won't lose as many seats after the next federal election. Same old, same old only more division in the ALP.

    Commenter
    Tony of Kureelpa
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:41PM
  • I think many people posting today have amnesia. This is The Rudd that stuck us with the current border protection policy. The man of the fuel watch, grocery watch, peoples's forum, school halls debacle etc etc etc. The man with the hair flick affectation and a propensity to fly off the handle if a meal was not served correctly or his hair dryer wasn't available.
    This is a strange man with a narcissistic streak and a pompous self belief that made him stalk Gillard for 3 years just to get revenge. He isn't interested in you and I just himself. The gratification of forcing Gillard to retire his sole aim.
    Remember all this people that now hail him as savior.

    Commenter
    Saxon
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:41PM
    • Yep, he's just like Abbott, it's all ME ME ME.

      The only thing Abbott wouldn't do to become Prime Minister is sell his arse, that's all.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:14PM
    • Spot on...sadly this won't be focused on

      Commenter
      disgusted
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:24PM
  • Turnbull, Turnbull, Turnbull. oi, oi, oiiiii!.

    Commenter
    Blanik
    Location
    Narthern Country
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:41PM
  • Well here we are with a cracking good plot and a well written script for a new series of 'Ýes Minister' .All we need is some one to put up the money for the new show. Just raise the Taxes a little and there will plenty for a sequel as well!

    Commenter
    Supergran
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:39PM
  • What becomes of the folks who paid $12,600 to have dinner with Ms Gillard at either The Lodge or Kirribilli House? Is the $12,600 refunded? Does the invite now change to dinner with Mr Rudd? Hope the winning bidders weren't Emily's Listers!

    Commenter
    Westie
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:36PM
  • Dont get too comfortable Kevin. Dont unpack your boxes, your jobs short lived. This is just another way to win votes, do they really think people are that stupid.

    Commenter
    lol
    Location
    sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:36PM
    • Yes they are, just look at the preferred leader polls :)

      Commenter
      AndreP
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:07PM
    • Actually, by and large I think they are. Which is why the Conservatives' policies are mostly slogans - easier for people who are "that stupid" (your words) to understand and vote for. The political discourse is so dire because the main parties have been engaged in a race to the bottom to secure their votes.

      Commenter
      Niall
      Location
      Darwin
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:07PM
  • I don't know whether you think Combet and Conroy were effective or if you think they were incompetent...but there's one thing we CAN agree on - they were incompetent.

    Commenter
    Weary
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:32PM
  • Our national poet sums it up well: "When I was King, the second time... I was a king who held the reins, and I had brains, and what was more, I was a man, called to the throne in stormy times, I had to fight, and not with rhymes, my own self and kindred first, and after that my friends and foes, and when I'd fairly conquered those, I ruled the land a king indeed... I'll show the fools just once that I can look as well as be a king"
    (When I was King, Henry Lawson, 1905)

    Commenter
    bloogsblowingby
    Location
    Blue Mountains NSW
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:30PM
    • Paul - on the contrary, a Gillard ALP would have been wiped out come election.

      I am relieved that even if power-mad Abbott gets in, he is unlikely to control the Senate.

      Commenter
      GuybrushThreepwood
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:29PM
    • Paul - on the contrary, a Gillard ALP would have been wiped out come election.

      I am relieved that even if power-mad Abbott gets in, he is unlikely to control the Senate.

      Commenter
      GuybrushThreepwood
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:29PM
  • BTW I almost forgot...who did win the football last night?

    Commenter
    5612
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:28PM
    • There was football on ?

      On TV I noticed a bunch of Queenslanders in maroon jumpers filling a stadium, but presumed they were all waiting for the Messiah's second coming.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:02PM
  • Memo to Mrs. Rudd: step back just a little, please.

    Commenter
    charles794
    Location
    Healesville
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:26PM
    • The Voters wants Labour Party change their Roles & rgulations that the Cocus will never be able to change an elected person byany means.

      Commenter
      Ken
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:35PM
    • Is that Mrs Rudd? I thought the sun had fallen.

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:43PM
    • Ken - after I translated your mumbo jumbo into English, it seems that you're attempting to blame the Labor party (note the lack of 'u') for the entire Westminster parliamentary system, that also exists in other countries. Is this actually what you meant?

      Commenter
      Herself
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:58PM
    • Why? She's a smart, successful woman who's achieved much in business. I would have thought a Tory like yourself would love her for her success.

      Shows how bitter and nasty you lot are.

      Commenter
      innerwestchick
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:59PM
    • You mean - like Janine Howard stepped back? Huh?
      Someone has to Rein his ego in!
      BTW Rudd owes the Rabbit nothing. What's a rabbit when it's full of itself?
      Jugged.
      We do have Gillard to thank for the Communidy of Mr Rabbit the Warren Trust

      Commenter
      Christopher
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:04PM
    • Misogyny alert!

      Misogyny alert!

      Commenter
      Louis Cypher
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:11PM
  • What a disgrace this Labor government is as a family unit, they will stab each other in the back, say yes when they mean no, support when they don't, lie unrepentantly, exhibit profanity, and change their principals for self survival, going forward Australia will not prosper and survive under this government.

    Commenter
    Garry of Melbourne
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:25PM
    • Garry, how do you think Tony Abbott got to be leader! faceless men and a stab in the back to the popular Malcolm Turnbull.

      Commenter
      Tin
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:40PM
    • In that regard a milder version of the LNP
      In the last 10 years LNP 4 leaders.
      Labor 2

      Commenter
      RayS
      Location
      Pilbara
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:00PM
    • Tories are really frothing at the mouth this morning.

      That, if anything, should tell people something about how terrified they are by Rudd's comeback.

      Commenter
      innerwestchick
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:01PM
    • That's the good side of Labor. You need to include the carbon tax scam; the NDIS scam; the Gonski that is not a Gonski scam; the NBN cost blow out and asbestos pit scam; the 100% tariff hike for the cheapest and most ineffective green energy infrastructure scam; and the 200% increase in coal production to stuff up the green energy infrastructure scam; not forgetting the scam of billions given to the local car industry and unions while ruling over lower import tariffs on imported cars.

      Oh and Rudd changing Medibank from non-profit to tax paying entity for reason of $850 million in fees and extra taxes, realising third yearly increase in Medibank fees. Labor’s cagey methodology of further tax imposts realised $8000,000,000: Alcopops tax, New tax on Australians working overseas, Cutting superannuation tax-free contributions, Restrictions on business losses, Changes to Employee Share Scheme, Cigarette tax 25% increase, Mining tax, Ethanol tax increase, LPG excise increase, Further restrictions on medical expenses before claiming tax refund, luxury car tax increase, Flood tax, Tax increase on company cars, Abolition of Entrepreneurs’ Tax Offset, Phasing out of Dependent Spouse Tax Offset, Disallowance of deductions against government assistance payments, Removing minors’ eligibility for the low income tax offset on unearned income, and deferral of Tax Breaks for Green Buildings?

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:02PM
    • @Tin. It was nothing of the sort. I'm sure it was immaculate ascension to the leadership.

      Commenter
      RC
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:07PM
  • Did anyone else hear abbott say the people voted julua gillard into office last night? He's been complaining about the illegitimacy of her government since the last election! And then he went on to say the game playing should stop.
    Changes his tune at the drop of a hat doesn't he?

    Commenter
    BridgetW
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:25PM
    • Last week Bill Shorten said he would support Julia Gillard into the next election. I thought that was quite the change of tune.
      It's Abbott's job to apply negativity to the current leader in any way he can, no surprises there really, Julia's reputation is now irrelevant in election terms.

      Commenter
      Doug
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:44PM
  • Brilliant, the cloud of injustice of a fair go that was so un Australian has been lifted. Fantastic result for all Australians as it not only enables but also puts more pressure on both Parties to produce the Diamond policies that will raise the quality of living for our Nation. Win Win scenario

    Commenter
    Many colors
    Location
    Geelong
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:23PM
  • I had planned to not vote at all (couldn't stomach Gillard, don't trust Abbott and despise the Greens) but now I'll vote and Rudd will get it.

    Commenter
    dave 51
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:21PM
    • Democracy in action.

      An intelligent, considered response.

      Well done!

      Commenter
      Louis Cypher
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:35PM
    • This shows people such as yourself should not have the right to vote. So they changed leaders - can you please advise what has REALLY changed? Nothing. Also, do you not remember Rudd was a terrible PM. So you would vote for anyone that can talk the talk aye? People with this attitude make me worry about the election coming up.

      Commenter
      mc
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:41PM
    • But Dave... You are not voting for Rudd, unless you do live in his electorate. You are voting for the party, the ALP.

      And it's the same party... Run by the same Union leaders... Under the covers, nothing has changed.

      Think Dave.

      Commenter
      Hanging Judge Jeffries
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:50PM
    • Actually you are voting for your local Labor candidate but then like many you don't even know who that is. If anything you should know about our system is you don't vote for the Leader the party does, if only Australians understood their own political system.

      Commenter
      The Sceptic
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:51PM
    • Unless you live in all their electorates at once, there is no possible way you could have such a choice.

      It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant people are about how our political system works. You vote for your local member, not for the PM.

      Commenter
      Herself
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:00PM
    • Who says KRudd was a bad PM, apart from the unions, and who cares what they think?

      Commenter
      Norm
      Location
      Maroubra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:04PM
    • Oh dear, what a fussy eater. You won't grow up big and strong if you don't eat your greens! And clearly you are suffering from dyspepsia - so please give your diet much better consideration. It will improve your concentraion and your judgement will improve at the same time.

      Commenter
      Christopher
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:11PM
  • Lets face it - Rudd is two-faced, self-centered, arrogant & a mico-manager who doesn't manage well. Abbot is a loose cannon who has brain fades. However, the last time I looked this was the current choice - unless you think the Greens could run a country !! Pick on policy and forget the leaders - they are a distraction.

    Commenter
    SteveJ
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:15PM
    • Where is a drover's dog when you want one!

      Commenter
      Bazza
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:26PM
    • Nice @Bazza - Dogs are very likeable, intelligent and loyal. But those traits won't work in politics !

      Commenter
      SteveJ
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:42PM
  • "There's colors on the street
    Red, white and blue
    People shufflin' their feet
    People sleepin' in their shoes
    But there's a warnin' sign
    on the road ahead
    There's a lot of people sayin'
    we'd be better off dead
    Don't feel like Satan,
    but I am to them
    So I try to forget it,
    any way I can...."

    Commenter
    af612
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:15PM
  • Reckon the return of Ruddster will wipe that overconfident and far too cocky sneer off Abbott and Hockeys face anyway finally.. Its game on, now folks, bigtime. NOW they have a real fight on their hands, and actually have to do some real work in selling their hidden policies.

    Commenter
    Piesnchess
    Location
    Mt Evelyn
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:14PM
  • @ Innerwestchick 11:24 a.m.

    Do you mean speaking to the electorate in terms like "programmatic specificity", like treating RAAF crew members like dirt, or like swearing about the alleged mistakes of junior staff? Ideals and convictions like Kevvy describing himself before the 2007 election as "an economic conservative" and then as PM, being anything but that? Ideals and convictions like Kevvy saying "climate change is the moral imperative of this generation" then shelving his plans? Ideals and convictions that led to such policy successes like Grocery Watch, Fuel Watch, Pink Batts, asylum seekers, and the mining tax version 1?

    Commenter
    Tim [unfortunately not from Altona]
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:13PM
    • The mining tax was awesome. But the mining companies somehow managed to convince people that they somehow didn't deserve to make any money from the minerals in the ground, which are the property of the Commonwealth. The tax itself was only ever on super profits. Massive profits. And never kicked in until the companies achieved massive profits. The watering down of this policy was all on Gillard and hopefully we can revert to the far better mining tax version 1.

      Pink Batts was also an exceptional policy. Hastily executed to try to prevent us from experiencing the GFC, but exceptional policy because it essentially meant improving energy efficiency for the most of the population. It is almost single handedly responsible for reduced energy consumption and the main component in the reduction in pollution.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:24PM
    • Yes I really enjoyed Rudd's claim that internet sites could fix high petrol and grocery prices being shown up for what is was - populist claptrap designed to fool the public into believing that Rudd could alleviate their cost of living pressures. What a fool we now have back in power.

      Commenter
      obesenation
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:27PM
    • I will be very glad to hear wonky terms like 'programmatic specifity' thrown about rather than populist redneck sloganeering like 'Stop the Boats'! As to Labor policy it is way superior to anything we've seen from the LNP so far... NBN, carbon tax, education reforms etc etc

      Commenter
      Deano
      Location
      Bondi
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:28PM
    • @Tone
      Actually the minerals are the property of the States, not the Commonwealth.

      Commenter
      Scooter
      Location
      Kam Berra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:48PM
  • Whatever your politics, Tony Abbott is too great a risk for Australia. Now is not the time for self determinism. Rudd knows how to lead and improve ALP policy to benefit more Australians. Keep it positive people. Journalists need to stop speaking like they are elected politicians. Politicians must communicate clearly with the public. Bob Carr gave Tony Jones a good whipping last night. Too many journalists have bought into negative spin. Social media will change this election, but it is worth speaking like someone you would listen to at the pub, not the idiot at the counter that everyone ignores.

    Commenter
    bloogsblowingby
    Location
    Blue Mountains
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:12PM
    • Why is Abbott too great a risk? Because the Labor spin machine told you so?

      Commenter
      P Rowland
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:21PM
    • Rudd know how to lead? Sorry, but that's patently untrue. He couldn't even lead his own party, he definately can't lead the country. And I'm backed up by precedent on this one.

      Commenter
      Weary
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:28PM
    • No, because Abbott himself told us so.

      In his speech to the IPA, a lobby group of the mega rich, Abbott said "that's a yes to many of the 75 issues you've put to me"

      These issues are things like privatising the ABC, setting up the Northern Australia Special Economic Zone so that the mega rich can pay less tax, and removing all media protection.

      His speech is here:
      http://www.tonyabbott.com.au/LatestNews/Speeches/tabid/88/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/9135/Address-to-Institute-of-Public-Affairs-70th-Anniversary-Dinner-Melbourne.aspx

      The IPA's list of 75 issues is on page 10 here:
      http://ipa.org.au/library/publication/1345447840_document_be_like_gough.pdf

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:31PM
    • You don't call what labour politicians have done to each other as underhanded, come on. They have treated the Australian public as mugs. It is time for a Liberal government to be elected by a leader that has vision and morals, that man is Tony Abbott.

      Commenter
      Andrew
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:40PM
    • He is a risk because all his policies are poor (Direct Action, copper-based NBN) or populist thought bubbles (maternity payments for wealthy mothers at full wage). Further, he makes promises which he knows he can't keep, eg. turning back boats to Indonesia.

      Commenter
      Dags
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:40PM
    • Whatever your politics, Kevin Rudd has proven to be a too greater a risk to Australia for him to have a second go as PM.
      There was no boat people problem when he came to office but in early 2008 he shut down program that worked very well and as a result there have been over 45,000 boat people since Rudd changed the system. The cost is over $2billion per year because of what Rudd did.
      He promised not to Supa, not one dot yet he did make changes in his very first Budget and there have been 12 changes since taking over $8billion from people's Supa Acc.
      He promised not to touch the PHI rebate yet he tried in 2009 and we all know what they did.

      Rudd was used by the ALP as a vehicle to get into Office in 2007 then he was dumped when his numbers went south and they are again trying to hood wink the Aust public to vote for the ALP but as you all know as soon as his poll numbers go south so will he. Or will the faceless men standby Rudd no matter how low his polling numbers get?
      When will Rudd tell the Aust people the real reason he challenged Gillard after promising never to do it again?

      Commenter
      seen it before
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:44PM
    • The risk is that the conservatives will deal up savage cuts and set inequality in concrete.

      It's bad now. It'll be worse then.

      Commenter
      Bluey
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:00PM
  • Abbott has already blundered. He should have forced Rudd to commit to an election date before giving up the NCM.

    If Rudd makes him stew while 'the PM' issues thought bubbles and ponces around in the trappings of office for three months, he has nobody but himself to blame.

    Commenter
    Simon
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:10PM
    • Five of the seven independents/Green indicated support for Rudd. He wouldn't have won it and would have looked silly trying the NCM.

      Commenter
      P Rowland
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:18PM
    • What? More silly than he already looks? I don't think that is possible.

      Commenter
      Jon
      Location
      Torquay
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:31PM
  • Olde Bjelke Petersen was right. Just watch the fascinating sight of all the little journo chickens scurrying around the foul yard, collecting itsy bitsy teeny weeny bits of crap from the big bird pollies.
    It's great fun, Beats trying to find jobs that aren't there for people who don't want an olde fart anyway.
    Journalists don't like to be criticised. They flutter around like demented spirits and feel that their ethics are open to question.

    Commenter
    5612
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:10PM
  • So now the Labor front bench are one, big happy family. Right ?

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:08PM
    • I'm sure the Liberals are a really happy family now...

      BTW, my Dad is a rusted on supporter of Liberals who hates Tony Abbott. He doesn't believe that the Liberals are the same people he used to support. He's even talking about voting for someone else. But put Malcolm Turnbull in charge and all bets are off.

      Commenter
      Tom
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:12PM
    • There's a front bench left?

      Commenter
      Louis Cypher
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:12PM
    • Tom you tell your Daddy to vote for whoever he likes, thats what big boys do.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:19PM
    • And I'm sure Joyce is moving to the Reps because he prefers the green leather and Turnbull has misplaced his field marshall's baton. Who had the one vote majority again?

      Of course they're not one big happy family, neither are the other side. Ambition and opportunity. Plenty of that for all.

      Commenter
      wonk_arama
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:33PM
    • Don't worry SteveH he will. He was a Liberal Lover much like yourself, but he appears to have become enlightened now that he has retired.

      Commenter
      Tom
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:53PM
    • Tom, don't worry I won't worry, its of little concern to me who gets to ruin the country.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:36PM
    • Perhaps Swannie can throw Chris Bowen a Dorothy:

      "When does the Treasurer expect the budget to return to surplus ?"

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:15PM
    • SteveH the way you rant and rave it seems like you really want it to be Abbott to ruin the country.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:59PM
  • Mickey Arthur gets axed as coach of the cricket team just before the Ashes, Julia Gillard gets axed as Labor leader just before the election. Santa Claus will be getting nervous in early December.

    Commenter
    D
    Location
    CBD
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:03PM
  • there needs to be more focus on abbots faults and what he doesnt have to be prime minister, no one should let that idiot run our country. Even Malcom Fraser said on national tv that abbot would say and do anything to be PM, he is a political vacuum basically and all he can talk about is asylum seakers??? do they have any other policies to offer? No they dont. This should be highlighted.

