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Politics wrap: 5 June, 2013

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Some things to look back upon at the end of the day:

  • the government has announced a review of the case of the Egyptian man held in detention since his arrival;
  • the opposition has been pursuing the government over this - and other security related matters - for more than a week so it will be feeling like it's had a bit of a win;
  • the government's education reforms have passed the House of Representatives; and
  • more internal Labor sniping including allegations the government is overspun.

One more day of the sitting week to go before a week off and then the final sitting fortnight of the Parliament.

Thanks to everyone who read and commented. Super big thanks to Andrew Meares and Alex Ellinghausen.

See you in the morning.

 

National security correspondent David Wroe has filed this update on the inquiry announced by Prime Minister Julia Gillard (see 3.11 pm post).

Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison wants another chance (see 11.36 am post). He's called a press conference for a bit later this afternoon. Has someone told Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon?

Incidentally Mr Fitzgibbon called Channel 9 camera man Mark Jessop - he of the shooting-while-falling-into-a-flower-pot photograph I posted at 11.38 am - to see if he was okay. He is. Physically that is. But he might be a bit sick of the "how's the flower pot" jokes.

And that was also unsuccessful (see 4.22 pm post). No more talking about the Egyptian man. No more divisions on divisions. Just general parliamentary behaviour. The chamber rapidly empties.

Assistant Treasurer David Bradbury in the House of Representatives on Wednesday.

Assistant Treasurer David Bradbury in the House of Representatives on Wednesday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

They call him Lightening Hunt.

Liberal MP Greg Hunt in the House of Representatives on Wednesday.

Liberal MP Greg Hunt in the House of Representatives on Wednesday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Independent MP Andrew Wilkie wanted have the whole matter of the government's handling of the Egyptian man's case referred to Parliament's security committee (the one chaired by government MP Anthony Byrne who had some less than flattering remarks to make about the government's funding of security agencies last week).

Two oppositions MPs missed the vote including environment spokesman Greg Hunt who pleaded that he was in "a soundproof recording booth doing a television interview" and promises to "run faster next time". The opposition is now trying to get the vote redone.

Shadow immigration spokesman Scott Morrison and environment spokesman Greg Hunt.

Shadow immigration spokesman Scott Morrison and environment spokesman Greg Hunt. Photo: Andrew Meares

Back at 3.11 pm I mentioned a suspension of standing orders. It's more or less still going on.

Leader of the house Anthony Albanese in the House of Representatives on Wednesday.

Leader of the house Anthony Albanese in the House of Representatives on Wednesday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Hmmm what else is going on?

Don't let anyone tell you budget estimates committees are boring. Watch Labor Senator Mark Bishop go a bit stir crazy in a hearing last night. I'm with Senator Doug Cameron myself - "watch my tea!".

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Labor senator Mark Bishop loses his cool during a fractious economics committee meeting.

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The power behind the throne. Is that a fur stole?

Frontbenchers Christopher Pyne and Julie Bishop talk with Peta Credlin, chief of staff to Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, during question time on Wednesday.

Frontbenchers Christopher Pyne and Julie Bishop talk with Peta Credlin, chief of staff to Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, during question time on Wednesday. Photo: Andrew Meares

He has a point. The opposition did not execute that move quite as smoothly as it might have:

The PM has called time on question time but the opposition is still attempting to suspend standing orders in relation to the Egyptian man (if anyone has printable suggestions for a shorthand way of referring to said person I'd be grateful).

Barely moments ago (at the 3.01 pm post to be precise) that burger was "greasy":

 

The PM informs the house that earlier today she asked the Inspector General of Intelligence and Security to "examine the management of Australian government agencies of persons seeking asylum who present complex security issues, particularly this man".

Meanwhile, in the real world:

Oh behave.

Attorney General Mark Dreyfus during question time on Wednesday.

Attorney General Mark Dreyfus during question time on Wednesday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The opposition is attempting to spread the blame for the Egyptian man's case evenly among government ministers. So far it has raised his case with the PM, the Minister for Immigration, Brendan O'Connor, the Minister for Home Affairs, Jason Clare, and the Attorney-General, Mark Dreyfus.

The Minister for Workplace Relations, Bill Shorten, answers a question about workplace bullying.

"Everyone who goes to work deserves to come home safely."

Labor MP Kevin Rudd during question time on Wednesday.

Labor MP Kevin Rudd during question time on Wednesday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The government is stressing that the Egyptian man "has been in detention at all times".

Shortly before question time the Minister for Immigration, Brendan O'Connor, told Parliament that a departmental submission about the man's case was made to the minister (who was then Chris Bowen) on September 28 last year. Mr O'Connor said the submission was to do with the complex issues surrounding the man's application for protection. It was not signed by the minister or returned to the department.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott and Prime Minister Julia Gillard during question time on Wednesday.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott and Prime Minister Julia Gillard during question time on Wednesday. Photo: Andrew Meares

The opposition devoted the first two of its questions to the economy and the level of debt. It turns its attention - again - to the case of the Egyptian man held in detention (as it has for much of this week and the last).

(Bear in mind the PM copped some flack in the caucus meeting yesterday for not pushing back hard enough against the opposition's 'stop the boats' mantra.)

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott asked the PM if the Egyptian man's case does not show that "Labor's policies have made Australians less safe than under the Howard government". (That last bit is ruled out of order by the Speaker, Anna Burke).

Ms Gillard said that the person referred to "has always been held in detention".

"We have seen the divide in Australian politics between this government that is building and investing in the future and this opposition that's trading in fear," Ms Gillard said. "Why would he be creating fear? Well not because he's got any answers, that's for sure."

Prime Minister Julia Gillard during question time on Wednesday.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard during question time on Wednesday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The government, as you can imagine, is very keen to talk about its education reforms that were passed by the House of Representatives shortly before lunch time (see 11.56 am post).

The Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, has used the first question from her own side to hammer home just who voted how on this issue.

"We endorsed, for Australia's children, a better education for the future," Ms Gillard said. "You would think in this parliament there could be a moment of unity [but] they [the opposition] have voted no to a better future for our childre."

Prime Minister Julia Gillard arrives for question time  on Wednesday.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard arrives for question time on Wednesday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Ho hum.

Kevin Rudd during question time on Wednesday.

Kevin Rudd during question time on Wednesday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Question time.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard arrives for question time on Wednesday.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard arrives for question time on Wednesday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

I guess that answers that then (see 10.29 am post):

The Minister for Climate Change and Industry, Greg Combet, is speaking to the National Press Club. One questioner notes that he was known to be reluctant to enter politics.

"I wonder why," Mr Combet says. "This is my 30th year working full time for the labour movement. I am still hungry to do more."

 

Climate Change Minister Greg Combet speaking to the National Press Club on  Wednesday.

