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Training on using the Wiki Applications

I've just re-donated to support Wikipedia for another year. But, I think I only scratch the surface of using it and the other related Wiki offerings. How can I get training (e.g. videos) on how to use all of the offerings? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.132.217.186 (talk) 14:38, 22 September 2022‎

Translation of the Wikimedia Foundation wiki and other sites

Hello, could you please let me know how to go about translating the sidebar on the Wikimedia Governance wiki?[1] I can't find neither any equivalent to {{edit request}} there nor any discussion site except for this one. Could you also please let me know where to translate the official site and similar sites? Thank you in advance. --Eleassar ^{my talk} 16:48, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

I asked the same question a while ago and was told it’s done on translatewiki.net and we’ll need to set up a separate account [ETA: I don’t know how to translate the official site or similar sites.] — Al12si (talk) 02:35, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Al12si. I have been very active on translatewiki.net and afaik these messages are not available there. For example, I can't find the message for "Official website" or for "Questions for Wikimedia?" Please let me know if I am mistaken (for example, by providing a link). --TadejM ^{my talk} 02:40, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

@GVarnum-WMF: --Nintendofan885 (talk) 18:56, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Status of mover

I have seen that on various wikipedias there is the possibility of assigning the status of mover to some users . If we wanted it, would it be possible to obtain this also for the Lombard-language Wiktionary (lmo.wiktionary.org)? Gat lombard (talk) 14:47, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

@Gat lombard it's possible, what is the issue that lmowikt is trying to solve? Note, all autoconfirmed users on lmowikt may already move an entry. Projects with custom groups often have a special workflow about redirects that they need to manage. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:50, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

@Xaosflux It was a question in order to understand if it is possible to assign the status of mover to a user who is able to do this but does not yet have the skills to be an administrator. It is true that autoconfirmed users can move entries, but they cannot do so by overwriting and without leaving a redirect.--Gat lombard (talk) 08:39, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

@Xaosflux In any case how would it be possible since currently the "mover" group does not exist in https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:UtentiAtivi --Gat lombard (talk) 08:51, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

@Gat lombard based on wikt:lmo:Special:Statìstegh, a request for a special group is likely to be declined as that community is too small. It is technically possible. First lmowikt would need to have a community discussion to establish a consensus that it is needed, and define how that project will manage it; then request a configuration customization request such as this one: phab:T212662. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:51, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

@Xaosflux We are discussing the matter here.

Our Wiktionary has no bureaucrats. If approved, who would assign the status of mover? Would he/she be a meta steward as well as for sysops?--Gat lombard (talk) 20:34, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

@Gat lombard that would be up to the community, normally groups like that are managed by admins -- but as lmowikt also has only 1 (temporary) admin this also speaks to the "too small" situation. — xaosflux ^Talk 20:48, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

wikimedia should not block logged in users even if they use blocked ip

in https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/DUHTE6FSKQB6PX4QD5GWX3OHXFYUHPT5/ they say:

VPN IP addresses, which are used for obvious privacy reasons, are blocked in sight by any administrators pursuant to policy against open proxies.

i confirm it... i also used vpn this year and as i remember, i have seen this problem. (i wanted to make some bug report, left it for later, and forgot, and now remembered).

i believe this behavor of wikimedia sites is wrong, a bug. because: the reason for blocking ip is to prevent vandalism. if a user is logged in, it can be blocked by username, additional block by ip is unnecessary, excessive, and harmful, because prevents users who use alien ip for other reasons, not to vandalise. QDinar (talk) 13:37, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

@Qdinar when project administrators place blocks on IP addresses they already have the option to block or not block logged in users from those addresses. For example see here: block A, block B; in block A - logged in users are not also blocked. Blocking is generally used to prevent "disruption", not necessarily only "vandalism"; and there are many ways someone can be disruptive. — xaosflux ^Talk 21:21, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

how blocking ip for logged in user may be useful? QDinar (talk) 12:38, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

@Qdinar for example if you are being disruptive, I may block you, and your underlying IP address - so that you can't just change accounts and continue to be disruptive. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:44, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

i think it is very unlikely that "i" cannot change my ip address. low probability. but when somebody uses vpn and would like to edit something, it is of much higher probability. so, this makes much harm and little good. QDinar (talk) 12:17, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

@Qdinar not sure what else you want here? Admins can already choose to block or not block logged in users from IP addresses that they block and each project makes their own blocking policies, for example: w:tt:Википедия:Блоклау; additionally projects may choose to exempt accounts from IP blocks that otherwise affect others. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:07, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