    The office of prime minister is one that is elected by the party but once that party is elected by the people, it should be enshrined in law that he/she cannot be removed short of mental, physical, organic impediments that totally make it impossible for them to function in their role and they should get behind their leader and work together for the welfare of the nation,

    Commenter
    Demonizer
    Location
    Frankston, vic
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 12:01PM
  • The Morgan Poll taken after the change of Leadership shows a 10 point swing to the ALP - now 50/50 in the election race.

    Commenter
    zacca
    Location
    adelaide
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:57AM
    • watch the ALP numbers ebb away.... even the ALP pollster said before the leadership change that any bump will be shortlived. Buggered if I know who they ask in these polls, I didn't know there were so many 'idiots' listed in the white pages.

      Commenter
      Fanta Pants
      Location
      Hong Kong
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:04PM
    • Woopty Doo, Neither major parties deserve the vote of intelligent person

      Commenter
      Rick
      Location
      Tamworth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:05PM
    • Less than 24 hours

      Everyone loves a new (recycled?) puppy

      Commenter
      Louis Cypher
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:11PM
    • I realised Morgan has SMS'd the poll to me at 8:05pm last night, they move quickly, huh!

      Commenter
      GuybrushThreepwood
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:20PM
    • History has shown that the "honeymoon period" usually last about three months. Unless there is a change of date, the election will take place in just under three months. If there is a shift to talking about policies instead of personalities, I wouldn't expect these Labor numbers to ebb away much before the election. We know what the Labor policies are - The Coalition has a lot of explaining to do as to how their policies will actually work and why they are superior to Labor's.

      Commenter
      Dags
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:21PM
    • Louis Cypher.....Are you trying to say polls don't matter? I bet Malcom in the Middle has a spring in his step suddenly.

      Commenter
      Reset the game
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:26PM
    • Give it about another 7 days when everyone re familiarises themselves with Rudd the ego maniac, nutjob and then see what the polls say.

      Commenter
      Len
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:35PM
    • Polls do matter

      Just not the ones taken before the blood coagulates

      Commenter
      Louis Cypher
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:39PM
  • Perhaps the greatest irony of the day is seeing Kev being sworn in by Bill Shortens Mother in Law!

    Commenter
    The Sceptic
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:57AM
  • I am so happy I left Australia 12 months ago. If you guys vote Rudd back in you have rocks in your head. Good luck, I'll be watching from afar enjoying a zero tax rate and a cold beer. I'll visit from time to time but you won't see me back in Australia for all the money in the world.

    Commenter
    Fanta Pants
    Location
    Hong Kong
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:54AM
    • That's great news! I am sure you are a political exile in Hong Kong and you fled the country due to persecution from the government or something. Don't worry, Kevin Rudd still loves you!

      Commenter
      DerpyDerp
      Location
      Derp
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:02PM
    • So if you're enjoying a zero tax rate it's no wonder you don't like Labor. The rest of us believe in a fair and equitable society where people pay a fair percentage of their income as tax so that we can have a decent standard of living. How's the standard of living where you are?

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:02PM
    • They have cold beer Fanta!

      Commenter
      Altered
      Location
      Esperance
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:04PM
    • @Tone, I'm enjoying my standard of living and can't complain about anything in those wonderful, free and democratic country. If you want to throw good money after bad with regards to your taxes and essentially get bugger all in return, more power to you. You're a better person then I'll ever be.

      @Derpy Derp, I think if I were to class myself as anything, it would be an economic exile. I'm not a big fan of ALP Politics or the management of the Economy.

      @Altered, the beer is very very cold. Enjoyed a few whilst watching the State of Origin last night at a local bar in Stanley. It was a night of mixed emotions. I was overjoyed watching the ALP commit itself to death by a thousand cuts but disappointed in the appalling effort by NSW. Bring on Origin III and bring on the election.

      Commenter
      Fanta Pants
      Location
      Hong Kong
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:21PM
    • Enjoy your zero tax rate and cold beer from afar. You've voted with your feet and wallet. How come you still feel the need to comment if you've left it all behind? Meanwhile I'll continue to pay my taxes and enjoy the social and material infrastructure my taxes support. In your new country, do you have the right to protest and voice dissent? You've foregone that for zero tax. I couldn't and wouldn't.

      Commenter
      Vorpal
      Location
      Coffs Harbour
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:21PM
    • @Vorpal. Unfortunately I still am required to pay some tax in Australia and as such I'm entitled to take an interest in the comings and goings of what happens.

      Hong Kong is actually a pretty free country, they have regular protests and the One Country Two Systems plan is working out just fine. It's a democratic country with a very robust debate and is quite a welcome change to seeing things being done for societies betterment as opposed to things being done for pure politics.

      A country with 7.5 million people squeezed into the size of Sydney metro works amazingly well. They also have an unusual thing up here called 'Surplus'

      Commenter
      Fanta Pants
      Location
      Hong Kong
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:31PM
    • Like you in HK I am one of the million Australians who live and work overseas, in many cases because they cant get jobs in Australia. (or perhaps we are occupational or 457 visa refugees or taxation persecution) . We also do that because under Kev's tax changes when PM last time on those who work overseas that we should pay full rate taxes even though we are not there, so we moved out families overseas, depriving Australia of massive amounts of funds and spending and now we are in low tax regimes by default but who is complaining. But why should those who give up much, work very long hours for our good tax free salaries without the nanny state protections then pay huge amounts of tax to support the Socialist state.

      Commenter
      The Sceptic
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:32PM
    • But you won't be enjoying breathing clean air or having any personal space. And hey, if I were reduced to living in a highly polluted human storage facility I wouldn't be willing to pay a cent either.
      In fact, I'd say zero cents is disproportionately expensive. If I were to sy quality of life I'd be expecting THEM to pay ME. You're getting ripped off mate.
      PS - don't pretend you're 'enjoying' that cold beer. We've had their beers mate - woeful. Just woeful.

      Commenter
      Weary
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:45PM
    • I was wondering when you'd show up BP

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:50PM
    • When people like you leave it makes the rest of us (on either side of politics) so much happier!
      Please, please do NOT come back!
      But seeing as you have neglected to inform us if you actually have the nads to take out residency in HK we can probably expect you back in Aus. whinging like a child about the "naughty commies" at the first set back in your lovely totalitarian city state can't we mate!

      Commenter
      markd195
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:03PM
    • You should know not to say anything negative about Australia to Australians, ever. It's always going to be the best place in the world in the minds of most Aussies who have never lived anywhere else anyway.

      Commenter
      Lock
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:47PM
    • Is that what they do Capn? Crikey!

      Commenter
      Altered
      Location
      Esperance
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:54AM
  • re; The Age Poll on Labor winning the next election.

    Hmm now 62% of voters say Labor can win the next election. Up one percentage point.

    180,281 votes registered so far.

    Knock Knock
    Come In
    Mr Abbott
    It's the Liberal Grim Reaper
    I'm here to tap you on the shoulder.

    Commenter
    Bondy
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:53AM
    • Is it a Liberal Grim Reaper or just Turnbull in disguise?

      Commenter
      Mathew
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:04PM
    • I do think I was able to vote 4 times though. It wouldn't show me the results unless I voted again and I didn't get a message saying I had previously voted?

      Commenter
      Altered
      Location
      Esperance
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:07PM
    • What happened to the bus the Libs used to run their leaders down with?

      Commenter
      nolongerconfused
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:11PM
    • It's not will win - but can win. Someone can win tattslotto, but the chances of winning is very low.

      Commenter
      Growler
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:11PM
    • Lib HQ have been fearful of a Rudd comeback for the past year or so. Now, their worst nightmare has arrived. Last week Abbott was about to walk into the PM ship with no risk. Now, it's all changed. Let the contest begin!

      Commenter
      Alex Mac
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:17PM
  • Thank you, Julia Gillard, for your years of service as our PM, you negotiated better than anyone else could have done in a hung Parliament to pass policies that benefited all Australians. Your fair-mindedness and dignity were a credit to you.
    Kevin Rudd, you have a lot to live up to.

    Commenter
    Di_R
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:53AM
  • Wonder if Krudd will get the same loyalty from Gillards people that he showed Gillard over the last 3 years.

    I also think it is ironic that Rudd accused Abbott of being relentlessly negative over the past 3 years considering all the undermining of Gillard he has done. Krudd is just one slick media spin doctor.

    Commenter
    kp
    Location
    brisbane
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:52AM
  • How Australia has changed, we deserve everything we vote for. I'm old & don't give a toss who wins because its just a game of popularity with no substance. Howard - Rudd - Gillard - Rudd - Howard?? Nice to have a statesman again who you could be proud of.

    Commenter
    Toughenup
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:52AM
  • Sorry, didn't Rudd promise he wouldn't challenge for leadership when he failed 7 months ago?

    Honesty is a very important quailty to have in my opinion - I don't believe a word he says, so I certainly don't want him to be my prime minister!

    Commenter
    garanT
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:51AM
    • Abbott promised to move a motion of no confidence in the government. Now he's backtracking on that. Sounds like he lied. Honesty is an important attribute, and he told us you couldn't believe anything he said unless it was written down. And even then he still can't be believed.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:56AM
    • Name one politician who has never been dishonest. Just one will do.

      Commenter
      Vorpal
      Location
      Coffs Harbour
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:01PM
    • So you're saying it's okay to lie and that we should vote him or Abbott in because that's just what politicans do?

      No thanks!

      Commenter
      garanT
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:11PM
    • No. Never said anything about it being OK to be dishonest. Just asked you to name one politician who has never been dishonest. You said you wouldn't want KR as PM because he was 'dishonest' in a comment he made. So which 'honest' politician could be PM?

      Commenter
      Vorpal
      Location
      Coffs Harbour
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:32PM
  • Chris Bowen was an unsuccessful Migration Minister, not only in the asylum seeker space but across all migration issues. The Immigration Department is in chaos as a result of his mismanagement His prospects as Treasurer are therefore poor. In stock-market parlance, any boost in the polls for Labor will be a temporary "dead cat bounce"

    Commenter
    Seabass
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:49AM
    • davros - i'm sure history will dissect the reasons for Gillard's downfall for years to come. But as Opposition Leader, Abbott will get an honourable mention for his role.

      There's now the prospect of a hatrick, although the election definitely just got tougher.

      Yesterday was a good outcome for competitive democracy and parliamentary standards.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:49AM
    • davros - i'm sure history will dissect the reasons for Gillard's downfall for years to come. But as Opposition Leader, Abbott will get an honourable mention for his role.

      There's now the prospect of a hatrick, although the election definitely just got tougher.

      Yesterday was a good outcome for competitive democracy and parliamentary standards.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:49AM
  • Concerned - it`s a very sad and concerning situation to be in if our only choice for leadership over the past 6 years to present has been Gillard, Rudd or Abbott.
    Is there no cream in our political ranks that can rise to the top?

    Commenter
    Grazzer
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:46AM
  • Funny that when the Coalition changed leader it was about policy. With labor policy is the last thing they want to talk about. The ship is still sailing in the same direction, nothing has changed except one incompetent ships master has been replaced by another incompetent. Labor will always put power over policy and have demonstrated their lack of substance and principle many times over the last 6 years.

    Commenter
    Denny
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:44AM
    • Wow, you're pointing the policy finger at Labor? Liberals are a policy vacuum. They have been avoiding policy for so long that they thought they could just cruise to victory. Now they might have to produce a policy, or will they be too cowardice to do that?

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:58AM
    • Tone - the point is that labor change leader to remain popular not because they believe the leader has taken them in the wrong direction. It a lack of principle that seems to be a common thread across the whole labor movement.

      All coalition policy will be revealed when the election is actually called. Why would they do otherwise?

      Commenter
      Denny
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:15PM
    • Sorry Denny I don't buy it. The election is 3 months away max. And the Liberals are yet to release their policies so that they can be scrutinised.

      And if they released their IPA sponsored policies, people would recognise them for the extremists they are and they won't get in.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:59PM
  • Hey Steve H. why don't you tell us how you really feel.
    In MY view (perhaps not yours - you're entitled to yours) Rudd has done nothing wrong. he didn't undermine anything or anyone. He's no more a liar than the rest of them.
    I never understood the JG hate. But I'm happy The Rudd is back. If it keeps Abbott out it's all good. Abbott is a hillbilly who must be stopped

    Commenter
    Ruddwolf
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:43AM
    • Rudd changed the pacific solution and now over 1000 people have died and 45000 have entered Australia by boat. On this alone he deserves to be bannished from the public stage forever.

      Commenter
      Denny
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:05PM
    • Ruddwolf, I'm not surprised or dismayed by the whole event, it was always on the cards. However Rudd deserves to be held to account for his endless machinations and lies, just as he does for his thought bubble style of policy making.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:11PM
    • SteveH,
      How about just holding Abbott accountable for doing his duty and discussing LNP policies, in detail?
      Still waiting for the 'wit'.

      Commenter
      Enough
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:21PM
  • The Age polling now says 61% think Labor will win the next election. 173,690 votes counted. That is statistically very significant and will unlikely swing the other way in any significant way.

    Based on the probability distribution of votes thus far, this is a firm indication of the upcoming election outcome.

    The Grim Reaper of the Liberal Party could be knocking at poor old Tony's office door any minute now.

    Commenter
    Bondy
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:42AM
    • If you think that The Age poll is reflective of national voting habits then you're delusional at best...

      Commenter
      Deluded
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:59AM
    • Its a voluntary poll. Those are pretty much never significant.

      Commenter
      Simon
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:07PM
  • Ms Gillard we are so proud of you, You left with the dignity and poise of a stalwart leader, You did not cry because you know you are more than capable of going out and doing bigger , better and more satisfying work with the community. It would be a shame- if your reforms for the disabled and the education system does not have your name tagged to them. We hope Kevin who we depend upon as our saviour would not face another defeat. We pay for our leaders and so would like to know definite policies -facts and figures on how some of the big issues would be addressed,- Jobs, control on prices of utilities and commodities, taxes, control on alcohol. and drug abuse, safety, cheap and good transport system. How would you support businesses. Job security devoid of exploitation. Who ever the saviour is we pray that you do your job for the good of your people,

    Commenter
    Deidre/Mary
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:41AM
  • Now that Kevin ‘Jack Sparrow’ Rudd, Anthony ‘Elbow’ Albanese and Chris ‘Crossbow’ Bowen have retaken the Helm the mutineers should be made to
    walk the plank.

    Commenter
    MRK1
    Location
    Center of the world
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:41AM
  • Way back when Gillard polls started to slump, I predicted that Rudd would eventually return and that Malcolm will challenge him in the election. Abbott has no chance against Rudd unless Liberals reveal some excellent policies. or Malcolm taps Abbott on the shoulder. Pressure back on the coalition as Abbott/Malcolm are running out of time. Lets see how united they are when polls show Abbotts immediate slump. Malcolm is sitting happily and quietly whilst sharpening his dagger.

    Commenter
    ContentButConcerned
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:41AM
    • The real hidden Political dragon (compliment) that the liberals have is in Julie Bishop. If she was made Leader then the liberals would be unstoppable but they are to stupid to see that, constantly vasilating on male politicians that are not up to her standard and as a man I recognize this difference

      Commenter
      Demonizer
      Location
      frankston, vic
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:54AM
    • I saw the Bishop name, first ,and thought that you were talking about Browyn....

      Yikes !

      Commenter
      Old Ireland
      Location
      around
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:18PM
    • Very true, particularly if Big Tony opens his mouth. He won't be able to stop himself though. The Libs really need to swap to Mal quick smart.

      Commenter
      James
      Location
      Bray Park
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:52PM
  • We now have a choice between Mike Tyson and Neville Chamberlain. Leave me out.

    Commenter
    Eric Olthwaite
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:40AM
  • Reading these comments, there are a lot of very scared liberals all of a sudden. Wait until the next poll for the fear to really set in.

    Commenter
    Pi
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:40AM
    • Personally I am not inf avour of rewarding the very person who has been a najor casue of the govts poor polling but given Gillard has taken the high rd and resigned there are some issues for the Libs - polls reveal 1) Rudd is popular and 2) The majority of the govts policies are popular add this to the media not having the leadership specualtion to write about but instead policies and Rudd's great comeback and things could get tight. At elast tight enough to give the greens and ALP control of the senate, and that will amek things very difficault for the libs.

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:52AM
  • Im voting Independent anyway, but I reckon this is a real game changer now. This is Abbotts worst nightmare, no matter how Lib stooges and bloggers on here try to spin it. Rudd will rejuvenate both govt and the Labor party, and pull them together for the election. The Libs have been far too cocky and overconfident, thought they could slide into govt, with no scrutiny, but now its game on bigtime. Julia was Abbotts best asset, shes gone, and Rudd is hugely popular with the average punter and the people. Abbott is not popular with the masses, his popularity is nearly as low as Gillards was, so he may have to actually start doing some real work for a change, start putting out his hidden policies and agenda, his honeymoon is now well over, done and dusted. I reckon the election is no longer a whitewash, it will be close now, as Rudd starts exposing Abbott for the political lightweight he really is. On gay marriage alone, he can expose Abbotts ultra conservatism. Its GAME ON, folks, no matter what the Liberal party hacks on here try to pretend. ! LOL

    Commenter
    Piesnchess
    Location
    Mt Evelyn
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:38AM
    • It's a fad that'll soon fade away. The anger against Labor isn't / wasn't just because of Gillard.

      Commenter
      Fanta Pants
      Location
      Hong Kong
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:55AM
    • Yes, it was because the election was "stolen" from the Liberals and Abbott's been throwing a tantrum ever since.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:15PM
    • The worst nightmare would have been a credible third candidate. Rudd is a pretty known quantity. And he doesn't seem to be taking the opportunity to change course. So, no, it could have been a lot worse.

      Commenter
      AdamC
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:01PM
    • Tone, I don't think the tantrum has been isolated to just Abbott. I think a large number of Australians felt disenfranchised by the whole schemozzle and felt under represented, either way Rudd is going to struggle to get into office this time around the ask is simply to great. The Coalition are already four seats ahead before the polls even open (Oakshott, Windsor, Slipper and Thompson)

      Commenter
      Fanta Pants
      Location
      Hong Kong
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:20PM
  • So what has happened then?

    The ALP got rid of a leader who was populist and popular but no good at politics/policy

    They put in someone who was neither populist or popular but apparently good at politics and ok at policy. That did not turn out so good.

    The deposed leader spends 3 years drilling holes in the sinking ship then all of a sudden goes "hang on, I have a big bucket of Selley's seal all, I can fix it".

    So now we are apparently back to a contest between someone who is extremely populist but not at all popular and does not have any real policies, to someone who is popular and populist and who's only policy seems to be being popular and beating the other guy.

    Winners? Nobody (maybe the media?)

    Losers? The Australian Public.

    Commenter
    Sambo
    Location
    all over the place
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:37AM
    • The other side of the coin is that we have an opposition leader so desperate for power that he stated "I'll give you anything except my arse for your support" to Windsor i 2010....Note that he has never disputed that comment either.....Abbott elected...Losers...the Australian people.

