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I’m about a third of the way through this book. It’s quite fascinating and initially a difficult read. Compared to Snow Crash and Diamond Age, this is an entirely different sort of work. I will avoid spoiling it, but the big reveal does take some time getting to. Would like to hear what others thought about reading it. Learning all the novel words feels like nonsense at first. The dictionary entries help, but it does feel like a slog sometimes. Once one gets through that, it is really amazing to try and understand concepts of philosophy and science being discussed in an alien language. The Concents quite resemble our universities mixed with a monastery. Math takes on a pseudo religious atmosphere.


Anathem should I continue or just give up?
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Anathem should I continue or just give up?

I’m currently listening to the audiobook of Anathem, I’m one third of the book in and it’s not super interesting and feels very slow. Is this how this book is all the way or is something going to happen that will blow my mind? Is there any reason to go on? I really liked Seveneves. What do you fellow redditors think?


Prequel to Anathem? (Anathem Spolers)
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Prequel to Anathem? (Anathem Spolers)
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Prompted by a previous post on the sub, I would love to read a prequel story through Terran POV leading up to the events in their visitation of Arbre, a bit like Rogue One into ROTJ.

I would love to learn at what time Earth (or La Terre?) become space-faring, How laterrans were contacted by Umud and Tro? How did they decide to join? How about Fthos? How governance and politics work on Daban Urnud? A hint of Societas Eruditorum and presence of a certain redhead wizard/priest/thousander would be terribly delicious!

Any thoughts?


I'm currently reading Stephenson's Anathem and I don't understang anything...
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I'm currently reading Stephenson's Anathem and I don't understang anything...

...but I'm enjoying it so much so far! I've read about 30-40 pages. It's all convent-babble. Nothing is happening. But I'm liking it. It reminds me of Leibowitz, of The name of the Rose, even a little of Hyperion.

Is the whole book like this? Other than this I've only read Seveneves, which I absolutely LOVED. But that one had a lot of action, and after reading it I grabbed this one and couldn't advance more than a couple of pages. That was two or three years ago, and now I'm giving it a second chace. It doesn't scare me the fact it's a long book. I just don't know what to expect.

Edit: Wow, thank you guys! You have all set my motivation up to 11 with your comments :)


Anathem book nook -- looking for filler ideas
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Anathem book nook -- looking for filler ideas
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So, I posted a room box of Daniel Waterhouse's office last year, and I'm back again making another Stephenson miniature. This time it's an Anathem-themed book nook. I have a premade book nook, I've used my laser cutter to make different styles of "stained glass" cutouts in some of the panels, and a resin printer to make a tower that will be seen in the far distance (via the included mirror). I've made a small cubby section that I'll fill with small rolls of paper, and plan to hang a bolt, chord, and sphere in the space below it. There's a space that I'll make into a chalk hall. The windows I've made include a stylized analemma, the geometer's proof, and Hylaea and the triangle, as well as some more basic stained glass looking ones. I've also etched the overlapping circles from the music CD above the opening to the chalk hall.

So, I feel like it's a good start... but I want it to feel more lived-in and definitely include more easter eggs for the book. Where I'm stuck is kind of on materials. I have a ton of fabric, so the bolt shouldn't be an issue. Also a lot of thread, and I'm thinking about braiding some gold thread to make the chord. I'm not sure about the sphere, though. I feel like a marble with some element of glow in the dark or in an unusual material would be cool, though I don't want it to look like a toy. I'm trying to figure out how to make little tire sandles as well.

What other elements would you add? I'm limited in space at this point, but will add whatever I can. Oh, and to make it more fun, I have a deadline: our wedding anniversary next weekend!


The Anathem screenwriter's biggest challenge.
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The Anathem screenwriter's biggest challenge.
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If one were to make an adaptation of Anathem for the screen, how do you think they might manage the moment when Jules Verne Durand is unmasked? It is such a dramatic high point in the book, resolving all sorts of puzzles and questions in a flash. However, it seems like it'd be impossible to capture that moment on the screen.


A Darwinian Survival Guide: Shades of Anathem
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A Darwinian Survival Guide: Shades of Anathem

A new book from MIT Press argues that civilization's "immediate goal ought to focus on preserving as many of humanity's positive achievements—from high technology to high art—as possible to shorten the time needed to rebuild" after a probable collapse. The authors preview their thinking in an article on MIT's The Reader. I have to say, it reminds me more than a little of the concent system in Anathem, and Neal's involvement with the Long Now folks....


Books like Anathem
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Books like Anathem

Wow, this book blew me away. It's just what I wanted thick, real, cerebral and engaging sci fi. I compare it favourably to the Egan I have read and Blindsight.

