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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.

Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.

Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

  • Technical reasons may prevent a move: a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
  • Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
  • A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
  • Unregistered users and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will enact the request. If not, the request may be re-listed to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

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Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

Undiscussed moves

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Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

  • No article exists at the new target title;
  • There has been no discussion (especially no recent discussion) about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
  • It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with such a move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Requesting technical moves

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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct page if you tried to move a page, and you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons: ..."

  • To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the top of the list, filling in pages and reason: 
    {{subst:RMassist|current page title|new page title|reason=reason for move}}
    This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
  • If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
  • If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.

Technical requests

Uncontroversial technical requests

He is notable as a motorcycle builder, and his current business venture is firearms, so "television personality" is probably not accurate. 162 etc. (talk) 16:16, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think 162 makes a very fair point. Is it correct to say that the main reason he's notable is because he's a motocycle builder? And are there other people with articles called Jesse James who're also entrepreneurs? Dr. Vogel (talk) 16:30, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
He also starred in a TV show about him "doing death-defying stunts", and was on Celebrity Apprentice, and was in a "skateboarding video game" and produced several television shows about various topics unrelated to entrepreneurship (something about Iraq, something about trying to break a land speed record, and something about the history of motorcycles). Even when featured on television shows about him operating businesses, his degree of personal success is arguably more a matter of the degree of success of the television shows rather than the degree of success of the businesses. But it might be worth having an RM discussion to sort this out further. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:53, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Administrator needed

Contested technical requests

Requests to revert undiscussed moves

Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves

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The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:

  • there has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
  • someone could reasonably disagree with the move.

Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, see Requesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.

Do not create a new move request when one is already open on the same talk page. Instead, consider contributing to the open discussion if you would like to propose another alternative. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.

Do not create a move request to rename one or more redirects. Redirects cannot be used as current titles in requested moves.

Requesting a single page move

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To request a single page move, click on the "New section" tab of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new subject/header, inserting this code: 

{{subst:requested move|NewName|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.}}

Replace NewName with the requested new name of the page (or with a simple question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 4 June 2022" and sign the post for you.

There is no need to edit the article in question. Once the above code is added to the Talk page, a bot will automatically add the following notification at the top of the affected page:

Note: Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as Requests for comment, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Google Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topics.

WikiProjects may subscribe to Article alerts to receive RM notifications. For example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Article alerts/Requested moves is transcluded to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or noticeboard that might be interested in the move request, as long as this notification is neutral.

Single page move on a different talk page

Occasionally, a move request must be made on a talk page other than the talk page of the page to be moved. For example, a request to rename Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing and templates would need to take place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation because the talk page of the project page to be moved, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources, is a redirect to that centralized discussion page. In this type of case, the requested move should be made using the following code: 

{{subst:requested move|reason=(the reason for the page move goes here).|current1=(present title of page to be renamed)|new1=(proposed title of page)}}

Note that the |1= unnamed parameter is not used, and that the |current1= and |new1= parameters are used similar to multiple page moves described below.

Requesting multiple page moves

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A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected pages, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).

To request a multiple page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you chose for your request, without adding a new header, inserting this code: 

{{subst:requested move
| current1 = Current title of page 1
| new1     = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2     = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3     = New title for page 3
| reason   = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.
}}
See also: Template:Requested move/extended blank

For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia and Wiki, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia, and replace current2 with Wiki. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article at page 1 (Talk:Wikipedia). Do not sign a request with ~~~~ as the template does this automatically. Do not skip pairs of numbers.

RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of the additional pages that are included in your request, advising that the move discussion is in progress, where it is, and that all discussion for all pages included in the request should take place at that one location.

Occasionally the discussions for significant multi-move requests may be hosted on WikiProject talk pages or other pages in Project namespace. For multi-move discussions hosted on a page which is not itself proposed to be moved, specify |current1=Current title of page 1 for the first page to move.

Request all associated moves explicitly

Please list every move that you wish to have made in your request. For example, if you wish to move Cricket (disambiguation) to Cricket because you do not believe the sport is the primary topic for the search term "Cricket", then you actually want to move two pages, both Cricket (disambiguation) and Cricket. Thus you must list proposed titles for each page affected by your request. For example, you might propose:

If a new title is not proposed for the sport, it is more difficult to achieve consensus for a new title for that article. A move request that does not show what to do with the material at its proposed target, such as:

is incomplete. Such requests may be completed as a request to decide the best new title by discussion.

