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This page lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.

This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 78 discussions have been relisted.

July 4, 2022[edit]

  • (Discuss) – Air multiplier → Bladeless fan – My understanding is that "Air multiplier" is a trademarked marketing term for a particular brand's products. Google Advanced Search shows "Bladeless fan" being about eight times more common, and Google Ngram confirms that it is also more common in book sources. Google Scholar also confirms that it is a more common term in scholarly works. Although this type of fan is not really bladeless, they are commonly referred to as such, since they have no visible (or touchable) fan blades. The blades are hidden inside the chassis. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:26, 27 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 18:30, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – King's Garden (historical) → King's Garden (biblical place) – This place name is based on biblical theology. It requires disambiguation because there are other places known as "King's Garden", such as King's Garden (Odense), Denmark. As with other place names where the biblical place name clashes with a modern geography, a suitable biblical disambiguator is added, e.g.: Shiloh (biblical city). There has been an attempt in recent years to tie the name King's Garden to the Al-Bustan neighbourhood in Silwan, East Jerusalem, but as B'Tselem notes in the article: "the exact location and nature of the biblical garden are not known and there are no archeological or other findings in al-Bustan to suggest that this is in fact the location." As such, the location of this place remains in the domain of the largely hypothetical, making the biblical disambiguator only more apt. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. Judekkan (talk) 15:53, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Dihya → Kahina – Dihya -> Kahina - it appears that this is the most common name used in reliable sources, eg Google scholar where I see "About 181 results" for the current name, about 133 for Al-Kahina and to my surprise,about 613 for Kahina - Kahina or Al-Kahina is also the most certain name we seem to have. Redirects of course for the rest where reasonable. Doug Weller talk 14:22, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Medical abortion → Medication abortion – What do editors think of renaming the article from "Medical abortion" to "Medication abortion"? Google search result-count suggests that "Medical abortion" is slightly more commonly used, but "Medication abortion" is also heavily used. It seems clear that the current title, "Medical abortion" is potentially very confusing, because surgical abortions are also "medical" - at least to any layman. My understanding is that "medical abortion" became more commonly used because, within the community of medical experts, the word "medical" suggests medicine or drugs ... so that explains how that term originated. But Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for _everyone_ and since there are two phrases that are both commonly used, it seems better to use the term that is more understandable & less ambiguous. Historical search trends of the two phrases (in USA) are: * https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=%22Medical%20abortion%22 * https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=%22medication%20abortion%22 Since both phrases are heavily used, it seems better to use the one that is more clear & less ambiguous to the layman. Thoughts? Noleander (talk) 02:19, 27 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 02:58, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 3, 2022[edit]

  • (Discuss) – Dêmqog, Ngari Prefecture → Demchok, Ngari Prefecture – Demchok is the standard spelling of the village name in English language sources, as the page content and the sources cited here themselves exemplify. The current page title, "Dêmqog", is an outdated pinyin transliteration of the Chinese version of the name, which is no longer in use. Kautilya3 (talk) 11:21, 17 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. ~StyyxTalk? 18:47, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Osmanabad → Dharashiv – The name is officially changed by the government of Maharashtra recently. It is also an ancient name with a relatively secular and peaceful history than the last name. ShresthaShome.Ullas (talk) 18:31, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Bloody Sunday (1972) → Bloody Sunday – The 1972 massacre appears to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for 'Bloody Sunday' by quite a margin: * It gets 3~4 times as many page views as the second most read article (the 1905 event) with recurring spikes to much more than that.[6] * Substantially more readers landing on the dab page open the article about the 1972 event than any other disambiguated article.[7] * Google Books seems to return only results about the 1972 massacre in the first few pages.[8] * Ngram Viewer shows a spike in 1972 for 'Bloody Sunday' to more than double the average for the previous decades.[9] * Google Scholar gives more mixed results, but still the 1972 event occurs twice as many times or more as the others in the first few pages.[10] * A plain Google search returns only four results other than the 1972 event (one of which is the film about the event).[11]
    Deeday-UK (talk) 16:54, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Dyke March → Dyke march – The term "dyke march" is clearly not a proper noun, and the article should therefore be moved to "Dyke march". The language of the article itself clearly demonstrates that it is not a proper noun: Before the concept of a "(d)yke (m)arch" came to be... (the word a indicates that is is a common noun); A (d)yke (m)arch is a lesbian visibility and protest march... (if it were a proper noun, the article would read The Dyke March is a lesbian visibility and protest march...); and so on. Thrakkx (talk) 00:05, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 2, 2022[edit]