I know it's pretty specific, re there any other books or authors that incorporate philosophy into their stories the way Stephenson has?

Cheers!


Anathem help
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Anathem help

Any suggestions to help make me need to read this book? Damn. I never worked so hard to even start reading any book more than Anathem. I just get fucking dizzy with the language’s, names and definitions. Wtf Neal?


Who plays the different characters in your head when you read Anathem?
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Who plays the different characters in your head when you read Anathem?

Each time I read a book I imagine a pictographical companion piece where each concept is shown. Not necessarily characters because that's really individual, but clothes, buildings, set-pieces. I just posted some early low-effort stuff to this sub, but I'm sort of itching to put together a chapter-segmented blog or youtube series about the book with some pictures from my mind when I read it. Ai is helpful here of course, since I'm not aiming for high art, but I'm a 3d artist and I'm thinking of actually modelling the entire concent of St Edhar in 3d, which would probably kill me.

ANYWAY: I'm bad at american actors, and movies in general, please tell me how you imagine the cast of a movie adaptation of Anathem.


I am at a loss with Neal Stephenson's Anathem...
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I am at a loss with Neal Stephenson's Anathem...

Ok so normally I wouldn't make a post about should I continue x. I usually stick it out to the end of a book so I can truly pass judgment or drop it right away if it doesn't click immediately. This book tho. It's insidious. I am nearly half way through and every damn time I think the story is FINALLY going somewhere it just devolves onto mundane details about things that are seemingly irrelevant. I just can't grasp if there's any real central thing that these characters are supposed to be doing other than looking for the Anathem'ed guy or going to tell (someone? some group?) about the spaceship. And why did it take 1/4 of the book just to establish that people noticed a spaceship?

I'll admit the the world building is cool and some of the concepts are enjoyable like the Thousanders making thatched roofs to keep Nukes from corrosion. But, like, what the hell am I reading??? Main character has NO personality or maybe one that comes off as slightly nerdy? I thought that once the group (seemingly inexplicably) gets sent on their adventure that the story would pick up and there would be some kind of plot to work towards but it just seems so rambling. And I usually enjoy philosophical asides.

I've read many, many other sci-fi stories but this is my 1st Stephenson book. Is he just not for me? Is Anathem unique compared to his other work? Finally, does Anathem REALLY get better or do I need to just move on?

oh, also, if anyone is feeling ambitious I would LOVE a breakdown of the plot up to the 1/3 mark... I think they are preparing vehicles at a truck stop for reference. I just can't help feeling like I'm missing something significant that would make me more invested in what's going on.

Cheers.

Just wanted to add that the stuff he is doing with language and altering word usages is not part of the problem I'm having. Gene Wolfe did that a lot in Book of the New Sun and I had no hang ups with either. Definitely one of this books strengths.



Indulge me again please: Anathem is a tribute, part 2
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Indulge me again please: Anathem is a tribute, part 2
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Hi all, this one is spoiler-tagged since it’s about the end of Anathem. I seemed to get some agreement that Anathem (or at least the first third of it) is a tribute to Umberto Eco’s Name of the Rose. You don’t have to scroll too far down in this sub for the first post.

Eco said the volumes whispered amongst each other, not between, implying it’s not a two-party conversation but a big ol’ book fiesta, so (terrible fate for me, re-reading one of my favorite books), another Anathem read to see if there’s more.

I think it’s a tribute to more than NotR. I think it’s a series of stitched-together love letters to books NS adored when he was a teen/20-something.

Main takeaway: maybe our adventurers going into the black void, with all their diverse intellectual or martial skills and their utter devotion and trust to each other boarding an incredibly technologically advanced yet bizarre and ominous vessel and being stuck on it, with an ambiguous plot ending in the company of a character named Jules Verne is a good candidate.

I’m wondering if the whole Silk Road/Soviet-style seat-of-the-pants space launch from Baikonur is some kind of mashup of 1001 Nights and Space Race textbooks?

I’m not saying he’s stealing: I think it’s out of love and nostalgia. Obviously it’s his own story, these are just love notes dropped onto the reticulum.

It’s the second time I’ve tapped up against serial releases from around 1900 when trying to figure this out. Does anyone else have more knowledge of the genre?

What do you all think?



Anathem Miniseries?
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Anathem Miniseries?

I just finished rereading the book for the first time since I was a teenager. Got so much more out of it as an adult. In fact, I can’t stop thinking about how it could be adapted into a stunning streaming miniseries, assuming you had the right Showrunners.

