r/StarWarsTheorySub

I'll start by saying:

1. I don't like the majority of Disney star wars either, and I don't hold anything against SWT's opinions on the new shit at all. I disagree sometimes, and I agree sometimes.

2. I'm not actually some wokie communist who hates white men, and thinks minorities can do no wrong. I'm just a regular guy, with what I think are reasonable moral foundations. If I say something is racist/sexist/bigoted, then I mean ACTUALLY. I don't get upset at jokes almost ever. Nothing is ever off limits, if you can make it funny. I'm not just calling someone a mean name because I want people to get mad. Some of this shit is verging on Tucker Carlson levels of implicit/explicit racism.

3. I've been thinking sbout this for a long time

Long story short, I haven't really watched much of his content within the past 2 years or so. I check in every couple weeks or so to see if he's posted anything worth watching/ interesting, but it's rare that he has. Lore videos, analysis, discussion, THEORIES, etc. are the reason I started watching in 2018 or so, but I have seen a gradual, yet steady trend towards this weird extremism.

What I mean by that, is some time after he started being super vocal about his dislike of Disney Star Wars, he started vaguely hinting at the "woke-ism". Nothing too crazy at first, if I recall corectly. Kathleen Kennedy and other high ups at Disney/ Star Wars have said some pretty stupid feminist-y shit, even for my lefty taste.

The problem manifests when he starts getting super positive feedback on some of the slightly more political takes/content. He makes more anti-woke content, sometimes verging on sexist/racist talking points or complaints, and starts gaining fans who are THERE FOR THAT now. The comments section/ twitter inevitably becomes an echo chaimber that SWT tucks himself away in, and uses to reassure himself that others agree.

Sometimes he'll make a good point about something that seems like "diversity for diversity's sake", but it doesn't really seem reasonable to get THAT upset about. His opinions get more extreme, because that's what gets the engagement, and he starts to buy into more of the ideology. His fans get more extreme because that's the audience he is attracting.

I'd estimate that about 70% of the comments are "anti-woke" in nature. Not even valid criticism such as them changing a characters canonical race, or pushing an insane woke message. Seems like an insane amount of his fans get mad when any character is black. When any protagonist is a woman. God fucking forbid a protagonist is a black woman. The amount of times I have seen something like "They want to take all white men out of Star Wars" is kinda wild considering how many white men they still put in Star Wars.

The best part is, SWT doesn't HAVE to explicitly say a lot of these more radical things. He uses some vague dog-whistle like "woke" or "diversity" and his fans know what he means.

If he wanted to fight against the explicit bigotry in his community, he would delete comments. Make a statement telling people who say this shit that they are not welcome, and then enforce that policy. He either doesn't care or it's what he wants, because I am certain he reads the comments.

It's a vicious cycle.

Maybe he always had these thoughts, but I sure do miss vids about every Glup Shitto that appeared in a single frame of Revenge of the Sith.

Thanks for reading my schizo post :')

Ok so I honestly didn’t know where else to post this on reddit so feel free to suggest a better place but I have a hunch this might the the place that could potentially help the most.

My biggest personal issue with the sequel trilogy was their at tempt to “fix� the divide in the community using fan fiction bandaids. It clearly didn’t work. Fan fiction can be awesome. It can also be terrible. Who cares, it’s fan fiction.

I think The Acolyte season 2 (if they decide to do it) still has the potential to be a good season and give us stories and characters that would actually merit more shows and movies.

So, I ask to anyone, how can they create a good story for season 2 using the all the pieces from season 1?

This needs to be usable so cutting characters out will only taint the experience of season 2 versus working within the confines of what is already been done. Based on some of the decisions of the writers in the past, I’m willing to bet that they listen to fans and read reddit opinions but they just have no clue how to actually tell a good story with what the fans what. Let’s help them fix it.