Template usage examples and notes
Talk page tag Text that will be shown (and usage notes)
{{subst:Requested move|new|reason=why}}
links talk edit
Requested move 4 June 2022

Wikipedia:Requested moves → New – why Example (talk) 03:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Use when the proposed new title is given.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:.
This tag should be placed at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.[reply]

{{subst:Requested move|?|reason=why}}
Requested move 4 June 2022

Wikipedia:Requested moves → ? – why Example (talk) 03:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Use when the proposed new title is not known.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:.
This tag should be placed at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.[reply]

{{subst:Requested move|new|reason=why|talk=yes}}
Requested move 4 June 2022

Wikipedia:Requested moves → New – why Example (talk) 03:23, 4 June 2022‎ (UTC)[reply]

Survey
Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this subsection with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
Discussion
Any additional comments:



This template adds subsections for survey and discussion.
Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted. Be sure to use the subst:
Click the "New Section" tab on the talk page and leave the Subject/headline blank, as the template by default automatically creates the heading.

{{subst:Requested move|new1=x|current2=y|new2=z|reason=why}}
Requested move 4 June 2022

– why Example (talk) 03:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Do not sign this template—this tag is auto-signed when substituted.
Be sure to use the subst: and place this tag at the beginning of the section containing the relevant discussion.
Add additional related move requests in pairs (|current3= and |new3=, |current4= and |new4=, etc.).[reply]

{{subst:Requested move|new1=?|current2=y|new2=?|reason=why}}
Requested move 4 June 2022

– why Example (talk) 03:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Commenting on a requested move

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All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. There are a number of standards that Wikipedians should practice in such discussions:

  • When editors recommend a course of action, they write Support or Oppose in bold text, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g. '''Support'''.
  • Comments or recommendations are added on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *) and signed by adding ~~~~ to the end. Responses to another editor are threaded and indented using multiple bullets.
  • The article itself should be reviewed before any recommendation is made; do not base recommendations solely on the information supplied by other editors. It may also help to look at the article's edit history. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior move requests. They may contain relevant arguments and useful information.
  • Vested interests in the article should be disclosed per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI.

When participating, please consider the following:

  • Editors should make themselves familiar with the article titling policy at Wikipedia:Article titles.
  • Other important guidelines that set forth community norms for article titles include Wikipedia:Disambiguation, specific naming conventions, and the manual of style.
  • The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.
  • Explain how the proposed article title meets or contravenes policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
  • Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.[a]
  • Do not make conflicting recommendations. If you change your mind, use strike-through to retract your previous statement by enclosing it between <s> and </s> after the bullets, and de-bold the struck words, as in "• Support Oppose".

Please remember that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but that arguments based in policy, guidelines, and evidence have more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers an argument that does not explain how the move request is consistent with policies and guidelines, a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion may be useful. On the other hand, a pattern of responding to requests with groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider using a dispute resolution process.

Closing a requested move

Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. The Simple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.

Relisting a requested move

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Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing.[b] Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.

Relisting should be done using {{subst:relisting}}, which automatically includes the relister's signature, and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures).

When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.

If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as by notifying WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request can often be used to identify WikiProjects suitable for notification.

Notes

  1. ^ A nominator making a procedural nomination with which they may not agree is free to add a bulleted line explaining their actual position. Additional detail, such as sources, may also be provided in an additional bullet point if its inclusion in the nomination statement would make the statement unwieldy. Please remember that the entire nomination statement is transcluded into the list on this page.
  2. ^ Despite this, discussions are occasionally relisted more than once.

Current discussions

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This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.

This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 108 discussions have been relisted.

June 4, 2022

June 3, 2022

  • (Discuss) – JTBC Studios → Studio Lululala – JTBC has recently changed the company name to Studio LuluLala based on their existing studio prior to the company rebrand.[2] Would like to have the company name to be changed.

