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🔊 PublicityStop using "Bitcoin Cash" start using "BitcoinCash" (self.btc)

submitted by DangerHighVoltage111

If you want to hurt BCH, want it to hide beneath all the bitcoin hype and make it invisible use "Bitcoin Cash"

If you want it to stick out and be recognized use "BitcoinCash"

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[–]0110001010 13 points14 points  (31 children)

Can you elaborate more? How does concatenating or separating the word make a difference? When spoken verbally don't these sound identical?

[–]ShadowOfHarbringer 26 points27 points  (11 children)

"BitcoinCash" indexes on google and other search engines better.

When you enter "BitcoinCash" in the search bar, "bitcoin" results are omitted. When you enter "Bitcoin Cash" separately, they are not, this fares much worse.

[–]BitcoinopolyModerator - /R/BTC 5 points6 points  (10 children)

When you enter "Bitcoin Cash" separately, they are not, this fares much worse.

I'm seeing about <5% at most of non-BCH results when typing Bitcoin Cash even on the biggest search engines. That's not going to confuse anybody.

[–]ShadowOfHarbringer 11 points12 points  (9 children)

I'm seeing about <5% at most of non-BCH results when typing Bitcoin Cash even on the biggest search engines. That's not going to confuse anybody.

Try on youtube.

It is significantly easier to do SEO for a single unique word like "BitcoinCash" than for 2 words of which one is a different coin and the other is a common word.

This conception is rock solid, OP is right.

We have been discussing it extensively on Telegram too, everybody agrees pretty much.

[–]BitcoinopolyModerator - /R/BTC 4 points5 points  (8 children)

Try on youtube.

I see the same results (>95% BCH) even using a new IP on VPN.

[–]ShadowOfHarbringer 6 points7 points  (7 children)

Well, /u/cheaplightning tried on YT and he got terrible results with "bitcoin cash" and great results with "bitcoincash".

Everybody gets different results on YT due to profiling, so the results may vary.

I have to say that it is getting better on Google, I just tried and 100% results are for BCH.

[–]BitcoinopolyModerator - /R/BTC 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Everybody gets different results on YT due to profiling, so the results may vary.

That's a good VPN use case.

[–]ShadowOfHarbringer 0 points1 point  (4 children)

That's a good VPN use case.

99% of people do not care or use VPNs.

[–]BitcoinopolyModerator - /R/BTC 2 points3 points  (1 child)

99% of people do not care or use VPNs.

What percentage of people have a youtube account history which gives Bitcoin Cash searches a misleading/confusing result?

[–]ShadowOfHarbringer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not sure. Let me try "my" youtube.

I just checked. Whether I use "bitcoin cash" or "bitcoincash" the results are trash and 70% is about BCH, the rest is some generic crypto nonsense.

I guess it's bad either way 🤷‍♂️

[–]userfakesuper -1 points0 points  (1 child)

99% of people do not care or use VPNs.

100% of people who quote stats without providing proof are incorrect 99% of the time, but mostly I eat chicken, when talking about how to clean carpets with vodka. GooOOOOOoo team!

[–]ShadowOfHarbringer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but mostly I eat chicken, when talking about how to clean carpets with vodka

Wasting good vodka on a carpet? Sacrilege.

You're supposed to DRINK IT! Not spill it!

[–]cheaplightning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's True

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 15 points16 points  (16 children)

Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin + another search world. BitcoinCash is unique.

[–]0110001010 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Okay SEO I can understand.

[–]BitcoinopolyModerator - /R/BTC 2 points3 points  (6 children)

If somebody was telling you about a new video game that had the title "SuperMarioBros" then how would you type it into a search engine? Unless they informed you it was one-word-no-spaces then you would certainly type it with spaces. This would have a negative effect on search engine results.

re-posted from comment: https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/1bb3duq/most_ridiculous_reason_ever_seen_to_remove_a_post/ku7xzki/?context=3

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

heck the bitcoincash sub is called r/Bitcoincash and not r/bitcoin cash. Why? Because spaces are shit in names.

