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As epidemiologists we should help people that want to protest to minimise the risks they face, rather than lecturing people who are feeling great anger and pain about social distancing, which has already been sabotaged in the name of profit. We should aid the fight for justice.
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Put plainly, you are financially compelled to be exposed to infection to make profits for someone else, but you are not permitted to expose yourself to infection to protest the fact that the police can and frequently do murder people with no repercussions
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Will the protests affect R? The thing is, social distancing in the UK is already undermined to a large extent. People have been sent back to work, children have been sent back to school. These have a delayed impact that we are beginning to observe now: R is rising towards 1.pic.twitter.com/Gv300Lyq0E
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The systemic racism that the BLM movement is seeking is to end causes profound (and frequently lethal) material harm to black people + communities in the UK, US, and around the world. Previous progress has been achieved through organised, sustained direct action including marches
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As an epidemiologist working on
#COVID19, do I support the#BlackLivesMatterUK protests? Short answer: yes (resources on how to minimise risk to yourself and others: https://twitter.com/daliagebrial/status/1268589515918147585 …) Long answer:Visa denna trådTack. Twitter använder detta för att förbättra din tidslinje. ÅngraÅngra -
Joel Hellewell Retweetade
1. Many people have asked me whether the ongoing Black Lives Matter protests around the country pose a risk of increasing coronavirus spread. As a scientist, I acknowledge that they may. As a citizen, I wholeheartedly support the protests nonetheless.
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Amazing that Andy Burnham is sharing work that I'm involved in. Horrible that said work is saying that we are sliding back over the cliff edge. Guess I know how climate scientists feel all the time now...https://twitter.com/AndyBurnhamGM/status/1268646230151888896 …
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The crisis is just business as usual for capitalists with markets to open uphttps://twitter.com/rachshabi/status/1268624800307699712 …
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Good thread on the difference between serial and generation intervals. Lessons to be carried forward! https://twitter.com/sang_woo_park/status/1268642262516367369 …
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Joel Hellewell Retweetade
Where is justice for Belly Mujinga?https://twitter.com/bbcscotlandnews/status/1267896287262801922 …
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You can easily judge the sincerity of calls to stop protesting for
#BlackLivesMatter due to the need for social distancing on the basis of whether that person said anything when manual workers were forced back to workTack. Twitter använder detta för att förbättra din tidslinje. ÅngraÅngra -
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The methods behind our
#COVID19 time-varying R estimates website are now up on@WellcomeOpenRes and awaiting peer review! Paper: https://wellcomeopenresearch.org/articles/5-112/v1 … Site:http://epiforecasts.io/covidVisa denna trådTack. Twitter använder detta för att förbättra din tidslinje. ÅngraÅngra -
Joel Hellewell Retweetade
Racist violence and police murder are inherent to capitalism. It will be around until we get rid of capitalism. Knowing this is also key to finding short term ways that we can collectively get some semblance of more immediate reprisal 4 these injustices Follow me for a second
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I understand the concern about an escalating R rate, but not appreciating the tone of judgement against those who have gone out to protest. The fact black people have had to leave their homes during a global pandemic to protest is an injustice in itself
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Seeing as lots of people are starting to read this, I should add that I don't think this is an irredeemable approach or bit of work. I'd be interested in spending more time looking at the direct causal modelling approach one day in the future when I have spare time.
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It's not ideal that the resistant population parameter was added to make the model fit data properly and was justified post-hoc with a bunch of phenomena that we do not have any idea whether they exist to any meaningful extent.
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Realistically what proportion of the UK is completely socially isolated and makes no contact with the outside world? Until immunological data emerges on the potential for cross immunity and it's prevalence in the UK population, how much do we rely on the inferred resistant pop?
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That nearly 4 in 10 people in the UK wont play any part in the outbreak is a huge claim. That we don't have to worry about an immediate second wave, based on the inferred existence of such a population is pretty risky.
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Theoretically this is fair enough, these factors may well exist to some extent. But the resistant populations estimated by the model are: 38% in the UK, 58% in Germany, ~30% in US states. These huge resistant populations play a large role in the claim of no second wave.
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