References

  1. ^ Donnelly, Matt (June 1, 2022). "David Zaslav Outlines Major Warner Bros. Film Overhaul, Addresses Toby Emmerich Exit". Variety. Variety. Retrieved June 3, 2022.
  2. ^ "JTBC's New Look as Studio LuluLala Heralds Plans to Expand to the Next Level". Variety. April 24, 2022.
– VernardoLau (talk) 11:07, 27 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Turnagra (talk) 19:30, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Victory March (fight song) → Victory March – This song is the WP:PTOPIC for the term "Victory March". There are two articles on Wikipedia that currently are given parenthetical disambiguation: this article and an article whose title is the translation of the title of an Italian movie title. Moving this article to Victory March while maintaining the hatnote would provide for appropriate navigation while eliminating this article's unnecessary parenthetical disambiguation. — Ⓜ️hawk10 (talk) 17:56, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – National Doughnut Day → National Donut Day – This appears to be the most common way of spelling the holiday by orders of magnitude: *A search for "national donut day" returns 13,500,000 results on Google; *A search for "national doughnut day" returns 256,000 results on Google. *NGRAMS also shows similar dominance of "National Donut Day" over "National Doughnut Day", even when accounting for variations in capitalization. Seeing as there is a clear and dominant WP:COMMONNAME, and the proposed name meets all of the WP:CRITERIA, this page should be moved to the common name. — Ⓜ️hawk10 (talk) 17:48, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – HPE 3PAR → 3PAR – Unnecessary disambiguation. "HPE 3PAR" is not a subsidiary of HPE but rather the branding HPE uses for its hardware featuring 3PAR's technologies/patents that they acquired as part of the purchase (and even then the badging on that hardware just says "3PAR"). DigitalIceAge (talk) 00:00, 28 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 17:05, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Ton 618 → TON 618 – No sources besides SIMBAD uses this version of the name. Peer-reviewed papers, including the paper that gave the black hole it's mass estimate, have used the capitalised version of the name. To add further, NASA uses the capitalisation as well. The name being capitalised does not imply an acronym or initialism. Wikipedia typically uses the most commonly-used name, not necessarily the correct name. Faren29 (talk) 13:12, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Turkey → Turkiye – On 1st of June 2022, The united nation accepted a request from the turkish government to use the name (Turkiye) as an official name, to match its pronunciation in Turkish and Arabic languages, and to prevent similarities with words that have other meanings. This event is published on Al Jazeera web-site. Thanks for you. Dr-Taher (talk) 12:46, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Yawkey Way → Jersey Street (Boston) – Street name legally changed in 2018, all sources now refer to it as Jersey Street. Currently, 'Jersey Street (Boston)' is a redirect to Yawkey Way, it should be the other way around. Criticalus (talk) 15:12, 27 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 08:10, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – The In-Between (2019 film) → The In-Between – This should be moved back to its base name. This is the only entry at In Between (disambiguation) with this specific spelling, and the only entry with a hyphen, so it does not need parenthetical disambiguation per WP:SMALLDETAILS. It of course can certainly be confused for The In Between, or users seeking this page may omit the hyphen; moving to the base name will make it feasible to include this in the hatnote at The In Between and save users from going through the disambiguation page, which includes many other entries that are less likely to be sought by users searching terms beginning with "The". Mdewman6 (talk) 01:45, 10 May 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. Turnagra (talk) 06:43, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – George Pirie → George Pirie (publisher) – As of tonight's results in the 2022 Ontario general election, there are now four other George Piries listed on the disambiguation page, and it's not at all clear that this one is highly meganotable enough to outprimary all of the others. Per page view stats, over the last 90 days the plain title attracted an average of just one view per day and a peak of just five views per day — and even some of that was almost certainly from people who were expecting one of the other topics on the dab page. The dab page should be the plain title here; as is so often the case, the only reason the publisher actually has the plain title is that his article was the first one to exist. Bearcat (talk) 05:39, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 2, 2022

  • (Discuss) – 2021 Centennial Airport mid-air collision → 2021 Colorado mid-air collision – No other mid-air collision meeting general notability guidelines seems to have occurred in Colorado during 2021; multiple searches of mainstream news sites all seem to lead to this specific crash. As per the previous discussion, this crash is particularly confounding geographically; the media generally refers to the site as "Denver" or "Centennial Airport", but the collision itself did not take place on airport grounds, the Cirrus crashed off-airport, and neither the airport, the collision site, nor the final location of the Cirrus wreck are actually within Denver corporate limits. Due to a lack of comparable crashes, "Colorado" is adequate to meet WP:COMMONNAME while neatly resolving the geographical debate. Carguychris (talk) 14:51, 25 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 09:48, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – OpenSearch (software) → OpenSearch – I propose that we move OpenSearch to OpenSearch (syndication) and OpenSearch (software) to OpenSearch (with a hatnote disambiguation link) because the software project is now better-known than the syndication protocol and is almost always what users are searching for. Because I am a product manager on the OpenSearch project and therefore have a conflict of interest, I am not making the move myself. The OpenSearch web search syndication protocol was defined in 2005 by A9, part of Amazon.com; it continues to be used. Amazon Web Services, also part of Amazon.com, initiated the open source OpenSearch search engine software project in April 2021, and it is growing rapidly. The OpenSearch trademark is owned by Amazon. The transfer of the name from the syndication protocol to the software project is supported by the maintainer of the syndication protocol. Under our Article titles policy, when two topics have the same name, if one of them is the primary topic, that topic should use the unqualified title, in this case, OpenSearch. The primary topic is defined as: * A topic is primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term. * A topic is primary for a term with respect to long-term significance if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term. Here is some data showing that the software project is primary with respect to usage: * In Google Trends, the term [opensearch] was rated 1.5 from 2017-2020, and rapidly gained in popularity after the OpenSearch project was announced in April 2021. By the end of 2021, it averaged around 50, and for all of 2022 so far, it has averaged 71. Since there has been no recent activity around the protocol, we can infer that the difference between the current level and the stable pre-2021 level represents interest in the project, showing that the project is about 46x more popular as a search topic than the syndication protocol. The Related topics and Related queries also show that the term is being used for the software project. * In Google Search (tested in an incognito window), only one result of the top 10 (the sixth) is about the protocol. That is, Google’s algorithms estimate that the project is of much more interest to searchers than the protocol. * On Github, the software project repo has about 10x more stars and 2x more watches than the protocol, showing interest among developers. * On Wikipedia, pageviews for the project have been increasing steadily, and are now about 70% higher than for the protocol. I don’t have a crystal ball to predict long-term significance, but the protocol is a more niche interest – primarily among developers of browsers and Web search syndication systems – than the software, which is already widely used. Other things called OpenSearch are much less common: OpenSearchServer gets under 10% as many pageviews as either of the main ones, and the Open Search Foundation does not have a Wikipedia article. From the above data, it seems clear that the software project is now the primary topic by a large factor, so it should be at the title OpenSearch. The syndication protocol can use the disambiguated form OpenSearch (syndication). Macrakis (talk) 18:46, 12 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. put'r there 10:15, 23 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 02:14, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 1, 2022

