Politics professor questions the “type” of independent government

I found this interesting response from Michael Keating, Professor of politics, University of Aberdeen, in the Guardian Letters:

My quoted comment on the SNP’s economic prospectus – “It’s voodoo economics” – did not imply that Scottish independence is not a viable option (Can Scotland pay its way?, G2, 20 May). As I elaborate in my book, The Independence of Scotland, an independent Scottish state is perfectly feasible. In an independent, social-democratic Scotland, we would pay higher taxes than in England, we would get rather better universal services and, if we spent wisely, we could have a more productive economy. In order to reap the benefits, Scotland would need to learn how to adapt to global changes, to generate real social partnership and to spread its burdens equitably. It would have to link social inclusion policies to economic development, embrace active labour market policies and think seriously about industrial policy. None of this would happen automatically just because of independence. Indeed, were Scotland to have enhanced fiscal powers under devolution-max or independence-lite, and were to make these adaptations, then independence would become redundant.

The alternative scenario, being pressed by some neoliberal thinktanks in Scotland, is to go for a low-tax, regulated, neoliberal regime. This would entail dismantling the existing welfare settlement, abandoning universal provision and increasing social inequality. The voodoo economics is the effort to combine the social democratic and neoliberal models, or wishfully think that tax cuts pay for themselves. It is to be welcomed that we are at last moving away from obsessions with 19th-century notions of independence to serious thinking about the meaning of self-government in a globalised world and a transformed Europe. So it is not a question of whether we go for independence or not, but what we do with self-government that is critical. Let us hope that the coming debate will focus on this and not on illusions about independence itself yielding “levers” or on the supposed inability of Scotland to manage without the aid of its neighbour.


 

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Scottish whisky export brought into debate

I am interested in one of the comments on a Guardian article about Scotland’s independence.

Read here:

Andrew Hughes Hallett, professor of economics, St Andrews University

Independence is entirely a matter of taste. If the Scottish people chose to pursue it, they wouldn’t find it any more difficult than countries such as Denmark or Norway, which are a similar size. Those countries use the instruments at their disposal – a whole range of fiscal policies – to improve their economies.

Among the UK’s biggest single exports is Scotch whisky. Scotland has one of the biggest biotech clusters in Europe. Scotland’s accounts, rather than those compiled in London, show that Scotland has a small net surplus, rather than being a net beneficiary from the UK. We have a comparative advantage in electricity generation, very distinct strengths in digital imaging and measurement instruments. And the way the UK accounts are constructed means that exports of financial services are regionally credited to London, even if they derive from Scottish financial institutions.

(Taken from this Guardian article)

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Guardian article highlights value of renewable energy

This recent Guardian business article on Scottish independence highlights the economic and structural arguments, bringing in points such as oil and the Scottish-built wave generator, which could make Scotland a leader in renewable energy.

The argument is clearly discussed in this article. It also raises interesting questions such as “what share of the UK debt would be taken on by Scotland” and “at what interest rate”?

The article does make some good “pro” points, too.  Many economists believe that Scotland could go it alone without much difficulty and has the economy to sustain independence but eventually (public sector?) cuts would need to be made.

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Fiscal benefits of independence questioned

Reported in the Metro newspaper: Professor John Kay, who sits on the Council of Economic Advisors (CEA), said that while separating from the union was ‘financially viable’, it is still unclear whom – if anyone – would benefit from the move.

And similar on the BBC website

Full story in Scotland on Sunday: Professor John Kay: Breaking up the union may have a greater financial impact than the SNP wants

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Interesting ‘for and against’ public link

Worth a read. There are some good points for and against in here. There is also a bit of sentimentalised rhetoric but it’s worth a sift…

Pros and cons of independence on Yahoo questions

 

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What is this Convince Me blog all about?

I read. I listen. I discuss. I think. When it comes to politics I also read, listen, discuss and think. But I have become perplexed. I can’t decide whether independence is the right course for Scotland.

I hear and read what the Scottish National Party (SNP) say. I hear and read what the party leader Alex Salmond says. For example, read Salmond’s Taking Scotland Forward. Some of what I hear and read I agree with. Some of the issues and arguments seem sensible. Some of what Alex Salmond has already delivered in Scotland is good for the Scots.

But there are some issues and arguments that I am not so keen on. However, that’s politics. It is unlikely that one person will ever be completely in tune with what one political party believes and states.

At the same time, I hear the sentiment of the Scottish people. “It’s time we stood alone.” “It’s time we ruled ourselves.” “It’s time to do things for ourselves.” It’s time we proved how strong the Scots are.” Some of this I agree with and some I feel is too over-sentimentalised.

The issue that leaves me perplexed, however, is the economy. The SNP is  planning a referendum on Scottish Independence to call for a Scottish Parliament that has full powers over all Scottish issues, and including the economy. On this issue, too, I have listened and read the arguments. I have heard that the SNP believe that independence will be better for Scotland economically.

But I have also listened to and read the arguments against independence. (Read this Scotsman story about Conservative leader David Cameron’s vow to fight the independence campaign, for example.) I  hear those both in Scotland and the rest of Britain who state that Scottish independence would be economic suicide. I understand that some believe the Scots will be far harder hit in the pockets by way of taxes and duties in an independent Scotland.

I love Scotland and I am very happy living here. I am bringing up a daughter in a Scottish state school. I am a single mother. I care about the world, other people, my family, my finances, other people’s finances, free health services, good schools, a clean environment, a pension, a safe, secure and prosperous future for my child. I imagine I’m like the majority of people.

I will come clean here and tell you that I was born in England but have lived in Scotland for 30 years. I went to school in Peebles and I have had no desire whatsoever to move back to England. My mum, dad, sister and brother all live in Scotland and I have had a good career in Scotland as a journalist. I am one of Scotland’s foremost writers on Scotland’s great outdoors and run http://www.fionaoutdoors.co.uk If asked to describe myself I would say I am Scottish, not English, although I might also call myself British.

But I’m not convinced that Scottish independence is the best solution for Scotland, Scots or the future.

What I want to do with this blog is to hear from both sides. I want to read the arguments for and against. I want to read serious and analytical comment and debate. I want to be brought evidence, statistics and hard facts.

Sentiment is easy to voice. This is not the place to make sweeping statements and to write bitter, anti-English comment.  It’s the actual facts, the real evidence, the properly persuasive issues that I am very keen to hear. I would like this to be a blog that others can come to so as to make a commonsense and well-argued choice about independence or not. At this stage I do not have a strong feeling either way.

This blog is the place to Convince Me (and anyone else who is interested) On Scottish Independence.

Please comment. Or contact this blog via email fionaoutdoors@aol.com or Twitter @indeconvinceme and propose a guest blog on this site.

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