This is a subreddit about "The Grand Tour", Amazon's car show hosted by former BBC Top Gear presenters: Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May.
The Grand Tour Game - Discussion thread
This is a thread for overall discussion of The Grand Tour Game. Posts about the game are not specifically disallowed, but it's recommended you keep small discussion about the game here.
Basic info:
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The game has been released a few hours ago.
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TGTG is available as a digital download for PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. You can buy it on each platform's store or a code on Amazon.
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The price is $14.99 / €14.99 / £11.99.
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The game includes S01E01 and S02E01. All episodes of S03 will be added after their Prime Video release, with remaining episodes of S01 and S02 possibly being added in the future.
Gameplay (I haven't played, just watched and read a bit):
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Single player: you watch the episodes (can fast forward) and every time there's some kind of racing going on, the player drives instead - this can be as one of the presenters, the American, guests, etc.
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Split-screen multiplayer, up to 4 players: I didn't see much, looks like mostly racing.
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Graphics look surprisingly good.
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Physics look incredibly arcade-y, think old NFS games. Some races have stuff like powerups, this is definitely not a game that's even trying to be in any way realistic, but more of a realistic-looking Mario Kart alternative.
It's got issues, but I'm having fun with it. Some extremely frustrating bits tonight included watching Jeremy's car rocket off hundreds of meters ahead of me, and having my daughter beat both me and my son in a race at the eboladrome without her using her brakes once.
Reading the comments after my own expereince, that Race as hammond vs Jeremy is not easy in the slightest. Best I can do is Silver, and even that was after 15 restarts atleast. (Im not joking, i tried very hard not to hit him (causing my car to crash) or him hit me.. causing my car to crash.. his car is a tank. :/
Likely had to rush it a bit because of the season 3 launch, but hopefully they stick with it, update it. (And for the love of god, add content to it..)
I must have done about fifty tries to beat Jeremy but in the end got a stroke of luck. Basically, I rammed his car against the wall and made it crash which allowed me to get the gold. This is the only way I think it could work.
Thanks for the advice. Just nailed it. 309 meters infront by the finish line.
But jesus that rubber banding. Top was 400meters and within seconds like a rocket it rose to the 300ish mark when i passed the finish line.
I think its a fair price point.
The challenges are varied and fun, tho not hard at all to get gold and the idea of having play-by-play gameplay of the episodes is a very good idea for this. The graphics are also pretty good.
The main issue being there isn't that much content right now, only EP1 of S1 and S2 available with the entire S3 to come afterwards. The split-screen stuff can also be played as single-player and that's where you would spend most your time outside the episodes themselves. That, particularly, is missing a bit of content as you can only choose 3 tracks so far and they're all from Episode 1 of Season 1.
The handling is also a bit weird, its arcade-y fun but seems to have some sort of input delay that makes the steering feel very heavy. You can get used to it but on slow, tight corners will give you an headache.
This game was always going to target their demographic: people who watch the show but don't play many video-games or take them seriously. It's pure, arcade fun like the old Need For Speeds. Which is good because we rarely get arcade games with the market saturated with "sims" and "sim-cades".
The price point is good and if you're a fan of the show, it's worth it. Online will also release soon I believe (?).
TIP! Split-screen multiplayer can also be done with AI. So you just wanna race with the car of your liking, choose that mode!
Can you select the preorder cars in that mode?
Yes
I preordered the game and the cars haven’t shown up for me. What should I do?
Try license restore on PS4, if that doesn't help contact support. If your on Xbox, you should contact support.
It’s quite good. Graphics are better than i expected and I definitely got a mario kart vibe off of it. Also it doesn’t include conversation street or celebrity things, only driving/challenge content. Also includes a link to watch the full video (requires prime video app + subscription, obviously).
Well I got shafted out of the preorder bonuses thanks to the support. I got charged 33~ since I preordered when it was 29.99 (even when the page said there is a preorder price guarantee). I talked to support, and they told me " As one time exception I will help you with the price match once the order will complete." Next thing I know, the entire price was refunded to me and no key for me.
I guess after talking to support again, they just issued me 10 dollars credit, but it seems like if I buy the game now, I won't get the preorder bounses.
I've enjoyed it so far, only played the first episode of season one up to the race to the town. Anyone have any tips for beating Jeremy on that race? It seems he just blows me out of the water through a straight bit and there's nothing I can do to keep up.
It was worth it for the price point I thought, not something I'll take too seriously.
That race frustrated me so much. I restarted 10 times or more, in the end decided to play through and see if you catch him somewhere near the end. You don't. On the bright side I did get an achievement for a 'toilet finish'.