  • (Discuss) – Mass wasting → Mass movement – A simple Google Ngrams search shows that "mass movement" is by far the more common term, appearing many times more often in books than "mass wasting".[10] In my research on dozens of scholarly sources about landslides, I have come across a few that use "mass movement" or similar terms, but I have never seen the term "mass wasting". I think that "mass wasting" is misleading and certainly not the common name. There are many possible alternative titles, including "landslide" and "slope movement", but "mass movement", in its similarity to "slope movement", is most easily connected to related topics by a layperson, and most similar in technical definition to what this article is actually about. A 2008 discussion on the Talk page indicated that this may be a regional variation, but the sources are clear enough that WP:RETAIN can be overridden (if it even applies to article titles). Toadspike (talk) 19:57, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – ByHours → BYHOURS – Switching to the proper template for the COI Editor below. No comment on the move itself. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 16:46, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Joel Smith (murderer) → Murder of Toni-Ann Byfield and Bertram Byfield – Smith isn't notable, other than for this single event, and so there shouldn't be a biography about him as per WP:ONEVENT and WP:PERP. The murders are notable because of the press coverage and public inquiry into Toni-Ann Byfield's death as she was under the care of Birmingham Social Services at the time but had been allowed to stay with her father, a convicted criminal. The public inquiry led to a UK review of child safeguarding practice and the Immigration Services' involvement in the early identification of particularly vulnerable children. This requested move is based on the naming conventions for violent deaths WP:MURDERS, with the first and last name of each victim included to identify them separately. IndigoBeach (talk) 09:46, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 2023 Nigerian general election → 2023 Nigerian elections – I again request this move as the current title indicates that there is one central election on one day (like 2018 Pakistani and 2019 British election pages); however, there are dozens of different elections in Nigeria throughout 2023 (from February to at least November) making this page more comparable to the 2020 United States elections (especially as they are both presidential systems with a large number of disparate elections throughout the year). Also, as the component elections in this page already have unique pages, it is no longer like the 2019 page where there was no separate presidential election page. In accordance with other like pages, such as the 2022 Nigerian elections, I believe 2023 Nigerian elections is more accurate. When I brought this up last, it was clear that the user that moved this page is not familiar with the content of the page; when I requested it be moved back others seemingly understood why but stopped short of supporting and thus the inaccurate title stook. Watercheetah99 (talk) 06:02, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May 31, 2022