Climate Change Minister Greg Combet speaking to the National Press Club on Wednesday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

An egregious error has been drawn to my attention for which I must apologise. During yesterday's blog I reported on the annual Coalition v Labor v press gallery swim race (11.04 am post). I included Liberal MP Ewen McKenzie in the Coalition's line up. Who doesn't actually exist (Ewen Jones does). Neither of these figments of my imagination participated. It was, in fact, National Party Senator Bridget McKenzie. My apologies. Egg meet face.

 

I had these glasses before you were even able to grow a beard and do your top button up, sonny.

Climate Change Minister Greg Combet addresses the National Press Club on Wednesday.

Climate Change Minister Greg Combet addresses the National Press Club on Wednesday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The Treasurer, Wayne Swan: "I think it's time a few people put a sock in it."

Treasurer Wayne Swan during a press conference on Wednesday.

Treasurer Wayne Swan during a press conference on Wednesday. Photo: Andrew Meares

Sometimes even a prime minister feels a bit of fist pumping is in order.

The opposition reacted to the bill's passing (see 11.56am post) by accusing the government of trying to "ram" it through the House of Representatives and "gag" debate. Education spokesman Christopher Pyne argued that Parliament was being asked to pass a bill where there was no national agreement as only two out of eight jurisdictions had signed up to the funding reforms.

The opposition was also upset at independent MP Rob Oakeshott's move to gag debate on the bill. Mr Oakeshott - a big supporter of the changes - said that time had come to vote on the bill.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Education Minister Peter Garrett as a division is called to force a vote on the education reforms on Wednesday.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Education Minister Peter Garrett as a division is called to force a vote on the education reforms on Wednesday. Photo: Andrew Meares

At 9.34am I promised to bring you the interview between online political editor Tim Lester and Labor Senator Doug Cameron. Here it is.

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The House of Representatives has just passed the government's education reforms.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard embraces Education Minister Peter Garrett after the passing of the Australian Education Bill.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard embraces Education Minister Peter Garrett after the passing of the Australian Education Bill. Photo: Andrew Meares

It's a hard life in the gallery - sometimes you have to get the shot while walking backwards. (With apologies to veteran Channel 9 cameraman and all round nice guy Mark Jessop who sacrificed his dignity for the sake of his job. Surely he should get some kind of bonus network executives?)

Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon with the media at Parliament House on Wednesday.

Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon with the media at Parliament House on Wednesday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

"A bit of colour and movement" aka in which Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon learns what it feels like to be the only hot chip fought over by hungry seagulls. Only moments before the hard working members of the press gallery had been attending a press conference held by opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison. But Mr Morrison was dumped in favour of hotter property.

Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon speaks to the media at Parliament House on Wednesday.

Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon speaks to the media at Parliament House on Wednesday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Labor Senator David Feeney has two words when it comes to the preselection battle for the Melbourne seat of Batman - bring it.

Reporters were being briefed yesterday that there were problems with Left candidate Mary-Anne Thomas's desire to seek preselection because of continuity issues with her party membership. (I wonder who was doing that backgrounding?)

Senator Feeney has released a statement in which he says local ALP members "must be able to have the candidate of their choice" and implores the Victorian branch of the party to give Ms Thomas special dispensation to run.

And they say politicians lack grace.

 

About this time last week the government's plan to introduce legislation reforming political donations and party funding was going down the gurgler.

One of the experts on the political donations system in Australia - associate professor of politics at the University of Melbourne, Sally Young - has written this piece on how our system of funding stacks up against other countries. Basically, it's no strings attached.

"We give public funding but don't ask for anything in return. That's not the way it is done in other countries," Professor Young writes.

"Even in the US, the home of free market political fund-raising, if a presidential candidate accepts public funding for their election campaign, they have to agree not to raise private contributions and not to spend more than the amount of public funds they receive."

 

It's just occurred to me that this must be why Liberal MP Alex Hawke was quoting the lyrics of The Children are Our Future in the chamber a few minutes ago.

There is actually some legislation being discussed in Parliament today - amendments to the bill that provides for the government's education reforms. (I'm trying to refer to them as the Gonksi something or other because I don't think that means much to anyone.)

Part of the government's plans includes requiring schools to face tougher reporting standards when it comes to their plans for improvements.

Education reporter Daniel Hurst has more details here.

Education Minister Peter Garrett debating the government's education bill on Wednesday.

Education Minister Peter Garrett debating the government's education bill on Wednesday. Photo: Andrew Meares

And this NSW man:

The dilemma has also occurred to a few MPs around the traps. Such as this proud Queenslander. I believe the technical term is trolling.

 

Remember this picture from last year? No? Let me refresh your memory. It's NSW Liberal Party Senator Arthur Sinodinos facing off against Queensland National Party Senator Barnaby Joyce ahead of the state of origin.

Now, of course, Senator Joyce (who was born in NSW) is about to finish up as a Queensland senator to try his luck running in the NSW lower house seat of New England. So which team is a confused accountant to support this year?

Queensland Senator Barnaby Joyce and NSW Senator Arthur Sinodinos face off ahead of the State of Origin on 23 May 2012.

Queensland Senator Barnaby Joyce and NSW Senator Arthur Sinodinos face off ahead of the State of Origin on 23 May 2012. Photo: Andrew Meares

Let's just agree now that Joel Fitzgibbon is a freelance Labor MP, it's a bit more polite than a bomb thrower. In this video Mr Fitzgibbon debates whether or not we are in a new age of political spin with Liberal MP Josh Frydenberg in an interview with online political editor Tim Lester.

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"Politics generally" needs to deliver straighter messages, says Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon, while Joshua Frydenberg says there's no spinning the government's failed border policy.

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We'll have a bit of fun in a second but first, some of the weightier issues going around this morning:

And here's the Minister for Immigration, Brendan O'Connor, in the press gallery earlier this morning. Expect to see him face further grilling from the opposition in question time later today.

 

Immigration Minister Brendan O'Connor speaks to the media at Parliament House on Wednesday.

Immigration Minister Brendan O'Connor speaks to the media at Parliament House on Wednesday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Online political editor Tim Lester has recorded an interview with Doug Cameron, the NSW Labor senator with a Scottish brogue as thick as Canberra's fog. I'll have the video for you in a wee while but here are a couple of highlights in the meantime.

Senator Cameron defended colleague Joel Fitzgibbon's decision to go rogue yesterday morning (see 9.36am post) saying it was "a bit of colour and movement".

"You have to have a sense of humour in this place otherwise you'd go mad," Senator Cameron says.

And he doesn't have much time for the "kids" he says are running Prime Minister Julia Gillard's office.

The PM is "overspun", he says, the result of "too many kids in the PMO trying to tell her what she should say and what she should do".

"The PM is a very, very good politician. She is very talented. She should just let her natural talents take over. Forget the spin, forget people telling you what you should say. Just be yourself," Senator Cameron says.

To thine own self by true, eh?

 

Senator Doug Cameron during a Senate Economics  Committee hearing on Wednesday.

