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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
Scope[edit]
CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions[edit]
Discussions awaiting closure[edit]
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 21 (24 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 20 (22 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 16 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 14 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 9 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 7 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 6 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 February 25 (3 open)
See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.
How to use CfD[edit]
Nomination procedure[edit]
Twinkle[edit]
You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, or if you prefer not to use Twinkle, follow the manual steps below.
Manual nominations[edit]
I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types[edit]
I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
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Notifying interested projects and editors[edit]
In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2023 March 29|CfD section name}} ~~~~
or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}}
to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}}
for this.
Closing procedure[edit]
After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.
Redirecting categories[edit]
In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]
), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can "create" a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}}
to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.
In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Speedy renaming and merging
Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria[edit]
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes[edit]
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices[edit]
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names[edit]
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name[edit]
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request[edit]
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page[edit]
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions[edit]
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions[edit]
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here[edit]
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 01:28, 27 March 2023 (UTC). Currently, there are 107 open requests (. )
Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour discussion period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests[edit]
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers and Lady Jaspers to Category:Manhattan Jaspers – C2D per Manhattan Jaspers fuzzy510 (talk) 20:39, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers and Lady Jaspers athletes to Category:Manhattan Jaspers athletes
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers and Lady Jaspers athletic directors to Category:Manhattan Jaspers athletic directors
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers and Lady Jaspers basketball to Category:Manhattan Jaspers basketball
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers and Lady Jaspers coaches to Category:Manhattan Jaspers coaches
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers and Lady Jaspers navigational boxes to Category:Manhattan Jaspers navigational boxes
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers and Lady Jaspers seasons to Category:Manhattan Jaspers seasons
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers and Lady Jaspers track and field to Category:Manhattan Jaspers track and field
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers and Lady Jaspers track and field coaches to Category:Manhattan Jaspers track and field coaches
- Category:Manhattan Lady Jaspers soccer to Category:Manhattan Jaspers women's soccer
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers basketball to Category:Manhattan Jaspers men's basketball – C2D per Manhattan Jaspers men's basketball fuzzy510 (talk) 20:39, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers basketball coaches to Category:Manhattan Jaspers men's basketball coaches
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers basketball navigational boxes to Category:Manhattan Jaspers men's basketball navigational boxes
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers basketball players to Category:Manhattan Jaspers men's basketball players
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers basketball seasons to Category:Manhattan Jaspers men's basketball seasons
- Category:Manhattan Jaspers soccer to Category:Manhattan Jaspers men's soccer – C2D per Manhattan Jaspers men's soccer fuzzy510 (talk) 20:39, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Manhattan Lady Jaspers basketball to Category:Manhattan Jaspers women's basketball – C2D per Manhattan Jaspers women's basketball fuzzy510 (talk) 20:39, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Amara (genus) to Category:Amara (beetle) – C2D: See Amara (beetle) Plantdrew (talk) 19:52, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:State wide trade unions in the United States to Category:Statewide trade unions in the United States – C2A. User:Namiba 19:22, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Formula Three templates to Category:Formula Three navigational boxes – C2C: category consists of 33 navboxes. Rename for consistency with Category:Navigational boxes and Category:Open-wheel and formula racing navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 19:00, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:WAR (wrestling promotion) events to Category:WAR (wrestling promotion) shows – C2C: See Category:Professional wrestling shows. User:Namiba 16:51, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Pro Wrestling Guerrilla events to Category:Pro Wrestling Guerrilla shows – C2A: See Category:Professional wrestling shows