      Commenter
      JIM
      Location
      Bayside
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:54AM
    • you have no idea

      Commenter
      Demonizer
      Location
      Frankston, vic
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:04PM
  • Like an episode of Monty Python........bring out your Dudd......bring out your KRudd

    Commenter
    melbourne
    Location
    melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:36AM
  • Maybe we should focus on party policies at not party personalities ?

    Commenter
    Kaboda
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:34AM
    • That's easier said than done. Remember we have Toxic Teflon Tony who is too much of a coward to announce any of his real policies to the public.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:44AM
    • Greybrush...not feeling so good today?

      Abbott is a very strong political operator.....and seems to have endless energy.....and he will be good Prime Minister

      Commenter
      paul
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:33AM
    • Greybrush...not feeling so good today?

      Abbott is a very strong political operator.....and seems to have endless energy.....and he will be good Prime Minister

      Commenter
      paul
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:33AM
    • No the people have brought down them by way of the polls and in this case by a trick with a phantom petition. But if Shorten was instrumental in putting Julia in and now Rudd back in then it must be credited to Bill Shorten and not Abbott, if it were the Titanic they would have been snatching deck chairs off each other or throwing women and kids out of lifeboats to make sure they had a seat

      Commenter
      The Sceptic
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:33AM
    • No the people have brought down them by way of the polls and in this case by a trick with a phantom petition. But if Shorten was instrumental in putting Julia in and now Rudd back in then it must be credited to Bill Shorten and not Abbott, if it were the Titanic they would have been snatching deck chairs off each other or throwing women and kids out of lifeboats to make sure they had a seat

      Commenter
      The Sceptic
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:33AM
  • Abbott wont "pass the motion" and test the parliament. He has been "passing motions" for the past 3 years in parliament.
    Here's your chance Tony.....or are you such a wus????

    Commenter
    AL
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:32AM
    • Do you have the ability to read, listen and / or comprehend? Tony Abbott made statement last night that he wouldn't table a motion of no-confidence. Are you that anti Abbott that you become illiterate ?

      Commenter
      Fanta Pants
      Location
      Hong Kong
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:00PM
    • Well derr said Fancy-Pants.
      Have you asked why TA wont table that motion?? Worried he wont get the numbers? He has been talking about that motion for 3 years. All talk it seems.
      It's also best to not speak (or write) and let others think you lack the comprehension that you accuse others of, lest speak and prove them right.
      BTW, i don't hate people i don't know personally. Dislike their public persona yes. But hatred? No.

      Commenter
      AL
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:26PM
  • My god do the blithering fools here really believe that plastic bags in Telstra pits save copper wires from corrosion? Hello, this cheap and nasty methodology is typical of Australian infrastructure incompetence.

    Put wiring in pit underground and what happens when it rains? Hello? Oh why don't we do what they have done in the UK for the last 70 years? Install steel terminal cabinets above and to the side of pits and connect the wires to the terminals inside the cabinets?

    Whooo it works?

    Commenter
    Pen of hrba
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:32AM
  • Thank you Ms Gillard for all your great work. Thank you especially for putting price on carbon, this was your greatest achievement and future generations will thank you. I was very proud to call you my Prime Minister. All the best for your future.

    Commenter
    noack
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:31AM
    • Putting a price on pollution was a great idea. I'm also happy that they did it. I could just imagine Tony Abbott's strategy - give the companies grants to fix up their pollution. Ten years later, they would still be polluting and will have spent all of our money. No thanks Tony.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:43AM
  • Seems like there are 3 main factions, Rudds, Gillards and Shortens. All with their own agenda's wheeling and dealing behind the scenes with Shorten holding the internal balance of power. Those who point the finger at Rudd for destabilizing the party need a wake up call, all three factions are equally to blame as they work for their own interests. Shorten quick to jump ship when best suits him. Glad Gillards faction took a hit, but they should all be working together not against each other. Even so they still manage to release policies, Abbott where are yours?

    Commenter
    ContentButConcerned
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:30AM
    • They have been releasing policies steadily. Stop being so intellectually lazy and look at them.

      Commenter
      Nulla
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:46AM
    • Nulla,
      The LNP has policies - No carbon tax, No mining Tax, No Gonski, There I have listed 3 policies.
      This was actually stated by Gerard Hednerson of Sydney Institute (the right wing think tank) as Abbpots POlicy positions on insiders on TV a couple of months back. In fact when Abbot recieves advice from Henderson he is oigng to even give up his "direct action", becuase as per him there is no global warming. Just as I am sure he agrees that the world was formed 6000 years ago.

      Commenter
      F&F Man
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:38PM
  • Isn't ironic rushing 457 legislation that will limit people wanting to come to Australia, to work and pay taxes, people that cannot take welfare, education or medical entitlements, cannot bring family over, and are willing leave the country when they are no longer required. Yet we have another set of "migrants" that are almost the complete opposite, with little or no effort to pass legislation on them. me thinks this is an opportunity for Mr Rudd to distinguish himself from his predecessor. (or he could just revoke the laws he changed in 2007)

    Commenter
    morph
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:30AM
  • Labor is already in the box seat for election victory. Liberals will be forced to react.

    Tony Abbott is surely worried about his leadership hold. The Libs could self destruct over the next few weeks.

    Writing is on the wall and on the poll on the page.

    Commenter
    JB
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:29AM
  • Makes no difference and I'm sure the polls and the book makers will show this. Yeah there may be a slight bounce, but the damage has already been done. and there's no real chance to change the perception out there. Coalition in power at least the next decade.

    Commenter
    Nick
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:28AM
    • Yes, let's ask Tom Waterhouse for his incisive views on Federal politics.

      Commenter
      Cap'n Morgan
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:41AM
    • Wrong Nick! Its 2 months to the election mate and the public HATE HATE HATE Abbott - now they have an alternative. You can bleat all you like - enjoy!!!!

      Commenter
      Mark
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:51AM
  • Treasurer Chris Bowen vs Shadow Joe Hockey. The pendulum just swung Labor's way. This election is going to be a lot closer than most people think. If Abbott's smart he'll send Joe on holidays for a couple of months.

    Commenter
    Bill
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:28AM
  • Hopefully female journalists can now be objective in their commentary of Federal politics.....

    Commenter
    paul
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:28AM
    • Riiiiiight because all those wimmins had so much trouble with putting the thinky things into the sentences making. *rolls eyes*

      Try this for an objective thought. With regard to some of the treatment dished out to Fmr PM Gillard it may not have been 'because she is a woman' but it was almost certainty partly 'because she isn't a man'.

      To suggest sexism played no role is plainly nonsensical as it would be tantamount to claiming sexism does not exist. The degree it played is up to historians to debate.

      Commenter
      wonk_arama
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:43PM
  • Rudd should just advise Gov Gen of election on 3 Aug while he is there.
    Get rid of this joke of a government been run by clowns.

    Commenter
    Damian
    Location
    Toorak
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:27AM
    • Another supporter of the Nolalition bleeting like a little child because they are not getting their own way!

      Commenter
      markd195
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:55PM
  • I have a full heart this morning.

    So happy that Rudd's back. He has the very rare gift of being to really speak to the electorate.

    I truly believe he will be able to defeat Abbott if the ALP works together to support him.

    I also believe, despite the mud that has been flung at him, that he's a person of ideals and conviction. That's a rare thing in public life and something that's completely absent from the Coalition front bench.

    Rudd and Albo: please make sure that Abbott takes his medicine at the election and is booted out of public life for good.

    Commenter
    innerwestchick
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:24AM
    • his ideals and conviction were to destabilise his knifers.
      Sad he need a major knifer to turncoat and back him.
      That is past pragmatism. he must know he is there for his 15 seat charisma, only
      Billy two knives and Kevvy 15 seats.
      Bit like two dogs....

      Commenter
      sk
      Location
      ACt
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:58AM
    • Tell him he's dreaming.
      I'm sick of hearing about how politicians only enter public life to serve the community, make a difference, blah, blah... What a joke.
      Having worked in the political arena, I can tell you 90 per cent of them are in it first and foremost for the power trip - and the other 10 per cent are lying.
      Rudd is driven only by his own massive ego. He's spent three years undermining the Government - and for what, the good of the country?
      After a short, sharp lift in the polls, this bloke will deliver Labor the hammering it deserves.

      Commenter
      MSMB
      Location
      Berry
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:45PM
  • Poor old Hacka, SteveH and Tim from Altona have collectively wasted years of their lives on Gillard and now they have to start all over again. Policy should now be the debate, something Abbott can no longer avoid.LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

    Commenter
    Reset the game
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:24AM
    • Yep instead of the Hunger Games we have the Labor Games. A revolving door of leaders at state and federal level that results in blood on the floor and a host of resignations. The modus operandi of the ALP seems to be just keep rotating leaders until we find one that isn't incompetent.

      Commenter
      Nulla
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:38AM
    • Absolutely!! lets now hear some talk of policy not politics that's what all Australians want.

      Commenter
      WRE
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:39AM
    • Whats funny during question time is Labor avoiding questions about the carbon tax and the nations debt. I think Labor seems more interested in their own survival then 'policy'

      Commenter
      Kaboda
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:42AM
    • No, they haven't wasted their time - I believe they've probably enjoyed the ride. All the chaos and invented issues probably enlivened otherwise predictable days. On the other hand, all you ALP supporters have wasted the last three years. And for what? So you can get more Kevvy-isms like "fair shake of the sauce bottle", "cooking with gas", "gotta zip", and the inevitable talking for talking's sake? So you can have doorstop interviews outside his church every Sunday morning, and photo-ops anywhere and everywhere? You're all chipper now, but we'll see after the election. Kevvy will be exposed again like he was in 2010 - as an all-talker but non-achiever.

      Commenter
      Tim [unfortunately not from Altona]
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:42AM
    • "The modus operandi of the ALP seems to be just keep rotating leaders until we find one that isn't incompetent."

      Close, but we already know Rudd is incompetent. I think it's more accurate to say that the ALP rotates leaders until they find one that is the least incompetent.

      Commenter
      adrian
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:51AM
    • Tim [unfortunately not from Altona]...Are you Timmy's mini me? I didn't realize bloggers had groupies.Watching Abbott in HR already shows he's had to switch to feral mode. The screaming has already started with Morrison. Desperate times ahead indeed. He's reeled off the word union 10 times in 90 seconds. He's become so hyperbolic his voice has cracked.

      Commenter
      Reset the game
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:11PM
    • I'm not a groupie or a "Mini Me". It just so happens that my name is Tim and I live on the other side of Melbourne - hence the differentiation. Altona is a very nice part of Melbourne, down on the bayside, and I wouldn't mind living there one day. I've never met "Tim of Altona" but he seems to have brains and wit, and is most probably a good bloke. At least he and I are not blind ALP stooges. At least he and I are prepared to call the situation as it is. And I reckon Tim and I will be on the winning side after the election...

      Commenter
      Tim [unfortunately not from Altona]
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:06PM
    • Well hearing "union" makes a nice change from hearing "misogynist", "relentless negativity" and "Meeester Abbott".

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:06PM
  • I'm mystified as to why none of the journalists or any of the commentators are analysing what seems to have been the real underlying issue of the past 6+ years, i.e. control of the labor party by the unions. It seems to me that all of the other more visible stuff (leadership, gender, policy, etc. issues) are really just symptoms of the underlying struggle for control of labor.
    In about 2007 we started getting reports about the underlying problem for labor's popularity was the level of control of the unions. Thus Kevin Rudd (non-union aligned) was appointed as leader, with the consequent desired effects. However, when as prime minister he started to move towards reformation of the party to democratise it, he was shortly dispatched and replaced by the strongly union-aligned Julia Gillard which in turn lead to a steady decline in support again.
    Now we are back to the appointment of Kevin again to try and ressuccitate Labor's fortunes, but the real question is - has anything actually changed in the level of control of Labor by the unions or not? This is what I would dearly love to see some analysis about!

    Commenter
    AvZ
    Location
    Sunny Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:24AM
    • Unions don't 'control' Labor, though they do excerpt influence. Keep in mind that conservative think tanks also excerpt influence over the LNP. The influence of the unions is always over played by the media. Various Labor MPs aligned to the SDA union are Rudd supporters, and MPs connected to the AWU have been split in support between Rudd and Gillard. Yes Gillard was more liked in the union movement, by my point is that these unions do not tell MPs who to support.

      Commenter
      seamus
      Location
      sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:46AM
    • Technically correct perhaps, but in practice all we have seen over the past years has been that the level of influence the unions exert (no p) over the party is tantamount to control. Just try to get preselection without union backing! The very knifing of KR in the first place was simply unions ensuring that Kev did not weaken their hold on the party.

      Commenter
      AvZ
      Location
      Sunny Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:08PM
  • I know, Westies are willing to give Rudd another go since he was unfairly removed.
    Sympathy votes. Abbott should be very worry.

    Commenter
    Old Mary
    Location
    Westie
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:24AM
  • If Abbott moves a motion of no confidence and loses, should Turnbull tap him on the shoulder?
    Or should Turnbull use the same knife Abbott used on him and return the favour?

    Commenter
    Mathew
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:23AM
    • Is that why Abbott hasn't moved his motion?

      Commenter
      nolongerconfused
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:46AM
    • Probably why he hasn't moved one at all despite his bantering

      Commenter
      Mathew
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:02PM
  • What's we do without Conroy telling our telcos to put red underpants on their heads?

    Commenter
    Justin
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:23AM
  • Australians deserve better than Abbott's toxic tirade, that's for sure.

    Commenter
    Tone
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:23AM
    • Oh really like a bunch of unionists with only THEIR own self interests as their concerns.

      Commenter
      Andrew
      Location
      Essendon
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:37AM
    • I'd much rather hear policies from Labor's 17% of the population than the Liberal's 1% of the population thanks. The 17% has a higher likelihood to be more closely aligned with my interests and the interests of the general population.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:08PM
  • Excellent day for Australian politics.

    The polls clearly demonstrate that fact.

    From today's The Age poll, 60% of voters say Labor can win the next election. That's a massive indicator for a massive sample size of over 160,000 votes.

    This means Abbott is near electorally doomed and they will need to get Malcolm Turnbull in charge of the Libs.

    Oh what theater.
    Absolutely wonderful.

    ref :

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/labor-leadership-change-what-happens-now-20130627-2oyd3.html

    Commenter
    JB
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:22AM
    • 61% from 178055 voters now. Worried Tony?

      Commenter
      Altered
      Location
      Esperance
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:49AM
    • Tony Abbott with the help of talkback radio trolls and the Murdoch Media. Tony Abbott has released hardly any policy details so people are not supporting him for his visionary new ideas.

      Commenter
      Rick
      Location
      Dubbo
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:22AM
    • Tony Abbott with the help of talkback radio trolls and the Murdoch Media. Tony Abbott has released hardly any policy details so people are not supporting him for his visionary new ideas.

      Commenter
      Rick
      Location
      Dubbo
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:22AM
  • It's personality politics. Bring on Malcolm.

    Commenter
    AndreP
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:20AM
  • Julia, you had enormous potential but unfortunately I think you were given some bad advice.
    Kevin - welcome back I hope you have learnt from your mistakes - funnily enough you say Abbot cannot learn - does the same apply to you? I hope we get the time before the election to see if you have learnt from your past mistakes.
    What a shame someone with the potential of Julia is lost from parliament because you and Kevin could not get along.

    Commenter
    Adrian
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:20AM
  • On the plus side, Anthony Ackroyd's job prospects just got a helluva lot brighter!

    Commenter
    Cap'n Morgan
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:19AM
    • Pure comedy gold!!! Made me almost spill my coffee into the keyboard :)

      Commenter
      Art
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:49PM
  • Met Rudd and shook his hand at the Innaloo shopping centre on the 1st Nov 2007 and was amazed at the reception he received; there was a family of obviously English cloth cap socialists dressed up in their best with grandma ,dad and the kids all dressed in their best
    getting their picture taken with the new M essiah who they knew would slay the Howartd dragon
    I liked him then and could not understand why he was usurped;maybe he needed to eat some humble pie and his bum kicked which could make him a better bloke.

    Commenter
    EDWARDKELLY
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:18AM
  • Is there any guarantee that the ALP won't stab Kev again after he hands them an election victory?

    Commenter
    Relentless
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:18AM
    • He wont and they will. Remember that 45% of labor hate him so much they would prefer to than to serve under him.

      Commenter
      Denny
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:33AM
  • Two wrongs don't make a right. Kevin Rudd is just as bad, or maybe (probably) they are all the same.

    I'm curious to know how Kevin Rudd was sworn in as prime minister so quickly. Isn't there a condition to "form government"? If the Gillard government was a minority government, does a Rudd government automatically have the same support to form a minority government?

    The constitutional crisis seems to have been forgotten, or is the GG incompetent as well?!

    Commenter
    johf
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:18AM
    • It's an interesting position we find ourselves in. I think the GG has sworn in Rudd as Prime Minister on the advice of Julia Gillard and the assumption that he will then address Parliament where his support will be tested either through a no confidence motion or the absence of one.

      Commenter
      Nulla
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:31AM
    • No johf, Gillard and Rudd advised the GG that Rudd believed he could form a gummint. She said, OK, I will swear Rudd in as PM so long as he goes straight back to Parliament and Parliament can decide whether he is PM or not. It's PARLIAMENT that decides who the PM is, not Lizzie 2 or her protege in Yarralumla.
      Whitlam's big mistake was not calling a vote of confidence in Fraser on 11/11/75 and having PARLIAMENT chuck him straight back into Kerr's lab again.

      Commenter
      Norm
      Location
      Maroubra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:48AM
    • I don't think it is as much of a constitutional crisis as "realpolitik" as Kissinger called it. Yes the GG would ask the labor leader if he can form government and the answer was a resounding yes because the back room deals were already done. The cross bench weasels who told the country that their support was only to Gillard and not the labor party have now given support to Rudd whilst resigning at the same time. Katter who did not support Gillard has now supported labor to form government. So Abbot knows he hasn't got the numbers and will not bring a motion of no confidence that he will lose. Nice to see a genuine comment and not the barking dogs of both parties.

      Commenter
      robespierre
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:59AM
  • 'Senator Conroy resigned by tweet late last night.' Well he was the Communications Minister.

    Commenter
    Altered
    Location
    Esperance
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:18AM
    • And he won't be missed.

      Commenter
      Bondy
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:25PM
    • Quite right, can't have all these women taking over public life and having to go for a lie down and getting hysterical and bleeding all over the place!

      Commenter
      Cap'n Morgan
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:17AM
  • For all of you ALP supporters this change was nothing but self preservation typical unionists. They care nothing for this country or the people in it only their own self interests.

    Commenter
    Andrew
    Location
    Essendon
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:15AM
    • Yes, Abbott's Party represents the top 1% of the population, the mega-rich. That's obviously far more representative than the 17% union membership.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:28AM
  • Any one for Prime minster but not ABBOTT
    Please.