Senator Doug Cameron during a Senate Economics Committee hearing on Wednesday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

The government is just trying to kick some goals between now and election day but things keep getting in the way - asbestos, pesky states and even its own MPs.

There's only today and tomorrow to go before Parliament rises for a week long break. Then there is one more fortnight of Parliament to go before the depths of winter and the election campaign.

Leader of the house Anthony Albanese kicks a ball at Parliament House on Tuesday.

Leader of the house Anthony Albanese kicks a ball at Parliament House on Tuesday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

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  • The 4.29p.m. photo of a lonely ALP member might be the future scene of the ALP opposition com September 15th

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    Rosie
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    June 05, 2013, 4:54PM
  • Tomorrow we'll be only 100 days from Pink Slip Saturday, and some people say politics is boring.

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    SteveH.
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    June 05, 2013, 4:50PM
    • With just a very chilly Canberra winter to deal with in the interim, for some.

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      Hacka
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      June 05, 2013, 4:56PM
    • Is the Commonwealth Car Fleet being sold off? Perhaps direct action means getting cars off the road.

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      tasch2
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      June 05, 2013, 4:58PM
  • How many suspensions have the Opposition tried and lost in this Parliament? How mauch time and money does it all cost? Tony, stop the waste.

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    tasch2
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    June 05, 2013, 4:32PM
    • The Noalition feel the need to prevent the government from telling the Australian public about all the sensible, far sighted and innovative bills that they have managed to put into law so far.

      They are dead scared that the voters are going to will soon realise what is in store for them if they did decide to 'cut their own noses off to spite their faces.'

      The noalition are just proving themselves over and over to be nothing more than rabble rousers -- at least that is the way they have been behaving for the past three years.

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      EM
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      June 05, 2013, 4:52PM
    • EM - your blind faith and rose coloured glasses approach is admirable but your party are doomed. You will need to travel to the Alps to witness a bigger landslide than the one we will see on September 14th.

      Class warfare, politics of envy, gross financial mismanagement, broken promises, porous borders and a record debt.

      It's time to go.

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      Catweazle
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      June 05, 2013, 5:04PM
  • Does anyone else think Laurie Ferguson might need an emotional intervention? He is obviously sad about his Brother leaving. Is he at home late at night reading emails from dissident former labor voters. Listening to that 70's hit by Eric Carmen "All by myself.." Steph can you please arrange that Laurie gets a hug :) Someone needs to let him know that it will be OK.

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    Cwitty
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    June 05, 2013, 4:29PM
  • Can someone explain to me how Ms Credlin in her anti-animal rights garb came to be on the floor of the House anyway? Thought that was members Only (apart from the House officials).

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    Centreman
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    June 05, 2013, 4:24PM
    • I have also been wondering this

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      alex
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      June 05, 2013, 4:32PM
    • Both government and opposition are allowed to have a certain number of advisers sitting on the floor. They have designated seats.

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      Stephanie
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      June 05, 2013, 4:39PM
    • One would hope the people voted in as our members would be intelligent enough to be able to sit in the house without the need for them to have their hands held by their spin masters.

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      Dirty Den
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      June 05, 2013, 4:47PM
  • Seeing the photo of Abbot's CoS, Credlin sitting in the house makes me want to ask about the rules. I thought only those who are elected members sit in the house. Not the first time I have seen her do it.

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    Dirty Den
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    June 05, 2013, 4:24PM
  • In regards to school funding (Gonski), I think Julia has completely lost the plot. Here we are throwing money at primary and secondary schools with the idea that it will improve education. Yet, at the same time we are taking money away from the universities that are going to educate the teachers who are supposedly going to lift the education standards. A little bit of thought instead of just wasting money would be a great (education) revolution.

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    Art
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    June 05, 2013, 4:21PM
    • The universities have lost a small amount of the increase in funding that they were offered.

      In the long run the universities will benefit from these reforms because their potential students will be of higher abilities.

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      EM
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      June 05, 2013, 4:56PM
    • @EM - It is a chicken and egg scenario (except this one has an obvious solution): We need to have better educated teachers first, before we can get better educated students. So if we are going to lift basic school standards, then we should be trowing money at teacher education, not trowing money at schools in general.

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      Art
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      June 05, 2013, 5:05PM
    • I think it is also worth mentioning that as it stands today, the teaching profession's entry score to university is amongst the lowest. So the rot starts right there. If teaching becomes the job you can get if you can't do anything else, then clearly we have a problem in how we value the education of our children and the people we entrust with their future. I have no problem raising teacher salaries, but it has to be tied to skills and maybe we need to test our teachers against the material they are teaching and score them (ie. pay them) accordingly.

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      Art
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      June 05, 2013, 5:13PM
  • Gillard: got a problem: throw money at it. Problem persists: throw more money at it. Problem still there: there is no problem.

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    Pen of hrba
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    June 05, 2013, 4:03PM
    • Well said. When will they realise that not all problems require a monetary solution. Sometimes it just requries the sacking of incompetent people and consultants and the hiring of people who have good ideas and good execution of same.

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      Art
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      June 05, 2013, 4:08PM
    • Sounds like Tony's negotiation strategy with the independents after the last election.

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      tasch2
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      June 05, 2013, 4:16PM
  • If the Libs win the election, Australia will have it's second female PM - Peta Credlin! Who says Tony can't take orders from a strong woman!?

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    Muzza
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    June 05, 2013, 3:48PM
    • That will make two in a row that never won an election outright.

      How lucky can we get.

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      SteveH.
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      June 05, 2013, 4:10PM
    • Good one SteveH. Perhaps you should go back and have a look at the election result, and then educate yourself on the Parliamentary system. The voter does not elect the PM. They elect a MP. The Parliament elects the PM. Always has done. Why? A little document called the Australian Constitution. But, hey, once again why let the facts get in the way of ideological nonsense.

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      The Redman
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      June 05, 2013, 4:54PM
  • Bill Shorten: "Everyone who goes to work deserves to come home safely."

    Hmm, I assume this means all of those cable layers working on the NBN, installing high tech cables in concrete pits impregnated with asbestos. It will be 20 years before they know if they made it home safe? By then everyone will duck for cover including government which is responsible for installing them in the first place.

    I understand that several workers are already undergoing medical tests for asbestos contamination. Of course their homes will have to undergo a thorough cleansing. Anyone who has entered these homes will also require medical checks.

    It really does smack of the same incompetence as pink bats, let's hope no one dies from this latest fiasco of Labor.

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    Pen of hrba
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    June 05, 2013, 3:48PM
    • How can it be the fault of either LNP or Labor. Thats just a ridiculous comment. On the subject of 'pink batts program', you do realise an inquiry found that the pink batts program was a success. The media successfully hypnotised people into believing its a disaster and by the look of it some people are easily convinced.
      You should also realise the rate of fires (as a result of incorrect installation) was less than occurred prior to the HIP!! You should also realise mandatory energy efficiency requirements are still in place, so every new home has insulation installed by the same licensed people. More facts please, less dribble...