The advantage is that you can make it a multi season experience due to the density and complexity of the book, without adding any padding or non-canon stuff.

The challenge is the intricacies of the lore, but Game of Thrones was able to overcome that, as was the LOTR universe

Interested in what the forum would think about such an idea.


Question about Anathem
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Question about Anathem

I am 150 pages in, loving it to bits, even though I'm not familiar with many of the concepts - more of a humanities rather than a maths/science guy. However - after Raz comes out of his exile with the Book, things have changed and he has a conversation with Tulia about some things. I don't really understand what they're talking about. Am I meant to, at this point? Or is it something that becomes clear later that's being hidden from the reader? No spoilers, just wanted to know this. Thanks.



Adapting Anathem to a DnD campaign
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Adapting Anathem to a DnD campaign

I've had a daydream obsession of late to adapt anathem into a campaign. 5e actually could work as a system with a few modifications to the story, and a reconfiguration of races. I'm thinking it would be a campaign told in 3 acts (much like the acts of the novel).

Act 1: Life at the concent. Opens with the 100 year Alert, spilling centurions into the world. PC's would be fraas or suurs of the various years, ita, burgers or slines based on their class choices with the ones able to weild magic power coming from the centurions. This builds on the concept of the millenarians having strange and inexplicable abilities by allowing powers be developed by the others as well.

The 10 day apert would have the characters meeting, interacting, solving a crisis (I'm thinking a fire that threatens to consume the concent), potentially getting into a dust up with some unruly slines. Act 1 ends with the laser message and a sacking of the concent

Act 2 is an escort quest with Fraas Jad over the North Pole. Pretty straightforward adventuring.

Act 3 kicks off with a political drama. The cha characters get to shine. Once the infiltration is revealed, we have a quick escape sequence and then we set up the infiltration. If anyone's listened to the adventure zone, this would make use of fraas jad's abilities of probability collapse to create the mechanic of the eleventh hour chapter.

Story wraps with a satisfying end, everyone goes home, I take a two year break from DMing.

Anything you would change? Any major story beats you'd be sure to hit or Easter eggs you'd want to include? Unlikely anyone I host on this campaign will have read the novel, so spoilers are not a worry.


Indulge/test my theory: Anathem is a tribute to a tribute
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Indulge/test my theory: Anathem is a tribute to a tribute
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I’m trying for no spoiler tags since it’s blanket-tagged, but if you see a need for one, I can add it. This tag is for Neal Stephenson, Umberto Eco, and Arthur Conan Doyle. I’m trying for no plot, just setting. And if you’ve seen this theory before, sorry for reposting, I’ve searched and never found it.

Premise: A teenage monk has decided to record the adventures he shares with his middle-aged mentor in memoir format. The memoir is strictly first-person, no omniscient narrator. The kid is bright but brings great humor to his story when things woosh over his young head. There is definitely a girl involved. His mentor is a highly intelligent monk, well-respected, obsessed with lenses and optics, loves philosophy, has a strange attention span, and is probably a bit on the spectrum. The mentor is determined to discover a concealed truth, a mystery forbidden by the higher-ups in the hierarchy who keep the mentor on the fringes because intellect aside, he’s just odd. The mentor and the mentee explore the mystery despite the ban, and adventures ensue, including the lens being stolen to foil their discoveries.

Setting: Their story begins at a walled monastery in the misty mountains. There is a convenient underclass in the monastery to interface with the commoners and leave the monks free to copy and study learned texts, sing beautifully meaningful songs, and drink a bit but not too much. It’s not so terrible for the underclass, since their food is better than what the monks or commoners get and their dating isn’t as restricted and they get to experiment with cool fabrication techniques. The monastery has a series of underground labyrinths between buildings, but its primary building is a tower with a square footprint with a sub-building at each corner, and its architecture has varyingly sided portions to represent various symbolic truths. The tower is hollow all the way up, and in an upper story is a book. You do not want this book thrown at you: it is full of upside-down logic, things that will drive people insane or to suicide. The monastery’s system of thinking has a deep rift between those who value austerity and those who enjoy a bit of wealth; those who think what’s tangible is what’s real and those who think there’s a deeper truth beyond the physical; those who care about the past and those who want to influence the future, but all are hoping to unite the factions in the face of larger threats. After much discussion of the value of philosophy, clever deductive techniques, and application of hunches, the mystery is solved.

But that’s not Anathem (2008). That’s Umberto Eco’s The Name of the Rose (1980, translated to English 1983).