User:Namiba 16:50, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Holidays themed professional wrestling events to Category:Holidays themed professional wrestling shows – C2C: See Category:Professional wrestling shows User:Namiba 16:49, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Solar power templates to Category:Solar power navigational boxes – C2C: needs consistency with Category:Navigational boxes. All 8 templates in the category are navboxes. —andrybak (talk) 16:31, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- (Merge) Category:Hungarian people of Slovene descent to Category:Hungarian people of Slovenian descent – C2C: convention of Category:People of Slovenian descent. Oculi (talk) 15:34, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose Hungarian only (the three below may go ahead), this category is about Slovene ethnicity instead of Slovenian descent. Marcocapelle (talk) 01:27, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Mexican people of Slovene descent to Category:Mexican people of Slovenian descent
- Category:Italian people of Slovene descent to Category:Italian people of Slovenian descent
- Category:Czech people of Slovene descent to Category:Czech people of Slovenian descent
- Category:United Mine Workers people to Category:United Mine Workers of America people – C2C. User:Namiba 13:55, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Irish culture to Category:Culture of Ireland – C2D: Also C2C. Maedc (talk) 13:28, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Catalan film actors to Category:Film actors from Catalonia – C2B, C2C: overlooked categories in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 April 18#Category:People by autonomous community in Spain, where parent (Actors from Catalonia), sibling (Stage actors from Catalonia) and children (Film actresses from Catalonia, Male film actors from Catalonia) categories were all renamed. Place Clichy (talk) 12:34, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Canada zoo templates to Category:Canada zoo navigational boxes – C2C: consistency with Category:Zoo navigational boxes and Category:Canada navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 11:14, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Merge Category:Masters Champions League to Category:Twenty20 cricket leagues and Category:Cricket leagues in the United Arab Emirates – C2F, only 1 article in the category. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Australian airport templates to Category:Australia airport navigational boxes – C2C: All eight templates in the category are navboxes, use noun instead of adjectival for consistency with Category:Country navigational boxes. —andrybak (talk) 00:03, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Writers from former countries to Category:Writers by former country – C2C: per Category:People by former country. V27t [ T • C ] 22:28, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People from Shalinsky District, Chechen Republic to Category:People from Shalinsky District, Chechnya – C2D: per Shalinsky District, Chechnya. 1857a (talk) 21:41, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Independent schools in Dundee to Category:Private schools in Dundee without leaving a redirect: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy.Gomach (talk) 21:48, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Austro-Hungarian people by occupation to Category:People from Austria-Hungary by occupation – C2C after Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_March_16#Category:Austro-Hungarian_people. If anybody else wants to nominate the sub-cats, please go ahead. – Fayenatic London 16:36, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Al Hajar Mountains to Category:Hajar Mountains – C2D: category's main article is Hajar Mountains. Tom Radulovich (talk) 16:28, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Scouting in Morocco to Category:Scouting and Guiding in Morocco – C2D per Scouting and Guiding in Morocco – Fayenatic London 14:01, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Letter-number combination disambiguation pages to Category:Letter–number combination disambiguation pages – C2A: per MOS:DASH. Populating template was renamed. MClay1 (talk) 11:16, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Ruthenian people of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth to Category:Ruthenian people from the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth – C2C within Category: people from the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth – Fayenatic London 11:14, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars to Category:Charleston Cougars – C2D/C2C: per RM. Elli (talk | contribs) 10:46, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars athletes to Category:Charleston Cougars athletes
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars men's basketball players to Category:Charleston Cougars men's basketball players
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars women's basketball players to Category:Charleston Cougars women's basketball players
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars sailors to Category:Charleston Cougars sailors
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars men's soccer players to Category:Charleston Cougars men's soccer players
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars women's soccer players to Category:Charleston Cougars women's soccer players
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars baseball to Category:Charleston Cougars baseball
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars baseball coaches to Category:Charleston Cougars baseball coaches
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars baseball players to Category:Charleston Cougars baseball players
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars baseball seasons to Category:Charleston Cougars baseball seasons
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars basketball to Category:Charleston Cougars basketball