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      lordy
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      June 05, 2013, 4:53PM
  • Keenan is supposed to be a young star but in trying to move his suspension motion he looked like a day one back bencher.

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    Rhm
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    June 05, 2013, 3:22PM
  • That was embarrassing for the Opposition. They've moved enough SSO over the life of this parliament that the Member for Stirling should know how to do it properly. He was continually abused and heckled from the government benches which didn't help.

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    Nulla
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    June 05, 2013, 3:21PM
    • How many have they moved now? Have they won any?

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      tasch2
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      June 05, 2013, 3:36PM
  • Steph 3.11pm -
    Egyptian man: The Pyrimidi-cal Football

    Hopefully not too controversial.

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    bZark
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    June 05, 2013, 3:17PM
    • the refugee in deNile.... first attempt - lame i know I will try harder

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      Cwitty
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      June 05, 2013, 3:40PM
  • Just_A_Migrant is right. Labor is on the nose with the migrant community, our families are not being granted visas, for example applications for family sponsored skilled migrants lodged 5 years ago remain unprocessed, no more family sponsored skilled visas under Labor, 15 year wait for parents and there's more and these are ust a few examples. LNP were far more migrant FAMILY friendly. We will welcome Abbott and Morrison to Government

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    Just_Another_Migrant
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    June 05, 2013, 3:16PM
  • Oh no she didn't.. the PM just fell into the terrorist trap, requesting details now only shows up the historical incompetence. This is not what Laurie Ferguson was expecting. A photo op in Darwin Harbour with David Bradbury would have done the trick… it worked last time.
    *in the voice of Ray Warren*
    “Tony Abbot kicks the ball deep into the red zone, Gillard fields and runs it back… OOH the Pm is bundled into touch, a great field position gain for the Opposition”

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    Cwitty
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    June 05, 2013, 3:14PM
  • I am serious - she is a very effective PM and has stunning red hair!

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    Karleen
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    June 05, 2013, 2:58PM
    • Okay..but you do realise its not natural and its about the twelfth shade of red this month..handy having a hairdresser for your boyfriend, I suppose. I do agree its one of the nicest shades she has worn. It doesn't make her a good PM though I'm afraid...policy disasters and huge debt trump a nice hair colour.

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      thereisnoyouinLabor
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      June 05, 2013, 3:13PM
    • You can gladly have her - no argument from this side of the Tasman.

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      Biggles2153
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      June 05, 2013, 3:20PM
    • HUH?

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      Tim of Altona
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      June 05, 2013, 4:56PM
    • Not according to Murdock propaganda news. If the media suggests she is evil enough times, she must be evil. People cant differentiate facts from propaganda which is a pity for silly aussies.

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      nz
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      June 05, 2013, 5:19PM
  • Photo..2.42pm. Is that Kevin Rudd laughing at Bill Shorten's hypocritical comment about workplace bullying..thinking back to 24th June , 2010, perhaps.

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    thereisnoyouinLabor
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    June 05, 2013, 2:55PM
    • Hi No Ewe, It's mid-yawn I think, it's Question Time after all...

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      Ewan Huzami
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      June 05, 2013, 3:10PM
  • Truthful Julia says Abbott is 'trading in fear'. Sounds like an ALP Work Choices campaign. Are all those Union signs off the telegraph poles yet? and whilst the 'workers' are removing the WorkChoices signs can they remove the Green's signs that are still there from one election to another?

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    enough is enough
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    June 05, 2013, 2:39PM
    • New union adds start tonight I understand. But, of course, they aren't trading in fear or anything like that.

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      Puzzled
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      June 05, 2013, 2:55PM
    • Got to work tonight, be home late as I need to do extra time for the boss who has employed me for 35 years! No problem this end but a problem for the ACTU?

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      timjackelton
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      June 05, 2013, 3:21PM
  • The 'Real Julia' is your current very effective and stunning red headed Prime Minister. Good luck Julia - I think you and Labor can win the election in September!

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    Karleen
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    New Zealand
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 2:37PM
    • I thought you were serious for a minute there.

      Commenter
      thereisnoyouinLabor
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:45PM
  • BTW Tim of Tibet.
    I am NOT SJ.

    Commenter
    A country gal
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 2:37PM
  • Tim Colebath has just written a comment that most of Australia is in recession. Pity he can't ask Truthful Julia or Mr Negative Equity Swan a question about the economy in Parliament.

    Commenter
    enough is enough
    Location
    Labor party La La land
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 2:36PM
  • Is the Prime Minister playing politics with education ?

    When the Opposition did she slammed them.

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 2:25PM
    • SO passing policy is now "playing politics" to you Hacka - your world really is strange!

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:39PM
    • Passing policy is easy providing you won't agree to debate it....thanks again Oakeshott.

      Commenter
      thereisnoyouinLabor
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:44PM
    • Under the vernment's BSP program for schools, between July (F14 year) and Jun 2017 (F17) year, a total of $2.9 billion in new funding will go into Australia's 9,427 schools. A further $2.1 billion of existing, previously committed, funding will be redirected towards the Better Schools Program. No matter which way you look, its $2.9 billion in new or fresh funding, over 4 years, not $16 billion as the Prime Minister would otherwise suggest. And, of that amount, all of the fresh funding, plus much of the previously committed education funding and now re-directed education funding reflects the inflationary impact (estimated0 of the next 4 years. There is literally nothing new in schools funding here. No real dollars, but a lot of inflationary based and /or redirected dollars. This however doesn't suit either the Government's agenda, or its message. Just give the headline number but don't explain the detail, much like with Medicare Gold back in 2004.

      Commenter
      Grant
      Location
      Mitcham
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:46PM
    • What's the point in the debate if no one is going to change their position?

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:49PM
    • Macca75 - just yesterday Oakeshott and Windsor declared they would only support bipartisan bills.

      They appear to have changed their position.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:58PM
  • Does our PM always look so grim when she comes in for question time, or is it that the press only publishes pictures of her when she is frowning?

    Commenter
    AdamC
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 2:23PM
    • Better than Kevin's photo. He looks like he's trying not to sneeze or has just smelled something really awfull.

      Commenter
      Lewis from The Hills
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 3:01PM
  • 2 PM might be question time but my prediction is it won't be answer time. Has Anna Burke got her fluro bouncer vest on today?

    Commenter
    thereisnoyouinLabor
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 2:20PM
  • Does Barnaby know that the New England electorate is IN and is likely to support NSW. I bet Tony Windsor knows

    Commenter
    Cwitty
    Location
    SoO NSW
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 1:59PM
  • just to sort out a few things for you southerners.
    Ewan McKenzie is coach of the Queensland Reds (Rugby Union).
    Rob Oakshott should know that most people in Northern NSW back the Maroons (Qld) in the State of Origin. So Barnaby would not be the slightest bit concerned about backing the Qld team as most of his (proposed new) constituents will also do so

    Commenter
    billyboy
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 1:59PM
  • Only Barnaby would seek to win a seat in NSW and still be publicly rooting for QLD, honestly where does he think Tamworth is.

