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Y'all ever seen this scene of Taylor's in the Cats movie? Omg. The changing accent. The attempts at "sexy"(?) dance movies. The song being totally out of her vocal range. This is pure, unadulterated cringe.
r/travisandtaylor

Welcome to Taylor Swift Snark! We’re here to critically discuss and snark on Taylor Swift, her PR moves (where Travis comes in), and her all around questionable behavior. Swifties not welcome! (Unfortunately we cannot change the name of our sub)


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Y'all ever seen this scene of Taylor's in the Cats movie? Omg. The changing accent. The attempts at "sexy"(?) dance movies. The song being totally out of her vocal range. This is pure, unadulterated cringe.

Thoughts?
r/travisandtaylor

Welcome to Taylor Swift Snark! We’re here to critically discuss and snark on Taylor Swift, her PR moves (where Travis comes in), and her all around questionable behavior. Swifties not welcome! (Unfortunately we cannot change the name of our sub)


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Thoughts?
r/travisandtaylor - Thoughts?




the most bizarre headline
r/SwiftlyNeutral

A neutral sub for casual listeners to full blown stans to discuss controversial topics about or involving Taylor Swift. "Neutral" in this sub means most opinions are typically welcome even if you have an unpopular opinion. The mod team allows most posts including but not limited to criticisms of Taylor. If this doesn't work for you we suggest you try the main sub r/TaylorSwift. This is not a circlejerk sub either. You can find that at r/swiftiecirclejerk.


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the most bizarre headline
r/SwiftlyNeutral - the most bizarre headline



Well, it’s over.
r/travisandtaylor

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Well, it’s over.

One of my close friends is a Swiftie. Over the last two years she’s gone progressively deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole. Every time we hang she inevitably brings up Taylor. When we listen to music we always listen to Taylor, and on the handful of occasions we listen to other artists, Taylor still pops into the playlist. She has Taylor Swift art, and takes days off of work to listen to her newest albums over and over and over again.

And it bothered me, but I let it slide because I care about her. I made her moss art in the style of the moss piano from the tour. I gave her Taylor Swift themed gifts, and even suggested we get tickets to the tour since it mattered to my friend so much. She told me I needed to plan the whole trip since “it was my suggestion” and she’s “bad at planning.”

But last night I hit my wall. She mentioned Dave Grohl so I countered with the fact that I give him a pass for his comments because I feel for his daughter. She knew nothing of the situation and when I explained it, scoffed and said the following arguments:

  • Dave started it first, "unprovoked", and he’s like 45 years old bullying a young woman (uhhh Taylor is 34, she’s not a young vulnerable woman)

  • you just hate Taylor for her success (I never mentioned anything about her success) -Taylor didn’t DO anything. She didn’t attack this person so why does she have to do anything?

  • Taylor isn’t responsible for her fans, no artist is. Would you blame Ariana for the guy that shot up her concert in Manchester (WTF?!?)

  • this never happened because I haven’t seen any comments like that and therefore you’re making it up

  • I know more about Taylor and her fans than you do And the piece de resistance -

  • it’s his daughters fault for saying something mean about Taylor on the internet. I don’t care if she’s an 18 year old she’s a “LITTLE TWAT” who shouldn’t be saying stuff on the internet and that “LITTLE TWAT” doesn’t deserve any sympathy

I just sat there in shock. It was horrifyingly cruel. I’ve been bullied in my life when I was younger and empathize strongly with Dave’s daughter and can’t imagine what she’s going through. My friend just saw my face and developed into telling me I was attacking HER because I was criticizing Taylor. That i didnt know what friend had been through in life and the sufferings she had and my life and suffering couldnt compare (note, my friend has gone through a lot, i dont deny that. But ive been through a lot myself that she doesnt know about because Im always afraid people will judge me and im ashamed of it, so for her to tell me that really stung and I cant trust her).

I shouldnt have said anything. I should have tried to keep my mouth shut like I try usually to do. But I was so tired of it. So tired of the bullshit. Now she wont talk to me and I have no idea what to say. Im not going to apologize - I never attacked my friend even if she delusionally believes I did because I criticized Taylor Swift. But if I dont apologize, she will never talk to me again. She cares more about a popstar who doesnt even know her than a person standing right next to her who loves and cares for her. It hurts. I dont want to continue to be a doormat. Im tired of apologizing to people when Ive done nothing wrong - it's a pattern Ive fallen into with abusive relationships and friendships. But my friend cares more about Taylor Swift than she cares about me. And that hurts.



My theory on why Taylor doesn't do interviews too often
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Welcome to Taylor Swift Snark! We’re here to critically discuss and snark on Taylor Swift, her PR moves (where Travis comes in), and her all around questionable behavior. Swifties not welcome! (Unfortunately we cannot change the name of our sub)


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My theory on why Taylor doesn't do interviews too often

It's not because she's "famous enough to not need the promo", but because her team realized this new intellectual image they crafted 4 years ago is exposed any time she speaks. It's one thing when her people have control over cuts/edits such as her documentary and the studio pond sessions, but she can't help but say unintelligent things otherwise. Things that make one question if she is even that involved in her own writing process.

https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1d50evf/comment/l6ierxw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1d50evf/comment/l6j4m53/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

For example, in her Time's POTY interview she refers to Reputation as 'Goth-punk'. Another example, and a far more embarrassing one that seems famous on this subreddit, is her entire conversation with Martin McDonagh. She came across as a kid with no life experience, no wit, no awareness whatsoever. You could tell Martin knew he was doing charity.

I think a person has to be really stupid to think she's an intellectual. I also think the commonly accepted idea is true: she sells because she is seen as relatable to all bland, average white women. She isn't challenging, she isn't funny, she has no rhythm, she isn't smart.


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