  • (Discuss) – SC DHfK Leipzig e.V. → SC DHfK Leipzig – Currently, SC DHfK Leipzig redirects to SC DHfK Leipzig Handball, the handball section of SC DHfK Leipzig. SC DHfK Leipzig and SC DHfK Leipzig e.V. are both ways to refer to the main club, SC DHfK Leipzig. The suffix e.V. is not included commonly when refering to a club, only when referencing the full legal name. Links to "SC DHfK Leipzig" are mostly related to athletics, handball-related links have been changed to "SC DHfK Leipzig Handball". As the handball section is the most prominent one (outside historical context), an About template should then be added here to link to the handball page. Aleph Kaph (talk) 22:50, 24 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 18:25, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Carolingian monetary system → £sd – This page was moved without discussion. It has been stable at "£sd" for the past fifteen years. It discusses the £1 = 20s = 240d accounting system that prevailed in much of western Europe until the 19th Century, and continued in Britain and the British commonwealth until the late 20th Century. I added a historical section on the Carolingian origins of this accounting system last year, merely as a curiosity. But a user recently decided to move the entire article to "Carolingian monetary system" last week, without any prior discussion. The new title reduces its recognizability, and makes it seem like an archaic or obscure topic about early Medieval history rather than one of more recent 20th Century accounting. "£sd" accounting is more recognizable to casual readers particularly English-speakers, many of whom lived under or remember this accounting system. Request to move it back to its long-time stable "£sd" title. Walrasiad (talk) 16:29, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Color analysis (art) → Color analysis – Per WP:QUALIFIER, since there's no relevant disambiguation, the title shouldn't be structured as a parenthetical. Even so, the parenthetical is misleading, anyway. Tagging the page as (art) implies that color analysis is some sub-discipline of formal analysis, or at least a more general application of color theory than just to fashion design, as it seems to be here. The sections of the page dealing with fine art also seem to be more relevant to the general discipline of color theory than specifically to color analysis. If we decide that the parenthetical is to be kept, it should be changed to (design) or (fashion) to reflect this. Marisauna (talk) — 15:29, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – City of David (historic) → City of David (archaeological site) – The current title appears to take the rather fanciful and pointed, presumably tourism-oriented naming for an archaeological site as a 'historical' fait accompli that risks sowing confusion among readers between a biblical myth and an archeological theme park. The current disambiguation device, 'historic' placed in brackets, serves to confuse far more than it serves to disambiguate. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Kobra Khan (character) → Kobra Khan – I don't know why this article needs to be disambiguated. There is no other article with the name "Kobra Khan" on Wikipedia. Even the British Pakistani actress is named Kubra Khan and not Kobra Khan. Perhaps this was the result of some article merge operation long ago? Anyway, the disambiguation is needless and the article should be moved to the base title. JIP | Talk 09:44, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

  1. ^ There were a large number of results for Waateanews that didn't include mention of either Rakiura or Stewart Island. The two articles that did include a mention are included in the totals, though not the search results.

– BilledMammal (talk) 04:15, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • (Discuss) – Junior (education) → ? – The current title is an incomplete disambiguation. There are multiple meanings of "junior" in the context of education:  :# A third-year student at high school or university (seems to be specific to the US or at least to the US and Canada).  :# A stage of overall schooling, as defined by the schooling systems of various countries and parts thereof, hence junior school.  :# A younger or lower-ranked pupil at a school. My secondary school had a rank system whereby pupils were (put simply) classed as juniors, middles, seniors or prefects. Pupils progressed through the ranks as they progressed through the year groups, more or less, though for some of my time there pupils were promoted on the basis of merit and not just age. In my later years at that school, the rank system was apparently abolished (save for the special prefect status), though the school added younger year groups and created a "junior department" for the teaching of these. As it stands, this article is purely about definition 1. As you see, this sense is specific to a small part of the world, and in any case disambiguated titles should not be still ambiguous. But I'm not sure what the best new title would be. I see from here and Junior school that Canada has both definitions 1 and 2? So what would be a good title? Junior (United States and Canada)? Junior (North American education)? Hmm.... — Smjg (talk) 23:43, 23 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:33, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May 30, 2022