So in Episode 6, Leia get's captured when dressed as Boussh. In the Book, it says that she got offered to Boba Fett as a slave "for one night" by Jabba the Hutt, however it isn't mentioned if he acted on it, probably to keep it kid safe. Theoretically, if he acted on it and abused Leia, it means that there's a son/daughter of Leia and Boba around meaning, a grandchild of Anakin Skywalker and Jango Fett. I'm not sure if rpe should be made into an issue in the StarWars Universe. Except for when Hondo Ohnaka captured Ahsoka and told her, he's gonna sell well a sx slave, there has not been mentions of r*pe in a dramatic way so far. However: I do think, an heir of Jango Fett / Clone and Anakin Skywalker would be a neat character

You all know I unsubscribed from theory made several posts about him, but this video at the end did restore a little bit but if faith in him for me. Gonna take time but I'll probably subscribe again sometime. I just don't like his overreactings to stuff and not giving something a chance. But who knows. I won't watch any live streams probably with the Ryan guy since I don't like him. But yeah restored a little bit of faith. I'll probably just not comment on videos though from now on. Kinda blocked I think from commenting from being disappointed in him but oh well. Just restored a bit of faith.

I know I posted alot of stuff about him, in the last few days, I was just disappointed to see him act the way he acted through all of this. He was one of my favorite YouTubers. So I hope you could understand my feeling about his reactions to stuff,But in all honesty, if he hates the show, he needs to stop looking at articles about it. He really needs to go back and do what he did best actually making Star Wars content about Lore and what ifs. I can't be the only one thinking this. He's just stirring up the hate bandwagon at this point. If he wants to talk about this stuff do it on star wars theory plus and let the main channel go back to the way it was, you can hate a show but be mindful on how you hate it there's always must be positive and negative things to say about shows and not just give the negative, He just needs to take a breather for month or so or whatever and let this all pass. And go back to what he did best. Until then I will stay unsubscribed. When he does those things again I will hop back on the theory train. Lol.

I hope I'm not the only one to think this. Who else misses the glory day of lore videos and what ifs? And when the community was actually good in the comments section 2017-2019 were the good years. His discord community was fantastic, everyone respected each other's opinions.

I just hope we see actual Star Wars videos from him again loved Vader episode 1 hyped for Vader episode 2 but still he needs to move pasted this Acolyte stuff. Just enjoy it or hate it but as I said just don't hate it just to hate it point out good things about it and the bad things just like other shows.

Thanks for reading...

Any recommendations on SW channels? I really like stupendous wave and generation tech. There are things I liked about swt's channel but even when I agree with him (acolyte was not great), it's just so overwhelmingly negative and rage baity, that it's unbearable to listen to. Im a huge fan of legends and trying my best to be excited about the canon that Disney is creating...any suggestions would be great

I don’t always agree with him, but that’s ok. I think his content is awesome, his opinions are pretty well based (even if I don’t share them) and he always roots for the new movies/shows even though he seems to be disappointed more often than not. I truly don’t understand the hate he seems to get all the time.

"While The Last Jedi is a great film, and I'll make many more videos about it and what I liked, there are many things I didn't."

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"That said, I did enjoy the film."

Watch even the beginning of this video and just pay attention to his tone. Anyone saying he hasn't become a grifter who is tapping into the unlimited power of hate bait is probably also sucked into this world of enjoying shitting on things more than enjoying enjoying things.

In a video two years later, he ranks all the movies and says of Episode IX "beautiful. I loved it; for what we got after The Last Jedi." And then he says of The Last Jedi, "I really wanna like VIII but I just don't."

Fast forward to a year ago and he's posting videos like the ones titled "I'M DONE! Disney Finally Admits They RUINED the Sequel Trilogy - REAL TALK"

That's the sort of dramatic, click baity shit he's known for now.

We've adapted to a culture where, even if you have your own opinions about something when you watch it, you go online and let others' opinions consume your own. This is evident when you see people, for example, spam comments sections with the "mood saber" take that you know they all got from these shitty TikTok hot takes. How many times have you seen people comment on lore breaking shit that you KNOW isn't lore breaking and it's just people who are regurgitating shit takes without any actual knowledge of Star Wars?

Almost everyone can agree that The Acolyte had some cool shit, even if you didn't like the show. To watch this guy stone faced as some of the best Star Wars combat we've seen plays out.. as we get our first live action Kyber bleed.. It's blatant where his head is at and where his priorities are.