[–]BitcoinopolyModerator - /R/BTC 1 point2 points  (4 children)

So that's why r/supermariobros isn't called r/super mario bros?

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

🤷‍♂️ Same problem. super mario bros was coined before the internet and SEO took off.

[–]BitcoinopolyModerator - /R/BTC 0 points1 point  (2 children)

How many new-IP, post-internet games scrunch out all the spaces in their titles? CallOfDuty? WorldOfWarcraft?

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No rule without exception 🤷‍♂️ Do you think BitcoinCash can compete with their marketing budgets?

[–]BitcoinopolyModerator - /R/BTC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No rule without exception

That's a huge mis-characterization in terms of video games, movies, and computer software.

[–]BrotherDawnDayDuskRedditor for less than 60 days 3 points4 points  (7 children)

Quote it, if searching, like anything else.

Sounds more like you're simply trying to skirt around a reddit filter. May end up causing more confusion and trouble than it's worth.

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 4 points5 points  (6 children)

And how many people would do that? Try using #Bitcoin Cash on twitter

Two words are bad as a brand, no way around it.

[–]BrotherDawnDayDuskRedditor for less than 60 days 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Well, any time I'm searching on a term with a space, I quote it. Especially if I hit a bunch of results I'm not expecting. So to answer your question, I guess at least one person has figured out how search engines work. I can't speak for anyone else though. 

We have years of history and content under "Bitcoin Cash" , not "BitcoinCash". 

If we're truly worried about hash tags and reddit filters (places that we already expect the space to be removed anyway) enough that it's worth a significant rebranding effort, then I guess....go for it.

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

I don't see where this is a "significant rebranding effort" we remove a space. Everyone still recognizes it, some thing don't even change because the use BitcoinCash already.

[–]BrotherDawnDayDuskRedditor for less than 60 days 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Don't forget that much has been done in the past 6+ years under "Bitcoin Cash", which you could be equally messing up. But even if we ignore that, you'd have to get everyone to do this, everywhere, for all things going forward. If not, you're only creating more of a mess. It's not as insignificant and simple as you seem to think. But like I said... Go for it.

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Don't forget that much has been done in the past 6 years under "Bitcoin Cash"

Yes this is a real argument to consider. The counter is: the earlier we switch the better, less mess, more benefit.

We changed the color and it was a massive benefit for BitcoinCash. I'd say the benefits out weights the cost by a mile on removing the space.

Edit: It's an open, permissionless project. Anyone can name and color it whatever he likes. I was amazed at how fast the color changed got accepted.

[–]BrotherDawnDayDuskRedditor for less than 60 days 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm not convinced that changing a logo color a long time ago is an equal comparison to altering the name now, given the associated searching (and other related) impacts we've discussed.

But it is open and permissionless indeed. Go for it, we'll see how this one plays out.

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a shame. But good discussion.

[–]yebyen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm doing my part!.gif

[–]Lekje -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

what about Bitcoin_Cash?

[–]RodLuis995 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"It's curious, years ago I suggested this to a friend (I told him "if you want, don't always use "Bitcoincash", but do it alternately from time to time, so that search engines and other people also recognize that form"), and recently he wrote to me commenting that he had read a discussion where it was claimed that it actually worked better that way on YouTube. I told him "Haha, I mentioned it to you!."

[–]KallistiOW 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I honestly just say BCH most of the time nowadays

[–]FUBAR-BDHR 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'll just call BCH what it is: bitcoin

[–]Joshua_ABBACAB_1312 5 points6 points  (3 children)

But it's not BitcoinCash, just like it's not bcash. It's Bitcoin Cash with the BCH ticker. It is the one, true Bitcoin based on Satoshi's original vision. Only ones confused are the BTC maxis, especially the ones hell-bent on naming conventions being changed.

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

You can fight windmills or you can use them to push yourself to newer heights.

We assimilate bCash. With BitcoinCash we conquer visibility.

[–]Joshua_ABBACAB_1312 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Only ones emulating Don Quixote are you BTC maxis always trying to stir up something stupid like this.