  • (Discuss) – Gamergate (harassment campaign) → Gamergate – There are two topics under the name "gamergate". According to Wikipedia Disambigation rules, "If there are only two topics to which a given title might refer, and one is the primary topic, then a disambiguation page is not needed." Therefore, this page should be renamed as simply gamergate and the disambiguation page should be removed. --Madame Necker (talk) 22:11, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 23rd Infantry Division (United States) → Americal Division – WP:COMMONNAME. Page was at Americal Division until it was moved without discussion in 2008. The official World War II history of the division, US Army sources, and even the official division reports overwhlemingly use the name Americal Division rather than its numerical designation. The division veterans organization is named Americal Division veterans. Kges1901 (talk) 22:09, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Sega 3D Classics Collection → Sega 3D Fukkoku Archives – This page is currently structured as a page for the game "Sega 3D Classics Collection", that happens to also cover "Sega 3D Fukkoku Archives" and "Sega 3D Fukkoku Archives 3: Final Stage". I think it would be better structured as a page about the video game series "Sega 3D Fukkoku Archives" that covers all three equally, rather than emphasizing the only game with an English release so strongly. In that case, the title "Sega 3D Fukkoku Archives" would also be more appropriate, as this is common to the titles of all three games in the series. SnorlaxMonster 14:20, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Honeychurch → Honeychurch (band) – Honeychurch refers to a parish in Devon, England and a surname of the same name, which merits a disambiguation page. This questionable low-notability band whose article was created in 2006 by an account named after the band's founding member is not the primary topic. The article has an average of 3 daily pageviews and all Google Books, News and Scholar results pertain to the place name or surname. Οἶδα (talk) 10:00, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – That '90s Show → ? – The base name should be a disambiguation page to have both this and The Simpsons version pages listed on there as I don't think there is a primary topic between these two. Both moves involving this current title were not discussed and presumably it served as a redirect to That '90s Show (The Simpsons) before this sitcom had it's article in this current title. Let's discuss which is better. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 15:20, 22 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 05:43, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Dawson massacre → Dawson expedition – Per WP:NPOV; massacre is a contentious label that should generally be avoided unless it is the clear common name in reliable English language sources and that isn't the case here per ngrams. It also isn't a useful descriptive title, as it isn't likely to align to any of the various definitions of massacre; while the American commander did attempt to surrender at one point, in the fog of war both sides continued to fight. BilledMammal (talk) 05:33, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 2022 Kazakh unrest → 2022 Kazakhstani unrest – "Kazakh" is a misnomer in the context of this article. "Kazakhstani" refers to all citizens of Kazakhstan, regardless of ethnicity, while "Kazakh" refers only to ethnic Kazakhs.[1] These protests were not ethnic-based, as many non-Kazakhs participated in the protests. Many equivalent articles in other languages use "in Kazakhstan", but "2022 unrest in Kazakhstan" is not a common title format on the English Wikipedia.

References

  1. ^ Schneider, Johann F.; Larsen, Knud S.; Krumov, Krum; Vazow, Grigorii (2013). Advances in International Psychology: Research Approaches and Personal Dispositions, Socialization Processes and Organizational Behavior. Kassel university press GmbH. p. 164. ISBN 978-3-86219-454-4. Archived from the original on 27 February 2018.
– Yue🌙 03:43, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 1, 2022[edit]

