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Hello everyone! Coming from wb:de.

Pages that use score are expected to be in the tracking category "Score-use-category". But they only are after an edit, which isn't that big of a deal for a new wiki, but for an existing one it's inconvenient. A wild guess by me is score was used before the category existed (compare Phab:T219603). I looked at Help:Tracking_categories trying to shed some light on the problem. Just to find, that the category isn't even listed there, let alone an explanation if (that?) tracking categories are only used when a wiki-page is published. So:

• I wasn't able to correct the help page, because of lack of deeper knowledge of mediawiki,
• the talk page Help talk:Tracking_categories doesn't seem to be in use quite a bit, bit I think this topic is somewhat important (at least to know how to handle those situations), so I came here,
• I'm not sure, if a task on Phabricator makes sense, because I'm suspecting everything is as it's supposed to be, just causing inconvenience as a side effect,
• I don't expect there to be a "automated" solution to the initial problem, but at least I wanted to raise awareness.

Anyways help, if possible, would be greatly appreciated and if there's anything I can do to help, let me know. Thanks and best regards, HirnSpuk

I added that (and the other undocumented Ext:Score tracking category, score-deprecated-category) to Help:Tracking categories for you. Unfortunately I can't really help with the category only being added to pages after they're edited, but I would definitely recommend you file a Phabricator task about it - worst that happens is the task is declined as expected behavior (or just an issue that won't be fixed).

Existing pages don't get the tracking category automatically, if the tracking category didn't exist when the page was last edited. That's expected.

To add the tracking category, all pages should be reparsed, which is a very expensive operation.

When this situation happens, the best way to deal with it is to use the standard search function to grab a list of pages using a specific tag o parser function, and then run a bot to do a null edit on all those pages.

Thanks for all the help and the insight. Then I'll restrain from using phabricator. I expected a bot would be able to do the job. Thanks again, best regards, HirnSpuk

I wanted to report a bug via Phabricator, but<br/>

It seems that, if I want to log in to '''Mediawiki''' I need a different account than '''Wikipedia'''.

If this is so, why does '''Mediawiki''' need a different account than '''Wikipedia'''?

en.wikipedia / User:Steue

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It doesn't, wikipedia and mediawiki wiki are part of the SUL login environment, If you weren't automatically logged in via centralauth, You may just need to login again.

Phabricator is not powered by MediaWiki so it features its own authentication system, but we Use oAuth (the "Login with MediaWiki" button) so it will use the your SUL account details.

For more information on how to create a phabricator account, See Special:MyLanguage/Phabricator/Help#Creating_your_account

On https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Creating_your_account the sub-chapter "Using your global wiki account", first asterisk-entry (bullited entry) reads: First, make sure you are [logged in] to Wikimedia. This link [logged in] leads to exactly the same page on which this link is located. Not a helpful link, to me. Steue (talk) 03:58, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

That is because you are already signed into a Mediawiki Wiki, Which is apart of the Wikimedia Single User Login environment.

Steue (talk) 03:30, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

This was answered in your first topic on this page: Topic:Wuqxd042gogse0sj

Probably other Mediawiki pages don't have such a button either.

The Wikipedia pages do have a [Log in] button at the top.

When I'm not logged in to a Wikipedia and get to this Mediawiki page Phabricator/Help, all this Mediawiki page offers, is a [Create account] button.

But I have seen before: when I'm logged in to a wikipedia and get to this Mediawiki page, my user name appears in the top right corner.

So it would be nice to have such a [Log in] button at the top of all Mediawiki pages too.

en.wikipedia / User:Steue

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I had seen this field [Edit description] but, to me, it was not clear, what this meant.

Meanwhile I just tried it, and below/behind this field/button [Edit description] was ! the desired log in button.

Is it really neccessary that these pages from Mediawiki function so differently from Wikipedia pages ?

Steue (talk) 02:58, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

The login button is hidden under the … drop down menu in the vector22 skin for some reason, which seems very counter intuitive, I will see if there is a task about and if not raise it.

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