The best I can get is a silver I have played it so many times . I too got the toilet achievement on this one it’s difficult
I'm really disliking the 'All The Smoke' segment from Season 2. I see smoke pouring out the back of the car and the smoke meter will barely budge.
I did it by doing donuts rather than drifting.
That ended up working me. Which was funny because the donuts produced no a spec of smoke but hey got the gold.
Yea, all the challenges with meters to fill are weird. The new decibel one, the fizz, the smoke, etc.
The new "fizz" challenge for Season 3 is especially touchy.
Speed and no contact got the gold for me Before getting to a turn press drift when you see the yellow barrel and slow down into the turn and accelerate out
I just drove around 75-100 MPH throughout the course and the 5th one filled up just before I crossed the finish line.
I think it is impossible to get gold on the fizz challenge for season 3
I just got it.
How, just how
I watched this video
From what I saw - it looks like the most obvious cash grab, in the world. Its on the same level as every other generic cash grab mobile game. I would not recommend this at all - it is not worth anybody's time.
If you are looking for a good arcade racer, just buy Forza Horizon 4. It has no story whatsoever to speak of, but from a game mechanical stand-point, its the best arcade racer I've seen yet.
A Top Gear/The Grand Tour expansion for FH4 would have been perfect. The game is even set in GB.
Pretty much. It would have been a huge hit for both amazong and microsoft.
But amazon wanted to make that quick cash, so they just paid some random dev a couple thousand dollars to make a generic car game and put their audio/cutscenes in.
Few thousands to car manufacturers to use their brand and wolla - practically 0 R&D costs and ready to make millions off of unsuspecting fans.
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How is it not a quick cash grab? Have you looked at the game?
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Wow amazon wasted a ton of time and money on this game...
which doesnt mean that they arent random or were paid any significant amount.
Just because they developed the engine for years doesnt add that cost to the game. This game was developed in no more than 2 months at most.
How so? Big Name IPs spend tens, if not hundreds, of millions on their games. Amazon probably didnt even spend 100k.
Are you kidding me? They only need to sell ~6500 copies to break even. There is no way it wont be profitable.
No shit I dont like it. Have you even seen the game? It has the 2012 mobile graphics and shitty controls. It has no story or mechanics to speak of and the only thing it does have is cutscenes from the episodes that you've already seen. There is nothing worth anybody's time in this game.
Furthermore, I dont know if you've heard, but the internet exists and you can watch gameplay of the game at any point by just opening google.
Take a look in the mirror.
The problem is that, as much better as FH4 is compared to this, their target demographic isn't going to buy it.
This game tries to hit the people who watch the show but don't play many video games nor do they take them seriously. It's mostly people who don't know what FH4 is nor will never know. Specially considering this is only TGT content, which is what their demographic want, not having to deal with the rest of FH4's content.
Whether the executions was done well or not is something we disagree on but this is a smart way of making the grand tour game, specially for 15€.
It's because Amazon developed their own game engine (yes, I'm not even lying) so they pushed TGT into this rather than licensing with Forza.
...and also an Xbox One. No thanks, I'm good.
The game is available on pc. I wouldnt recommend a console game.
Not to pat myself on the back but I knew this game was gonna be no good the second I heard it was going to exist.
No way that a game tied to a TV show like this is ever gonna get proper development. They take an engine from another game and modify it... Which is almost always a recipe for a poorly playing cash grab.
I agree with the other person who said it should have been a forza extension.
Amazon knows how loyal/devoted fans of the Holy Trio are and have every intention of mining $$$ out of us. As soon as I saw that shit trailer I knew I wouldn’t spend a cent on this
The input lag is killing me. Hope they patch it.
I’m not disappointed because I wasn’t expecting much, but come on, the game is blatantly bad. The controls are horrible, very very bad even for a cheap racing game. It’s impossible to do a perfect lap because of it. The graphics are just the same as a free mobile game (well, there are racing mobile games that look better), and the gameplay is... well the local mutiplayer can be fun for a few minutes, but the single player is bad. I like the concept behind it, playing the things they do on the show, but the bad controls added with you replaying the same race over again but with a different car ends up being boring even considering that the game has like 30 minutes max of gameplay.
That's a bit harsh in my opinion.
Yes the handling is messed up, but the idea is cool, the game looks "good enough" with cars that have nice details and tracks that are sufficiently good to not draw negative attention to themselves. It's not Driveclub or Gran Turismo but it's also not that Monster motocross on the Switch that's a blurry disgrace (it's fun but looks really bad). Content wise we should probably wait to judge until the third season is over and everything will be there, but this time gating is annoying.
