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The problem with EU4 colonization is how UNrewarding it is
r/eu4

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The problem with EU4 colonization is how UNrewarding it is

Colonization is actually underpowered and overpowered at the same time in EU4. It is underpowered because the amount of investment required to get a colonial empire going is huge, but the reward is disappointing - until you own an entire continent and it suddenly becomes OP.

Historically, colonies - especially those in strategic locations and producing exotic goods - were extremely valuable, to the point where a tiny island colony could power the economy of entire empires. The French Caribbean sugar plantations accounted for 1/4 of the French treasury's tax revenue pre-Napoleon. The spices from Portugal's Indian trade ports single-handedly turned Portugal from an insignificant backwater into an economic superpower. But the immense value of those colonies aren't represented in EU4 at all. In EU4, French Haiti or Portuguese Malabar is just another boring piece of land that produces like 0.2 ducats per month and not much else. If they had the same impact in game as they did in history, the Caribbean plantations should have crazy goods produced, like the Swedish Dalaskogen copper mine on steroids, and the Indian trade ports should give you insane trade power all over Europe. For the price you pay to become a colonizer - investing money, idea slots and opportunity cost in terms of expansion - all you get is a handful of low development provinces that pay back far less money than you put in.

The way EU4 devs decided to balance colonization to make the Iberians feel fun to play was not to buff the rewards from colonization, but to make colonization super easy and fast for the Iberians with tons of colonization speed bonuses. So, the fact that you got a bunch of shitty land from colonization didn't change, but at least you got a vast quantity of worthless land. In essense, Paradox decided to reward colonizers with quantity instead of quality. And also they made colonial subjects scale very quickly, so that they contributed huge amounts of money and manpower once they stabilized.

The way EU4 should 'fix' colonization is by making colonization slower, but in return they should make colonizing a lot more rewarding if you can get to certain key provinces such as strategic ports or spice islands. Spain and Portugal in particular should not be allowed to paint the entire map before their competitors can even get colonial range to see the new world. Their colonization bonuses should be time-gated and region locked so they can colonize the Atlantic side of the Americas quickly, but they slow down once they're done with Mexico, Caribbean, Brazil, Argentina etc.





Wait what? This is a JUNGLE?! An ice... jungle? Is there some convoluted warhammer book reason for this?
r/totalwar

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Wait what? This is a JUNGLE?! An ice... jungle? Is there some convoluted warhammer book reason for this?
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Despite being one of the dull DLC/update, I just want to appreciate whoever did the visuals for making it genuinely appear nasty
r/CrusaderKings

Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Development Studio. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in mediæval Europe, Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. Can you achieve fame and fortune for your noble family, or will your names be forgotten to history?


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Despite being one of the dull DLC/update, I just want to appreciate whoever did the visuals for making it genuinely appear nasty
r/CrusaderKings - Despite being one of the dull DLC/update, I just want to appreciate whoever did the visuals for making it genuinely appear nasty

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