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We changed the color, which was a far more drastic change. It would be stupid to insist in a space when it hurts the branding so much.

[–]Dune7 5 points6 points  (1 child)

If you want to hurt BCH, want it to hide beneath all the bitcoin hype and make it invisible use "Bitcoin Cash"

It's one thing to say using "BitcoinCash" will fare better with SEO.

It's another to ascribe bad intentions to people using the original name which is "Bitcoin Cash".

Use what you want, I think you're right that BitcoinCash will stand out better, but that's just an optimization for SEO.

The name of the coin is still Bitcoin Cash.

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We changed the color, which was a far more drastic change. It would be stupid to insist in a space when it hurts the branding so much.

[–]PanneKopp 2 points3 points  (1 child)

. allright, so BitcoinCash BCH from now on °

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

🙏 That is my suggestion yes.

[–]pacman78 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with this. Good call

[–]PotentialAny1869 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Excellent insight OP. Will use bitcoincash from now on!

[–]Clear_Hawk_6187 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, you have a point.
I support BitcoinCash 👍

[–]Ithinkstrangely 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think of it as the Bitcoin Cache. Pronounced Bitcoin Cash.

cache /kaSH/

a collection of items of the same type stored in a hidden or inaccessible place.

"an arms cache"

an auxiliary memory from which high-speed retrieval is possible.

"typical cache sizes range from 64K to 256K"

store away in hiding or for future use.

"he decided that they must cache their weapons"

store (data) in a cache memory.

"the operating system tries to cache every disk operation"

Satoshi said to me that this was an obvious way for things to play out. I guess I was stupid for not seeing it.

[–]Denace86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you feel about using “BTC”

[–]Tkhonlao 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Make sense

[–]RuinSome7537 -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Ironic considering this subreddit uses “BTC”.

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Read the FAQ

[–]Macabrej19 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This right here

[–]rareinvoices -1 points0 points  (9 children)

I wish maxis didnt coin Bcash, because it actually wouldnt be a bad brand name. BeCash etc. Catchy too, more than saying 2 words every time "Bitcoin-Cash".

[–]BitcoinopolyModerator - /R/BTC 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Catchy too, more than saying 2 words every time "Bitcoin-Cash".

I have to inform you that "Be Cash" is two words.

[–]rareinvoices 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yes but for Bitcoin-Cash each word means something else whereas BeCash is a new term. Also its less syllables.

[–]BitcoinopolyModerator - /R/BTC 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The words "be" and "cash" have the same meaning?

[–]rareinvoices 0 points1 point  (1 child)

"Bitcoin" can mean a lot of things (Core / BSV and others), and requires you to continue and specify "cash". BeCash doesnt have the same ambiguity.

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

We assimilated bCash.

[–]rareinvoices 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Are you sure the majority of the BCH community agrees? I feel like anytime someone calls it Bcash, they get corrected and told it was invented by toxic maxis, and to call it Bitcoin-Cash.

We need community agreement before we can change any branding. I am not sure how we could go about getting consensus on this topic. But branding and name recognition is a big deal.

[–]KallistiOW 2 points3 points  (0 children)

https://twitter.com/kzKallisti/status/1598074801880723456

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This has been discussed time and time again. But unlike color it is not so recognizable which means it didn't caught on outside the community. And it even seems more controversion now in the community.

You will use BitcoinCash anyway for some cases, why not make it consistent?

[–]bankbreakers -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

I kinda like calling it BitCash

[–]Ithinkstrangely 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I like calling it Bitcoin (BCH).

[–]RetiredCryptoPianist -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I built a couple of gpts that do my searches....Deep Dive is one. In place of searching endless sites I get DD to go get all the videos, podcasts, articles etc about a subj. Much better than just Googleing.

[–]Dinosaursareoil -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So…Bitcoin-Dash out of the question..?

[–]PetePredictable -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Just call it Bcash like real bitcoiners do & problem solved

[–]DangerHighVoltage111[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah it's cool as a nickname. I use it from time to time, but doesn't work as a name for the chain.