  • (Discuss) – Larries → Larry Stylinson – It seems to me that the article is (or at least should be) about the theory itself and reasoning behind it, not the group of people believing it. Per WP:CRITERIA, "Larry Stylinson" is more recognizable, more natural (not Twitter lingo), and more precise (there are people named Larrie, but there's no one named Larry Stylinson). As far as I know, there aren't any other ship articles to point to for precedent or to stay consistent with - but for other conspiracy theory articles, the title is always the name of the theory, not the people who believe it. Not to mention that "Larries" is just a derivative form of "Larry Stylinson" anyway. We can obviously include the term "Larries" in the lead as well, but changing the title just makes more sense. ~BappleBusiness[talk] 23:47, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Jimmie Rodgers (country singer) → Jimmie Rodgers – I consider that this page should be moved to "Jimmie Rodgers" (as also noted by other people on its talk page). Currently, "Jimmie Rodgers" redirects to "James Rodgers", which is in of itself a disambiguation page. There are but two people with the exact spelling "Jimmie Rodgers": the original Jimmie Rodgers, whose biography is now contained under the title "Jimmie Rodgers (country singer)" and then "Jimmie Rodgers (pop singer)", who archived fame in the late 1950s. "Jimmie Rodgers (country singer)" currently has on top of the entry a "not to be confused with" notice that links to the pop singer. Now, since old Jimmie Rodgers is considered the "father of country music" and he is often cited as such by major publications and the Country Music Hall of Fame (1, 2, 3) it would be more relevant to link the entry directly to him, with the link on his article offering the link to the pop singer. I'm more than positive that most of the readers are searching for the country singer due to his major fame and influence (not putting down the pop singer, who had a briefer, but also remarkable career). I think to most readers it is frustrating to land on the page "James Rodgers" and to have to look for the singer among multiple names with radically different spellings. It is not even easy for the people who happen to be looking for the pop singer. GDuwenHoller! 20:55, 23 June 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 21:41, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Battle of the Siverskyi Donets → May 2022 battle of the Donets – The last RM has ended in nothing, but I still argue that the title is not precise and that there's far better possible options. We are already in late June and I haven't seen this event receiving much attention lately. I think people in a few years could see the current title and not be sure what to expect. It could be an article about WW2, the 2014 war, the 2022 invasion, maybe even some Mongol invasion. So it is clear that there's basis for calling this a battle and not an incident or similar. A "near Bilohorivka" type of title is also problematic since the article has been expanded ever since the last RM was started and it now includes other attempted crossings on other villages not particularly less notable than Bilohorivka. Thus, I propose May 2022 battle of the Donets. The month of May has passed and I believe there have not been other notable events at the river during the invasion, so adding the month and year to the title would suffice for precision. Adding only the year would not be enough as I can tell from memory right now that on April there was fighting going on in the river after the Russians won in Izium. I would also like to drop "Siverskyi" from the current title as the river's name in Wikipedia is Donets. Furthermore, "Siverskyi Donets" is the name in Ukrainian but the river also passes through Russia. May 2022 battle at the Donets is another option, less proper name-like and more natural, and it could enter into consideration. However, I don't want this RM to end in no consensus again so I will not be striving too hard for this, and "May 2022 battle of the Donets" remains as the primary proposal. Super Ψ Dro 14:16, 24 June 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:56, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Vukovar-Syrmia County → Vukovar-Srijem County – I'm initiating this formal discussion here in order to formalize earlier discussions, cf. #RfC on Proposal to rename article above. While there is some credence to using the historical anglicized title in the name of the historical region, the modern-day region of Vukovarsko-srijemska županija isn't really consistently named Vukovar-Syrmia County in the preponderance of relevant sources. There is some consistency to it, in relation to names of some of the other (but definitely not all) Croatian counties, and some inconsistency, primarily in relation to Srem District. We should have neutral editors examine this and decide what is the best course of action. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 12:33, 12 June 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:37, 22 June 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:53, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Bat Mitzvah massacre → Bat Mitzvah attack – The only reliable source that refers to this as a massacre is the Independent but only in the headline and not in the article body and headlines are not a reliable source per WP:HEADLINES. Within the article body it is described as an attack and the the other source given in support of the naming also describes it as an attack. Thus reliable sources do not refer to this event as a massacre. An editor previously attempted this move in 2021 but was reverted as "undiscussed", so here is the required discussion. Selfstudier (talk) 11:24, 22 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 18:19, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Abiogenesis → Origin of life – The term "Origin of life" is close to 100 times more commonly used than "Abiogenesis". "Origin of life" gets 176 million ghits, against 1.78 million for "Abiogenesis". Similarly, the Google books Ngram shows that "Origin of life" has always been far more widely used in printed sources; it is considerably older, starting in 1800 rather than around 1870, and its usage has resurged since 1995. In contrast, "Abiogenesis" was most popular around 1891, though still only at about 23% of "Origin of life", and most the time much less than that, for instance in 1980 it was at about 5% of "Origin of life". Google Scholar gives "Origin of life" some 116,000 hits, and "Abiogenesis" some 6,400. Thus both scientists and other authors concur in using "Origin of life" as their preferred term. I therefore propose, per WP:COMMONNAME, that we move the article to "Origin of life". Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:57, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Fermented tea → Dark tea – the use of "fermented tea” for heicha (even if denotatively correct）is misleading and could be a cause for misunderstanding, as it conflicts with the established and current tea industry terminology. Laozha (talk) 21:18, 23 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:35, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 30, 2022[edit]