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars men's basketball to Category:Charleston Cougars men's basketball
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars men's basketball coaches to Category:Charleston Cougars men's basketball coaches
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars men's basketball navigational boxes to Category:Charleston Cougars men's basketball navigational boxes
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars men's basketball seasons to Category:Charleston Cougars men's basketball seasons
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars women's basketball to Category:Charleston Cougars women's basketball
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars women's basketball coaches to Category:Charleston Cougars women's basketball coaches
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars women's basketball navigational boxes to Category:Charleston Cougars women's basketball navigational boxes
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars women's basketball seasons to Category:Charleston Cougars women's basketball seasons
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars coaches to Category:Charleston Cougars coaches
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars men's soccer coaches to Category:Charleston Cougars men's soccer coaches
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars softball coaches to Category:Charleston Cougars softball coaches
- Category:College of Charleston sailing to Category:Charleston Cougars sailing
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars seasons to Category:Charleston Cougars seasons
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars men's soccer seasons to Category:Charleston Cougars men's soccer seasons
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars soccer to Category:Charleston Cougars soccer
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars men's soccer to Category:Charleston Cougars men's soccer
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars women's soccer to Category:Charleston Cougars women's soccer
- Category:College of Charleston Cougars softball to Category:Charleston Cougars softball
- Category:Simon Fraser Clan basketball to Category:Simon Fraser Red Leafs basketball – Per C2C (Category:Simon Fraser Red Leafs) and C2D (Simon Fraser Red Leafs). S.A. Julio (talk) 08:52, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Simon Fraser Clan men's basketball to Category:Simon Fraser Red Leafs men's basketball
- Category:Simon Fraser Clan men's basketball players to Category:Simon Fraser Red Leafs men's basketball players
- Category:Simon Fraser Clan football coaches to Category:Simon Fraser Red Leafs football coaches
- Category:Simon Fraser Clan football players to Category:Simon Fraser Red Leafs football players
- Category:Simon Fraser Clan men's soccer players to Category:Simon Fraser Red Leafs men's soccer players
- Category:Simon Fraser Clan women's soccer players to Category:Simon Fraser Red Leafs women's soccer players
- Category:Simon Fraser Clan men's soccer to Category:Simon Fraser Red Leafs men's soccer
- Category:Simon Fraser Clan men's soccer coaches to Category:Simon Fraser Red Leafs men's soccer coaches
- Category:Members of the Sovereignty Council of Sudan to Category:Members of the Transitional Sovereignty Council – WP:C2D, main article was moved. 25stargeneral (talk) 02:29, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Novels set in India by state to Category:Novels set in India by state or union territory – C2C see Category:Films set in India by state or union territory Yinweiaiqing (talk) 23:07, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron, Boy Genius to Category:Jimmy Neutron (franchise) – C2D: Per Jimmy Neutron (franchise). ★Trekker (talk) 22:17, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Opposed requests[edit]
- Category:H & L Records albums to Category:H&L Records albums – C2D: no spaces in the main article. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 01:12, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:H & L Records artists to Category:H&L Records artists – C2D: no spaces in the main article StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 01:09, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- I have no issue with it being renamed. I created the category page. I just noticed in trade magazines and Discogs that there is a space as per Discogs' H & L Records. Perhaps the Wikipedia arrticle needs to be moved to H & L Records as opposed to H&L Records. Anyway, I'll leave it up to what you guys think best. Cheers Karl Twist (talk) 06:39, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- AllMusic uses "H&L", but the citations from Billboard, Bull Trax Records and Both Sides Now (as well as Discogs) all use "H & L", so I suggest we move the article to the spaced version per Karl Twist. – Fayenatic London 15:44, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars, Karl Twist, and Fayenatic london: would one of you be willing to start an RM to get the article renamed? Marcocapelle (talk) 19:11, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- AllMusic uses "H&L", but the citations from Billboard, Bull Trax Records and Both Sides Now (as well as Discogs) all use "H & L", so I suggest we move the article to the spaced version per Karl Twist. – Fayenatic London 15:44, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- I have no issue with it being renamed. I created the category page. I just noticed in trade magazines and Discogs that there is a space as per Discogs' H & L Records. Perhaps the Wikipedia arrticle needs to be moved to H & L Records as opposed to H&L Records. Anyway, I'll leave it up to what you guys think best. Cheers Karl Twist (talk) 06:39, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Hamilton College (New York) alumni to Category:Hamilton College alumni – C2D: This main article for Hamilton College, not Hamilton College (New York) Wozal (talk) 22:31, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per Hamilton College (disambiguation), and Category:Hamilton College (New York). Oculi (talk) 23:46, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People under the Almoravid dynasty to Category:People from the Almoravid dynasty – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 17:02, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose the above 4. Almoravid dynasty is not a country, it is a ruling family. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Then Category:People under the Almoravid dynasty needs to be updated as 3/4 categories are for countries. Gonnym (talk) 11:55, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- It is a category about a country but not named after a country. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:26, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Then Category:People under the Almoravid dynasty needs to be updated as 3/4 categories are for countries. Gonnym (talk) 11:55, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: by accident the three subcategories have been processed despite being opposed, could you revert that? Marcocapelle (talk) 09:40, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, would you mind making a list what should be processed? Ymblanter (talk) 09:54, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: below is renaming them back. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:12, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, would you mind making a list what should be processed? Ymblanter (talk) 09:54, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose the above 4. Almoravid dynasty is not a country, it is a ruling family. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:German Bohemian people to Category:Sudeten Germans – C2D, German Bohemian redirects to Sudeten Germans. Brandmeistertalk 12:32, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose Brandmeister, there are currently categories for Category:German Bohemian people from Bohemia, Category:Moravian-German people from Moravia and Category:People from Austrian Silesia, together with Category:Sudeten German people for people from the Czech lands, born between 28 October 1918 and 8 May 1945. The proposed change is inconsistent with the current structure. TSventon (talk) 14:16, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Flanders Campaign 1793–94 to Category:Flanders campaign – C2D: per Flanders campaign. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think this is valid as a Speedy because of ambiguity with the various topics for Battle of Flanders. But it could be speedily renamed to Category:Flanders campaign (1792–1795) under C2B, following MOS:DATERANGE, and extending the range to match the dates stated in the article. – Fayenatic London 15:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, that will do. The too narrow dating was my biggest concern. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:03, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose: The main article Flanders campaign was renamed yesterday to Low Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition, after Marcocapelle and I reached an agreement on this title at Talk:Low Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition#Name and periodisation (I had already written down several observations and objections in June 2022, but nobody responded to it until now). I agree with WP:C2D as an argument for speedy renaming the cat, but that means the resulting new name will now be Category:Low Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition. Because this significantly changes and complicates the nature of the discussion, and Marcocapelle and I have already been discussing reorganising the category tree on the talk page (where I already wrote down a lot of proposals), I think it's best to stop this speedy nom and make it a regular CfR to discuss this properly. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 10:08, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think this is valid as a Speedy because of ambiguity with the various topics for Battle of Flanders. But it could be speedily renamed to Category:Flanders campaign (1792–1795) under C2B, following MOS:DATERANGE, and extending the range to match the dates stated in the article. – Fayenatic London 15:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion[edit]
- Category:Shrek video games to Category:Shrek (franchise) video games – C2C: Per Category:Shrek (franchise). ★Trekker (talk) 22:13, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Shrek films to Category:Shrek (franchise) films – C2C: Per Category:Shrek (franchise). ★Trekker (talk) 22:12, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Shrek mass media to Category:Shrek (franchise) mass media – C2C: Per parent category. ★Trekker (talk) 22:11, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Shrek character redirects to lists to Category:Shrek (franchise) characters redirects to lists – C2A: Per category Category:Shrek (franchise). ★Trekker (talk) 22:10, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Shrek characters to Category:Shrek (franchise) characters – C2C: Per parent category. ★Trekker (talk) 22:09, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: I don't know how established this practice is at CfD(S) (so I'm not moving it to opposed), but I just find it absurd to force disambiguators into category names when there's nothing ambiguous about them. Only the eponymous parent cat should need to follow the article title in that regard. --Paul_012 (talk) 23:22, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- For a lot of reasons having a consistent name throughout an entire tree makes much more sense. Gonnym (talk) 12:02, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, consistency helps a lot with automatic parenting via templates. But in this case I suggest putting these on hold, and making an RM nomination to rename the first film article to Shrek (film) and the franchise to "Shrek". – Fayenatic London 16:44, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- This set is on hold pending Talk:Shrek#Requested_move_27_March_2023. – Fayenatic London 