And other people have pointed out how The Name of the Rose is a Sherlock Holmes tribute: William of Baskerville and his inhuman observational powers and wonky personality unmasks the unlikely but hiding-in-plain-sight killer and the serial nature of the days correlated to the initial release of Hound of the Baskervilles (serially 1901-1902), and William’s observation that books talk to each other, whisper down the ages, are not finite. And I think maybe Conan Doyle was trying to tip his hat at but also uplift the penny dreadful genre.

So am I crazy? Saying something so obvious it just hasn’t been put on this sub? Or is NS paying tribute to Eco who was paying tribute to Conan Doyle and playing narrative time-jumping games?


Reading Anathem for the first time - wow!
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Reading Anathem for the first time - wow!

I bought the first edition paperback when it came out in 2009 but couldn’t get into it back then. I think it was just a little too arcane for me.

Started again a couple of weeks ago and have just finished part 5. The world-building in this book is phenomenal. It has crept into my dreams and my day-dreams. I know I need to continue reading but at the same time I’m conscious that I’ll only read this for the first time once. Very few books have done that to me recently. Maybe Hyperion or House of Suns, both of which I read for the first time last year, but then I just wanted to press forward and know more. Here, I want to savour what I’m reading. Let each part sink in a little while and digest before going on.

Did you feel the same way when you read Anathem? What other books deserve savouring as opposed to “binging?”


Anathem: I don’t understand, and it’s bothering me… [spoiler]
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Anathem: I don’t understand, and it’s bothering me… [spoiler]
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We learn that Geometers come from universes where the physics are different, which means their biology ends up different - people can’t digest food that comes from a different universe.

So how can they breathe each others air?

Why is respiration different from enzymatic action?

Doesn’t make sense to me.

I’m chalking it up to it being too hard to tell a cool story if Geometers and Arbreists can’t breathe (and talk in) the same air. Like, sci-fi running up against literary limits.


Anathem by Neal Stephenson: A Pilgrimage for Truth.
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Anathem by Neal Stephenson: A Pilgrimage for Truth.

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Read it the first time last year during lockdown and I knew something had changed about my perception of the world. But I needed to wait until my reread before I could review it.

So, here we are.

This book is set in a world called Arbre. Similar to our planet in many ways but so very different in others. There are 2 factions of the human population called, the Mathic World (Theoretical scientists, Philosophers, Scribes, Martial Artists etc - Truth seekers of the world) and the Seaculars/Extramuros (Everyone outside the Mathic world). The people of the Mathic world (called Avouts) live within walled Monasteries (called Concents) - a monk-ish lifestyle, completely isolated from the Seacular world so as to preserve the sanctity of their pursuit of knowledge. These Concents are only opened at every 1, 10, 100 and 1000 years' (yeah, we've got super old dudes) anniversaries, and a mingling with the Seaculars happens, only for 10 days (these are called Apert).

That's really just the very basic part of the setting. There is also 6000+ years of history of the Arbran civilization established in the book.

This book does something that most Sci-Fi (or Speculative Fiction) books rarely do; give precedence to World-building. The world-building aspects of this book are more than I can describe here. With visual descriptions and nuanced details of the world, belief systems, life within the Concents, philosophical ideologies etc. This world could exist independently, without being in service to the plot at all and completely separate from the thematic needs of the book.

To describe the Plot, it's very simple yet complicated. A world-shattering event occurs and a ragtag group of Avouts led by our 19 year old protagonist (Fraa Erasmus), gets called out by authorities from the Seacular world for a mission. From then on, an epic journey across the world ensues, filled with conflicting ideologies, action, world-shattering events and ultimately, the pursuit of the Truth of the world.

Our Characters are a group of young Avouts who are leaving their Concents for the first time, experiencing the outside world with fresh eyes, just like us. We experience the journey, which is told through a first person narrative of our protagonist Fraa Erasmus, who is in pursuit of more than what his mission initially entails. He's chasing his beloved mentor, One Fraa Orolo, who gets expelled from their Concent for unknown reasons. These characters are very dear to me at this point. I relate so much with them; their infinite curiosity, aversion to prejudice, nerdy humour etc.

The Concepts and Ideas explored in this book were mind-blowing to me, and am baffled by how well it's conveyed through the narrative and world-building. There are different factions of Avouts in the Mathic world such as:

Rhetors (who use techniques to alter the knowledge of history by using rhetorical approaches to alter memory and reworking documents/records), Leorites (who study history soo in depth so that time is not wasted on inventing/discovering things that have already been invented/discovered), The Ringing Vale (who learn Martial Arts and nuanced controlling of their own body) and Incanters (the most interesting of them all, which you'll have to read to find out what they're about). The book is kind of a love letter to the history of Philosophy and knowledge.