  • (Discuss) – Church of Singapore (Protestant Church) → Church of Singapore (Charismatic) – There are a number of Protestant Churches that have been called the "Church of Singapore" throughout history including the Methodist Church of Singapore, the Presbyterian Church of Singapore, and the Anglican Church of Singapore. The "Church of Singapore" in the article is notable as a Charismatic church/denomination in the country, and it gets mentioned as such in histories of Pentecostalism and the Charismatic movement. Jahaza (talk) 17:21, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 2022 Muhammad remarks controversy → 2022 Prophet remarks row – As mentioned towards the end of the previous 8 June move request discussion, and as per WP:CRITERIA, this topic already has a recognizable, natural, precise and concise descriptive title that is used widely in the sourcing. The exact phrase Prophet remarks row has 56,900 news hits (at the last count), compared to exactly 3 news hits for the title that the page was recently moved to. So commonplace is Prophet remarks row that even some non-English, non-Latin script articles are using the tag for search purposes, see: here. "2022 Prophet remarks row", with the date at the front, is meanwhile consistent with Wikipedia's more general event title formats. Flipping it around, I have not seen any good reasons for NOT using the terminology used most commonly by the referenced sources, or for sticking with a title clearly at odds with this terminology, which serves little purpose and could potentially sow confusion among prospective readers. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:32, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Moura Massacre → Siege and massacre of Moura – I propose to move the article to the title "Siege and massacre of Moura" to reflect to two interwoven aspects of this event: The military action, and the resulting mass murder. In regards to sources, one can easily find them by searching for "siege"+"Moura" etc. (instead of fixed terms such as "Siege of Moura" which rarely produce results for most modern battles). Anyway, here I will list some sources which describe the event as both a "siege" (or "siège" in French) as well as "massacre": *Reuters *New York Times" *CSIS *dw *cetri *rfi *La Presse I found all of these in a quick search, and did not even try to search for the various alternate spellings of Moura or other military terms such as "battle" or "clash". The issue with the title "Moura Massacre" is quite clear: This was not just mass murder, but also a military operation. The title "Siege and massacre of Moura" would cover both aspects. Applodion (talk) 16:38, 22 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 01:48, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Sino–Soviet relations → China–Soviet Union relations – The last of such bilateral relations articles that uses the demonyms rather than the names of the countries. Sino and Soviet are not the names of the countries. It's China and Soviet Union. Had it changed at RM, but was changed over there back to Sino-Soviet since it needs a discussion. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:08, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 29, 2022[edit]