    Commenter
    Chou Chou
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:15AM
    • Scared of a bit comp governing or do you think Abbott might make you work for your dole?

      Commenter
      Denny
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:37AM
    • A.B.A. Anyone But Abbot.

      Commenter
      AndreP
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:08PM
  • What a great day it was yesterday!

    a) The conservative traitors resigned
    b) Gillard was punted
    c) Swan was punted
    d) The Maroons won game two

    It doesn't get much better than that!!

    Commenter
    paul
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:13AM
  • "Mr Shorten says his decision was "incredibly difficult"'.

    No, Bill it wasn't. Self preservation is the ultimate goal of a coward.

    Commenter
    Pen of hrba
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:13AM
    • I thought that not stating any policies was the ultimate sign of a coward. Cowardice is the Abbott way.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:25AM
  • Forget Origin games, politics must be the toughest game of all.

    Polls turned against Rudd, Gillard punched him in the face - took his job.

    Rudd undermined his own party at every opportunity. Abbott mastered the primary job of Opposition - to oppose - and made fear and lies his stock in trade ("Whyalla will be wiped off the map", "the economy is overloaded with massive debt", "Carbon Tax will be a wrecking ball through the economy", "we can stop the boats"). Facts became irrelevant in almost all of our public discourse. Great nation-changing policy (NDIS, NBN, Gonski, Murray Darling solution) didn't seem to matter. Media establishment and the shock-jocks didn't like a woman pulling the strings. Murdoch had spoken and his Editors fell into line. Gillard's mistakes were costly (deals with the Greens, Peter Slipper, media reform, promising a surplus, mining tax).

    Politics turned personal and nasty ("send those illegals back to where they came from", "ditch the witch", "put her in a chaff bag and take her our to sea").

    Polls turned against Gillard, Rudd punched her in the face - took her job.

    Discussion of the actual reasons for all this is too complex for a few sentences.

    I feel very sorry for Gillard - she deserved better. She's earned great credit and will be treated well by history. However, she got what she gave Rudd. Everyone who works in politics knows that they live and die by the same sword.

    More importantly, why would people of genuine capability want to put themselves through this and go into politics. There are other ways to make a contribution to your country.

    Politics only if you're willing to punch someone in the face, and cop the same treatment back.

    Commenter
    SteveWalz
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:12AM
  • How can we ever be expected to believe any promise/policy/statement from any politician again? "No Carbon Tax under a government I lead", "Under no circumstances will I challenge again" and I am sure there are some from the coalition side to. Absolute statements are for the brave and the fools!

    Commenter
    notwavingbutdrowning
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:09AM
    • Yep, you're right. Only yesterday Abbott said "I will move a motion of no confidence in the government." Today he's saying he won't. He's a coward and a liar.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:26AM
    • Watch out for more lies lies lies.....wait for Tony's new and improved ETS (great policy Germany is a powerhouse with an ETS) and a great NBN. Without an NBN for the future, it's like saying Australia can do without a mobile phone network in 2013.....ridiculous and bring on more lies lies lies from either side....as long as we get what we need.

      Commenter
      JT
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:29AM
  • I seem to be one of the few people out there who would've voted for Gillard but not for Rudd. A sad day for the Labor Party. A good day for a bitter and immature Rudd.

    Commenter
    Tom
    Location
    Bathurst
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:09AM
  • So Kevin's ego has been elected to lead the Labor Party again. What will happen to the whole bunch of them when they realise that Krudd is not the Messiah and are beaten soundly at the next election?

    Commenter
    Les Butcher
    Location
    Balwyn
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:09AM
  • Quentin doesn't look impressed, not impressed at all. I wonder why?

    Commenter
    Pen of hrba
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:07AM
  • Good on you Peter Garrett for having a try at shaping policy for the country's benefit via politics. An honourable and genuine attempt but I still think you will (and did) achieve more through music....get back to it to make a difference.

    Commenter
    JT
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:06AM
  • Wondering what tricks the opposition will be upto today....can't wait for question time :)

    Commenter
    Sam
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:06AM
  • No doubt Kevin 07 has quickly employed an IT geek and put a good firewall around his office computer network. Youtube will have to suffice with footage of a former PM knitting in a man shed somewhere.

    Commenter
    enough is enough
    Location
    Labor party/Greens La La Land
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:06AM
  • What a great day. Well played Kev.
    I cannot think of anything other than Jeff Buckley Lyrics.

    "Hallelujah
    Well Your faith was strong but you needed proof
    You saw her bathing on the roof
    Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
    she tied you to her kitchen chair
    And she broke your throne and she cut your hair
    And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah
    Hallelujah...."

    Commenter
    Cwitty
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:04AM
    • They are Leonard Cohen lyrics. Jeff Buckley didn't write the song.

      Commenter
      stevek
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:25AM
  • 10:32 a.m. post - the characters in that photo all look awfully awkward...

    Commenter
    Tim [unfortunately not from Altona]
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:03AM
    • p.s. doesn't Rupert get even a partial credit ?

      Commenter
      davros
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:03AM
    • p.s. doesn't Rupert get even a partial credit ?

      Commenter
      davros
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:03AM
    • Hacka, Is that an admission ? Abbott & co have been saying it was all ALP machinations and nothing to do with them. Now you're claiming scalps on his behalf ? Which is it ?

      Commenter
      davros
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:02AM
    • Hacka, Is that an admission ? Abbott & co have been saying it was all ALP machinations and nothing to do with them. Now you're claiming scalps on his behalf ? Which is it ?

      Commenter
      davros
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:02AM
    • Yep - the Murdoch press conspiracy. Why then did Truthful Julia go on Sky News to call last nights ballot? doesn't she like her ABC? the True Believers keep shooting themselves in the foot.

      Commenter
      enough is enough
      Location
      Labor party/Greens La La Land
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:02AM
    • Yep - the Murdoch press conspiracy. Why then did Truthful Julia go on Sky News to call last nights ballot? doesn't she like her ABC? the True Believers keep shooting themselves in the foot.

      Commenter
      enough is enough
      Location
      Labor party/Greens La La Land
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:02AM
    • Yes, he is. The only person to bring down 2 PMs without every actually getting himself into The Lodge.

      The very definition of ineptitude in my view.

      Commenter
      Kludge
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:01AM
    • Yes, he is. The only person to bring down 2 PMs without every actually getting himself into The Lodge.

      The very definition of ineptitude in my view.

      Commenter
      Kludge
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:01AM
  • There was an alternative candidate.. but he wanted to wait till the election was over... didn't you Shorten. Let Rudd make inroads on Abbott and the team, then shaft him again (that will be 3 PM,s in one party in 4 years!) and take the position yourself.

    Commenter
    Mithrandir
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 11:01AM
    • Hacka, not while Abbott and Pyne are there. The only way for civility to return is for the Australian public to reject vileness and utter destructiveness in Opposition behaviour as a legitimate means of getting government in Australia.

      Commenter
      Whyalla Wipeout
      Location
      half of Liberal is a lie
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:01AM
    • Hacka, not while Abbott and Pyne are there. The only way for civility to return is for the Australian public to reject vileness and utter destructiveness in Opposition behaviour as a legitimate means of getting government in Australia.

      Commenter
      Whyalla Wipeout
      Location
      half of Liberal is a lie
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:01AM
    • Are you the only person to post only questions in a comments section?

      Commenter
      tasch2
      Location
      Mornington Peninsula
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:00AM
    • Are you the only person to post only questions in a comments section?

      Commenter
      tasch2
      Location
      Mornington Peninsula
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:00AM
  • It is going well for Rudd so far. The high performers, Burke and Wong, have stayed around, while the disasters, Conroy and Swan, have exiled themselves. Well played. I reckon the whole country is happy to see the back of both those gentlemen!

    Commenter
    AdamC
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:59AM
  • Something I have noticed in the photos going to the G-G. Why are we as Australian taxpayers supporting local car makers but the PM's security drives a german 4WD? Surely, a Ford Territory or Toyota/Holden equivalents are equally suitable. (Of course the Toyota/Holden versions would still be foreign made.)

    Commenter
    Watcher
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:59AM
    • Noticed that myself. A quick google found that 10 BMW X5s were purchased in 2012. They are special order as are armoured and bullet proof.
      Pretty sure Ford doesn't offer bullet proofing as an option on the Territory :)
      The reason C1 (PM's car) is still an old model Caprice is because it was custom made with bullet proofing, and cost so much they haven't replaced it.

      Commenter
      smeets82
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:21AM
    • It would be more reasonable and pertinent to ask, why has Labor given billions to our car industry while there has been a reduction in tariffs on imported cars from 50 to 3%? Do one or the other but to do both is akin to industrial and fiscal genocide.

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:24AM
    • also all of them are run by polluting fossil fuels instead of hybrids..
      meaning more pollution

      Commenter
      Arrow
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:25AM
  • Julia was hopeless, Swan was worse, Rudd is an egomanic, go Abbott!

    Commenter
    Michael
    Location
    Scoresby
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:58AM
    • Yes, Abbott, because he's not self-centered, he's not egoistic and he's trustworthy (just ask Turnbull)

      Commenter
      Mathew
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:10AM
    • I agree. Go Abbott!!!

      Commenter
      Andrew
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:56AM
  • Never liked gillard but at least after getting shafted by her so called mates albo and that other poisonous crew she has resigned and left parliament krudd has been waiting and plotting and scheming to get back at her if he was a man he would have left and done the honorable thing like gillard.

    Commenter
    plumber perth
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:58AM
  • Sigh... and here I was hoping that the major political parties, especially, Labor with its supposedly friendlier policies towards workers would push through at least some 457 changes to make a difference for our long suffering IT and services workforce who have faced years of offshoring and replacement by those employers abusing the 457 visa scheme. Surely its not xenophobic or racist to ensure proper rules and regulations govern the 457 visa scheme to ensure its being used for what it was originally intended for? I was onboard with Labor for the 457 changes and now with the dumping of the new 457 changes by Rudd, he has removed the one reason why I stuck with them. Labor is now no longer any different from the Coalition and with the wacky greens as the only alternative, I lament the sad state of Australian Politics. Its become a choice between Dumber and Dumber.

    Commenter
    James
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:58AM
    • Perhaps you should educate yourself as to the actual requirements to support a 457 visa. Or perhaps you could detail the actual documented rorts rather than hearsay. Oh by the way evidently unemployment is at its lowest level ever accorfing to labour so who exactly is being put out of work

      Commenter
      El-Diablo
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:48AM
  • Despite the failings of the individuals of both parties, and yes, Abbott has failings, as does Rudd, the election should be about the Party with the best policies for taking Australia forward.
    Labor has policies out there for all to see, and has been implementing reforms to move Australia forward.
    The Liberals only policy is a backwards NBN. Unless you count fear and scare as a policy.

    Unfortunately, it will be a election campaign that the Liberals will only mention 'carbon tax', 'boats and border', 'mining tax' and 'debt' during, not a single policy.

    Commenter
    Mathew
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:55AM
    • Mathew, you do realize removing the carbon tax, stopping the boats and fixing the budget will actually involve policies?

      Commenter
      Hamish
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:05AM
    • Correct, as we don't vote for the PM but party reps. WOuld be nice to have more alternatives.

      Commenter
      Jitterry
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:05AM
    • Agreed. All those master strategists pushing for a return of Turnbull forget the nature of the team that has lined up behind Abbott. We should be paying more attention to all the players not just the leadership soapies. Unfortunately that requires a longer attention span than the media seems to believe we possess.

      Commenter
      davros
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:16AM
    • Hamish, a slogan isn't a policy.
      It's just a smokescreen, hoping people won't see through it to see there's no fire behind it

      Commenter
      Mathew
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:29AM
  • Abbott needs to call it like it is - the no confidence motion won't be called because most of the crossbenchers won't support it and it won't get up. The cross benchers have had far too much authority on this 43rd parliament and those indies left standing after the election, my guess Katter and Wilke, will have bugger all influence over the 44th parliament.

    Commenter
    Tim of Altona
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:55AM
    • Tim those cross benchers have given us something that we have not had for many a year - actual reform and policies that have been and will be good for Australian Society over a hand out here and there to middle class types for vote buying types who don't care about anyone but themselves.

      Now if I read your post correctly, you are basically saying you didn't get enough out of the current government and maybe they took a bit away from you ... would that be right?

      If it is then you really need to look at the bigger picture and see how we can be a better people living in a better place if we just realise the stupidity of constant tax cuts and hand outs to those of us who don't really need it.

      Cross Bench politicians have given us the NBN, NDIS, School reforms and so on and so forth. They are great things and without them none of that would have happened.

      Commenter
      Matt_H
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:04AM
    • Hey Tim why you hate democracy?

      Commenter
      wonk_arama
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:19AM
  • The whole nation is rejoycing.

    Thank you Kevin 'Harry Potter' Rudd. Thank you for your fighting spirit. Thank you for existing.

    I was even willing to vote for Abbott as an alternative to Gillard. Now I'll be voting for you PM Rudd.

    All the best.
    Rob.

    Commenter
    Rob
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:53AM
  • Of course the upside from last night's coup. There will be fewer articles clogging up this, and other sites, from the rantings of the feminist Gillard cheer squad

    Commenter
    Can't Trust Labor
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:53AM
    • Quite right, can't have all these women taking over public life and having to go for a lie down and getting hysterical and bleeding all over the place!

      Commenter
      Cap'n Morgan
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:17AM
    • Is that what they do Capn? Crikey!

      Commenter
      Altered
      Location
      Esperance
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:54AM
  • I awake today with a feeling of peace. I am surprised at this. Before today I had no particular favourite between Rudd and Gillard but I realise now that what my soul has been telling me for three years is this: the assassination of this man, our leader, was NOT the right thing to do; it was done in a dirty, soulless way...and I do NOT believe it was done for the reasons we were given. Big mining influence and other issues were at play. And in the end, the soul knows this, it won't be fooled by what the head tries to convince itself is true...and so I believe the torn soul of this country was last night healed.

    Commenter
    Cheryl
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:52AM
    • I feel relief also Cheryl. Gillard was seriously disturbing with her entrenched inability to listen, answer a straight question and to learn and as a result stop shooting herself in the foot time and time again. It may be that we have simply swapped one form of disfunction for another in the move to Rudd, but as the saying goes 'A change is as good as a holiday'. I'm very glad the Gillard era is finally at an end. Life seems instantly simpler and more promising.

      Commenter
      Altered
      Location
      Esperance
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:13AM
    • WW - whilst the election will be closer with Rudd at the helm, at least some civility can now return to Capital Hill. :-)

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:50AM
    • WW - whilst the election will be closer with Rudd at the helm, at least some civility can now return to Capital Hill. :-)

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:50AM
  • Rudd the super star is back with same old Labour policies? And this Labour camp think they can win this election by having a superstar leader? We are mugs.

    Commenter
    BudWijay
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:49AM
  • Once the excitement passes one of Kevin's biggest problems is going to be explaining to the electorate why a proven serial liar should be trusted with anything more dangerous than a can opener.

    Kevin has made statement after statement, month after month, explicitly ruling out the possibility of this event.

    Kevin Rudd is bald faced liar, its as simple as that.

    Commenter
    SteveH.
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:48AM
    • Steve H, I have nothing to say contrary to your statement, although I will add that saying a politician is a liar is akin to saying on a clear day the sky is blue.

      Commenter
      Indeed
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:02AM
    • But Steve were any of those statements written down?

      But seriously can we get over this childish 'he/she lied!' rubbish? People change their minds and positions on things all. the. time. Life is change.

      Commenter
      wonk_arama
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:06AM
    • Well yes, perhaps Kevin should head up to Kangaroo Point to make a statement clarifying his position on a few things.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:15AM
    • Well, duh, he's a politician, it's in the job description. Welcome to the real world, enjoy your stay.

      Commenter
      Reality Bites
      Location
      Somewhere over there
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:18AM
    • So is Abbott, self confessed. Get it in writing he said. Apparently even that isn't good enough. Show me a politician that isn't a liar. Show me one who thinks the public utterances of any of their fellow politicians is to be taken as gospel.

      The speculation has already started about a Turnbull comeback behind the scenes. Do you think they're going to fess up to that ?

      Will be interesting to see if we get daily front page hysteria on the latest liberal leadership portent of every passing breeze.

      Commenter
      davros
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:28AM
    • wonk arama, fortunately nearly all them were written down, take this one for instance from our new PM and serial liar:

      "Last time I said in February of 2012 that I would not be challenging the Prime Minister," he said.

      "The Prime Minister won that caucus ballot by two to one. It was a convincing and strong win, I've accepted the result."

      That lie came out of his lips only last month in June, after his no show at the Harmony Day coup

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:38AM
    • Ahh thanks for clarifying Steve that politicians are the only humans that must never, ever change their minds. Seriously?

      I see that this is your talking point for the day but I'm sure you'll be even handed in your approbation on this point. <insert laughter>

      Commenter
      wonk_arama
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:55PM
    • They can change their minds as much as they like, I'm merely repeating what Kevin Rudd has said. If you wish to absolve him that is your affair.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:40PM
    • No Steve you're not just repeating what he said, you're also passing judgement.

      Additionally your 'bald faced liar' comment would suggest you're not really as comfortable with them changing their minds as you claim.

      In Steve's world can Pollies change their minds or are all instances of such action just just evidence that the previous statement they made was a bald faced lie. Which is it?

      Commenter
      wonk_arama
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:00PM
    • Everyone has changed their mind or said something that wasn't entirely true.

      But I can't recall any other politician (and this is not an exacting standard) who has repeated the same denial and offered the same claims of support to his leader and his party. As frequently as Kevin Rudd has over such a long and extended period.

      These statements are all on the public record.

      It was clear that on Harmony Day this year that he was close to launching a challenge, only to squib it at the last moment leaving Crean in the lurch.

      And yet he till kept coughing up the same old tosh.

      He constant 'I'm not challenging' statements were all lies.

      You can call them what you like.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:36PM
    • Steve you can't recall an instance of an ambitious politician when asked to express 'complete support' in their leader, does so (often repeatedly) before going on to later challenge said leader? Really? Those magic words 'complete support' don't ring a bell? They're usually followed by people commentating 'oh it's definitely on'.

      In reality I think you'd find it hard to nominate a person who assumed the leadership of their party via a challenge who *hadn't* at first mouthed words of loyalty.

      As noted elsewhere the heat and focus in the Rudd v Gillard battle has been on the extreme end if the scale of these things but again ambitious people + opportunity = ....

      Rudd is not in any way unique in this regard, despite your attempts to paint him as such, but whatever, you have your talking point so whack away.

      Commenter
      wonk_arama
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:24PM
    • I'll paint him as I see fit, and you can see them as you see fit.

      Its quite fair really.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:22PM
    • Well Steve you have my complete support. Up the ladder you go.