Really, my only issues so far are with the handling and whatever is going on with the audio mix as it's quite low volume. Sadly the handling thing is not a secondary detail but the core of the game. The budget price would make it a game I'd actually recommend otherwise :(
Let's hope they pull off a Driveclub and fix it post release!
It’s what I said, the game is fun when played in local multiplayer, and the concept of “playing the show” is good, but the handling is very, very bad. And it’s hard to oversee it because it’s the core of the game.
And I doubt they are going to do a Driveclub post-launch. That game is a triple A with very experienced developers behind it, while TGT game is pretty cheap and obviously done as a cash-grab, and the developer team is probably dismantled by now, so don’t expect Amazon putting more money on it.
So you think they skipped the fixing bits and fast forwarded to dismantling the team? That'd be a shame because within the limits of a budget title it has potential :(
The development team has not been dismantled. They are still all at it and working very hard.
This. So much this. The Grand Tour is done to such high spec, that I thought for a game we would receive a game in the same vein as that. I was sorely disappointed. A waste of my money, but live and learn, only trust reputable games publishers.
Handling is literally nfs underground except the handbrake is “drift”. So even if you feel it’s dated and horrible, it should definitely be spread to r/needforspeed for a dose of realism regarding their series I think.
Nice concept tho. If the handling comes more in-line with forza horizon in the future this could actually be super cool.
This guy knows what's up! I tried to go full throttle and ignore the brake in favor of the drift button: much more control on the car, worst case scenario just let go for a moment the throttle. Really, the drifting is done in a good way and the way they meant the game to be played. For everyone having complaints or issues about the handling, this is what we've been doing wrong! Man I like this game, now devs if you see this please fix the audio mix, at least on the PS4 it's super low volume.
This was what i found, couldn’t break into and around a corner, but could drift in and around.
(Annoyingly i hate drifting..)
I look forwards to playing later. I'm in the US and don't get it for another ~10 hours - 9:00pm iirc, but that doesn't mean I won't check when I get home.
I wasn't going to get it for 30 bucks, but for $12.50 after the discounted gift cards I used it's certainly worth a shot. If it's well done I certainly think it'll be fun, it's a new, fresh idea.
I am playing it it is 2:35 EST.
The store must've been lying. I'll be checking it out when I get home for sure.
Can't seem to find any reviews of this game. To those that have played it, is it any good.
The controls seem to have a lot of filters applied to the point i struggled predicting what the car would do. Not helped by the fact you can't change deadzones etc.
The AI rubberbands. A lot.
You are locked to chase cam which i hate personally as it's totally at odds with hood/cockpit that i usually use (could explain controller issues to some extent).
Dialogue abysmal.
Graphics aren't great but suffice for the price point.
I can see why Amazon dropped the price as i could see uproar if they charged what they originally planned on charging.
The lack of cockpit view is almost certainly due to cost/time limitations. Between modeling and texturing it takes 100+ man hours to produce an asset similar to Forza, Project CARS or the like.
Source: Me, I do this exact thing for a living.
How long do you reckon it'd of taken to give us a few external angles. Seems like some of the down hill sections visibility is cut down to nil haha.
I can fully understand that. As a throwaway game to partner the series it's fun. It's just a shame other racing games have spoilt me rotten.
Personally, I think it would have been smarter to make this a mobile only game. That could cut costs enough and would literally allow people to play along with the show. Plus I don't think it would make sense for cockpit view on mobile so they would get a clear pass there.
I still don't understand how you're supposed to play the game in conjunction with the show, like, do you have to pause the show to switch over to the game? How has that worked out for you thus far, going from watching the show to playing the game?
Did first episode just now, fully agree with this. Would recommend too fans and it's really fair priced
EDIT got all got gold in 40minutes playtime, maybe wait for more content before u buy
Super GT completed the whole game in less than hour on live stream while he (and chat) trash talking it all the time. Deservingly so.
I think it's a great idea. Yes there are more realistic driving games (all of them) but the show isn't realistic either. It's about having fun, and imo the arcade handling adds to that. I'm not worried about spinning out cause I accelerated to fast out of a corner, it's just power all the way.
The outbursts when you hit a wall or another car are definitely repetitive and something I wish could be switched off.
Graphics fit the game play, they aren't serious 4K 60fps driving sim graphics. But they aren't that bad that it distracts from the driving.
Price is fair (now) at £11.99 for 15 (eventually) episodes and however many tracks/cars that becomes.
It's a long way from the best driving game. But it's fun, good for a quick race, and well priced.