I only care so much because his channel is so influential. He is cultivating a horde of haters who will mock you for enjoying something they don't. It's silly but it actually makes me sad when I try to talk about something Star Wars and the other person just goes on about what they hate.

SWT lacks basic media literacy, any form of nuanced understanding of SW lore whether that’s Legends or Canon, or ability of criticise in good faith, and views SW as pieces of trivia not an evolving story.

I just watched his breakdown of the finale. He still calls vernestra's headaches, induced by force visions in hyperspace, "tummy aches and diarrhea." Even though she literally corrected the politician guy when he asked her how her stomach was.

Then he complained about Qimir saying "If I can sense you, so can the Jedi." Even though the Jedi couldn't sense them at all. BUT QIMIR NEVER SAID THIS!!! He said: "if I can FIND you, so can the jedi."

Listen. I don't like this show. This finale sucked dick. And I think this whole show was a waste of time and money. But I'm so extremely disappointed that my once favorite star wars channel is now twisting the words of a show that he hates just to prove the points that he has made up in his mind.

Theory my friend, if you're reading this, please take a step back and look at what happened to your channel. Is this the legacy that you want to leave behind? You say that Disney is just in it for the money, but sadly I'm getting the same vibe from your channel these days. And it really upsets me, and many other star Wars fans with me who just want "good content". I think that's something that should sound very familiar to you....

If you liked the show, then that is great. It had pros and cons and I'm not trying to just shit on it. Moving forward I really hope Disney does a better job with some of these things as they try to make new content. It felt like it could've been really good if they had just done a couple things differently.

The good:
The choreography in some of the fight scenes and acting by some characters was very good. I think that if they use the twins as an introduction to why Plagueis starts experiments with the force and trying to create life, that is creative and new which is good, but they need to be very careful with how they do it because it is getting uncomfortably close to violating the story line of the OT and prequels where Anakin is the chosen one created by the force. It was cool to see Plagueis and I thought the CGI was good on him.

The bad:
The writing was pretty terrible for the story. The way they set up the motivations for the characters was just weird, particularly the twins. They swing like a pendulum and switch on a dime so it's not very consistent, and the story feels very forced because of that. The only reason they threw in Plagueis is because they want a second season, they did nothing with the character.

The whole thing with Sol is that he killed the mother, that entire scene was super forced and didn't make any sense to me, and then the way it was portrayed was just so off mark and not very believable, particularly with what they ended up doing with Sol's character/ using him for in this story. If they had gotten that scene right, then I would have understood how it ended much better. I see what they tried to do with his character and it could have made sense, but they just played their hand wrong. Like Sol wanted to go to the council was Indara stopped him. He killed the mother when I felt that wasn't in character for him, let alone in the moment as he stopped Torbin from drawing his saber. It was so clear to everyone that the mother was trying to stop any violence from happening, doesn't make sense to kill her. And then super forgivingly, the mother is like "I was going to let Osha go, it's what she wants, she chose you". The scene doesn't add the animosity the scene needed to add for Sol's guilt and to set the stage for Mae to do what she ends up doing.

They also mess with the timeline a bit (like Plagueis would be pretty young here and Ki-Adi-Mundi is now rather old by the time of the clone wars). At the end, Vanestra goes to see Yoda, so she either lies to Yoda and Yoda is not able to tell that she is lying for some reason which doesn't make sense considering how powerful he is supposed to be or she tells Yoda the truth in which case Yoda knows about the Sith, and it puts Yoda in a compromising position at the height of the power of the Jedi and the Republic. This doesn't make too much sense because the whole thing with the prequels is that the Jedi were slowly dragged down from their place of prosperity and dragged into the war. If they wanted to paint the jedi as not entirely good, it should have been more nuanced, because the jedi are supposed to be the good guys, but from a certain point of view. Again, the story and this show felt so forced.

Most of the posts I've seen are shitting on SWT for not liking the crappy Disney Star Wars slop and policing who he's allowed to be friends with and what opinions he's allowed to express