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  • What does the lyric “If he seems to thrive when so few survive, then I’m willing to wait for it” mean? What does the lyric “If he seems to thrive when so few survive, then I’m willing to wait for it” mean?

    Me and my dad were watching Hamilton, (we still are at the time im posting this) and he pointed out how this lyric in Wait For It doesn’t make much sense. What would Burr be willing to wait for, and why would he wait if Hamilton is thriving? Wasn’t sure if there was a definite answer to this.










    Is this line correct: if I could trade his life for mine Is this line correct: if I could trade his life for mine

    In It's Quiet Uptown, I always fall into uncontrolable sobbing. The whole song is just so sad and brilliant. However, this one sentence always makes me a bit out of the emotion: if I could trade his life for mine.

    Should this sentence be: if I could trade my life for his? I know Hamilton is trying to say, he would rather die so that his son can live.

    What is the correct way to say it?






    Meaning of woman above Burr and Hamilton during "Non-stop" Meaning of woman above Burr and Hamilton during "Non-stop"

    I recently went to watch the NYC version of Hamilton live and I caught something in the choreography that interested me. I'm a theatre kid and so is my boyfriend so we had some theories, but I thought I'd shoot it out here to hear more!

    During "Non-stop" when Hamilton visits Burr to ask him for his help defending the constitution, there's no one else on stage. Not a single other backup member (when they're usually constantly positioned on the sides, second floor, background, etc.), except for a lone woman. From what I could see, it was Angelica's actor still in her Angelica dress, but she was on the second floor right above Burr and Hamilton arguing. She was stood on the left side facing the right with a side profile in the shadows. Every little bit of stage placement and choreography always has a meaning in theatre, so I wondered what she was supposed to represent. She also walks off as soon as Burr goes into his solo part of the song there.

    The main theory my boyfriend and I came up with is that she's supposed to represent "lady liberty", aka: the nation itself. Burr and Hamilton are arguing over something that sort of defines our country from that point on. And to me, if ANYONE was going to represent lady liberty, it would be Angelica.

    Any other ideas? I'd love to hear them!




    Does anyone know a good book about the relationship between Hamilton and Laurens? Does anyone know a good book about the relationship between Hamilton and Laurens?

    I already know a bit about the topic and am familiar with some quotes from their letters, like the famous one: ‘Cold in my professions, warm in friendships, I wish, my Dear Laurens, it might be in my power, by action rather than words, to convince you that I love you.’ But I would still like a book that covers their relationship and the influence they had on their contemporaries, as my father doesn’t believe it and I want to prove it to him.


    Hamilton but Burr is a football fan Hamilton but Burr is a football fan

    Lafayette: FRANCE GOT KNOCKED OUT?! Burr: They are not what the euros are abo- Hamilton: Scotland is in the euros! Burr: Couldn't get past group stage, as stubborn as an animal in a burrow Washington: What about America? Burr: huge facepalm King of Spain: Spain winning the euros, just need the trophy Burr: Would you stop being nosy!? King of Great Britain: Well no, it's coming home again Burr: Please just relent





    Fan theory: unreliable narrator regarding the actors changing roles between acts Fan theory: unreliable narrator regarding the actors changing roles between acts

    Let me preface this by saying I know this probably isn't the actual intent of Lin and the others. I know that they had Lafayette, Mulligan and Laurens change characters between acts so they could keep a small cast and give those actors more stage time. But here's my head canon.

    Alexander Hamilton is an unreliable narrator throughout the show, especially when it comes to his friends from the first act (Lafayette, Mulligan and Laurens), and then his enemies and his son in the second act (Jefferson, Madison and Phillip). The first example is Laurens/Phillip. In Dear Theodosia, we see Hamilton at his house, presumably with Phillip although we can't see him at this point. This is also the last appearance of Laurens, as Hamilton reads the letter about his death. We see Laurens standing just ahead of Hamilton reciting his lines from The Story of Tonight. My theory here is that this skews Hamilton's view of his son, picturing him to look like John Laurens, his best friend. This could explain why Hamilton let Phillip duel, because instead of seeing him as his 19 year old son, he sees him as the capable soldier Laurens who succeeded in the last duel Hamilton was part of.

    My second example of this is with Lafayette/Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson in real life was known to be a very quiet, awkward person. This is in stark contrast to the Jefferson of the musical, who is possibly the most charismatic, energetic character in the show. Hamilton's story in the show cannot be told without the music (for example in his monologue before being shot by Burr he notes that "there is no beat, no melody"). So to keep the music going in his mind, Hamilton replaces his view of the reclusive Jefferson with Lafayette, who is another person who he recently lost (but this time to France, arguably worse than death). This comes into conflict in his mind after Cabinet Battle #2, where Jefferson says "Did you forget Lafayette?" You can actually hear in the album recording that this momentarily confuses Hamilton, as in his mind Jefferson is Lafayette.

    I don't have one of these for Mulligan/Madison though. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.



    Why did they cut all mentions of Hamilton's other kids? Why did they cut all mentions of Hamilton's other kids?

    Not being familiar with the story of Hamilton's life outside of this musical, I thought that Hamilton's desire for a legacy was even more tragic because he lost his only son and had no descendants. But then I google it and it runs out he has 8 KIDS?? Seems like kind of a major part of his life! They wouldn't have even had to show them, maybe just a mention of them??