This Honda NSX Gold took me about an hour. A couple of times I missed by .06 seconds. https://youtu.be/aE1Fxlx0soo
Cool vid. Do you think the driving is fun in a arcade way? That's probably my main gripe
Yes, very arcade feel to the driving
but do you enjoy it? or just "meh"
Meh
What's up with the senna? Exclusive rights or lazy devs? Either way, what's gunna happen later down the line? Imagine a GT special where a exclusive rights car is driven, what would the game do? They can't just keep using S1 and S2 content to fill it in.
What if a company makes it's cars (mostly) exclusive to one publisher? (Like EA with Porsche most famously had)
This game... isn't good. Definitely feels like a mobile game with a fresh coat of paint. It controls like a bad Ridge Racer clone from the late 90s. It wants you to drift and play in a very arcade fashion, but there are so many filtering processes happening between your controller input and what happens on screen that you end up careening around wildly.
Got all the golds on episode one (only got silver on a single event in which it wanted you to win a race by 50 meters -- the AI rubberbands so violently, and so unpredictably, that it took a dozen attempts), will do the next episode later tonight.
Can't say I'm disappointed, as it's a $15 game, but I think they'd have been better off scrapping this altogether. To be fair, though, I'm picky. I've put several hundred hours into Forza Horizon 4, thousands more into the three games that preceded it. I also play every iteration of The Crew and Need for Speed. I'm probably not the target market for this little game.
No joke, drift only. The ai will violently rubber band if you tap a wall, or brake even if braking would make your overall time faster.
I actually found the easiest way to get gold on that "win by 50 meters" challenge is to let the AI lead for about 65% of the race, just following behind, then go for it full bore. It's late enough in the race that the AI doesn't have time to rubberband, so drifting through the last corners and keeping the pedal down had me winning by about 100 meters.
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Which means we are allowed to criticize it. If they are charging money for it, we can say whatever we want about it - and in this case, its pretty much a cash grab mobile game.
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I mean if it were born in the 3rd or 4th month of the pregnancy, or had a genetics disease, yeah it would be pretty bad, which is what this game is.
If you dont care, then why are you here? People care because they are either interested in TGT or in racing video games. If you dont care about either, then you are not the demographic for this product.
I care because I'm both a TGT fan and a video games fan, and when I see that this is a lousy cash grab excuse of a mobile excrement, I'm going to call it as I see it. Just because it has TGT branding on it, doesnt make it good. If it werent TGT branded, you would never even know it existed.
is there an "early access" or "Bata" tag on it?
If no, this is a full release, and the game should be in what they thought was an acceptable final state. If it sucks, it sucks. People buy a game on release for it to be good day one, not because they want to wait for it to be good later.
Certainly potential for future episodes, when released, to be a lot more engaging. The splitscreen is already a lot better than the single player. The controls are a bigger worry, but we'll see what kind of commitment there is to consistent quality updates alongside content additions.
I dont know why you are being downvoted, it clearly has mobile ui and graphics. Its meant to be a mobile game and its not even a good one.
I got The Crew last year, with all expansions & dlc, for $12,50, yet this piece of shit is demanding $15. And then there is FH4. Pretty much the best arcade racer so far. I bought it after playing The Crew and NFS:PB and was mind-blown how much better it was than both of them - in a completely different league.
It's not perfect by no stretch of the imagination, but its miles better than anything else on the market.
I'm sure I got downvoted for coming off harsh, which wasn't my intent but I can see how the comment was interpreted that way. I do think the splitscreen is decent arcade silliness once you get used to the controls, but I'm sure other people will also have some issues with the episodes.
Season 2 Episode 1 is 4 challenges shorter than Season 1 Episode 1, and the first 3 are the same challenge with a car swap that amounts to basically an aesthetic change. And then it does the same thing at the end: Repeat the same short course 3 times in different cars.
I'm optimistic they can add more variety to episodes, less so that they can overhaul the gameplay.
I dont think you were harsh at all. The game is a complete rip off and everyone who is looking into it should know that.
No PC version?
Hahaha.
The mechanics in Season 2 Episode 1 penalties up the swiss timed laps do not apply.
How did that even pass QandA?
When will episode 2 of season 3 be updated on the game? Still only episode 1 on there atm
Have to assume it'll be after tonight's episode, as it's still technically one episode.
I got a reply from the guys on Twitter, you're right it's after part 2 airs
To anyone still reading this thread, they have added more episodes (3 for season 3 so far).
Although the game has its flaws, I think the price point is getting more and more reasonable. Thoroughly enjoyed playing the Columbia special.