I think QDinar was especially talking about VPN blocks and it's a valid concern in my opinion. VPN blocks are often hard-blocks and global, which means they affect logged in users in all wikis. I use a VPN myself and the blocks are one reason why I edit less than I used to. (I had to turn it off to post this comment.) VPNs are becoming more popular and for new users this could be a barrier that stops them from even beginning to edit. kyykaarme (talk) 19:14, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Please note, any project that disagrees with a global block may override it. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:47, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

The Unblock Ticket Request System is broken

The Unblock Ticket Request System claims that it's being spammed with requests but this incorrect as I've not been able to send any requests and no one else is on my IP address . B4531826 (talk) 17:17, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

If you think there is a bug with the UTRS system you can report it here. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:55, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Upcoming vote on the revised Enforcement Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct

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Hello all,

In mid-January 2023, the Enforcement Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct will undergo a second community-wide ratification vote. This follows the March 2022 vote, which resulted in a majority of voters supporting the Enforcement Guidelines. During the vote, participants helped highlight important community concerns. The Board’s Community Affairs Committee requested that these areas of concern be reviewed.

The volunteer-led Revisions Committee worked hard reviewing community input and making changes. They updated areas of concern, such as training and affirmation requirements, privacy and transparency in the process, and readability and translatability of the document itself.

The revised Enforcement Guidelines can be viewed here, and a comparison of changes can be found here.

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Beginning January 17, 2023, voting will be open. This page on Meta-wiki outlines information on how to vote using SecurePoll.

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Votes will be scrutinized by an independent group of volunteers, and the results will be published on Wikimedia-l, the Movement Strategy Forum, Diff and on Meta-wiki. Voters will again be able to vote and share concerns they have about the guidelines. The Board of Trustees will look at the levels of support and concerns raised as they look at how the Enforcement Guidelines should be ratified or developed further.

On behalf of the UCoC Project Team,

JPBeland-WMF (talk) 05:13, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

This maybe worth a look....

• https://old.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/108805l/sent_ceaseanddesist_letter_from_american_law_firm/
• https://old.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/1087x7z/new_brunswick_njsouth_dakota_legal_threats_made/

These may be of interest to WMF users. Osken2028w (talk) 13:08, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Voting now open on the revised Enforcement Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct

Hello all,

The voting period for the revised Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines is now open! Voting will be open for two weeks and will close at 23:59 UTC on January 31, 2023. Please visit the voter information page on Meta-wiki for voter eligibility information and details on how to vote.

For more details on the Enforcement Guidelines and the voting process, see our previous message.

On behalf of the UCoC Project Team,

JPBeland-WMF (talk) 00:16, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

The voting period for the revised Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines is still open. If you would like to learn more about them, there is a Diff blog post you can read.

On behalf of the UCoC Project Team,

JPBeland-WMF (talk) 20:49, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Help with old dumps

Hi! I have been working a research project that involves me downloading the latest dump every month from several projects — enwiktionary, eswiktionary, frwiktionary, dewiktionary, enwikiquote, eswikiquote, frwikiquote, dewikiquote, enwikibooks, eswikibooks, frwikibooks, and dewikibooks. I have been working on this for about two years, but I have been busy for a few months and didn’t have the time to download them immediately, but I thought that I could just download them later.

Today, I was finally ready to download them, when I noticed that the dumps from June and July are missing. I have looked all around the internet, but I have not found a solution.

Can any of you help? The last available username (talk) 19:42, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

@The last available username try archive.org? For example https://web.archive.org/web/20220801023527/https://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiktionary/20220720/ ? — xaosflux ^Talk 12:16, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

@Xaosflux Thanks very much! This helps me a lot and is even on the day I was looking for, but this unfortunately doesn't work for the other projects. The last available username (talk) 15:52, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

@The last available username try the mirror at your.org, just change the name in the url, example: https://dumps.wikimedia.your.org/frwikibooks — xaosflux ^Talk 16:11, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

@Xaosflux Thanks so much!!! You saved me! How do you find that and what is your.org? The last available username (talk) 16:15, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

@The last available username there is a list of some known mirrors at Mirroring Wikimedia project XML dumps. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:58, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

talk:Deletionism and other related talk pages

Most of the discussion on these talk pages seem to just be FORUMy comments and complaints and nothing about improving the page (besides people who think they're on Wikipedia). Virtually nothing productive has happened on these talk pages, and I don't see much maintenance or moderation on these pages. Should we do something about the junk on these talk pages? 137a (talk) 15:23, 24 January 2023 (UTC)