20:47, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- For a lot of reasons having a consistent name throughout an entire tree makes much more sense. Gonnym (talk) 12:02, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: I don't know how established this practice is at CfD(S) (so I'm not moving it to opposed), but I just find it absurd to force disambiguators into category names when there's nothing ambiguous about them. Only the eponymous parent cat should need to follow the article title in that regard. --Paul_012 (talk) 23:22, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:The Irish Fusiliers of Canada (The Vancouver Regiment) officers to Category:Irish Fusiliers of Canada (The Vancouver Regiment) officers – C2B: WP:THE Labattblueboy (talk) 23:50, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hold pending RM at Talk:Irish Fusiliers of Canada (The Vancouver Regiment) to also remove the middle "The". – Fayenatic London 13:42, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion[edit]
- Category:Montreal Impact U23 players to Category:CF Montréal U23 players – C2D: Parent article is CF Montréal U23. RedPatch (talk) 13:31, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- The article was only recently renamed and without discussion. Oppose speedy until a reliable source is provided about the recent name change. Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 04:39, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- There's not going to be a reliable source, both because it's not a recent name change, and because the U23 club didn't independently change its name. Montreal Impact U23's parent club was Montreal Impact, which was rebranded two years ago as CF Montréal. The recent rename was just bringing the U23 club page into line with the proper branding. fuzzy510 (talk) 09:32, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- I propose to override the objection under WP:IAR as this nomination would plainly succeed if it went to a full CFD. If there had been no separate article for the U23 team, then this rename would have gone ahead under C2D based on the main team article. – Fayenatic London 21:53, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: do you agree that this is an exceptional case so that WP:IAR may be applied? Marcocapelle (talk) 09:36, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- I propose to override the objection under WP:IAR as this nomination would plainly succeed if it went to a full CFD. If there had been no separate article for the U23 team, then this rename would have gone ahead under C2D based on the main team article. – Fayenatic London 21:53, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- There's not going to be a reliable source, both because it's not a recent name change, and because the U23 club didn't independently change its name. Montreal Impact U23's parent club was Montreal Impact, which was rebranded two years ago as CF Montréal. The recent rename was just bringing the U23 club page into line with the proper branding. fuzzy510 (talk) 09:32, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- The article was only recently renamed and without discussion. Oppose speedy until a reliable source is provided about the recent name change. Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 04:39, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:07, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Fauna of the Amazon to Category:Fauna of the Amazon basin – C2C per parent and sub-cats. I am not sure whether the Flora sibling should follow suit. @Couiros22 and Gonnym: I nominated this one following Biota which was just renamed, but I see you are still discussing the Birds subcat below. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't know myself what to do with this as the category lead says it's for both the river and the basin and I'm not sure they 100% overlap. But whatever is done for this should also be for the Flora. --Gonnym (talk) 21:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think they always match, because flora categories follow World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions. But Wikipedia:WikiProject_Plants/World_Geographical_Scheme_for_Recording_Plant_Distributions#Category:Flora_of_South_America does not have an Amazon-based region. Shall we take this hierarchy to a full CFD, from Biota down? – Fayenatic London 13:33, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- the category should be renamed Fauna of the Amazon rainforest... the Amazon basin does not encompass all of the Amazon rainforest... therefore some species might be situated inside the Amazon rainforest but outside the Amazon basin --Couiros22 (talk) 16:29, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't know myself what to do with this as the category lead says it's for both the river and the basin and I'm not sure they 100% overlap. But whatever is done for this should also be for the Flora. --Gonnym (talk) 21:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Birds of the Amazon Basin to Category:Birds of Amazonia – more pertinent category ; some eastern parts of the Amazon rainforest (Amazonia) are located outside of the Amazon Basin Couiros22 (talk) 20:43, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- What is Amazonia? Do you mean Amazon rainforest? Gonnym (talk) 12:18, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- At the very least the title should be with lowercase "basin" per Amazon basin. Gonnym (talk) 12:27, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- yes, the Amazon rainforest (synonym=Amazonia cf. article). alternatively we could just rename it as "Birds of the Amazon rainforest" --Couiros22 (talk) 18:07, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- At the very least the title should be with lowercase "basin" per Amazon basin. Gonnym (talk) 12:27, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- What is Amazonia? Do you mean Amazon rainforest? Gonnym (talk) 12:18, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
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