    Commenter
    SteveH.
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 1:53PM
    • At least Barnaby is consistent. I don't see anyone criticising Craig Emerson for representing the Queensland electorate of Rankin and supporting the Canterbury Bulldogs in the NRL.

      Commenter
      Nulla
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:00PM
    • Well... how much misgiving would result in New England if Barnaby just suddenly switched to supporting the Blues?

      Commenter
      Lewis from The Hills
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:20PM
    • Consisteny s over rated - especially when you are consistently terrible like Barnaby!

      Commenter
      Macca75
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:23PM
  • @wendyv. Dont you remember all the name calling to John Howard when he was PM? The cartoons, the scoffs, the names? Its not because she's a woman, its because she is quite simply, an arrogant, truth twisting person and the voters can see this. This is found in both woman and men as you quite well know, nothing to do with the sex!!

    Commenter
    buggsy
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 1:52PM
  • "I wonder why," Mr Combet says. "This is my 30th year working full time for the labour movement. I am still hungry to do more."

    What do you mean? Live in a mansion by the beach?

    Commenter
    Just_A_Migrant
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 1:38PM
    • The hypocrisy of the Labor Party is breathtaking, so much for being the party of the 'working class'. The best example is the Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus who thinks it beneath him to live in his seat of Isaacs and represents his constituents 20km away in the leafy suburb of Malvern.

      Commenter
      Nulla
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:55PM
    • Yep, I agree with Just_A_Migrant, and I remember Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus thought he was so important and above everyone else he used his mobile phone on an aircraft after being told to turn it off. He was met by the AFP on arrival and very quickly let of the hook! If you and I did it, well we know what would have happened, no wonder he is on the nose in his own electorate ..

      Commenter
      timjackelton
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:14PM
  • I'll let you on a secret. Here is why some of us migrants warm up to Tony Abbott: Mr. Howard!

    After disaster = Julia Gillard, someone who follows in the footstep of Mr. Howard cannot go wrong! If you think migrants will vote labor by default, think again!

    Commenter
    Just_A_Migrant
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 1:35PM
  • Education is critically important to all concerned, today, tomorrow, and each of the days following after. However, has anyone really bothereo read Budget Paper 2 which outlines the actual program costs of the Better Schools Program. If they did, they would find out that the BSP will (between F14 and F17), cost $2.9 billion in new funding, and $2.1 billion in re-directed, re-allocated or changed programming. New funding over the next 4 years is $2.9 billion, not the $16 billion that has been repeatedly talked about. In 2012, there were 9,427 schools throughout Australia, of all descriptions (according to the ABS). That’s $316,000 in new funding, on average, for each school, spread over the next 4 years. This is barely inflation, by way of forward increases, and represents a gross or “raw” average of <$80,000 per annum in new funding, per school (including any inflationary adjustment). In contrast, re-directed funding from already existing, previously maintained, or otherwise re-packaged programs, comes to a further $2.1 billion over the same period. No wonder the States are largely criticizing the BSP program. It aims at delivering Gillard the credit, whilst imposing the bulk of the future required funding risk on the States. This is really something that the journalists should really be looking at rather than simply being caught like rabbits in the glaring headlights of a newly announced headline number. Presently, the funding reforms linked to Gonski will deliver, on average, only <$80,000 per annum in new funding to schools (including the inflationary component). So, now, who’s playing the real funding politics, here?

    Commenter
    Grant
    Location
    Mitcham
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 1:34PM
  • Stephanie
    "I had these glasses before you were even able to grow a beard and do your top button up, sonny".
    Yep. Pretty much sums up modern journalism. Fairfax print subscription cancelled.

    Commenter
    Truly pathetic
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 1:22PM
    • That's a bit harsh. You could rightfully cancel it for publishing a picture of Barnaby in shorts and a t-shirt.

      Will he make it out of the Courthouse Hotel in one piece if Qld win ?

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:37PM
    • No HACKA its the fact that Fairfax and its forums have been taken over by about half a dozen deluded partisans of which you are one. Any serious policy debate is non existent. And I can pick which journalist is responsible for an article by simply reading the headline. Let alone the free reign so called "commentators get without any serious comparative analysis. So if you really want to know my reasoning there you have it. I am sick to death of the love fest and stupid commentary which is always without fact. Thankfully there are a lot more news services which outstrip what Fairfax has morphed into.

      Commenter
      Truly pathetic
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:57PM
    • Calm down, you are having a bad day. You know and everyone else knows you will continue to read and comment. Why? Because like the rest of us you enjoy it. The good news is by the end of Sept there will still be loads of people making glib comments that the govt is crap 'Cept this time you will agree :)

      Commenter
      Cwitty
      Location
      NSW SoO
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:14PM
  • Stephanie - re. the swim team. That is actually very very funny, espcially since "Steve" lectured us in the comments here yesterday about how the male controlled coalition should be ashamed of themselves for not having any women on their team. "Steve": time to eat humble pie too?

    Commenter
    Art
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 1:17PM
    • Don't hold your breath. Labor people never admit they are wrong... Its not in their DNA. They will try to spin their way out or deny, deny, deny.

      Commenter
      thereisnoyouinLabor
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:52PM
  • The Treasurer, Wayne Swan: "I think it's time a few people put a sock in it."

    Can Wayne be first cab off the ranks?

    Commenter
    Jitterry
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 12:50PM
  • I thought nowadays all debate was just done through the media. What's the point of debating bills in the house anymore? Achieves nothing

    Commenter
    Jitterry
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 12:29PM
  • Doug Cameron's comments are spot on and apply to every member of every party re stop the spin. Be honest, be yourself.

    Commenter
    A country gal
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 12:28PM
    • The ALP members HAVE been being themselves. That's just the problem. Talentless, union-bred drones who think the only way to solve an issue is to throw huge bucket=loads of public money at some union -dominated sector a la Gonski and the Teacher's Union.
      Gonski is a sham, designed to line the pockets of mediocre teachers and their union reps.If the funding stands up in NSW - highly doubtful - watch the NSW branch of the union demand 30 per cent pay rises sometime in the next 12 months.

      Commenter
      Jase
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:46PM
    • Original thought thankyou for sharing.

      Commenter
      All hail Abbott
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:56PM
    • 43 years of following the Canberra political scene and at present, it clearly shows that for those in the Federal Government, they just won't learn from their history book.
      Senator Cameron is entitled to his views and I was pleased to see another one speaking out about the performance of the PM.

      Enter into this developing picture, comes the Federal Treasurer and one shouldn't forget his colorful language via his Twitter feed - some months ago.