      Commenter
      wonk_arama
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:17PM
    • Abbott? You mean the combined forces of the mining industry and Murdoch media? Or do you believe there is alot of power in saying 'No' repeatedly? In that case, Abbott is a very powerful man.

      Commenter
      GuybrushThreepwood
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:47AM
  • An an ex pat American I thought I had seen it all but let me tell you this is the biggest farce I have ever seen. Who in their right mind could vote for Rudd again? What a shame and this won't change the result at the election. Disgraceful and embarrassing politics.

    Commenter
    Timothy
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:45AM
    • As an expat American (home of the Tea Party lunatic fringe) you're a fine one to talk about disgraceful and embarrasing politics.

      Commenter
      Dan
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:35AM
    • Last time I checked The Tea Party wasn't running the country there Dan...

      Commenter
      Timothy
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:49AM
  • Rudd is more worried about his hair loss than what he is about running the country. The man is all ego and nothing else. Whilst I dislike Abbott, I cannot stand Rudd. I feel for the voters who were sucked in last time with their $1000 prezzie from Rudd. Its not gunna happen again, as there is no money in the coffers. lol..People,keep working as Rudd is not going to save you from the recession thats a 'commin.

    Commenter
    Meat & 3 Veg
    Location
    Under a Rock
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:45AM
  • What a gracious and intelligent person as Prime Minister we have lost. You have a lot to live up to Mr Rudd. Time to show the Australian people what a train wreck the Liberals would make of this country.

    Commenter
    Fred2
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:45AM
    • It's Labor that's a train wreck.

      Commenter
      Marie
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:06AM
  • Great so Rudd will again allow the Indians and Asians pay less tax than the local Aussie worker at the benefit if big businesses like Westpac at the expense of the local tax payers that are not on 457 visas! What a Rort and why dies he allow this? So that the short term economic figures improve at the expense of the long term economic impacts. Rudd will disguised the long term impact by dimply increasing the population in Australia to double in the next 20 Years. What an idiot!

    Don't forget Rudd 747 the most expensive minister for travel expenses!

    Bring in Abbott!

    Commenter
    457 visa
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:44AM
  • We have 2 choices at this federal election. Either you vote for the Liberals “slave & master” rule which is for the minority or for the ALP policies which are for the vast majority. It is a simple as that!

    Commenter
    George Naumovski
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:43AM
    • George what you mean is " market rules .V. Union rules"

      Commenter
      fausto coppi
      Location
      giro
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:34AM
  • What goes around comes around Julia.
    Tony Abbott and company won't be happy today either. Tony's once seemingly easy journey to The Lodge has vanished meaning he's going to have to stop taking the lazy way out through mindless negativity and start formulating some meaningful, accurately costed policies. The oppostion generally needs to cease using mere opportunism for short term gain and consider the overall good of the nation. By the way Malcolm Turnbull, how are you feeling this morning? Pretty chipper no doubt.
    Your time of true greatness might be nearer than you think!
    Rudd versus Turnbull? Brilliant. We might see two intelligent people engaged in serious discussions for a change.

    Commenter
    Charlie Lima
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:43AM
    • Absolutely; time to get out of the gutter and have intelligent discourse...

      Commenter
      Tomaso
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:02AM
    • Exactly, why is no one questioning the Liberal leadership? Abbott is an appalling leader. Bring back Malcolm Turnbull for a genuine election battle.

      Commenter
      Toni
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:38AM
  • Oh no, this can only end in tears (again).

    Commenter
    Justin
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:41AM
  • Tony?, It's Rupert. Maate! Listen that kind of backfired didn't it ? Yeh I know you wanted her on life support until the election but who thought that Labor could be so easily spooked into pulling the plug. Not like they have a history of it ? Oh ? Oops, oh well. Now about that. Just off the blower with Gina and some of the IPA folks and the feeling was that ... well maybe ... that we should give Malcolm another run around the paddock. Come on maate, don't be like that, it's not like you didn't just fluke your way into the job. It was your own vote remember ? Listen it's captains call here. Wouldn't want us to start asking questions about policy on the front page every morning would you ? Or heavens forfend actually produce one of them. You remember the good yuk we all had about that one you showed us down at the club. Yeah, sorry mate took a copy. Look it wont be today, no rush, how does next week sound ?. Tony ? Tones ?

    Commenter
    Rupert
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:41AM
    • Priceless and GOLD, yeh Lord Rupert of media bias, would be in a real pickle today, does he get back Mal and dump Tones, oh dear, woe is me, woe is me. Ha H a HA.

      Commenter
      Piesnchess
      Location
      Mt Evelyn
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:47PM
  • Yaaa Kevin should have been in for the last 3 years. Labour should be never have got rid our their Priminister! How dare they destroy the once proud Labor Party that did have dignity. Mr Rudd has my VOTE!!! AGAIN!!! I hope he can get rid of all the rats in the labour party!

    Commenter
    Jane
    Location
    Queensland
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:41AM
  • Could not vote for Rudd I am sorry to say.
    I have voted for Labor for 40 years.
    Tony Abbott..your kidding.

    An informal vote for me as well....

    Commenter
    Willagee
    Location
    Perth
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:41AM
    • Which means you give Abbott more chance of gaining power ... nice!

      Commenter
      Matt_H
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:55AM
    • That will solve the problem!

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:09AM
    • I made the mistake of voting for the LNP in Qld last year.... What a silly mistake.
      Don't let Abbot stroll in

      Commenter
      Wise After The Event
      Location
      Bisbane.
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:13AM
  • Gillard or Rudd. No matter who is the PM now. At least in this country we can change Prime Ministers while watching a footie match and nobody comes out on the streets with guns and bombs.How utterly civilised we have become!!!

    Commenter
    Supergran
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:40AM
    • Very true.

      Commenter
      thereisnoyouinLabor
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:58AM
    • Well said supergran.

      Commenter
      davros
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:35AM
  • Go Green and stick it to the blue ties. Show that Australia has a voice that supports equality.
    Rudd is a sore loser who is not a team player.

    Commenter
    SB
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:40AM
  • Bowen always seemed like a decent Minister even though he wasn't able to stop the boats.

    Let's hope he has more luck in stopping the debt.

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:35AM
    • Not only didn't he stop them...he started them!

      Commenter
      thereisnoyouinLabor
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:59AM
    • Chris Evans started them - remember it was the "greatest day of his political life".

      Abbott will start reminding soon us that Rudd was the PM. Damn, those policy failures might start coming right back.

      When will the Gillard team start leaking ?

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:04AM
  • The Australian people must finally take their heads out of the sand and actually think before we vote for the current group of politicians. I am referring to the Labour and Liberal Parties.

    We deserve better than the current crop.

    We need someone who can run the country like a business. Look at the history of the last ruling Liberal Party.

    We need a Govt that is working as a team not a group of individuals just interested in looking after themselves.

    Please people actually think and look at both parties before we vote.

    Commenter
    Mark
    Location
    Singapore
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:35AM
    • "run the country like a business"

      No lets not, how about we run it like a country instead ?

      Look at the rate of business failures.

      Business demanded a hands off approach from government, insisted that the market knows best and when the market passed judgement in the form of the GFC business demanded that government bail them out.

      Governance has only recently achieved (some might say regained) prominence in business education circles. Many current business 'leaders' can't even spell it let alone understand it.

      It's a popular but very narrow (or willfully ignorant) refrain. Society is (or at the very least is potentially) a much richer and nuanced concept than is business. The latter is unarguably important but it's not the centre of the universe.

      "Please people actually think and look at both parties before we vote."

      Completely agreed

      Commenter
      davros
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:49AM
  • The Coalition strategy of playing the person and not the ball seems to have backfired.

    Due to the fact that there are hardly any Coalition policies ready and on the table the election should take place as late as possible.

    Tony Abbott and Kevin Rudd need to explain very clearly to the average voter just how they will be better off by voting for one of the major parties. If they don't then we will have another hung Parliament.

    Commenter
    Rod
    Location
    the Coast
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:34AM
  • My 12 year old son asked me how will people trust Kevin Rudd after he has broken his word? I had no answer.

    Commenter
    Seanol
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:34AM
    • Just tell him how you went when Howard broke his, or any other politician for that matter.

      Commenter
      Matt_H
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:52AM
    • tell him people can change their minds if the circumstances change - to dig in on a former position and refuse to reconsider it if things change is just stubborn and foolish - ask Julia

      Commenter
      helenB
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:53AM
    • Same answer as why Tony Abbott believes in a policy to address science he called 'crap'

      Commenter
      pugwash
      Location
      earth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:02AM
    • Ask him how he felt after he was told about the tooth fairy etc

      Commenter
      tasch2
      Location
      Mornington Peninsula
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:02AM
    • Your lucky! thats easy to explain. My son was 12 when John Howard told Australia lies to invade Iraq and told more lies about boat people throwing their kids overboard. At least he was too young to see that.

      Commenter
      Eugene
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:03AM
  • I think most people know that the vitriol about Rudd by some of his former colleagues was about trying to make sure they damaged him so badly that he could not survive politically and to try to justify their underhanded and disloyal actions. Similar things could have been said about Howard, Hawke, Keating etc.I wouldn't be surprised if the Australian people react badly to a non policy campaign by the LNP that just replays that childish venom. I suspect it won't last long and will only highlight that they have nothing positive or constructive to offer.

    Commenter
    helenB
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:34AM
  • Abbott may have succeeded in bringing down Julia Gillard with his relentless campaign of mindless slogans (axe the tax, stop the boats, budget emergency etc), outright lies (climate change is crap, whether carbon dioxide is quite the environmental villain that some people make it out to be is not yet proven, the Olympic Dam project was placed on hold because of the Government's new taxes etc) and endless disruption of the Parliament.

    Yet he has only won a battle in the long running struggle between the forces of capital that he serves, in particular the fossil fuel producers determined to do anything to prevent any restrictions being placed on their polluting products, and the wider interests of all Australians, already affected by climate change that is being driven by ever growing carbon dioxide emissions.

    Now he faces the challenge of a resurgent Rudd, determined, as is Obama, to tackle carbon dioxide emissions by taxes and regulation, necessary interventions by Governments that understand the existential threat posed by global warming.

    Abbott may continue to deny that the present global warming is entirely being driven by human activity yet, like all extremists that base their political strategy on appealing to the ignorant and stupid, he will fail because even those individuals will eventually realise that their own interests are best served by listening to the experts rather than the servants of vested interests like Tony Abbott.

    Commenter
    SteveB
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:34AM
  • Game on for a ***POLICY BASED*** based election - and about time too!

    Commenter
    Loneliness of the Long Distance Air Traveller
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:33AM
    • Policy from who? The Liberals?
      A Policy of scare and fear is all they have

      Commenter
      Mathew
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:57AM
    • No - it is now a populist based election - full on.

      Policies were never a big thing for Rudd and we know this of Abbott. Gillard did bring policies to the table and actually got them through ... she has done more than Keating/Howard and Rudd combined in that area.

      So now we vote on who is mre likebale for what they will give us instead of how they will be true leaders and make the hard decisions etc that both of these cannot and will not make.

      Yay to the media and the ignorant masses for serving this up to us on a plastic BBQ platter ...

      Commenter
      Matt_H
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:59AM
  • Thank you Julia

    Commenter
    ThankYouJulia
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:33AM
  • With apologies to Alabama 3, some modified words for part of the "The Sopranos" intro music:

    Woke up this mornin',
    Set myself a goal.
    Mama always said I'd be the chosen one.
    She said, 'You're one in a million
    You got to lead to shine,
    That you were robbed in a bad style
    With the Newspoll in their minds."

    Woke up this mornin'
    And-a all those polls had gone.
    Shorten never told me
    About all he's done.
    But I'm looking good, people,
    believe I'm a-feelin' fine.
    I was robbed in a bad style,
    With some re-venge in my mind.
    So, sing it now:

    Woke up this morning,
    Got the Newspoll on my mind.
    Woke up this morning,
    Got re-venge in my mind.

    Commenter
    Tim [unfortunately not from Altona]
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:32AM
  • Wasn't this leadership 'speculation' supposed to be a media fabrication? There are lots of eggs on faces among certain regular commenters here this morning!

    Commenter
    AdamC
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:31AM
  • Can I add to this no flaming or anything like that

    We have problems facing Australia atm we are still deciding governments what are we doing Australia. We need to move forward not sit down look at ways to create news about stuff that has no meaning stop this rubbish get it over and done with who cares just move forward that's it enough is enough. Create new jobs look at ways to build Australia again use Australian resource to sell to other countries not sell to them our land so we don't buy from them that means our wealth of our country is gone keep our money in Australia that makes our economy grow with money in Australia not overseas set up ways for small business to grow not make them bankrupt do you think business like to hear bankrupt or consumers no they don't what dose it do creates less confidence means less wealth in Australia if I would choose more strict bills to keep Australian wealth in Australia by giving them incentives not taxing them while other countries do the opposite to Australia which gets Australia to them and also shopping centres are like wild horse tenants are screaming for help they just increase the rents instead of them helping the tenants so they are able to bring more business into the shopping because they are not governed in way for them to be watched over to help business means more confidence more jobs more money spending more stronger economy instead being in disaster simple words lets get a move on

    Commenter
    Hello
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:30AM
    • Is that all one sentence?

      Commenter
      JT
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:45AM
    • Did Rudd save us from the GFC?

      Unlike European countries and the US, we had no housing bubble inflated by sub-prime dealings.

      Our banking sector was structured by superior forms of regulation and authority, our four major banks still maintain AAA rating hence, there was no danger of them defaulting.

      Our strong fiscal position of surplus federally and strong banking sector allowed Labor to run a deficit, this is the main difference that separates Australia’s economy from those abroad.

      2009 trade statistics reveal exports surged from 2.4% of GDP to 5.4% due to our private mining sector.

      In 2007-08 the construction industry's share of GDP was 7%.

      Pink fluff and halls for choir practice were of such insignificance, less than a fraction of the above 7%, their only significance: expansion of Labor spin.

      The NBN should have connected 12.2 million premises by 2021. By mid 2012, 38,914 premises were connected – 278,086 less than promised? By July 2012, $2.832 billion will have spent on the NBN, more than $900 million has vanished in three years of accumulated losses. The NBN lost $520 million last year alone? It will cost up to $3 billion more than Labor claim.

      Labor is ripping $2.3 billion from the university sector, while imposing $900 million in additional student charges while calling it Gonski, despite Gonski?

      Medicare levy: $3.3 billion annually = $23.1 billion over 7 years, funding $14.7 billion, NDIS cost $154 billion over 7 years?

      Enter Rudd with a Bible?

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:59AM
    • @ Hendra

      You should go into public life. You are more talented than all of the lazy Coalition when it come to debate. If you could just tell me how much better off the average wage earner will be if the Party of the very rich ,the Coalition, gets elected then I'll gladly vote for them.

      Commenter
      Rod
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:33AM
  • A Government is not comprised of one person. As far as I see nothing has changed, just the mouth piece.

    Furthermore the people who stabbed Rudd in the back are now jockeying to be near him. It takes a special type of people to do that.

    What a snake pit.

    Commenter
    Nicolas
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:27AM
    • That's the nature of politics - the art of the possible. If you don't like the reality of democracy in action, you can always go and live somewhere where power struggles are resolved (or not) in civil war and bloodshed.

      Commenter
      James
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:08AM
  • Is Abbott the only Opposition leader in history to have brought down two sitting Prime Ministers ?

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:27AM
    • Abbott? You mean the combined forces of the mining industry and Murdoch media? Or do you believe there is alot of power in saying 'No' repeatedly? In that case, Abbott is a very powerful man.

      Commenter
      GuybrushThreepwood
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:47AM
  • On the one hand, Kevin Rudd did enormous damage to the leader of his party and his party by his constant undermining.

    On the other hand, Abbott and his cronies did enormous damage to the Australian political discourse and to our society through their vicious and opportunistic opposition of everything decent.

    In a choice between two unpleasant options, Kevin wins hands down.

    And as a bonus I look forward to seeing the smile wiped from the face of Hacka and his mates in these columns come the day after the election. Hey - we may even finish up with another hung parliament.

    Commenter
    Whyalla Wipeout
    Location
    Half of Liberal is a lie
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:27AM
  • Is this the best the ALP can do? Are they so bereft of talent that the only person they can think of as an alternate leader is the same bloke they turfed out last time? It certainly shows the lack of depth of the ALP and goes some way to explain why they have been so hopeless.

    Somebody said the Liberals would be fearful of a Rudd return. I would say that can't believe their good luck. All they need do is remind the electorate just how bad he was and all the reasons they sacked him. Show all the footage of what his colleagues had to say about him and ask is this really who you want as PM?

    Rudd is so hated by the rest of the ALP that any excuse will be enough to get rid of him once again at the first available opportunity after the next election.

    Interesting to see that the ALP has now forced two sitting PMs out of parliament. First Howard then Gillard.

    Commenter
    Sherlock
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:16AM
    • If all the Liberals can do is stump up Abbott...Rudd is good enough.

      Commenter
      Sam
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:47AM
  • "Meet the new boss, just like the old boss". (The Who). Don't get comfortable Kev.

    Commenter
    James
    Location
    Bray Park
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:15AM
    • ...Peter Townshend wrote some new lyrics for "Won't Get Fooled Again" esepcially for you James.
      It adds "...but still better than the alternate boss"

      Commenter
      stevek
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:28AM
  • I blame Julia for squandering the opportunity created by the first female PM - both by the way she got there and the way she dug in and wouldn't listen to anyone.She could have come to the job with clean hands and full support but just wouldn't wait.She did all women a great disservice and has reaped the fruits of her self interest. Karma. The best thing she did was to leave with some dignity - that's the best that can be said about her time in the top job.

    Commenter
    helenB
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:14AM
    • Nobody gets that far in politics with clean hands.

      Commenter
      Malik the magic sheep
      Location
      Perth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:38AM
  • A souffle may not rise twice, as Paul Keating told us, however, the undead can definitely rise more than once.

    Commenter
    eat me
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:12AM
  • I am sure Julia is relieved to be free of Rudd's vengeful behaviour, he has been like a termite to the party. What a egomaniac this man is.

    Commenter
    blueduck
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:12AM
    • Rumor has it Rudd has entered the CWA knitting competition - just after Julia submitted her application.

      Commenter
      Malik the magic sheep
      Location
      Perth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:35AM
  • It will be a sad day if Tony Abbott becomes Prime Minister. Rudd is back. The poeple of Australia voted for him. Fair game now! Until the next election.

    Commenter
    Vadermaul
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:12AM
  • Get over it you lot. What happened with Rudd and Gillard is what happens in big in private and public sector businesses every day. It's just an extension of behaviour that is an everyday occurrence out there in Voterland. Don't blame them because you're complicit in this.