  • (Discuss) – Investigation Discovery → ID (American TV channel) – It seems that following the recent logo change two years ago, the network has put more of a focus on branding itself as "ID". Along with the international variants, I propose renaming the article to "ID" to reflect the shift in its branding. JE98 (talk) 20:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Galaxy High → Galaxy High School – Most of the websites I could find about this series call it "Galaxy High School", not "Galaxy High". The websites even display pictures of the show's title screens and packaging with the name stated as "Galaxy High School". JIP | Talk 17:35, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Petronas Towers → Petronas Twin Towers – Using Google search results, there are 885,000 results for Petronas Towers and 1,850,000 results for Petronas Twin Towers. The latter seems to be by far the common name for the towers. (Note, the number seems to change constantly and may not be accurate, but so far the latter outnumbers the former in every instance I tried searching.) On Google News, there are 6,760 results for Petronas Towers and 7,430 results for Petronas Twin Towers. This is a closer margin, but the latter is still the common name. Not sure if I have missed out anything, so do feel free to oppose with your arguments. I am aware there are two prior move requests, but the common name seems to have changed since 2007. Seloloving (talk) 22:23, 22 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 15:41, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Optoform → Optical cage system – This article describes one vendor's optical cage system. An article on optical cage systems in general would be better balanced and more useful. The history section here covers other systems briefly, so I think this article could be a good start on a broader coverage of the topic. I propose to move it and rewrite it as a general article on this topic.--Srleffler (talk) 16:05, 22 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 12:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Beheading in Islam → Beheading and terrorism – As laid out in the merge discussion on this page, this articles currently has a confused scope, being one part legal execution (in Islamic states), the other part being extrajudicial killing by terror groups (which are generally regarded as un-Islamic). As it stands, the bulk of this article refers to the use of beheading by modern non-state terror actors, while the relevant material on legal beheading in an Islamic context has already been copied to Capital punishment in Islam. I therefore propose to simultaneously rename/rescope this article to Beheading and terrorism, which will allow it to address the bulk of its content head on, while not confusing legal state-level beheadings and illegal terrorist group-level beheadings. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:19, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Muaythai at the 2005 Asian Indoor Games → Muay at the 2005 Asian Indoor Games – In according to the Association of IOC Recognised International Sports Federations[3], Muaythai, Muay, Muay Boxing, Thai Kickboxing, Muay Boran, Muay Aerobic, and Wai Kru are the name of sports that are governed by IFMA, so you can use Muay or Muaythai for the article depended on the official document from the organizing committee in each edition. In according to the Olympic Council of Asia constitution (Chapter 3, Article 73)[4], it uses the name of Muay instead of Muaythai. However, its webpage uses both Muay and Muaythai[5] and Doccuments of ABG2014[6] & ABG2016 & AIMAG2017[7] & AIMAG2021 (only 4 editions of OCA events that use Muaythai instead of Muay)[8] use Muaythai instead of Muay. Muay is the alternative name of muaythai, by deleting the world of "thai", for avoiding the dispute of Mainland Southeast Asia martial arts between Southeast Asian nations.[9][10][11][12] I didn't agree that someone change the past name with the current name without official references of that games. The name of the article should rely on the official references, not someone's opinion.

References

  1. ^ "Name change from synchronised to artistic swimming approved by FINA". Inside the Games. Retrieved 30 May 2022.
  2. ^ "Tokyo Olympics: Where Did 'Synchronized Swimming' Go?". Inside the Games. Retrieved 30 May 2022.
  3. ^ "International Federation of Muaythai Associations". Association of IOC Recognised International Sports Federations. Retrieved 29 May 2022.
  4. ^ "Olympic Council of Asia constitution" (PDF). Olympic Council of Asia. Retrieved 30 May 2022.
  5. ^ "Muay (But its content use Muaythai hahaha)". Olympic Council of Asia. Retrieved 30 May 2022.
  6. ^ "Technical Hanbook ABG 2014" (PDF). Olympic Council of Asia. Retrieved 30 May 2022.
  7. ^ "Technical Hanbook AIMAG 2017" (PDF). Olympic Council of Asia. Retrieved 30 May 2022.
  8. ^ "Douccments of AIMAG 2021". Olympic Council of Asia. Retrieved 30 May 2022.
  9. ^ "ยก"สหพันธ์" ชี้ ใช้คำ"มวยไทย" แข่งซีเกมส์ลาว". Kom Chad Luek. 20 June 2009. Retrieved 29 May 2022.
  10. ^ "Minutes of the 6th Meeting of the SEAGF Office Working Group" (PDF). Southeast Asian Games Federation. 20 May 2013. Retrieved 29 May 2022.
  11. ^ "Muay Thai hit by controversy again". Bangkok Post. 22 May 2013. Retrieved 29 May 2022.
  12. ^ "จับตา "มวยไทยในซีเกมส์" หลังชาติสมาชิกเห็นต่างบรรจุในการแข่งขัน". Thai PBS. 25 November 2013. Retrieved 29 May 2022.
– Dinnerbrone (talk) 09:13, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May 29, 2022

  • (Discuss) – Sirach → Book of Sirach – Every other Biblical book page is on this format. Having the book be "Sirach" and the person be "ben Sira" makes no sense, these are just alternate spellings and this is not how any source distinguishes the book from the person. GordonGlottal (talk) 13:39, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Sheikh–Wazed family → Sheikh family – The entire article here about Sheikh Mujib and his family and relatives with Sheikh title without any official surname as per Bangladeshi Muslim tradition! Sheikh mujib Daughters never officially use any surname like Wazed or Siddig! Currently only Sheikh Hasina‘s son use Wazed surname, when the entire article describes about hundreds of people with common sheikh title!! 2A0A:A547:22D2:0:409:825F:EE98:111A (talk) 09:00, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May 28, 2022