      Commenter
      Canberra Observer
      Location
      Brisbane
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:57PM
    • Too late Sarajane - the horse has bolted. Also, I note that Christine Milne has decided Gillard is finished and is directing all her her negativity towards Abbott. She should be careful if she wants to keep her Deputy Leader & only Greens MP in the lower house in the next government - he is only there due to Liberal preferences. I'm betting Bandt is gone. The Libs without any risk will be preferencing Labor in that seat.

      Commenter
      Tim of Altona
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:10PM
    • I rember Julia stood up ages ago and said that she was now the real Julia, so who do they want her to be now?

      Commenter
      Atomant
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:11PM
    • A country gal nice post,
      "Be honest, be yourself" that would a seismic shift for Australian politics on both sides. Doug is a great speaker, and he did say, many of Julia's advisers she listens to are kids. (sic) Hit the nail on the head didn't he, which has been pretty obvious to everyone else other than close Labor supporters for some time now, who still continue to say stuff like, "polls come and go but the only one that counts is on election night" Joel Fitzgibbon made a great point yesterday which is slowly being realised today by people in the party with no sense of humour?

      Commenter
      timjackelton
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:17PM
    • Well Jase, what's your excuse for all the others.
      I did say and every party.

      Commenter
      A country gal
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:20PM
    • Does Combet know how many asbestos pits are in our streets. He has done such a good job of condemning certain employers who used asbestos, yet not a whimper is to be heard of past government using it where the nations children play?

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:46PM
    • Pen, re asbestos, now here is a perfect example for all to be honest. Both sides, business, contractors, workers.
      Rather than play politics, this issue is bigger than Ben Hur.
      I have a 1st cousin with mesothelioma, totally healthy never smoked, rare drink. A WA resident who has no idea where she got that speck. Maybe her husbands work clothes for all anyone knows, no compo.
      nothing except misery and a full life cut short through no fault of her own.
      No doubt the deputy could shed some light.

      Commenter
      A country gal
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:36PM
  • Maybe it is time we got a new election system. One where every electorate votes at a different time over a four year period. It would keep reminding the government of the day that bad performance could result in one of their own being fired at any time. It would also get rid of the tedious election campaign vote buying rubish and actually force the politicians to constantly perform as they could otherwise find themselves out of goverment next month. I am tired of the politicians only feeling the need to be accountable for their actions every 4 years and treating the voters as mugs and cash cows for the rest of the time.

    Commenter
    Art
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 12:22PM
    • So you want a constant election campaign, cause that's what you'll get, just tailored to whichever electorate is up next?

      Commenter
      Jitterry
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:31PM
    • Maybe not Jittery... Firstly they wouldn't have the money and secondly they couldn't just make empty promisses that they had no intention of delivering (because the next electorate voting would crucify them for it). In addition, it would create a constant rotation of politicians, ensuring that the government wasn't run by a bunch of inexperienced new-bees every so often.

      Commenter
      Art
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:04PM
    • Sorry Art, but after the last three years of constant campaigning the electoral reform I think Australia needs is fixed four year terms. But it hasn't a snowflake's hope in hell of ever getting up. Funny that all the States can have fixed terms but at a federal level ....

      Commenter
      Rhm
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:29PM
    • So Rhm, what do you do when two years into a four year election cycle you discover that you are stuck with a total lemon of a government? Worse still, what if they have enough of a majority to push through any legislation they want? What do you do if they lied through their teeth during the election campaign and then when in power breaks their promisses wholesale? You are stuck for another two years before the electorate can have a voice. The damage that can be done to the country is immense. I think after all the corruption scandals and power at all cost politicians we now have, it is time that voters get some kind of ability to recall a bad government. The GG is certainly not that mechanism (given she is appointed by the government of the day). Rolling elections would solve that (and would be cheaper because the AEC could have a team roaming from electorate to electorate - rather than having to employ a massive number of people for one day)

      Commenter
      Art
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:44PM
    • Art, its called democracy, Australian style. Last time I looked there was an unpopular government in Victoria, holding office with the support of one of one of their own turned independent and who can at best be described as a bit dodgy. Is the Victorian media full of demands for an early election? Perhaps you could point me to a country in the world tha uses the system you suggest.

      Commenter
      Rhm
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:15PM
    • Yes Rhm - and if we had the system I propose, then there would be a change of government in Victoria and I would see nothing wrong with that. It would be democracy at work. There is no country in the world using my idea - but why is that an issue for you? Should I patent the concept? Historically it would have been too hard to have rolling elections, but in this day and age there is nothing to seriously stop us from doing so. My key point is that it would make the politicians respect the voters as their masters - not the other way around. It is long overdue that we had that kind of attitude change in our so-called leaders. Today the politicians can lie and screw up royally and still retire with massive benefits. There is just something wrong with that picture.

      Commenter
      Art
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:31PM
  • Education reforms just past 13 weeks before they are due to be repealed. As anyone time told Gillard that she is caretaker yet?

    Commenter
    Pen of hrba
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 12:21PM
    • Sad day. 2 out of 8 agree. Is that all we need for a majority these days. Goodbye to the independants, enjoy your pollie super fund payouts.

      Commenter
      Paul
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:00PM
  • The governments education reforms are so important, and yet we have the media chasing around a Labor backbencher.

    Shame on EVERYONE in Canberra at the moment!

    Commenter
    Stephen
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 12:20PM
    • To be expected, that we have a divergence to detract from the narrative, the reforms.
      Yet if polls are to be believed we'll have Abbott/Pyne privatising our schools.
      Only to create a further divide of haves and have nots.

      Commenter
      A country gal
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:34PM
    • To "a country gal", your comments are politically expedient. Check out the 2012 ABS schools' statistics. Why is it that between 2002 and 2010, Victoria (ALP) dropped from 1623 to 1536 (down 87). NSW (ALP) - 2002 to 2010, schools open fell from 2191 to 2176. SA (ALP) from 2002 to 2012 - 610 to 555. TAS (ALP), from 2002 to 2012 - 214 to 197. QLD (ALP), from 2002 to 2011 - 1291 to 1237. WA (ALP), from 2002 to 2007 - 775 to 769. The current 2012 figures are NSW (1269), VIC (1535), QLD (1239), SA (555), WA (765) and TAS (197). So many schools have been closed or shut down by Labor state administrations during their 2002+ terms of period in Government. Perhaps, labor can explain their own reasons for doing so?

      Commenter
      Grant
      Location
      Mitcham
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:51PM
    • For me, I cannot fathom why anyone cares whether Julia gets a territory to sign up her doomed 'Gonski' plans, or passes a bill in their furtherence .Even if the 'reforms' weren't due for the policy dustbin of an incoming Coalition government, you would have to be on the wildly optimistic side of blind faith to believe they will do anything to improve educationsl outcomes.