  • (Discuss) – Kidney → Human kidney – The Kidney article describes human kidneys with little bias to mammalian kidneys. A new article about vertebrate kidneys has been created to describe kidneys carefully without any bias towards human or mammals. Human anatomy must be split from other animals because combined articles are highly biased towards human and create misunderstandings or even give wrong information like bean-shaped kidneys in all vertebrates (fishes are vertebrates too). D6194c-1cc (talk) 17:19, 22 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 21:16, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Thumper (Bambi) → Thumper (character) –
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    To be WP:CONSISTENT, we had a discussion at WikiProject Disney on what titles should be for Disney character and we came up with a flow chart. Since there is no other article about a character named Thumper, this needs to be changed to (character), unless I am missing something. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 18:56, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – DM SAT → Dm sat – Name for use in press is unknown. Stylization of newline-separated text is not desirable for Wikipedia articles. 5.43.73.144 (talk) 18:31, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – John Weaver (historian) → J. R. H. Weaver – He was widely known by his initials, and it seems to be unclear whether his primary given name was John or Reginald (there are hits on Google for "John R. H. Weaver" and "J. Reginald H. Weaver", both far fewer than for JRH, and he seems to have been familiarly known as "Reggie Weaver". LookLook36 (talk) 13:49, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Aurangabad → Sambhajinagar – As per the the cabinet meeting on 29 June 2022, the official name has been changed to sambhaji Nagar. So request to change name of articles to Sambhaji Nagar. Thenexttalk (talk) 13:41, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 28, 2022[edit]

  • (Discuss) – Socialbakers → Emplifi – I work in marketing for Emplifi. Socialbakers was acquired by Astute Solutions in 2020[17] and the combined entity was renamed "Emplifi"[18][19]. Recent articles have adopted the new "Emplifi" name.[20] Forrester[21] uses the phrase "Socialbakers, now Emplifi," but states in the article that the company was still called Socialbakers when they did their review and the company name was changed just prior to publishing. I'd also like to share a proposed draft of an "Emplifi" page if the page is renamed. The current page is a WP:TNT situation. It is mostly uncited or cited to press releases and reads more like a product description from a product catalogue than an encyclopedic entry. JordanJulian19 (talk) 15:11, 21 June 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. Spekkios (talk) 22:49, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Coda.io → Coda (document editor) – I have disclosed a WP:COI as I work in marketing at Coda. The current page name is the URL of the Coda website but is not how most reliable sources refer to the company or service. Most sources just call it Coda. Coda.io was most likely adopted because Wikipedia has more than two dozen pages on various topics that go by the name "Coda," so there is a palpable need to disambiguate. I suggest "Coda (document editor)," which is more consistent with how reliable sources generally refer to Coda. I'd also like to share a proposed expansion of the current page, to address the "expansion needed" tag and make other improvements, if anyone is willing to review it for potential bias as required by WP:COI. Brian.klein.1k (talk) 17:30, 21 June 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. Spekkios (talk) 22:48, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Nasturtium (plant) → Nasturtium (crucifer) – This article is about the genus Nasturtium (common name: watercress), but the problem is that nasturtium is the common name for members of the unrelated genus Tropaeolum. This article isn't the primary topic (see e.g. Wikinav), so a disambiguator is needed. The current choice – "(plant)" – won't do because the other nasturtiums are plants too. For the 16 years until last week, the title used to have "(genus)", which may appear better as the term is the scientific name of only this genus, but the other topic, Tropaeolum, also constitutes a genus, so that's not precise enough. I'm proposing "(crucifer)", using what I hope is the still-not-obsolete common term for members of this family, but there's a second option: to go directly for the name of the family: Nasturtium (Brassicaceae). – Uanfala (talk) 11:11, 20 June 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. Spekkios (talk) 22:46, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – City of David (Silwan) → Wadi Hilweh – This page was created as part of a content split from City of David (archaeological site). This article, as the lead lays out, is about the Wadi Hilweh area, which is where the City of David archaeological site is located. As I understand it, there is also some Israeli settlement in the area and efforts have been made to refer to the entire area as "City of David", but the sources attest that this is simple an attempted rebranding of the Palestinian village/neighborhood known as "Wadi Hilweh" - a name for which this article is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, unlike "City of David", for which the primary topic is, well, ultimately the historic city of Jerusalem, but in a modern sense the archaeological excavation and touristic national park. Iskandar323 (talk) 15:51, 21 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 21:17, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Hustler → Hustler (magazine) – Hustler more often refers to the group of professions in American English collectively called "Hustlers", especially in the contemporary times, yet due to dialectal variations it is best to make the page Hustler a redirect to the disambiguation page like it should've always been. While the magazine may be the most impactful form of hustler, that does not necessarily mean it is what one will be searching for as someone who is searching for the magazine will search with magazine in the term instead of just the term hustler, as if they themselves already concede that information for the term hustler will not be searching for hustler. Using Google Trends, one notices that searches for the term "Hustler" spike every summer, which just so happens to be when hustling as a group of professions are most active, whilst the magazine is far less searched for, and that pornographic magazines as a whole are on the decay. What may have been a major usage of Hustler in the early 2000s, which is likely considering the trend, can no longer confidently be considered the case.[1]