  • (Discuss) – LGBT → LGBTQ – Suggested as more inclusive and encompassing of other identities that are not represented strictly by LGBT umbrella (such as an asexual individual, which is not essentially trans, bi, gay, or lesbian). While there are several other variants, LGBTQ or LGBT+ seems indirectly inclusive of the A (agender/aromantic/ace), I (intersex), P (pansexual), H (hijra/HIV-positive), D (demisexual/demiromantic/demigender), N (non-binary/non-conforming), etc. while not mentioning a bunch of letters into one acronym. While LGBT is simple, LGBTQ is simpler in the sense of inherence and belonging. — Tazuco PICOL icon Mail.svg 23:34, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Metro Bilbao → Bilbao metro – "Metro Bilbao" is the name of the company that operates lines 1 and 2. The system as a whole is commonly known as "Bilbao metro" ("Metro de Bilbao" in Spanish, "Bilboko metroa" in Basque). Since this would be a descriptive title, the "m" in "metro" should probably go in lowercase (as in Stockholm metro). In case the move goes ahead, the articles about the lines and the stations would have to be moved too. Santi2222 (talk) 22:30, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "The minister of Sports, Roxana Maracineanu". sports.gouv.fr (in French). Retrieved 2022-05-21.
  2. ^ "Déclaration de Mme Roxana Maracineanu, ministre des sports, lors de la présentation du guide "Sport de Haut niveau et maternité, c'est possible", Paris le 18 février 2022". vie-publique.fr (in French). Retrieved 2022-05-21.
  3. ^ "Recherche". Ministère de l'Education Nationale et de la Jeunesse (in French). Retrieved 2022-05-21.
  4. ^ "Statement on Russia's war on Ukraine & international sport". GOV.UK. Retrieved 2022-05-21.
  5. ^ "Décret n° 2020-967 du 31 juillet 2020". www.legifrance.gouv.fr. Retrieved 2022-05-21.
  6. ^ "Une nouvelle aide sectorielle accordée aux centres équestres et aux poney clubs recevant du public". agriculture.gouv.fr (in French). Retrieved 2022-05-21.
  7. ^ "Grands événements sportifs internationaux (GESI) : Lancement du label « Terrain d'égalité »". Ministère chargé de l'égalité entre les femmes et les hommes, de la diversité et de l'égalité des chances (in French). Retrieved 2022-05-21.
– Aeengath (talk) 12:01, 21 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 13:05, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Simon and Martina → Eatyourkimchi – Article was originally titled "Eatyourkimchi" and there was plenty of coverage using that. They rebranded as Simon and Martina (with appropriate coverage as well) since 2016, but they have returned to using "Eatyourkimchi" in 2020. lullabying (talk) 00:54, 20 May 2022 (UTC) lullabying (talk) 00:54, 20 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 13:04, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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References

