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note re: native cultures map[edit]

Just to note: several of the native cultural groups on the "at time of contact" map (particularly in the south coast area) use the Spanish reference names and not the native names for those cultures. These are generally a shortened version of the name of the local mission with -eno added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8801:8100:1950:D845:2713:9067:2D2A (talk) 17:00, 11 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Port of Stockton is not the most inland port on the west coast[edit]

The sentence about the Port of Stockton being the most inland needs to be removed. That would be the Port of Lewiston. [1] Oregonpaul (talk) 14:54, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What the heck. Lol. That source doesn't even claim it; it says that it's the easternmost on the West Coast, which is actually even more preposterous. Stockton is west of Los Angeles!!
The sentence adds nothing without being true, so I just deleted it. What a load of poppycock. Red Slash 22:19, 31 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

References

Too Many Mentions of New York and Manhattan in the California Article[edit]

There are far too many unnecessary comparisons to New York (8) and Manhattan (3) in this article about California, including 3 such references just in the introductory paragraph. It is enough to state that Los Angeles is the second-most populous city in the nation without mentioning New York, but even if that comparison is justified, there is simply no need to turn discussion of San Francisco's population density toward Manhattan and New York City's other boroughs, as has been done here. Those places are not necessary references to provide basic information like Los Angeles' population or San Francisco's density. It is not a natural point of view to insert New York into this article this much, and those references should be reduced as much as possible. Articles on the other states are not constantly comparing local cities and metropolitan areas with New York and/or Manhattan, and this one should not either.

2603:8001:8F00:79D2:3131:B877:7518:A4F8 (talk) 07:26, 30 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 May 2022[edit]

Can you replace with this sentence? I rephrased it. "Over time, many droughts and wildfires have been increasing in frequency and severity throughout California, which is becoming less seasonal and more year-round and further straining California's water security system and nearly 95% of this region in this state have been experiencing drought conditions." Thank you! 2601:205:C002:D1E0:51A9:AB3F:2ECB:67D9 (talk) 03:04, 9 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Here it is-

Original: "Over time, droughts and wildfires have been increasing in frequency and severity, becoming less seasonal and more year-round, further straining California's water security."


Rephrased: "Over time, many droughts and wildfires have been increasing in frequency and severity throughout California, which is becoming less seasonal and more year-round and further straining California's water security system and nearly 95% of this region in this state have been experiencing drought conditions."

Hope that it helps. --2601:205:C002:D1E0:D11:AA22:BE7:46C1 (talk) 05:54, 9 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Not done. The lead section in an article needs to have as few references cited within it as possible, per Wikipedia's manual of style. Any content that needs a citation should generally be detailed in the body, not the lead paragraph. Since you added, "nearly 95% of this region in this state have been experiencing drought conditions", I would want to see a citation to a reliable source supporting this information. This information is better detailed in the appropriate section within the body of the article, not here. I also assume that you have a reliable source supporting this information? ;-)
You also added the word "many" to your modification. Why? Per Wikipedia's neutral point of view, we try to keep content aimed towards information that is verifiable and avoid any bias. Your modification is very small and certainly doesn't add any bias, but even adjectives such as this should be avoided. It's not up to us to determine if the wildfires and droughts are "numerous" - just state it like it is. The current sentence doesn't need to change. You also added "throughout California" as well. That's redundant, but I don't want to come off as picky... lol ;-).
The main issue is with my first point, which is why I am not modifying the lead paragraph as you suggested. If you have any questions, let me know! Please feel free to add another subsequent edit request regarding the body of the article if the "95% information" is missing, and if you have references to reliable sources supporting this information. I'll be happy to take a look. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:18, 9 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Here is the source of it: Link

It is already from the article and it will try to make the article look better, hope that it helps. --2601:205:C002:D1E0:D11:AA22:BE7:46C1 (talk) 06:27, 9 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

At least some of the sentence make sense including the citation and the replacement. 2601:205:C002:D1E0:80A0:CF1:CF8A:3ED9 (talk) 01:55, 10 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Looked at the source: it cites the US Drought Montior, which constantly updates it data. I mean, we're at 100% this week. To outright put in the number 95% is not a great idea because it's inaccurate.  Ganbaruby! (talk) 04:01, 10 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Adding new section[edit]

Can somebody add literature to this article with new section tiled ligature? Can you research them and added what books are published? Literature is part of culture and helps people understand California and its origins. Don't forget to add links to this. --2601:205:C002:D1E0:A9C3:48F:EC09:1395 (talk) 07:09, 9 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2022[edit]

Can you add this information on California 1900- present? Here you go:

"One of the first confirmed COVID-19 cases in the United States that occurred in California was first of which was confirmed on January 26, 2020.[1][2][3] Meaning, all of the early confirmed cases were persons who had recently travelled to China in Asia, as testing was restricted to this group. On this January 29, 2020, as disease containment protocols were still being developed, the U.S. Department of State evacuated 195 persons from Wuhan, China aboard a chartered flight to March Air Reserve Base in Riverside County, and in this process, it may have granted and conferred to escalated within the land and the US at cosmic.[4][5] On February 5, 2020, the U.S. evacuated 345 more citizens from Hubei Province to two military bases in California, Travis Air Force Base in Solano County and Marine Corps Air Station Miramar, San Diego, where they were quarantined for 14 days.[4][6] A state of emergency was largely declared in this state of the nation on March 4, 2020, and as of February 24, 2021 remains in effect. A mandatory statewide stay-at-home order was issued on March 19, 2020 due to increase, which was ended on January 25, 2021, allowing citizens to return to normal life.[7] On April 6, 2021, the state announced plans to fully reopen the economy by June 15, 2021.[8]" 76.20.110.116 (talk) 23:26, 25 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can anyone respond to my edit request? It is been for days already. 76.20.110.116 (talk) 06:24, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

References

  1. ^ "United States Coronavirus: 28,924,762 Cases and 515,846 Deaths - Worldometer". www.worldometers.info. Retrieved 2021-02-24.
  2. ^ Wheeler, Ian (February 4, 2020). "Orange County coronavirus patient released, in good condition, health officials say". Orange County Register. Archived from the original on February 5, 2020. Retrieved February 21, 2020.
  3. ^ "Ninth case of fast-moving coronavirus confirmed in U.S." Reuters. February 2, 2020. Archived from the original on February 3, 2020. Retrieved February 3, 2020.
  4. ^ a b Beech, Eric; Gorman, Steve (February 6, 2020). "Two more U.S. evacuation planes leave coronavirus epicenter Wuhan". Reuters. Archived from the original on February 16, 2020. Retrieved February 15, 2020.
  5. ^ Diamond, Dan. "U.S. handling of American evacuees from Wuhan increased coronavirus risks, watchdog finds". Washington Post. ISSN 0190-8286. Retrieved 2021-02-25.
  6. ^ "Hundreds of Americans Were Evacuated From the Coronavirus Epicenter. Now Comes the Wait". The New York Times. February 5, 2020. Archived from the original on February 6, 2020.
  7. ^ "California Governor Gavin Newsom lifts virus stay-at-home orders". CBS News. 2021-01-26. Archived from the original on January 26, 2021. Retrieved 2021-02-24.
  8. ^ Money, Luke; Luna, Taryn. "California aims to fully reopen its economy June 15". Retrieved 6 April 2021.
In progress: An editor is implementing the requested edit. Never mind, I can't do it because I am terrible at sourcing with the source editor and the visual editor is just too darn laggy. interstatefive  (talk) - just another roadgeek 22:51, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
information Note: Worldometer as a source is disallowed on COVID-related topics, see WP:RSP. ;; Maddy ♥︎(they/she)♥︎ :: talk  09:02, 28 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I borrowed some of them from this article. 76.20.110.116 (talk) 19:58, 28 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
 Partly done: I kept everything except the reference to worldometer, as it is unreliable. interstatefive  (talk) - just another roadgeek 19:19, 1 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, thank you, editor! 76.20.110.116 (talk) 19:57, 2 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

"California borders Oregon to the north..." is a false statement, is it not? Can we get a consensus on this?[edit]

Ok, yesterday I made an edit to this page which changed "borders" to "is bordered by" in the second sentence in the opening paragraph, but this edit was reverted on the grounds that it was unnecessary.

The reason I made that edit is because the statement appeared to be plainly false to me. "California borders Oregon to the north, Nevada and Arizona to the east, the Mexican state of Baja California to the south" implies that Oregon is to the south of California, Nevada and Arizona are to the west, and Baja California is to the north, which is of course the opposite of what is true. After the edit was reverted, I looked up the statements in Google and was surprised to find many more pages that said "California borders Oregon to the north" rather than ""California borders Oregon to the south". As such, I assumed that I was wrong and had a misunderstanding of English.

Since then, however, I've taken a closer look and it appears that all of the pages stating "California borders Oregon to the north" are just copies of this article. Furthermore, I have spoken to several other English speakers and they all seem to agree with me that the factually correct statement is "California borders Oregon to the south".

I am thus again of the opinion that my earlier edit was correct, however I do not intend to start an edit war. Thus, I am asking for a consensus that either "borders" should be changed to "borders by" or the cardinal directions in that second sentence should be reversed. Spongeaang (talk) 10:37, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Britannica would support the edit, citation added at end of the sentence in question. Ferventassumption (talk) 11:21, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You added this source to support your edit, but nowhere in the source does it say "is bordered by". Magnolia677 (talk) 11:31, 20 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion[edit]

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 16:07, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Trimmed out of control lead[edit]

Does anyone object to these changes? The lead was getting out of control. KlayCax (talk) 01:37, 2 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]