The Pacing of the book will be appealing or not based on how you take it in. The abrupt pauses for short exposition worked great for me and added to my immersion into the world. Also, the time it takes to explain theoretical concepts added so much to my enjoyment, and was pure escapism. The way Stephenson reveals information and plants his twists were riveting and so unconventional for any kind of book.

The Events in this book are a whole another category on it's own. There are narrative-altering incidents that take place, which are epic in scale and the implications are riveting to think about.

Above all, this book made me think about our own existence. There is Social commentary, pointing a finger at the prejudices and flaws of our own world. How and why we treat each other the way we do. How far off from rational beings we are, and how much our actions are driven by emotions rather than by logic/common sense when logic is required. The various terms made-up for this book, which are stand-in for the biases we fall into as part of our subjective perceptions of this world, eg: "Diax's Rake", meaning that, Never believe a thing simply because you want it to be true, and the Avouts try their best to avoid it. How our Consciousness is able to perceive the world as it does and theoretical discussions about how one might perceive it in the absense of Anthropological constraints. And about the Cosmos as a whole.

Sorry for the vomit post. I just had to get it out of my system.


Does Anathem lose its way after Fraa Erasmus... *SPOILERS*
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Does Anathem lose its way after Fraa Erasmus... *SPOILERS*

SPOILERS AHEAD FOR ANATHEM BY NEAL STEPHENSON

I'm at around the 50% point, and so far I have been really, really enjoying this book. I have an MA in Philosophy, and I love the time in the concent, with the various dialogues, calcas, and the overall tone of the book. It's very clever.

However, I am at the point where Ras and crew are trekking across the frozen wastes chasing after Orolo, and Ras has just falled down the crevas., and I can't help but feel the book has lost its way, or at least the ambience and atmosphere from the Math that made it so compelling. Without the context of the Math, it seems to have descended a little into standard sci-fi fare, with a journey across a harsh wasteland.

I'm wondering what people's thoughts are about the rest of the book. Does the concent, the avout, the philosophy and the theories make a return, or is it all standard sci-fi journeying from here.

Please minimise spoilers from beyond the point where I am up to.

Thanks!


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Books like Anathem by Neal Stephenson

Hey, I posted this on r/ifyoulikeblank, and someone said I should ask here. I'm looking for book recommendations like Anathem by Neal Stephenson.

Things I appreciate:

- Relaxed pacing (not slow, just not rushed)

- Delves into deep physical and metaphysical concepts

- Isn't just straight humans vs aliens

- Detailed without being overly descriptive

- Story is multi-faceted (mostly sci-fi, but also philosophy, romance, adventure, action)

- Worldbuilding is complete, but not all shoved into the beginning

- Beginning exposition section is long, but doesn't feel explanatory in nature (done through narration of a day in the life)


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Anathem by Neal Stephenson

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2845024-anathem

This is a very complex story of an order of monks, mostly isolated from the rest of the world, who study abstract math and philosophy. Every 1 to 1,000 years, depending on sect, they open up their doors to receive information on the state of the outside world. During the time of the book, the outside has fairly modern technology. The world has a very well thought out history, and the evolution of the meanings and connotations of words in their language is important. There are always tensions between the outside world and the monks, who have occasionally been ransacked during times of trouble. The main plot begins when the main character is expelled into the outside world for using outside technology to discover a dangerous third party an alien spaceship that is far beyond their technological level. The plot is very dense and convoluted (and hard to summarize without spoiling), with lots of logical and philosophical problems, most of which are real ones, just given new fantasy names, including several ideas developed by Penrose and (general spoiler for the last third of the book) Many Worlds.

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  • Science Fiction, or Speculative Fiction if you prefer. Fantasy too. Asimov, Bradbury, Clarke, Dick, Heinlein and other SF books. SF movies and TV shows. Fantasy stuff like Tolkien and Game of Thrones. Laser guns, space ships, and time travel. etc. Star Trek, Battlestar, Star Wars, etc. members
  • r/Fantasy is the internet's largest discussion forum for the greater Speculative Fiction genre. Fans of fantasy, science fiction, horror, alt history, and more can all find a home with us. We welcome respectful dialogue related to speculative fiction in literature, games, film, and the wider world. We ask all users help us create a welcoming environment by reporting posts/comments that do not follow the subreddit rules. members
  • This reddit is for fans and creators of Science Fiction and related media in any form. SF topics should involve plausible ideas reached through the rational application of science. General speculative fiction posts are fine as long as they involve Science Fiction. members
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