Anyone having trouble unlocking the trophies for season 1? I completed it all, got golds on everything first time but haven’t got the trophies. Replayed the last challenge but it hasn’t popped.
Managed to get all golds on season 2 and the trophies popped fine.
I play on Xbox One, have finished both episodes fully on gold, got the notifications of the achievements on my screen but when I browse my achievements, thet don't show up..
Were you online for the whole time? If you got them for season 2 I can't see why they wouldnt work for season 1.
It's good but...
Where the rest of the episodes? I didn't pay for just two episodes (which according to the driving record took less than an hour) and season 3. I paid to play all episodes of season 1, 2 and 3.
Also, these three extra cars seem to be 'local splitscreen' only, so you can only drive them against AI or other player locally.
Finally, where's online multiplayer? The stats mention online AND local split screen, yet no sight of online.
I bet this game will be updatet.
I hope so, I mean it obviously will for all of season 3, but I hope they do the other episodes and a potential online.
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A bit weird then, isn't it? For season 1 and 2, just have a tiny box for the only episode for season 1 and 2.
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Same here. Both Xbox One and PS4. I'm guessing they'll be available after some sort of progression.
Anyone getting input lag?? On PS4 pro?
I was wondering what happened to the rest of season 1 and 2 episodes I hope they had them!
Is there no online multiplayer? (Xbox user, if that makes a difference)
I had played gold in all two seasons and the game did not save?!?
Likewise, I was strangely able to use the pre-order cars, although I was not a pre-orderer.
At least the savegame was gone anyway.
Daaamn this sucks!
For $15, I think it's great for any fan of the game. My son loves the show, so this is like the perfect way for him to re-watch the shows and be able to interact by doing the driving bits.
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Microsoft have the rights for the Senna due to to Forza. Probably for 1 year.
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At least there's a bit between the two segments where James acknowledges that they couldn't put the Senna in the game.
Anyone notice the video quality is not great,? I'm not sure it's 1080, certainly not UHD.
Any way to adjust that?
I'm enjoying it so far, took a bit to get used to drifting but I managed to get it down. Just completed the Season 1 section with all gold, onto Season 2 now.
Edit: Completed Season 2 with all gold in 15 minutes. Completed Season 3 with all gold in 30 minutes.
How many golds do I need to unlock the next episode in season 1? Or am I missing something?
There's only 1 episode of each season right now. Season 3 will be filled out as the episodes come out.
Well thank you and that sucks we should get all of season 1 to start.
Yeah I was led to believe that we'd get all of season 1 and 2, with 3 coming as it was released. Clearly not the case. But apparently after season 3 is finished, season 1 and 2 is going to be worked on, either until they are done or until they find out whats going on with season 4 so they can start on that would be my guess.
They'll likely base doing season 1 and 2 on how many people actually buy the base game.
The intersting bit will be seeing what they do with the more unusual events. So far, every espisode is conveniently normal cars on normal roads... Will they just have episodes with almost no driving content, or will we get to play with the wacky vehicles they end up in?
Assuming they add at least 3 cars and a track every episode and don't wimp out on letting us use the more unusual vehicles and locations, it could be pretty good. Hopefully they go back and do seasons 1 and 2, playing as the Meatmobile or trying to cross the desert in dune buggies would be a good change of pace. Maybe even minigames for some of the big moments.
Assuming 1 track and 3 cars per episode, that'll be almost 20 tracks and a ton of cars just from season 3, not bad for 15 bucks.
Its pretty awful, but then I just picture the three of them in a office designing it and it feels appropriate.
Been thinking of starting a video review channel and as a first attempt I made a video review of my thoughts on the game. Would be grateful if people checked it out :)
Very fun game and only a couple of quid!! People crying it's not like Forza, it never was going to be or supposed to be, fuck sake the game is the price of two cups of coffee from Costa!!
I enjoyed it, for the price you can't go wrong. It's fun and interactive, if you're looking for something that handles like a car game , this isn't it though.
The game itself is a nice idea, although it lacks content (Season 1 and 2? Why only one episode each?) and the handling is pretty much the worst I've ever seen. Drifting makes it a bit better, although at slow speeds the cars handle horrible (Eboladrome...)
A bit more tuning would've been necessary in that regard
Game Crashed on Sea to Unsalty Sea at RIM on Xbox One S during video sequence. Going to resume did resolve this it was a soft crash back to dashboard.
Personally, I am not interested, I would be if they created Patagonia Special, Bolivia Special, Africa Special, i dont give a fuck about driving supercars, and i have absolute zero interest in them, or racing
PC Master Race left out of due to console peasant exclusiveness. Le Sigh.
Can I still play it somewhere?