      Commenter
      AdamC
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:52PM
    • Grant your posts are long and I'll read later to absorb them.Ta.
      BTW I live in a school, a result of the Kennett "sell off" years.
      nonetheless I will endeavour to do some googling later.
      I didn't think it was called Gonski anymore due to the watering down.
      this still doesn't detract from privatising though.

      Commenter
      A country gal
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 3:31PM
  • Politicians are all about egos .

    Commenter
    Wendyv
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 12:19PM
  • Now they are calling for the real Julia to stand up and come forward, does that mean an imposter has been running this country for the last 4 years?

    Irrespective McTernans farewell speech for Gillard will probably go like this "Yippity Yippity" that's all folks!

    Commenter
    Garry of Melbourne
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 12:11PM
  • "...the only hot chip fought over by hungry seagulls." Love it, Stephanie! And one hapless gull in the foliage lol.

    Commenter
    Lewis from The Hills
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 11:58AM
  • And Labor will win the next election with Julia Gillard as PM and Govern without the independence

    Commenter
    Davidt.21
    Location
    Adelaide
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 11:55AM
    • Obviously you are a Harry Potter fan being that you are so deep into fantasy.

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:14PM
    • @ Pen

      Stop trying to be a comedian - you are not going to succeed.

      Commenter
      zacca
      Location
      adelaide
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:25PM
    • Certainly David.
      Should this disasterous scenario eventuate, Today's Julia would most definitely govern without "independence" (sic).
      Mr Howes would always "have (her) back".

      Commenter
      Louis Cypher
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:58PM
    • hey Louis what's with the inscrutable and inexplicable bracket around "(her)"? you creating binders for women like Abbot's crew?

      Commenter
      rod steiger
      Location
      merriwa
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:10PM
    • @zacca

      Davidt.21 started it.

      Commenter
      hasbeen
      Location
      Umina
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:22PM
  • Seriously, what's Gillard going to do in the next 102 days ? She's got to find a rabbit, a hat and a remarkably good magician.

    Maybe we might see a gay marriage bill next week, or Tim shopping for a ring. Policy's not working - no bounce out of the budget, Gonski. Even the rebranding of the NDIS is on the nose. She's lost half her team, all the good ones and the relentless attacks on the Abbott character are air swings.

    What's left - are there any rabbits ?

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 11:37AM
    • At this very moment the Education Reform Bills are about to pass and Pyne is throwing one of his irrational tantrums.

      In the next 102 days the people of Australia will be shown the difference between the progressive policies of the Government and the extreme negativities of the LNP and its policies.

      Commenter
      zacca
      Location
      adelaide
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 11:47AM
    • Hacka , you really do work hard at getting rid of the Government, hope you are being paid at a fair rate.

      If the ALP want to win this election they have to formulate some policies that appeal to small-med size business. It's middle Australia that are not convinced of their policies. Look how much press Clive Palmer got for his announcement on tax free lunches. They have to go for policies that people can grasp very quickly.

      Commenter
      Rod
      Location
      the Coast
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 11:53AM
    • @zacca - its a fantastic legislative achievement. A national education funding model supported by one state and one territory. A model that punishes states that won't compromise the future of their students education by signing up to the Gonski chimera that rips money out of tertiary education to fund the Prime Minister's vanity project.

      Commenter
      Nulla
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:00PM
    • zacca - what does that mean ?

      Does the bill force Gonski on the recalcitrant states ? Thought they had until 30 June to sign up.

      The independents yesterday said they'd only pass bipartisan legislation. Didn't take long to back flip.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:02PM
    • @Hacka
      What it means is that for the Federal Government to fund programs they must be legislated.
      For those States that sign before June 30 there will be additional funding to ensure all their children get equity in education.
      For those States that do not sign their children will get funding from a system that is broken.

      Commenter
      zacca
      Location
      adelaide
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:23PM
    • Thanks zacca. So you mean all those years that Gilllard was Education Minister she presided over a broken system ?

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:30PM
    • @ Hacka
      Yep but in the 2 years she was Education Minister she saw what a shambles it was (after 12 years of the Howard Government) and is fixing it.
      She is also has fixed the Environment,IndustrialRelations,Health, Communication etc all of which you will be able to compare with the LNP in the next 102 days should they ever reveal any more policies - after Fraudband and PPL for women of calibre I reckon they are running scared.

      Commenter
      zacca
      Location
      adelaide
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:56PM
    • Fair enough zacca - we can probably agree she was a fair Education Minister. Unfortunately the next step up has proven a step too far.

      Now Swan's in on the act. One possible small rabbit for Gillard could be the removal of this genius, although the people of Lilley seem to want their turn too.

      Commenter
      Hacka
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:17PM
    • Labor are fools,Rudd had a chance to at least compete in the election maybe even win it and now we are left with Gillard who is on a hiding to nothing,a lot of labor followers were dissapointed Rudd never had the numbers last tilt he looked like having but never eventuated....labors fate was sealed that day.

      Commenter
      Boz
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 4:38PM
  • Apparently Bishop (the younger) is now questioning Journalists :

    http://northcoastvoices.blogspot.com.au/

    Commenter
    J. Fraser
    Location
    Queensland
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 11:05AM
    • Apparently JFraser still claims Labor will trounce it in at the election and Gillard will be returned with a 10 seat majority.
      I can hear the belly laughs resonating around the country.

      Commenter
      Tim of Altona
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 11:30AM
    • Apparently some are calling for parallels between the Labor party and ROFL comedy routines pertaining to the North Korean coastline.

      Commenter
      Peppy
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 11:52AM
    • Tim

      He thinks Gillard should have the same powers of re-election as those of Putin.

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 11:52AM
  • Am amused at suggestions the PM gets a harder time because of gender. Leadership incompetence is incompetence whatever the gender. She can't lead her party or the nation.

    Commenter
    P31
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 11:02AM
    • You can see the truth of the gender matter by the way the G.G. is treated? Err, invited to be the G.G. for a second term in office?

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:02PM
  • If someone changes their vote based on what origin team a politician supports then they should be excluded from being allowed to vote

    Commenter
    Jitterry
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 10:43AM
    • Hehe. Julia supports Western Bulldogs.

      Menzies and Fraser were good Carlton men. I won't be voting for that party while their front bench is packed with ugly league supporters from north of the murray.

      Commenter
      Pete
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 12:03PM
  • Good grief! Even State of Origin football has been shanghaied into the political circus in Canberra. Is there nothing left to us that is free of their intrusions?

    Commenter
    Lewis from The Hills
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 10:43AM
  • All this state of origin stuff must be particulary galling to Truthful Julia whose only parlance with sport is to strive to become a full forward with the Western Bulldogs. Oh well, maybe she can get together again with Christine Milne and have a Tassie versus Victoria carbon free, eco friendly match of airial pingpong.

    Commenter
    enough is enough
    Location
    Labor party La La Land
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 10:41AM
  • Ahhh Kev, Oakeshott, it looks pretty clear who Barnaby's supporting.

    Oakeshott must see Barnaby as a threat. You'd reckon his electorate are a greater one.