References

  1. ^ "Google Trends". Google Trends. Google. Retrieved 28 June 2022.
– BruhtatoChips (talk) 20:09, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Outline of library science → Outline of library and information science – Library and information science is a well established, interdisciplinary field of study that have numbers of overlapping concepts and terms that are leant upon to understand the subject. I feel renaming this page would help align this better as well as better capturing the content that is currently on this page, with a mix of library and information science-related topics. Jamzze (talk) 20:04, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Udaipur State → Kingdom of Mewar – A few days ago Sisodias of Mewar was merged here. That merge and expansion of the page has changed what the page is about. It is now about the Kingdom in its historical context and not just the state under Maratha and British. Because historically speaking, there was no state before the british arrived, this must be a kingdom. Also Mewar is a Common Name to include in the title and not Udaipur. See WP:COMMONNAME >>> Extorc.talk 08:05, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Commonwealth of Australia (US Corporation) → ? – As the article itself indicates, Australia is not a US corporation. It is registered with SEC as a foreign government. I am not sure what the new name should be (or whether this should be a separate article). Perhaps the content should be included as part of the SEC page or another page on Registration of foreign governments with SEC; or perhaps it should be renamed as Australia US Corporation Conspiracy Theory. Zhantongz (talk) 16:22, 12 June 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 19:57, 20 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 07:31, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 2023 Nigerian general election → 2023 Nigerian elections – I again request this move as the current title indicates that there is one central election on one day (like 2018 Pakistani and 2019 British election pages); however, there are dozens of different elections in Nigeria throughout 2023 (from February to at least November) making this page more comparable to the 2020 United States elections (especially as they are both presidential systems with a large number of disparate elections throughout the year). Also, as the component elections in this page already have unique pages, it is no longer like the 2019 page where there was no separate presidential election page. In accordance with other like pages, such as the 2022 Nigerian elections, I believe 2023 Nigerian elections is more accurate. When I brought this up last, it was clear that the user that moved this page is not familiar with the content of the page; when I requested it be moved back others seemingly understood why but stopped short of supporting and thus the inaccurate title stook. Watercheetah99 (talk) 06:02, 1 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 07:01, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 27, 2022[edit]