  1. ^ "Ingrooves". Ingrooves Music Group. Retrieved 23 March 2022.
  2. ^ "Ingrooves Music Group Expands Into Iceland With Acquisition Of Alda Music, The Country's Leading Distributor And Popular Music Label". Ingrooves Music Group. Retrieved 23 March 2022.
  3. ^ Paine, Andre (12 February 2019). "UMG to acquire Ingrooves, set to expand global distribution business". Music Week. Retrieved 21 March 2022.
– Whitman263 (talk) 18:22, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • (Discuss) – Kharkiv Collegium → Kharkov Collegium – The discussion was closed before we reached consensus. I wanted to write a detailed answer but I was in a trip for three days. Please consider this request as part of the discussion that ended unexpectedly. Today I am writing a detailed comment on the last reply of my opponent. Ушкуйник (talk) 10:28, 16 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 02:48, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Rainbow High (dolls) → Rainbow High – This article is fits perfectly with the more simpler title. As confusing as this sounds, this topic's notability and verifiability should not be an issue at all. Should this move not materialize, I'll understand and find other routes to better present this. Millions are searching this on Wikipedia as at now — I included — and they got to the wrong location. Intrisit (talk) 19:20, 16 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 22:56, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Melakha → 39 Melakhot – Seconded. What the heck is this move? The resulting sentence makes no sense whatsoever. This is a mistake. While we could say "Melakha is prohibited work on the Sabbath, of which there are 39 types (39 Melakhot)" and be grammatically correct, the previous name was better. GordonGlottal (talk) 21:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:15, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Yuri Kim (ambassador) → Yuri Kim – Kim Jong-il was reportedly known as Yuri Kim while living in Khabarovsk, Russia during World War II. He never used or acknowledged that name publicly, North Korean biographies omit any mention that he ever lived in Russia, and he is not regularly known by the name internationally either. That is to say, anyone who might know that KJI was once known as Yuri Kim, also knows that he was better known as KJI. Meanwhile the subject of this article is publicly known by the name, which is her given Korean name. 67.180.143.89 (talk) 05:35, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Fast Break Fury → Rochester RazorSharks – This would reverse a page move from November so that a new article can be written about the Fast Break Fury. No reliable sources have been presented (nor found with a search) that indicate that the Fast Break Fury is a renamed version of the Rochester RazorSharks. Powers T 18:30, 16 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:20, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – What's Going On (Marvin Gaye song) → What's Going On (song) – Page views indicate that the Marvin Gaye song is far and away the primary song, receiving more views in any given day than the other songs with the same name get in a month put together. There are also several cover versions discussed in the article, which may make it confusing for users looking for those without knowing the original artist. Turnagra (talk) 00:44, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Ruby Ridge → ? – Siege of Ruby Ridge The area itself isn't notable. The siege/standoff that occurred there is. Ruby Ridge is just another patch of land if the siege hadn't happened. The article should reflect this, maybe changing some sections around in order to fit the new name. Cheers! Fakescientist8000 14:22, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Thalía → Thalía (singer) – per balance of WP:CRITERIA, visually non-distinctive from the Thalia dab page, restore parenthetical disambiguation but leave bare name Thalía as primary redirect. The tiny accent on i not visible to many readers and many English non-high MOS quality sources such as pop webpages can't show the accent. Reader unfriendly. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:57, 8 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 15:25, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Sisodias of Mewar → List of Ranas of Mewar – Currently, this page consists of :
    * History **Conflicts with the Mughals **Under British Raj **Post-Independence *List of Maharanas
    The Udaipur State page also consists of the same structure but also includes information about the Guhila dynasty. So this page must be made an exclusive page for the list, hence must be Renamed and all the other information in this page will be Merged the Udaipur State. >>> Extorc.talk 06:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 06:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Reverse sexism → Discrimination against men – I suggest renaming this article to Discrimination against men. The reasons are: The controversy of the term "reverse sexism". The term "reverse sexism" raises big questions among both masculists and feminists. Nathansong and Young criticize it in their book Sanctifying Misandry: Goddess Ideology and the Fall of Man. A highly respected profeminist sociologist Fred Pincus in Reverse Discrimination: Dismantling the Myth is clearly distinguishing reverse discrimination against men (only some illegal pseudo-affirmative acts) and intentional discrimination against men (pp. 121-140). Volumetric scientific works about sexism against men called Discrimination against men, for example, the dissertation of Pasi Malmi who doesn't use plaintly the term reverse sexism. In Russian language there is a Belarusian book "Дискриминация мужчин как проблемный вопрос общественных отношений". There are no current reliable sources which analise discrimination against men in details using the term reverse sexism. Aman Siddiqui doesn't use the term reverse sexism. Wikipedia should follow scientific literature. The term is obviously out of date. So, I think that the arcticle needs to be renamed to Discrimination against men.--Reprarina (talk) 02:11, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Battle of the Siverskyi Donets → 2022 Donets incident near Bilohorivka – The Donets river (its article is titled Donets in Wikipedia, not Siverskyi Donets) has been crossed by Russian forces before, near Izium and near Kharkiv. See the map of the invasion we have on Commons [20]. Thus, this article's name is inappropriate, and readers who haven't heard of this story might not be able to realize whether this is a general article about engagements in the river during the invasion or not. Also, this was not a battle, Russian and Ukrainian forces did not directly fight each other. So I propose this title which I believe is more precise both in location and in time. I've had several other ideas, such as "2022 attempted Russian crossing of the Donets near Bilohorivka", "2022 Donets river incident near Bilohorivka", "8–11 May 2022 Donets incident" and "8–11 May 2022 attempted Russian crossing of the Donets", but I believe "2022 Donets incident near Bilohorivka" is both the shortest and the most precise title we can get. Super Ψ Dro 16:27, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Codfish Island → Codfish Island / Whenua Hou – In recent sources, the island is almost exclusively referred to with a dual name in some capacity (be that with an unspaced slash, just a space, hyphenated, comma,parentheses and spaced slash, with the order of the names varying. While this makes any form of meta-analysis even more difficult than usual, it should be clear from the outset that the dual name is frequently used, with each component name also used interchangeably with no clear preference of one over the other. As such, the dual name provides the most opportunity for a reader to find the island they are thinking of, whether they know it as the dual name, Codfish Island, or Whenua Hou. Per WP:NZNC guidelines, we should use the spaced slash format and the order as established in the gazetteer, which is what is proposed in this move. Turnagra (talk) 04:56, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Military of Afghanistan → Military history of Afghanistan – Now that the Taliban have mastered the Afghan army, the Afghan military should be changed to Afghan military history like other countries to describe the military of Afghanistan in different eras, such as Military history of the United States or Military history of India Бмхүн (talk) 19:14, 3 May 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 14:35, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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