    Commenter
    Gordie
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:12AM
    • Garbage. No public company would put up with the incompetence of these two clowns nor would they tolerate the disgraceful behaviour.

      Commenter
      Denny
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:41AM
  • Could it be a Rudd versus Turnbull election? Maybe in my dreams... but hey, here's hoping!

    Commenter
    GuybrushThreepwood
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:11AM
    • As a die-hard Labor voter, Turnbull is the worst case scenario for Labor.
      Turnbull would sweep to power, taking ,any Labor voters with him.
      If only we could have gotten him to our side when we had the chance

      Commenter
      Mathew
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:24AM
    • As a diehard Liberal supporter who has voted Liberal my entire life, I refuse to vote for Abbott, he is the most right wing & negative leader they have ever had, I will vote for Rudd unless they return Malcolm Turnbull to make it a real contest, and only then would I switch my vote back to Turnbull, at the moment I believe Rudd will beat Abbott. I no longer have loyalty in politics I want a strong leader and Abbott is not, I repeat NOT a leader.

      Commenter
      Sloppy PR
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:13AM
    • If a day's a long time in politics, anything's possible. Abbott has been so spectacularly robotic with his negativity and meaningless mantras, and his association with the fringe dwellers of his Party during this last Parliament, that maybe the rational, reasonable persons in conservative politics might just tap the moderate, intelligent Turnbull on the shoulder.

      Commenter
      mikke
      Location
      north shore
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:17AM
  • Go Rudd!

    Finally a PM that supports marriage-equality.

    No chance he'll beat Abbott, but at least he'll give it a shot.

    Commenter
    stefan
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:10AM
  • What happens now is obvious. We convince The Age to not endorse the Abbott and get Turnbull to replace him.

    Oh the power of social media.

    Then we will have a real election.

    Commenter
    JB
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:09AM
  • Get over it you lot. What happened with Rudd and Gillard is what happens in big in private and public sector businesses every day. It's just an extension of behaviour that is an everyday occurrence out there in Voterland. Don't blame them because you're complicit in this.

    Commenter
    Gordie
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:09AM
    • +1. Plenty of people within Labor liked Julia however she was facing doom at the hands of you the voters. She is replaced and suddenly the election is a fight again. Labor had no choice but to act how they did. Better than going down like Howard did when he overstayed his welcome with the voters.

      Commenter
      Harshdozer
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:25AM
    • @Gordie

      Dude this ain't a corporation, its a country. Corporations are autocracies - our system of Govt is a democracy. Big bl**dy difference

      Commenter
      Malik the magic sheep
      Location
      Perth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:37AM
  • I have to laugh at all these people blaming Rudd/labour for a deficit, even if Abbott wins we will still have see a deficit for years to come, nothing to do with who is in power, you cant expect a massive surplus year after year with the current glabal economy the way it is.

    Atleast with Rudd back in power there is hope for this country, just have to hope Abbott doesnt get in as it will be a national tragedy if he does, never seen such a numptie before, scary to think he could be PM.

    Commenter
    avaya
    Location
    vic
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:06AM
    • Actually, I blame Abbott by association with the Howard government for the deficit. While Labor ramped up temporary spending during the GFC (sound policy), it was Howard and Costello that have created the ongoing structural deficit that Labor has now inherited following the end of the mining boom. LNP economic policy is more about being in the right place at the right time than having any economic foundation.

      Commenter
      Ryan
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:27AM
    • It's called Economics and apparently it's not say in Politics.

      Commenter
      Harshdozer
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:28AM
  • "But who should we reward for shepherding our economy through the GFC and coming out the other side with a AAA rating, low unemployment and low interest rates?"

    Commenterbiggerthan
    LocationDate and timeJune 27, 2013, 9:46AM....

    Well it certainly wasn't the Government credit where credit is due....you should be thanking the Public Service

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/the-pulse-live/politics-live-june-27-2013-20130627-2oyex.html#ixzz2XN0oKGTr

    Commenter
    MikedOut
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:04AM
  • The faceless men kicked Kevin out and played around with Julia - all the while keeping Kevin on the side "just in case". Now the faceless men kicked Julia out. Who in their right mind would vote for a party run by faceless men?

    Commenter
    Birdie
    Location
    Mt Waverley
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 10:04AM
    • As opposed to the faceless men of the LNP, they don't exist?

      Commenter
      K
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:18AM
    • Three years of media bias, general sexism especially from older male voters and constant negative campaigning by Abbott calling her a liar didn't contribute to her downfall at all. It was a the faceless men at Labor that did it. Pfffft!

      Commenter
      Harshdozer
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:27AM
  • Don't you just love a woman not swearing in Abbott as PM?

    Commenter
    JT
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:58AM
    • dont worry mate you will see that happen in under 2 months time.

      Commenter
      Revolving chairs
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:12AM
    • maybe, maybe not...he he

      Commenter
      JT
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:15AM
    • Are you taking the same pleasure in seeing a man kicking Julia out.

      Commenter
      SteveH.
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:16AM
    • Women aren't going away anywhere just because Julia is not head honcho now....get used to it...we will be there somewhere spoiling the male need for dominance!

      Commenter
      JT
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:22AM
  • Seems to be a big pissing contest between Rudd and Abbott to see who has the most "blue ties".

    Commenter
    Pete the Pirate
    Location
    Ulladulla NSW
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:58AM
  • Has McTernan fled the country ?

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:58AM
    • Just sent his resume over to K Rudd's office - otherwise he'll be booted out on his 457 visa.

      Commenter
      Tim of Altona
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:14AM
    • Apparently his status has changed and he is now on Christmas Island.

      Commenter
      enough is enough
      Location
      Labor party/Greens La La Land
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:22AM
  • Bowen eh?

    Is he also 'the world's best treasurer'?

    Commenter
    Bob from Ballarat
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:57AM
    • No Bob, his waiting in the wings and his that dud called Joe Hockey, who can't read a balance sheet!

      Commenter
      Tedstar
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:24AM
    • Yeah agreed, no great confidence in Chris Bowen. Geez Joe Hockey or Chris Bowen as treasurers. One is a loose cannon and the other missed year 12 Economics. Either way the wallets in trouble :(

      Commenter
      Harshdozer
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:33AM
  • Two things came out of last nights press conference by Abbott.
    1. He stated the games in parliament should be over, yet when asked if continually moving suspension orders was a game, he didn't answer.
    2. Julie Bishop should not be seen, well just her arm and hair, but not heard.
    So he cant answer scrutiny, and doesn't like women to be heard (or seen). Do people really want him as PM?

    Commenter
    Mathew
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:57AM
  • Go Rudd! You've got my support. I would have put a blank voting card in the slot at the next election if he wasn't running. He's a much more respectable and intelligent PM than Gillard or Abbott. Second time around I think he's going to do a great job.

    Commenter
    Brook
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:56AM
    • Just wondering if all ALP voters have the memory of a goldfish. Going from the worst PM to the second worst PM.

      Commenter
      Hawker
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:16AM
    • Dream on Hawker, Rudd saved us from the GFC caused by the conservatives. Now you obviously want Abbott's unnecessary austerity to put us out of work and ruin us.

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:53AM
    • Tone...you have a wonderful imagination if that is what you believe. Just bring on an election and get rid of this rabble and let the coalition get the economy back on track. I want my kids to actually have a job.

      Commenter
      Hawker
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:43AM
    • Hawker, your kids could never have got a job under Howard. Under Howard, outsourcing was open slather and he never did anything about it. So what makes you think your kids will be able to get a job under Abbott?

      Commenter
      Tone
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:17PM
  • With friends like Anthony Albanese -- who needs enemies.

    Commenter
    Baz
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:55AM
  • The replacement of Gillard was necessary as Labor was heading for political oblivion. With a 29% primary vote and sliding rapidly there was clearly no hope. This which would have meant a certain Abbott-led government. There was no alternative candidate to Rudd and everybody knew that. For all the rusted-on, die-hard LNP supporters it, there must be uncertainty and fear of a Rudd return despite all the protestations to the contrary. It is a big relief that there will now be a contest instead of Abbott walking into the Lodge unopposed. Abbott now has to front up with policies rather than the usual slogans and threats and negative politics. I doubt Abbott has any polices of any merit. Go Rudd.

    Commenter
    GSM
    Location
    Chatswood. NSW
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:54AM
    • What are Rudd's policies? Other than not being Abbott?

      Commenter
      brian
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:07AM
    • Absolutely spot on. Abbott will now have to put up policies and debate them but as he doesn't have any other than "aspirational" slogans I suspect we will be bombarded with attack adds just like the one that came out straight away. Of course they only reinforce his lack of anything meaningful to say. Hopefully the electorate understand is and start making informed choices based on facts rather than emotions. If that happens Ion't care either way who wins.

      Commenter
      Lance
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:08AM
    • Has not fixed anything, has gone back to why it all started, Rudd in and party want him out. They returned him to save their seats. This is useless to voters whom rightly were why they reinstalled him after seeing polls.We now just have a smoother talker who sounds more professional. The ALP will give him the power until AFTER the election. congrats though on getting back what was stolen from you in the way it was.

      Commenter
      brian
      Location
      glenroy
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:09AM
    • There is no chance of a Labor win even with Rudd. But what this does prevent is Abbott having control of both houses which would not be healthy.

      Hopefully Rudd's return will level the polls long enough to encourage a return of Turnbull.

      Reluctantly we have to agree Abbott has done a great job as 'opposition' leader but as a Prime Minister... Really?

      Commenter
      Bryce
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:14AM
    • So you don't like abbott because you 'doubt he has policies of merit'. So hopefully you can elaborate on Rudds policies, you're clearly in the know being a big supporter of his.

      Commenter
      nck
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:27AM
    • No wonder your comment was "featured" by the SMH. Its as laughable as its own editorials.
      "Rusted on LNP voters"?...mate, if you seriously think 70% of people in the opinion polls or even 20% were only against labour because of Julia Gillard's presence as PM your living in cloud cookoo land .People vote for policies and parties. they dont vote for personalities.The Australian public are not as dumb as you think.

      Commenter
      Malcolm
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:32AM
    • Rudd's case positive, and for the Libs it keeps the bastards honest This a good thing and for the labour fractions..We the AUSTRALIAN people are NOT all in UNIONS or members just looking for good leadership of this great nation and now just maybe we have a Leader to to choose Australia has done very well through the GFC and that is a huge plus under Rudd .I'm glad we are not in Europe or USA or under Liberal leadership as they have been a poor opposition. Liberals should have strangled the government long ago but failed to do so because of lack of policy. My vote will be for K.Rudd and I'm in a very marginal seat of Corrangamite so that goes to Cheeseman

      Commenter
      Didge
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:54AM
    • Actually Malcolm, it's you mate who is in cuckoo land believing that..Labor have the policies people want...they're less interested in the popularity contest waged in the media and negative campaign of the Coalition. I think you'll see both Gillard AND Rudd vindicated.

      Commenter
      pugwasg
      Location
      earth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:58AM
    • That's about it in a nutshell.

      Commenter
      James
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:11AM
    • Fact is Abbott doesn't have to outline policies until an election is called and they remain in opposition and do the job of opposing as Labor will if returned to opposition and that's how opposition works but you knew that right? Obviously you do not understand how our system works, and guess what its not about Abbott yet is still all about Rudd and Gillard. and the idea Kev has changed is fanciful. At least one thing we know, Kevs come back after saying never rivals Julia's carbon Tax never, and the lies will continue, and Shortens spectacular act of betrayal, a sad day in Australian politics, just as Kev should have faced the ballot box and not a knife in the back so should have been Julia.

      Commenter
      The Sceptic
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:23AM
    • I love the attacks by Rudd last night, and by Labor supporters in general. They run a convincing smear campaign, and personally attack Tony Abbott, and then have the nerve to turn to the Australian public and say the Liberals cannot be elected due to their negative politics.

      Gillard falsely smeared Abbott over abortion, when the Liberal party has clearly stated they would not change current abortion law. This was an intentional fear campaign where she said women would be marginalised, and abortion become the play thing of male politicians.

      Rudd and Swan have somehow claimed European austerity would follow a Liberal government. Further lies, aiming to instill fear into average voters to save this failing government. The list goes on, including the debacle of Gillard's misogyny speech. The PM knew too well she could only get away with such slander within parliament. The Labor party has divided Australia, and is running a negative campaign from all angles. They then treat the Australian as fools, turning around to them and saying we'll protect you from those negative liberals. Nobody buys it Rudd, and the public will take their opportunity to vote this appalling government out.

      Commenter
      Aby
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:31AM
  • Now that Kevin Rudd has been sworn in as PM, all those who were saying "Julia Gillard is still Prime Minister," your 12 hours of vacuous relevance is up. Goodbye.

    Commenter
    Salvador Dalek
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:54AM
  • Rudd came back to finish what he started, more deficit and handouts.

    Commenter
    No more Labor
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:54AM
    • No he got back what was his, and was taken from him against wishes of electorate that voted him in.

      Commenter
      sedona
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:08AM
    • Absolutely, if anyone wants to pay more taxes to go into a black hole then vote labour and you will have your wish !

      Commenter
      Lets vote
      Location
      chiswick
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:20AM
  • I find this an appalling state of affairs! Only a few months away from an election – it goes to show that some people have big tickets on themselves. Julia can say that when they lose, she wasn’t holding the rudder (Ops, excuse the pun).

    Commenter
    Sarah
    Location
    Western Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:53AM
  • Welcome back Comrade, 300 billion deficit coming soon.

    Commenter
    Dr luv
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:52AM
    • Any good Labor supporter will tell you spending money you don't have is never a problem. So expect more grand spending promises from Rudd, while leaving it for some future government to figure out how to actually repay the growing debt. No doubt this will require us to sell more and more carbon to China where it can be emitted into the atmosphere ... without paying Labor's carbon tax. Gotta love the irony.

      Commenter
      Bill
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:20AM
    • Don't panic. There ismost likely going to be a fairer tax system to help bring it down.

      Commenter
      Rod
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:14AM
  • Rudd sabotaged Labor at the last election and has spent that last three years engaged in relentless white-anting and undermining of Julia Gillard. So obviously the answer is to reward him with the top job?

    As recently as three months ago, you made us false promises that you would not challenge Gillard, who was a quiet achiever and a more competent PM than you ever were. Now you're betraying her in the way you condemned when it happened to you. But I guess, two wrongs make a right? Or is it only a "knifing" when a woman does it?

    Congratulations, Rudd. I was about the most rusted-on Labor supporter you'll ever see, and now there is no chance I will be voting for your mob at the next election. What a shameful performance all around. I can only hope that some good Independent candidates present themselves.

    Words cannot express my disgust.

    Commenter
    Red Pony
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:52AM
    • Could not agree more Red Pony. What a quandary now. I could not vote for either Rudd or Abbott ever, ever, ever. Guess I'm back to voting informal.

      Commenter
      Qlder
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:57AM
    • Hear, hear. Couldn't have put it better myself.

      Commenter
      arh
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:08AM
    • That's alright, I don't think they particularly need your vote now.

      Go Kev!!

      Commenter
      sarajane
      Location
      melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:20AM
    • I am afraid we shall have to confine thoughts to karma or justice in the afterlife for Kevin the whiteant. Regardless of the best intentions, the writing was on the wall clearly for Labor at the next election. Sadly for all, Julia was not going to be a flier. So the best thing they thought they could do was give Kev a go again. Hopefully a three-year bum-smacking has taught him something. Good luck if you think of voting for Abbot's team of used car salesmen. You will not be doing your country a service.

      Commenter
      Germ
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:22AM
    • @red pony.
      Well done, I am relieved to see some integrity from someone in the Labor party, calling Rudd for what he is. Your's is the first comment I've seen that is actually more about whats important to your values than just pure power. And if the Labor party isn't about values then what is it about.

      Commenter
      nck
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:24AM
    • Red Pony, a rusted-on LNP supporter posing as a disgruntled Labor supporter. I bet if Gillard was still PM this person would still rearrange his/her words but reflect the same message. You can fool only some of us. Good luck with your "switch" because Abbott needs all the support in this new twist.

      Commenter
      GSM
      Location
      Chatswood. NSW
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:30AM
    • To be truly rusted on you swallow your medicine when you have to and consider the big picture, which is that unless your preferred party is in power then your preferred way of life has no chance of coming about.

      Commenter
      Altered
      Location
      Esperance
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:50AM
  • If only one of these ALP MPs had had the guts and integrity to stand up and refuse to support the Carbon Tax on the basis that it fundamentally breached the promise to the electorate that it would NOT be introduced. Then perhaps one of them could be viewed as a leader that could be trusted. As it stands NOT ONE Labor MP or Senator put their promise to the electorate before their political aspirations… the same reason they knifed Rudd in the first place… and now Gillard.
    And the ALP are still stating that their primary focus is to stop Tony Abbott becoming PM.
    Not governing… just politics.
    Sickening.

    Commenter
    Puzzled
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:51AM
    • You need to check your facts. What the Murdoch media and Mr Abbott always omit in their drivel about the so called 'carbon tax' is that J.G. kept her word and did not introduce a carbon tax but did as she said she would and that is put a price on carbon which is the part of the quote conveniently left out by the scaremongerers and MP's without a viable alternative plan.

      Commenter
      Rob68
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:39AM
  • Right SMH & the rest of the MSM. You've had your fun but now it's time to get serious. We face a 'key turning point' election, we have a largely disengaged electorate. Now it's time to honour the people that buy your newspapers, pay for your broadcasts, pay tax and cast votes.

    Get together all your big brains including your economists, social policy pundits and even your lifestyle gurus and knuckle down and analyse the policies that each of these two egghead parties put forth. I for one would like some decent decision making tools when I place my highly valued votes come election day.

    Demand that these two Game Masters put forth in an intelligent and considered way their plans for the future of this great young and eager country of ours.

    Some of us want to know what their plans are for the industrial and economic future, how are they going to support emerging industries, how are they going to support the transition in the mining industry. For others its about health, education, social policy or just plain jobs.

    Get to work, NOW and start giving 'the people' what they deserve. Considered analysis of what will really effect our future and what both sides are really putting on the table.

    We are not pigeons coming out to feed on crumbs, most of us actually care and consider our votes with intelligence and consideration. We don't work our butts off day in and day out, raise our children in good health and to respect others just to be treated like a bunch of dullards.

    Bring it - we're desperate for real, considered and intelligent analysis of the issues, the policies and who can really deliver.

    Please, it's time and it's time for the Politicians and MS to deliver.

    Commenter
    Mava
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:50AM
    • Mava, you are absolutely right. Justification on using Abbott to remove Julia and bring back Kevin is over. Leave personal attack on Abbott and conentrate on delivering policies. Do not go down the same path as Julia divisive spins! Also do not forget to get rid of Julia's media adviser on 457 visa

      Commenter
      John of Melbourne
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:19AM
    • Thank you. This is what I wanted to say - and you have said it better than I can. It's way past time to put back intelligence into the political discourse.

