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O'Malley's March was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 21 December 2015 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Martin O'Malley. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
Abortion[edit]
Why is there no mention of this guy's position on Abortion? The word abortion is not in the entire document or on the talk page (until I put it there). I have verified that he is pro-abortion while at the same time claiming to be Roman Catholic. --24.177.0.156 (talk) 19:14, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- So there is a conspiracy? or it could be that no one has added that. What is your source? Jadeslair (talk) 19:21, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Minor Adjustment[edit]
Really people, Wiki is not supposed to be used for campaigning.
Although much of both this article and Ehrich's seems to be influenced heavily by the current election (from both sides), I only changed one thing that was just ridiculous:
The line at the end (using an opinion column as the source) read something like "His ads contained downright lies" I changed to be less bias by simply saying he has "come under criticism" for "negative campaign ads."
If I had time or the knowledge, I would redo both O'Malley's and Ehrlich's completely...or better yet just delete them both because every time I look at them they are slanted in a new direction. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. Look at the ".org" on the URL. I say again, this is not supposed to be a political website!!!
Illegal vs. undocumented immigrants[edit]
I have reverted the article to read "undocumented immigrants" but now am wondering what the term should be. It appears that both versions are politically loaded, the one toward the anti-, the other toward the pro-immigration stance. Any thoughts? HGilbert (talk) 19:41, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- I've always thought the correct term was undocumented immigrant. I mean, this is an encyclopedia. Teammm talk
email 20:11, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
I changed this back. The relevant articles on Wikipedia are titled Illegal immigration and Illegal immigration to the United States, and those titles have been repeatedly supported by consensus. Hiding this behind a redirect, and the redirect behind a piped link, is whitewashing the matter with a euphemism. It definitely is a euphemism in this case - if the state of Maryland offers a person reduced tuition because of their specific application for reduced tuition, they are aware of that person and you cannot say they are "undocumented". Meanwhile, they are in the country illegally, regardless of local toleration. 209.211.131.181 (talk) 17:09, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
RFC about whether presidential candidacy belongs in lead paragraph[edit]
Talk:Rick_Perry#RFC_about_whether_his_presidential_candidacy_should_be_mentioned_in_the_lead_paragraphAnythingyouwant (talk) 15:44, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Needs a picture at the top[edit]
Going into the campaign to run for president, readers would like to see his portrait-picture at the top. Can someone put one in? The campaign team should be happy to put one in themselves, or contact a WP editor to assist. -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 02:19, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yes they would but the only ones available are from a while ago https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Martin_O%27Malley Jadeslair (talk) 02:40, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
O'Malley's March article has been merged into here[edit]
I have imported the material from the soon-to-be-deleted O'Malley's March, trimming some of the detail and replacing Facebook citations with citation-needed tags. The new material has gone into the "Personal life" section, and I removed a mention that was in "In other media". I kept some of the biographical stuff about other band members—though I don't really think that belongs in a section about O'Malley's personal life—in case we want to promote the subsection into a separate section elsewhere. Peter Chastain [¡habla!] 13:14, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
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Sources for infobox religion?[edit]
I am going through the entire list of all forty candidates for US President in 2016 (many now withdrawn) and trying to make sure that the religion entry in the infobox of each page meets Wikipedia's requirements.
Here are the requirements for listing a religion in the infobox (religion in the body of the article has different rules):
- Per Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 126#RfC: Religion in biographical infoboxes: "the 'religion=' parameter and the associated 'denomination=' parameter should be removed from all pages that use Template:Infobox person. Inclusion is permitted in individual articles' infoboxes as a custom parameter only if directly tied to the person's notability. Inclusion is permitted in derived, more specific infoboxes that genuinely need it for all cases, such as one for religious leaders." Please note that if nobody has bothered to mention religion in the body of the article, that is strong evidence that the subject's beliefs are not relevant to their public life or notability.
- Per WP:BLPCAT: "Categories regarding religious beliefs (or lack of such) should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief or orientation in question, and the subject's beliefs are relevant to their public life or notability, according to reliable published sources" ... "These principles apply equally to lists, navigation templates, and Infobox statements". The "relevant to their public life or notability" clause should be interpreted as follows: Would this individual be notable for his/her religion if he/she were not notable for running for US president? Are we talking about someone who is notable for being religious, of someone who is notable who also happens to be religious?
- Per WP:CAT/R: "Categories regarding religious beliefs or lack of such beliefs of a living person should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief in question (see WP:BLPCAT), either through direct speech or through actions like serving in an official clerical position for the religion." In other words, if someone running for US president has never publicly stated on the record that they belong to a religion, we don't take the word of even reliable sources on what their religion is.
- Per WP:LOCALCON, a local consensus on an article talk page can not override the overwhelming (75% to 25%) consensus at Template talk:Infobox#RfC: Religion in infoboxes that nonreligions cannot be listed in the religion entry of any infobox. That RfC has a handy list of religions and nonreligions to avoid the inevitable arguments about what is and what is not a religion. Everyone who !voted on the RfC saw that list and had ample opportunity to dispute it if they disagreed with it.
The forty candidates are:
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My goal is to determine whether Wikipedia's requirements are met for the above forty pages, and to insure that we have citations to reliable sources that meet the requirements.
You are encouraged to look at and comment on the other pages, not just this one.
Please provide any citations that you believe establish a direct tie to the person's notability, self-identification in the person's own words, etc. Merely posting an opinion is not particularly helpful unless you have sources to back up your claims. I would ask everyone to please avoid responding to any comment that doesn't discuss a source or one of the requirements listed above. You can. of course, discuss anything you want in a separate section, but right now we are focusing on finding and verifying sources that meet Wikipedia's requirements. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:22, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Removing religion from infobox[edit]
Previously, I asked for citations showing that this page meets Wikipedia's requirements for listing religion in the infobox and in the list of categories. I also did my own search. There do not appear to be sources establishing compliance with the rules for inclusion, so I have removed the religion entry and categories. It appears that this page does not meet Wikipedia's requirements, so I am removing religion from the infobox and categories. Editors are encouraged to add properly sourced religion information to the body of the article, subject to WP:V and WP:WEIGHT.
As a reminder Here are the requirements for listing a religion in the infobox and categories (religion in the body of the article has different rules):
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Note: this page has not been singled out. I asked for citations on all forty candidates (some now withdrawn) for the 2016 US presidential election. --Guy Macon (talk) 09:12, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
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