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  • (Discuss) – Cherbourg-Octeville → Cherbourg – While this is legally the correct name, for English speakers (as this is the English Wikipedia), the common name is, I believe, simply "Cherbourg". Nobody would ever say "I'm getting the ferry from Dublin / Portsmouth to Cherbourg-Octeville" - it just doesn't happen. I picked this article as opposed to Cherbourg-en-Cotentin simply because this one looks like the most developed, and somebody going to the other article by typing "Cherbourg" just looking for travel or military history information would come away wondering why it was so undeveloped. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:58, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – King's Garden (Silwan) → Al-Bustan (East Jerusalem) – This is an article about Al-Bustan, a Palestinian neighbourhood in the Silwan area of East Jerusalem, that is subject to an attempted forced displacement by the Israeli authorities with the aim of creating a park named the "King's Garden" in homage to something biblical. Numerically "Al-Bustan+Silwan" draws 42,000 hits in a google search versus 1,500 hits for "King's Garden" + Silwan; however, the more obvious point to make is that simply planning to redevelop a location does not automatically make that place someplace else - that just makes it the name of a redevelopment scheme. As this report: "The "King's Garden" Plan in Al-Bustan" correctly phrases it - the 'King's Garden' would be better described as being IN Al-Bustan. B'Tselem calls the development plan 'a tourist park' in the Al-Bustan Neighbourhood [28]. Again, a development within an area does not that area rename. Instead, the logical semantic structuring of this (were we to structure it) would be: King's Garden (proposed development), Al-Bustan, Silwan, East Jerusalem, but Wikipedia is also not a crystal ball (WP:CRYSTALBALL), and we don't create articles about things that may or may not exist in the future. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:12, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 2022 Al-Aqsa Mosque clashes → 2022 Al-Aqsa clashes – Most of the events took place in the Al Aqsa compound, not the mosque building / prayer hall. The Israeli police did enter the mosque building / prayer hall, but not clear to me that their were "clashes" or "storming" in that specific location. If unfamiliar with the source of confusion here, see ongoing RM at Talk:Al-Aqsa Mosque#Requested move 30 May 2022; though this RM proposal is not dependent on the outcome there. Having read some of the underlying sources here, we have got some parts wrong due to this confusion – e.g. NYT footnote 10 discusses activities in the Aqsa compound but we describe it as happening in the mosque building. Could add the word "compound" to the title as some sources do, but this solution seems better per WP:CONCISE Onceinawhile (talk) 08:33, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • (Discuss) – Aldobrandini Madonna → Garvagh Madonna – Both these paintings, the first by Raphael and the second by Titian, are in the same museum (the National Gallery), which on its website refers to them as The Garvagh Madonna and The Aldobrandini Madonna respectively. (We would drop the definite article per MOS:ART: "Works whose usual title includes the name of a former owner or a location do not include "the" in the article title".) There are more results for "Garvagh Madonna" than for "Aldobrandini Madonna" in Google Scholar (67:62), JSTOR (25:10) and Google itself (~14,200:~13,500), regardless of whether the latter title refers to the the Raphael or the Titian, so there's a WP:COMMONNAME case for calling the Raphael the Garvagh Madonna. The article on the Titian could have a hatnote along the lines of This article is about the painting by Titian. For the painting by Raphael also known by this title, see Garvagh Madonna. Ham II (talk) 08:29, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Australian scrub python → Simalia kinghorni – Assuming the species status described in this article is valid (which ITIS and The Reptile Database confirm), a different species, Simalia amethistina, is also called the "scrub python", and both of them are found in Australia, so the current title is ambiguous. I also don't know where the "Australian" part of this article title came from, since I have not found that word included in the common names given by ITIS or The Reptile Database. IUCN does not seem to list this species; however, an IUCN search returns three results for "scrub python" – Morelia amethistina (a.k.a. Simalia amethistina), Simalia tracyae and Simalia clastolepis, which seems to confirm that the name is ambiguous. A search on ITIS or The Reptile Database for "scrub python" yields two results – Simalia amethistina and this one. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 01:05, 17 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:05, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Medieval metal → Mittelalter metal – The genre is more commonly known as Mittelalter metal since it is mostly exclusive to Germany and does not encompass all medieval themed folk metal. Similar to Neue Deutsche Härte, the genre is more of an exclusive German style that is referred to as such. Medieval metal is just an English translation that is more of the alternate name here. Nhb55840 (talk) 00:23, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Cent (currency) → Cent – Obvious primary topic. The other topics are specific coins (which wouldn't be primary over this article because this article is about the general topic), a part of a specific city, an Old English name of a city, and a few units of measurement, none of which get anywhere near as many views as this page. (I wanted to link the page view comparison here, but I could only get the link for the views of one page, so if you want to see it, you'll have to enter the page names yourself.) Evil Sith Lord (talk) 05:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 16:00, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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