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 10:37AM
  • Jebus, does everything today have to have a Legue reference. Majority of the country aren't actually represented in this game. And why isn't the grand final the most importnat league of the season?

    Commenter
    Jitterry
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 10:33AM
    • To the people annoyed at all the SoO references. This game represents more than half the population of the country. (ABS 2012 Census) Try not to be so insular. In NSW for example we support all the football codes. Good on the pollies for getting involved.. others should try it. As the kids say.."Don't hate.. Participate"
      Please join me in using rugby league metaphors to describe politicians

      Commenter
      Cwitty
      Location
      SoO NSW
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 11:39AM
  • How much did Parliament House cost? Can someone tell Albanese that if he does any damage the taxpayer has to pay?

    Commenter
    Pen of hrba
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 10:29AM
  • "The PM is a very, very good politician. She is very talented. She should just let her natural talents take over. Forget the spin, forget people telling you what you should say. Just be yourself," Senator Cameron says.

    I totally agree. Julia Gillard is a hard worker, was a very good minister, and even deputy. Unfortunately, she is not a "leader". She has not been able to unite her party, nor get her message across (attributes of a good leader), regardless of excuses.

    It's time the ALP "faceless men" were held accountable for their judgement in placing her out of her depth!

    Commenter
    beasleyst
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 10:22AM
    • What does Abbott offer though?

      Unted troops and bad policy.

      I agree - Gillard is a doer, more than a leader.

      BUT Abbtt is a man who tells people what they want to hear - not a leader.

      Conundrum indeed!

      Commenter
      Steve
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 10:52AM
    • Miss Gillard is the personification of the Peter principle, everyone gets promoted to a position where they are incompetent.

      Peter is a good worker he is promoted to leading hand.
      Peter is a good leading hand he is promoted to foreman.
      Peter is a good foreman he is promoted to manager.
      Peter is a lousy manager he never gets promoted again but spends his days in a position where he is incompetent.

      Commenter
      Ecka
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 10:54AM
    • This government has achieved more in 5years than the Lou Howard and Bud Costello show achieved in 11. And in a minority government having to assuage diametricallly opposed cross-benchers. If we get Abbot and his crew we will be led back to 1962 when Tony first went to school, there was no climate change and Frank Packer told ladies how to behave through the Women's Weekly. I cannot wait! I've already been there and the beaches were nearly empty!

      Commenter
      rod steiger
      Location
      merriwa
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:20PM
  • Facts, men don't like to takes order from Women. Is the the ego thing.
    PM Gillard is having a tough time . Don't see any pass PM treated that way.
    They rather have visionless Abbot .
    He is Male nothing else.

    Commenter
    Wendyv
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 10:19AM
    • What research are you basing that conclusion on? It is a bit like me saying: My wife doesn't like taking orders from me, so therefore all women don't like taking orders from men. Margaret Thatcher certainly never had an authority problem. I think it has been firmly established that Julia's problems have nothing to do with her gender. Me thinks it is rather more a problem with her massive ego and arrogant and dismissive attitude to voters. Politicians need to understand that they are our servants and not our masters. Julia most certainly does not understand that part (in my opinion).

      Commenter
      Art
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 11:28AM
    • WendyV, your comments are a bit sexist, attacking Tony Abbott for being 'male'. Also, John Howard was abused vicously when he was PM, and from recollection the insults were worse than what Gillard has been through.

      I would even go so far to say that Gillard hides behind her gender on occassion
      - not that I can totally blame her as it is smart politics. All these round rubbish personnal attacks on all pollies has got to stop.

      It has been happening for decades and has been done by all parties, including the Greens and independents.

      These personnal attacks promotes hatred and bitterness in the community and is never constructive. The only way to get rid of it from our politicians is for the media to cease publishing it. It is they, and not the politicians, who control the tone of the debates.

      Alas, idealism is best left to the youth.

      Commenter
      kp
      Location
      brisbane
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 2:21PM
    • Gillard has been hounded due to being a woman. We had the same in NZ with Helen Clark. Many men hate taking orders from a woman! Thank goodness for Womens Liberation

      Commenter
      Melinda-Lee
      Location
      New Zealand
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 3:08PM
  • Ref: 9.34am comment, "To thine own self by true, eh?"

    How'd that go for Kevin? You can't be yourself in the Labor party or you'll be ousted!

    It's more like do as they say, & not as I do

    Commenter
    Indeed
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 10:19AM
  • I think you're being a bit hard on Fitzgibbon, at least he still displays the Labor brand proudly on his website. Can't say the same for government ministers like Jason Clare where you need a ouija board and a seance to find the party affiliation.

    Commenter
    Nulla
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 10:15AM
    • No wonder so many Labor MP's are removing the ALP logo etc from their websites. How many sitting members will be brave enough to have posters of Gillard up in their electorate during the campaign? Very few, such is Gillard's toxicity with voters.

      Commenter
      Tim of Altona
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 10:48AM
    • "so many"??

      I just checked about half the MP's sites and only found a couple that didn't identify themselves as Labor members on their home page (but did on their "About" pages), with most featuring the ALP logo.

      Jason Clare's website features a red "Australian Labor" button on the homepage which links to the ALP website. Not sure how much more obvious you need it to be...

      Commenter
      anon
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 1:22PM
  • Let's hope that the federal ALP takes up playing soccer ... own goals in every match

    Commenter
    dave 51
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 10:09AM
  • So the self eating flesh virus has a common name of 'colour and movement'. Now we have the 'medical revolution' about to hit the next revised version of Macquarie Dictionary.

    Commenter
    enough is enough
    Location
    Labor party La La Land
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 10:06AM
  • When is a promotion not a promotion? When you are Brendon O’Connor. Called up from the second grade, he was thrown a hospital pass; he has knocked on, and has been smashed by the defence. Worse still his captain/coach faces a judiciary hearing on Sep 14. And after this hearing, he may become a free agent looking for a new team.

    Commenter
    Cwitty
    Location
    SoO NSW
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 10:05AM
  • Here we go again. Doug Cameron is calling for the "Real Julia".

    Commenter
    Art
    Location
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 9:54AM
    • I doubt if even Julia knows who the "real Julia" is anymore.

      Commenter
      Lewis from The Hills
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 10:36AM
    • Don't let the cat out of the bag?

      Commenter
      Pen of hrba
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 10:39AM
  • As Fitzgibbon's in a cheeky mood, perhaps he could ask the PM a question in QT. "Has a good government lost its way", perhaps.

    Surely this week is the end for the nation's most famous 457 visa holder.

    Commenter
    Hacka
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    June 05, 2013, 9:37AM
    • Hacka it won't be his last week because Gillard's judgement is so poor she will allow McTernan to 'spin' the ALP over the electoral cliff.

      Commenter
      Tim of Altona
      Location
      Date and time
      June 05, 2013, 10:01AM
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