      Commenter
      springwoodman
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:41AM
    • I wish you were right Mava and hope that I am wrong but my experience/exposure to Australian voters is that they are not that informed or focused on policy or more importantly ideology. That is from both sides. Most of the voters should have to pass some of test to prove that they know something about what they are doing.

      Commenter
      Gman
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:30AM
  • Gee you'd want Bill Shorten in the trenches with you wouldn't you??

    The circus continues with a recycled ringmaster. Same old spin and rhetoric - same old clowns and tricks. Another Labor leader totally fixated with Abbott, Abbott, Abbott.

    It's like watching politics in Italy - a new leader every few months!!

    Commenter
    Smokin Mo
    Location
    Ryde
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:48AM
  • I got all my wishes yesterday..now I have post party blues. Still its good to be a Queenslander.

    Commenter
    thereisnoyouinLabor
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:47AM
    • 'Noyou', this is not state of origin. This focus on the leader, their gender or where they come from is meaningless. I am glad the leadership debacle is over. Policy debate anyone?

      Commenter
      Stephen
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:34AM
  • I have retired recently and a good super, thanks mainly to the Howard steady and decent government, which even the last several years of the Labor mismanagement was not able to destroy by much
    Now worries-free I let you youngsters watch the real wages going down, taxes up and a dream of decent golden years disappearing to never-never, while I have a drink or two on the overseas trips.
    Go for the shallow Twitter and Facebook politics, next wave of “revolutionary” solution and promises based on borrowed money and resulting higher taxes. After all if your father and grandpa always voted Labor, SMH and Canberra press gallery are praying for them, surely it must be good for the country,…but is it??

    Commenter
    Tom
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:47AM
    • Nice one Bob, We are in the same position as you. Unfortunately our kids are struggling with only part time jobs on offer as business has lost confidence and the price of everything rising. I'm hoping with a change of government in September that they will be able to get full time employment (they don't even care if their wages are a bit lower) so they can begin living independently.

      Commenter
      Liz
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:57AM
    • Yes it was a more stable world under Howard, all the family trusts and the negative gearing, then we had the GFC.

      If the rest of Australia goes the same way as Qld, cut backs then all that is ahead for our children will be casual and part time work. However if we all pay our fair share of taxes, we cold reduce the amount owed and provide our children with full time work.

      Commenter
      Rod
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:22AM
    • Under Howard your generation was getting rich by stealing from the younger generations.
      Neg gearing, property bubble, super rorts, tax cuts and family trusts.
      Huge winfalls from mining but no long term investment in the country. As has been pointed out by many comentators Howard was the most wasteful PM in our history. We will be paying for the opportunities he squandered for decades to come.
      Labor were just unlucky to be elected in 07 with the GFC and no savings after all the boom years. Considering this they ve done a great job.

      Commenter
      SB
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:00PM
  • With one of the best economies in the world largely due to the foresight of the current government why any person in their right mind would chance changing to an Abbott led government after what he has said about going down the European path of fiscal austerity on the false premise that Australia has high public debt. This type of economic thinking has strangled most European economies and is the last thing Australia needs at present. With the leadership issue over we must get behind Kevin Rudd and keep our country the envy of the world.

    Commenter
    RTP.
    Location
    Sawtell
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:46AM
    • First we have to recover from being the laughing stock of the world

      Commenter
      andyb4
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:04AM
    • So true... Many countries are clambering to have a treasurer predict a surplus and subsequently deliver a massive deficit, aren't they?

      Commenter
      S
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:17AM
    • yes, thank goodness the labor party had the foresight to put all that iron ore and coal in the ground.

      Commenter
      nck
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:21AM
    • @ andyb4: Abbott hasn't won yet.

      Commenter
      TheSurrealist
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:23AM
    • our government debt is fast approaching 100% of its annual tax revenue. in what fantasy land is this acceptable, not an issue, completely manageable? when i compare my debt i look at my income and my ability to repay it, i dont look at my employers earnings and his ability to pay it off for me. comparing debt to gdp may well be common practice but it is sheer folly. when you take on personal debt you usually must demonstrate a reasonable operating surplus - our govt has no surplus and no means of creating one. govt bleats about a reduced tax take - another furphy, the govt tax receipts today are higher than when this govt came into office - a lot higher - as a % of gdp they have shrunk - but in $ amounts and in real terms they have more money. sadly they have increased spending at a far higher rate than the tax revenue has increased.

      Commenter
      interested observer
      Location
      sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:55AM
  • I was a life long Liberal voter until the last term of the Howard government when I felt ignored. For the first time ever, in 2007 I voted Labor because Kevin Rudd offered a real choice. I was disgusted at the way he was removed in 2010 so I voted Liberal again. Nothing personal about Julia Gillard, I just didn't like the way he was removed. Until yesterday I was going to vote Liberal again, but now Kevin Rudd is back I will be voting Labor.

    Commenter
    Brenda
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:44AM
    • Just thought - ever considered voting on the basis of policies rather than personality or moral outrage?

      Commenter
      Tom
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:03AM
    • Why Brenda? Quite seriously, what has changed for you now with the reinstatement of a single figurehead known for his temper tantrums and egomania, that will change the entire Labor party's ability to run our country?

      Commenter
      S
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:24AM
    • Tom, get back to be when the Liberals announce some policies rather than just slash-and-burn austerity rhetoric that has destroyed European eonomies and is currently doing the same in Queensland.

      Commenter
      JustSomeGuy
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:34AM
    • I was with you until you said you were going to vote Labor, this election, because Kevin is back. Seriously the Libs deserved to get trounced in 2007 because they weren't listening and having a first term leader sacked was shocking..however, I'll not vote Labor again. They are an untrustworthy rabble and I am desperate for the serenity of a Liberal government again.

      Commenter
      thereisnoyouinLabor
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:56AM
  • It had to happen.

    Commenter
    Daniel
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:44AM
  • Farce. Politicians are contemptible.

    Commenter
    MikedOut
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:44AM
  • Hi,
    One thing I can not understand is the absolute conviction that people are screaming the country is doomed by its DEBT! Australia is in absolutely NO DANGER FROM ITS DEBT LEVELS! Australia's debt is under control, and when you ask responsible economists and business leaders they will tell you to lessen the blow of a massive downturn in the economy the government must spend to soften the blow. The downturn is not over, the GFC is still bouncing around in the global economy, there are signs of hope but no one would say the global economy is in good health. So stop just regurgitating the spin that Australia is doomed by its debt levels - it is simply not true...

    Commenter
    JasonD
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:43AM
    • You are correct. As a proportion of GDP, Australia's debt was higher in 1982 when John Howard was Treasurer. At the time we had the triple whammy of double digit unemployment, double digit interest rates and double digit inflation.

      Commenter
      Mike
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:46AM
    • No we are not in any trouble now, but now we are paying billions in interest that could pay for schemes such as the NDIS etc.

      The deficits are the issue, we are moving from the best of times (or pretty close to it) yet we are not running surplus and paying down the debts despite massive boosts in revenue ( though perhaps treasury is still overly optimistic). We are spending beyond our means and continue to do so.

      Someone has to reign it in? Is Rudd capable of being the "Fiscal conservative" he claims to be?

      Commenter
      Gavin H
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:53AM
    • That is dangerous thinking so simply say our debt is not risky. Combined total National debt is 300% and more of our GDP. That is a BIG number and you should be concerned. Couple the fact we have a significant housing bubble and a retraction in mining activity, there is a growing risk of debt repayments catching up with the wider economy and our ability to pay it all back!

      Commenter
      Liberator
      Location
      SEQLD
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:56AM
    • You're confusing the debt with the deficit. We have been in debt for a long time - even during Howard's years. A deficit takes place when a Govt spends more than it makes - thus adding to the debt. A surplus is important because it means that we are paying off that debt, and therefore in a far better economic position. What Labor has done is promised a surplus (which it failed to deliver because they were hoodwinked by the mining companies who pretty much designed the mining tax) as well as cost blowouts such as those required to fund boat people. In short, the financial management of this country has been a poor state of affairs, hence why Swanny and JG had to go. However Rudd will really be no better. He gave us the BER sheme that wasted billions of dollars, the one laptop per child scheme, which pretty much guaranteed a laptop for every child- even if families were on over $80,000 a year (hilarious) and so on. Govt waste at its best under Labor. They couldn't economically manage themselves out of a paper bag. Also, don't forget that Howard put us into surplus - this may have helped just a little going into the GFC - but nobody mentions that.

      Commenter
      Malik the magic sheep
      Location
      Perth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:01AM
    • Actually, the Howard government ran a structural deficit - they spent more than they earned. The 'surplus' that people go on about was simply a result of selling EVERYTHING that wasn't nailed down - something that can only be done once. The independent IMF declared that the Howard government was one of the most wasteful in our nation's history, putting the current government to shame. This IMF report didn't get a lot of attention as for some reason the MSM ignored it a bit - ran a small article only, whilst still running hundreds of articles about labor's money mismanagement :S
      Not to mention the last budget the Liberals put together, that had a $70 billion black hole and they paid off accountants to lie about it. $70 billion deficit per year is a lot worse than Labor's budgets.

      Commenter
      Economist
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:56AM
  • I'm not a fan of Julia Gillard or the Labor Party but she has been treated appallingly by her Caucus. After managing to negotiate government and steering the parliament almost to its completion in the tricky and at times perilous circumstances of the hung parliament she gets cut down at the final hurdle.

    Whatever her faults and failings at a personal and policy level she should have been able to lead the party to whatever outcome awaited them at the election. In the words of Nicola Roxon, Kevin Rudd is not a messiah.

    Commenter
    Nulla
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:42AM
  • Like the return of Steve Jobs to Apple

    Commenter
    Fanboi
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:40AM
  • Why is it that every presenter/writer appears to have a smugness about them regarding the result?
    The ALP remains the only option for a more prosperous and egalitarian community. The Liberals policies will lead to recession and a greater disparity between the rich and poor.

    Commenter
    mopsy
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:39AM
    • Straight out of the Labor play book. Of course, if we keep on as we are we'll eventually run out of money, and jobs will go everywhere. But that doesn't matter, the government will look after us. Oh, that's right we'll have no money. Sort of a catch-22 isn't it.

      Commenter
      I hate pies
      Location
      Qld
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:04AM
  • Spock to Scotty after Gillard's defeat:

    "Ruuuudddd!!!!!!!!"

    Commenter
    Malik the magic sheep
    Location
    Perth
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:38AM
  • Combet a gentleman, a thinker and intelligent like Tony Windsor. An inspiring
    Prime Minster one day.

    Commenter
    Chandra Singh
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:38AM
    • too right! We need him now.

      Commenter
      eat me
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:14AM
    • Combet has shown real class.

      I think this has put him well ahead of Willy Shorten (well he was well ahead anyway).

      Commenter
      BetterIwas
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:28AM
  • Why are we still talking about Rudd this morning. Surely its time to focus on Turnbull taking out Abbott.

    Commenter
    a don
    Location
    sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:37AM
    • Yes please!

      Commenter
      TimH
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:49AM
    • That won't be long .

      Commenter
      amro
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:53AM
    • Because he's our new PM. It's a fairly important position in our country. And last night was a fairly big deal. That's why

      Commenter
      I hate pies
      Location
      Qld
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:02AM
    • Is there time to get Malcolm back?

      Best result would be a huge swing back to Labor, precipitating a panic about Abbott's electability, and a return to Malcolm (as long as he can drop the silly NBN copper sandwich idea). I CANNOT vote for Abbott. I won't vote for Rudd. I WOULD vote for Malcolm.

      Commenter
      Sal
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:33PM
  • Thank You Julia Best wishes for a brighter future. chin up.

    Commenter
    Old Mary
    Location
    Westie
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:30AM
    • Gillard can stand tall - she has achieved much in the most trying circumstances

      Commenter
      mopsy
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:04AM
    • Well at least she now knows what it feels like to be knifed by your "friends"...

      Politicians are very ordinary people...

      Commenter
      paul
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:23AM
    • Go away Gillard......Rudd saved you from a total embarrassment in Sept.

      Commenter
      paul
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:14PM
  • What's Rudd going to do ? On one hand it must be tempting to rush to the polls and hope the honeymoon lasts for a few weeks.

    On the other hand he might want time to build up brand Kevin and show he's a new man.

    Which he is, right ?

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:30AM
    • Well we had Julia, then the real Julia, then the real real Julia. So now maybe he wants time to be Kevin, then the changed Kevin, then the really changed Kevin. What a joke !

      Commenter
      Terri
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:02AM
    • He will want to rebuild, enjoy his PM status again, I would not be surprised if election would be moved after 14th September.

      Commenter
      sedona
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:47PM
  • Today is my 30th birthday - all I want is some writs issued, and that would make it a very happy birthday indeed!

    Commenter
    Thomas
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:30AM
  • Gosh! Abbott ,you can't make a silk purse out of sow ears.

    Commenter
    Wendyv
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:28AM
    • Imagine someone had said that about Gillard 2 weeks ago.. The howls of "misogyny" would never have ended. But it's about a man, so it must be OK...

      Commenter
      Art
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:41AM
    • Art, no doubt you spoke up all the time about the outrageous rubbish directed at Gillard? Or are you like so many others and only stick your head up when you think you've found a gotcha moment?

      Commenter
      jofek
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:53AM
    • Jofek, I actually decried the general low tone of politics here at some point. However, when I think back on all the personal insults dished out by Labor (even in parliament), I do not actually think that Julia was especially victimised because of her gender. But she used the perception of it as a political strategy. So, I will just call out misandry whenever I see it. Someone has to stand up for the boys... Gillard certainly had her share of defenders - even a personal army ("Women for Julia"). Maybe I should start "Men for Tony"... Hmmmmm....

      Commenter
      Art
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:51AM
    • Oh Art, you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you mate? For a charge of misogyny there would need to be some specific referal to Gillard's sex, you know like approving menus about her body, or standing in front of signs about 'witch', or refering to her as 'that woman'.

      Sexism is real. Any man who denies it is a liar.

      Commenter
      pugwash
      Location
      earth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:22AM
    • The muppet jofek is still around....looks like your precious Gillard and Swan are now history.....what a shame the labor party stole of fun of being the ones to punt them

      Commenter
      paul
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:26AM
    • pugwash - really? And you had to thrown in a personal attack to get that out of your system. Can't we just debate the issues and drop the insults? The words used by Wendyv included "Sow". Just imagine how that would have been interpreted!! I stand by my observation.

      Commenter
      Art
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:50AM
    • paul, thanks for your valuable contribution.

      Commenter
      jofek
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:12PM
    • Yes paul, no need to call jofek a muppet. Let's all try and raise the bar a little. I may not agree with jofek or pugwash, but I am not going to insult them for expressing an opinion. This is a blog, not Parliament ;)

      Commenter
      Art
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:35PM
    • jofek(Hon. GF, Bach. Lab.) - So we're back to Kevvy - are you in his camp now or happy to throw hand grenades into his compound?

      Commenter
      Smack
      Location
      City of the Fallen
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:52PM
    • Smack, I'm pretty unimpressed by the whole thing. I think I've been pretty clear along the way though that I'm far more a critic of the populist obstructionist visionless born to rules opposite than I've ever been a one-eyed supporter of Gillard. No I'm not going to give huge pats on the back to Rudd on the back of his 3 year long campaign to destabilise Gillard and to damage his own Party. What I'll continue to do is argue with the LNP and the squaddies when they talk rubbish (frequently) and defend good Labor policy where it exists (in many areas). How about you; finding anything yet that inspires you about the Party of Pantophobia?

      Commenter
      jofek
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:05PM
    • Well jofek(Hon GF, Bach. Lab.) - Your problem will be finding good ALP policy when it exists - personally it'd be better for you to go looking for Labor Values - more chance of finding some. I don't think Tones fears Ruddy too much - he already helped(along with the ALP) to put paid to him once already. Don't worry Ruddy's ego & preening will come to the fore again for every voter to see & detest(much like before). Your honorary godson says hi.

      Commenter
      Smack
      Location
      City of the Fallen
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:05PM
    • Smack, I'd give the QT points today to Rudd over Abbott. If Rudd can keep 'Albo' under control and continue to draw attention to the negative sludge coming from the guys opposite he may actually get people to start focusing on policy and the lack thereof from the other lot. When do the debates kick off?

      Commenter
      jofek
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 4:32PM
  • Makes no difference who leads Labor, they still deserve to face the wrath of the Australian public on election day for delivering us all into a lifetime of massive debt

    Commenter
    Hanso
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:27AM
    • God will save the queen, but who will save the labour government. Voting anyone other than them this time round.

      Commenter
      petr
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:42AM
    • I am looking forward to paying the debt off over the remainder of my working life as a loyal tax paying servant... The Country can't even afford to staff the hospitals we are building... how will we fare in 3 years time?

      Commenter
      Liberator
      Location
      SEQLD
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:43AM
    • But who should we reward for shepherding our economy through the GFC and coming out the other side with a AAA rating, low unemployment and low interest rates?

      Commenter
      biggerthan
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:46AM
    • And reward for saving us from recession for NBN, For Gonski, Disability, AAA credit rating, best rate of growth in years, low interest rates, low inflation, doing something for Carbon reduction, for addressing unbalance in taxation, reducing taxation from record highs under Howard, getting us out of illegal wars honourably, and above all getting rid of the worst Government in Australia's history

      Commenter
      AustraliaFirst
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:47AM
    • The debt is the smallest in the OECD. It's only about 9% of GDP, which is the envy of the rest of the world. Our debt was 23% of GDP in 1982 when John Howard was Treasurer and 45% of GDP after WW2.

      Commenter
      Mike
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:50AM
    • @Liberator

      "The Country can't even afford to staff the hospitals "

      We can staff them using boat people. Another of Labor's "solutions to complex problems".

      Commenter
      Malik the magic sheep
      Location
      Perth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:04AM
    • Do your research, ignoramus. We have extremely low debt & interest rates thanks to Labour. People forget Abbott knifed Nelson and Turnbull. If Murdoch's & Reinheart's puppet-Abbott gets in say goodbye to Medicare, the ABC, SBS, job security, the environment (97% of climate scientists agree), restricting women in the workforce by paying them to stay at home, putting bibles in every classroom, same sex marriage debate... the list goes on... multiculturalism, republic... By the next Ashes series you'll be barracking for England, going to church and praying for the monarchy from where he was born...
      The people of Aust want Turnbull over Abbott... so much for democracy

      Commenter
      Dave
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:08AM
    • @biggerthan

      We should thank China. Their massive stimulus package saved the Australian economy. Unfortunately Labor was a tale of waste and inefficient policy.

      Furthermore, it is becoming tiresome having the economic illiterate quote a AAA credit rating as a sign of a strong economy, it's a purely financial measure. It shows we can repay our debt with (almost) zero default risk. It doesn't show whether your economy will slide into recession in 2014, and that the government does not yet see it. If we continue a similar thought forwards, low interest rates are also not a signal of a strong economy.

      Such arguments, along with the 'look at the Australian economy relative to Europe' are simplistic and misleading.

      Commenter
      Aby
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:10AM
    • biggerthan

      Our banking sector is mainly responsible for our AAA rating being as they are rated the 5th most profitable banks in the world. However, the Labor government has been warned to get it's finances sorted out or we could lose our AAA rating. Do try to ascertain the facts before commenting.

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:15AM
    • @Hanso, have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_national_debt Then tell me whether you think that Australia has a debt problem. Interesting to see that national debt skyrocketed between approx 1996 and 2007. Who was PM then, could you remind me?

      Commenter
      starsoid
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:34AM
    • You mean the wrath of News Ltd., Alan Jones, Ray Hadley and the rest of the right wing bigots that will turn Australia into a country of climate change deniers, anti humanitarian racists and those who look after the big end of town. But they will get the government they deserve in "Dr. No Policies" Tony Abbott, Hockey, Robb, Pyne, Barnaby Joyce and the rest of the clowns who gave us the GST and did little for education and the health system.

      Commenter
      Tedstar
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:40AM
    • The overwhelming majority of people who complain about the Fed govt debt have massive debt themselves.

      If anyone could borrow at 1-2% most would borrow a much as they could.

      Wait for Abbott to announce his Nth OZ project. I bet it will be done not on debt but by selling off the farm to foreigners.

      Commenter
      nolongerconfused
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:42AM
    • Mike, you're wasting your time telling people like Hanso the truth - they live in their warped reality and nothing will shift them - it's the essence of true conservatism, treating the truth as suffering from relevance deprivation.
      Cheers,
      C

      Commenter
      Christopher
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:45PM
  • Community and media-enhanced anti-Gillard sentiment reminded me of the anti-Whitlam hysteria of 1975 - way beyond what was reasonable. Sort of like mob rule; very little rationality. Necessarily messy inside the Labor Party but yesterday was public political drama, not a sad day for politics at all. No blood on the streets. Outcome: at least the possibility of a half-decent electoral contest. With Julia, it was all over already. Such is life.

    Commenter
    Sandgroper2
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:27AM
    • Of course, when Abbott knifed Turnbull in their anti-science about-face it was only proper, but when Labor elect their own leader (since we do not have a presidency!) it's untenable.

      Right wing hypocrisy - an art form they like to accuse progressives of constantly, but only they know how to take to the ultimate extreme.

      Commenter
      pugwash
      Location
      earth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:14PM
  • Rudd: Abbott will drive the Australian economy into recession like Cameron has done in the UK. Oh dear, oh dear Anyone see a UK style housing bubble anywhere in Aus? No?

    Does it mean our house prices don’t mirror UK’s like in 1998 being £81,722, but at the peak of the market in the third quarter of 2007 the average price was £219,256 – err a total increase of 168%?

    Perhaps we have had 20 major lending institutions acquired or bankrupted like the UK has had? No? Could it be that the lending agencies have struck down our credit rating from AAA to AA? No?

    Well it must be that our banking sector is not structured by superior forms of regulation and authority? No? Do I have proof that our banking sector structure is superior to that of that of the UK? Yes!

    Do you wan’t to know what is hurting the UK economy but not hurting ours don’t you? Here you are then:

    "The E.U. zone the destination for just under half of British exports, contracted by 0.2 percent in the first three months of 2013, hurt by austerity measures in many member states."

    Nevertheless what do the U.K.’s economists have to say, wait for it:

    “SIGNS OF RECOVERY

    The British trade figures come after a brighter run of economic data recently.
    May's private-sector surveys of purchasing managers in the manufacturing and services sectors point to a 0.5 percent rise in British economic output in the second quarter, building on 0.3 percent growth in the first quarter.”

    Based on the evidence and the facts of the matter that KRudd is a dud and only fit for manifesting a scare campaign that has no substance other than his weird imagination.

    We've swapped a liar for another liar.

    Commenter
    Pen of hrba
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:25AM
    • Wow Pen, don't you have an economics lecture to teach about now?

      Commenter
      Malik the magic sheep
      Location
      Perth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:41AM
    • Right, and of course, Tony Abbott could never be described as "only fit for manifesting a scare campaign that has no substance". C'mon, if you're gonna be harsh on inflammitory language that ignores facts, you have to apportion it equally to both sides.

      Commenter
      Jesterhat
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:55AM
    • Malik the magic sheep

      No, I simply stick to the facts and only he facts. It is the easiest way to the truth.

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:07AM
    • Bought a house for $150K in '96, sold it for $600K in '07 (300% increase). And you reckon we don't have a RE bubble like the UK? Record immigration and rampant foreign investment are the keys to keeping that bubble inflated. What we need now is a 'slash and burn' neoliberal austerity government to make sure that we get our fair share of GFC. Never fear... Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's Super Tony. Enjoy your warm mug of hemlock.

      Commenter
      That's PM Misery Guts to you!
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:19AM
    • Based on the evidence and the facts of the matter that Dr No is a dud and only fit for manifesting a scare campaign that has no substance other than his weird imagination.

      We've swapped a liar for another liar.

      Commenter
      TheSurrealist
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:30AM
    • Have you or your friends been to the UK recently?. If so, did you go up north. It's a mess.

      Have a look at the LNP cut backs and what they are doing to parts of Qld. Australia is a growing nation. If every one pays their fair share of tax, millionaires included, we won't be in debt in 5 years and the average workers will keep their jobs.

      Commenter
      Rod
      Location
      the Coast
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:41AM
    • Pen, do you or have you lived in the UK? Yes, the EU has contributed to the economic downturn however so have the banks. The housing prices here dipped though not as much as anticipated and have risen a little or stabilised in recent months. The cost of living is high with salaries not being increased for the average working person. Food kitchens are helping increasing numbers of people in the lower income sectors. Jobs ae not easy to come by either. Great to quote figures however do come and live here. Australia has managed to keep her head above water for far longer than this side of the world due to good leadership methinks.

      Commenter
      expatinuk
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:06AM
    • Pen, using facts selectively is just as disingenuous as fabrication.

      Commenter
      davros
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:07AM
    • UK's problem is too much debts and not enough people working hard to pay for social services. We don't want to get to that situation, which is why we should get rid of Labor. Three more years of Labor and we'll be just like the UK.

      It's better to tighten our belts a little, early on, than to face bankruptcy.

      Commenter
      Marie
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:08AM
    • Pen, yeh right, and Abbott could not lie straight in bed, do you forget the Libs last effort, the lies on the Iraq war, the no WMDs, the lies on kids overboard, the lies on Worknochoices, the lies on Medicare and dental care. The Libs wrote the handbook on lies pal. Funny how we missed the GFC, have low unemployment, low inflation and an economy that is the envy of Greece, spain the US and most of Europe, and has a triple A rating, including the IMF. Who cares about the Poms, nobody !

      Commenter
      Piesnchess
      Location
      Mt Evelyn
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:48AM
    • Labor has been in for 6 years remember and what have they done except stuff the country, so how is it abbotts fault? seriously you have too much time on your hands when u need to be running your union your members Pen

      Commenter
      Hornberger
      Location
      Singapore
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:15PM
  • Please let us get this over with in August.

    Commenter
    Geck0
    Location
    Beerwah
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:21AM
    • Agree! There's no money left now - beats me why they're bringing him back.

      Commenter
      amee
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:47AM
    • Sure have an early election. But only if you promised to stop the longest ever dummy spit in history, if labor wins. If the coalition wins, hopefully, the labor supporters have some class and let the government rule without the endless negativity, whining and whinging, we have to put up with the past 6 years.

      Commenter
      bt
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:47AM
  • While Julia has many sympathisers, I wonder if anyone will miss Wayne Swan?

    Commenter
    Jonathan C
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:19AM
    • His feathered friends will. The pond won't be the same without him.

      Commenter
      Malik the magic sheep
      Location
      Perth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:37AM
    • Probably not, but he was Treasurer through the Global Financial Crisis and ensured that we retain our AAA rating, low unemployment etc. Not a flashy character, but clearly a good Treasurer.

      Commenter
      biggerthan
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:47AM
    • The bond markets will miss him.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:48AM
    • So a Bible is placed on a chair for the swearing in? What a pity they do not understand its metaphoric contents in its entirety?

      Yeshua (Jesus): I said, You are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken (Jn. 10:34-6).

      I swear by almighty God?

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:05AM
    • Swan was one of the most deceitful treasurers of all time....and did no favours for Gillard.....The "guaranteed" surplus was a total fraud, and it will be interesting to see what comes out of treasury about all that..

      Commenter
      paul
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:20AM
    • Swanne - Awarded world's best treasurer by economists.
      Costello - Most wasteful spending by the IMF. Just the facts.

      Commenter
      Rick
      Location
      Tamworth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:08PM
    • Firstly, the report wasn't by the IMF, despite what the media says.

      Second, Swan was the one who couldn't achieve a surplus. Costello achieved 10.

      Commenter
      P Rowland
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:19PM
    • Rick@ Tamworth 2.08pm

      The report you mention was a Working Paper which has a statement on it reading:
      "This working paper should not be reported as representing the views of the IMF"

      therefore the view in the report does not represent an IMF view, as you incorrectly claim.

      Commenter
      yys
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:30PM
  • You know that old song - "Oh, what a night" - I can't get the tune out of my head. What will today produce? The government front bench will look a bit empty this afternoon.

    Commenter
    Rosie
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:13AM
    • It looked pretty devoid when it was full.

      Commenter
      andyb4
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:06AM
    • Reckon the Libs front bench will look pretty sad and dejected, they just lost their main asset in Julia, and now know its game on, and a game changer.

      Commenter
      Piesnchess
      Location
      Mt Evelyn
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:17PM
    • The shenanigans of the Labor Party & their leaders put the old Hollies classic "On a Carousel" to the forefront of my mind so much that all day its been in my head

      "Riding along on a carousel
      Trying to catch up to you
      Riding along on a carousel
      Will I catch up to you

      Horses chasing 'cause they're racing
      So near yet so far
      On a carousel, on a carousel

      Nearer, nearer by changing horses
      Still so far away
      People fighting for their places
      Just get in the way

      Soon you'll leave and then I'll lose you
      Still we're going round
      On a carousel, on a carousel

      Round and round and round and round and round
      And round and round and round with you
      Up, down, up, down, up, down too

      As she leaves she drops the presents
      That she won before
      Pulling ducks out of the water
      Got the highest score

      Now's my chance and I must take it
      A case of do-or-die
      On a carousel, on a carousel

      Round and round and round and round and round
      And round and round and round with you
      Up, down, up, down, up, down too

      Riding along on a carousel
      Trying to catch up to you
      Riding along on a carousel
      Will I catch up to you

      Now we take our ride together
      No more chasing her
      On a carousel, on a carousel

      On a carousel, on a carousel"

      Sounds like the Manchester lads had KRudd et al suused circa 1965!

      Commenter
      dominic
      Location
      annandale
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:30PM
  • How much is this sideshow costing taxpayers? New ministers being sworn in only to be discharged in a few weeks for an election. If the independents have any shred of dignity they withdraw confidence and support and bring this Parliament to an end NOW.

    Commenter
    brian
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:10AM
    • That will keep GG busy.
      Rudd will save some seats, but ALP is gone for a long time.
      Rudd was vindicated.
      Gillard gone to back bench, where she should be from the beginning.

      What a pity Rudd did not see through her character

      Commenter
      sedona
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:34AM
    • I hate to have to inform fools like you BUT the Lib/Nat party of self interest is NOT putting forward a motion of no confidence, so just how in hell do you think it becomes the job of the Iderpendents and Greens?

      Commenter
      markd195
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:54PM
  • Is the Labor leadership question settled yet ?

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:07AM
    • The ALP have settled their leadership problems but with the tide turning we will now await the Liberal leadership come back into the news. Will the media be as hard on the Liberals as they have been on Julia and Kevin?
      The Liberals may need Malcolm now Kevin is back. I am sure Tony Abbott has forgotten he only beat Malcolm Turnbull by one vote.

      Commenter
      Robyn L
      Location
      Rural NSW
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:53AM
    • Apparently Gillard is being courted to mount a challenge after Rudd's awful performance as Prime Minister elect ever since he was elevated to the position at 7.30 last night. Shorten is waivering privately but says publicly he fully supports Rudd. Howes says he's got Kev's back.

      Commenter
      Fruitcakes and Watermelons
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:04AM
    • Doesn't matter how many vote Abbott beat Turnbull by. People forget, Abbott won the Liberal leadership, and within 6 months destroyed Kevin Rudd. He made fantastic ground to the stage where Labor were desperate enough to knife their sitting PM, as they feared a potential election defeat. Abbott then continued to gain ground on Julia and Labor.

      The Liberals will sensibly only unite further in the face of Rudd. In the 6 months Abbott was in opposition to Rudd the Liberals only ever made ground. Now they get to do it all over again, with the additional ammunition of Labor's own public denunciations of Rudd.

      Commenter
      Aby
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:07AM
    • Here's hoping they swap out Tony for Malcolm!

      Commenter
      GuybrushThreepwood
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:13AM
    • Yes, karma, er the faceless ALP men again stepped in and righted a wrong.

      Commenter
      Commando - Involved again
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:56AM
    • Unfortunately for you and Steve H, yes.

      Still feeling confident of a thumping win in September??

      Commenter
      Sam
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:09AM
    • But they wont swap Tony for Malcolm will they? I thought they were stable.

      Commenter
      AL
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:35AM
    • Very funny. Keep them coming Fruitcakes. Nice to have a laugh at anytime.

      Commenter
      Altered
      Location
      Esperance
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:38AM
    • YEP, now bring backTURNBULL !!

      Commenter
      Piesnchess
      Location
      Mt Evelyn
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:15PM
    • Can we have some Liberal leadership speculation after the next Poll? Go Malcolm, Hawke did it and all you need is 2 extra votes.

      Commenter
      AndreP
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 1:11PM
  • Let's all brace ourselves for a morning of hearing how "it was the hardest decision of my life" from all the newly recycled Rudd supporters. Self preservation has never been much of an issue for the rest of us.

    Commenter
    SG2
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:02AM
    • Powerful and influential union figurehead Greg Combet remains loyal and principled.
      Powerful and influential union figurehead Bill Shorten crumbles in the face of Rudd aligned forces.
      What could possibly account for this dichotomy?
      I'd be putting my money on Combet as the next Leader of the Opposition.

      Commenter
      Halfback
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 9:16AM
    • All those moaning about Rudd are traitors to the ALP.

      Would you really prefer to see Abbott in the Lodge later this year??

      Or are you willing to put your petty personal feelings aside and work to make sure that an Abbott Government does not become a reality.

      All the moaning on this blog and others is playing into the hands of the Tories.

      Commenter
      innerwestchick
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:26AM
    • I think it will be Swan, with Combet as deputy.

      Commenter
      Peter Warrington
      Location
      marrickville
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:00PM
  • it's a sad day for aussie politics...

    Commenter
    weasel
    Location
    Date and time
    June 27, 2013, 9:01AM
    • How can it be a sad day for Australian politics? At least at the next election people have a decent choice. Gillard failed to win the people over and the majority of Australians, according to polls preferred Rudd to Gillard. At 29% of the Gallop poll, she was an embarrassment to the LNP and sinking faster than the Titanic. The LNP had to do something. Abbot may still walk into the job, but at least the Australian people have had the original choice of PM returned to lead the party they overwhelmingly voted in.

      Commenter
      Santa Claus
      Location
      sydney
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:18AM
    • Its a wonderful day for politics.The wrong has been righted, but now we must focus on Abbott. Abbot Vs Turnbull is now the focus.

      The Age Pol on Can labor win the election is saying 56% YES 44% NO

      After 135,086 votes

      Commenter
      JB
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:25AM
    • Santa, you must still be off with the faeries. People to NOT elect a PM. Rudd was NOT elected PM. He was NOT chosen by the people. If people don't understand a simple basic point such as this, then they shouldn't be voting in the first place.

      Commenter
      The Other Guy
      Location
      Geelong
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:42AM
    • Certain "Shock Jocks" are sad too the co ordinated campaign to oust Julia went a little too well!

      Commenter
      Rod
      Location
      the Coast
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:43AM
    • It is also fortunate that the report identifying Telstra's copper network as being less than satisfactory (in fact, in dire need of repairs) came out recently also. It has really canned the LNP's copper-crippled network. I still dare to dream of fibre to the home in my suburb.

      Commenter
      GuybrushThreepwood
      Location
      Oxley
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:44AM
    • Spot on...a tragic day for Australian politics. It should never have come to this Kevin should have been man enough three years ago to cede defeat. If it hadn't been for his ego-driven, churlish acts of relentless sabotage, Julia would have flourished as PM and her achievements would have received the public lauding they merited. Can't believe Kevin's audacity in pronouncing himself to be Labor's saviour after his single-minded trashing of the Labor brand. He has done more than anyone in the Labor party to give Tony a leg-up into power. Sickening.

      Commenter
      BloodOnHisHands
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 10:54AM
    • On a brighter note, bargains to be had at the Women for Gillard closing down sale, and red underpants going cheap at Conroy.com.

      Commenter
      Fruitcakes and Watermelons
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:00AM
    • Sad that the media and coalition bile machine ousted a fine prime minister who did not pander to them, but Labor have the policies. The Coalition have nothing by Tony Abbott. He'll be ousted by Turnbull within months. The right wing nutters who post in comments are NOT the majority.

      Commenter
      pugwasg
      Location
      earth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:00AM
    • Weasel, it would be a great day for aussie politics, if the Libs had the ticker to replace Tones with Turnbull, but I doubt they have the nous too. Their leader is nearly woefully unpopular as Julia was, and has taken them far too the Right.

      Commenter
      Piesnchess
      Location
      Mt Evelyn
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:42AM
    • At last Chris Bowen is rewarded with the portfolio he has been educated in, I am so glad Australia finally has a Treasurer with an Economics degree, so I would say it is definitely a wonderful day in Australian politics. Watch out Joe you cannot baffle everyone with bullshit anymore..

      Commenter
      ClutchingAtStraws
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 11:44AM
    • The Murdoch Media has made politics sad

      Commenter
      Rick
      Location
      Tamworth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 12:06PM
    • no its not it was sad to look at what Gillard and Swan were doing to our beautiful country

      Commenter
      sedona
      Location
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 2:27PM
    • Yeh world class upload speeds being built, a solid economy, good eduction and health care.

      We need more of this kind of 'wrecking'

      Commenter
      pugwash
      Location
      earth
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 3:15PM
    • Surprise, surprise! Didn't Abbot down Malcolm Turnbull??
      May be it didn't happen.

      Commenter
      Blokey
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 27, 2013, 5:18PM
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