Thought you guys might enjoy this. Doing some research of a news piece on Boostio and found this tweet from April 2020. Nadeshot tweeted that he needed 4 for a VALORANT tournament, and Boostio quote RTd saying "please give me a chance I will own."

Pretty cool!

I have a sneaking suspicion that NRG are going to bring them back for this split. If you look at s0m's tracker() you will see since the leak that Marved is getting benched he has been playing a ton of smokes in ranked. Previously it waas mostly duellist and the odd initator but now mainly smokes and who is he playing ranked with? FNS who is now playing sentinel agents and viper as well. Call me crazy but i think this might be the most likely thing that they are coming back, though this is all speculation.

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Widowmaker. I try to play Ashe, Widow one-shots me. I try to play Sombra, Widow one-shots me. I try to play Tracer, Widow one-shots me. She grabs me by the throat and forces herself far back into the map. I practice for her. I cook for her. I give her skins, she isn't satisfied. "I have no use for cookies, you just need to give me more skins" I can't even buy the battle pass, i don't have enough Coins. She grabs my credit card, it declines. "Guess this is the end" She pops ult, she says "No one can't hide from my sight". There is no hint of sadness in her eyes. Nothing but pure, one-shot hitscan capabilities. What a cruel world.

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Sorry it's so late this week. I'm an ex Seoul Dynasty player as well and I was a bit too busy so I kind of just listened to all for it and then got way too busy for a few days with work. Here's the loose translations for episode 5 of Overwatch University. Rush had to leave very early on due to Internet issues and Moon who was watching at the time volunteered to help as a lot of the talk was in regards to the Seoul vs Shanghai Rivalry anyways so having both POVs was insightful

Topic 1 Intros and Seoul Dynasty Season 1

Aid: Have you seen Overwatch University given you have been invited by NineK

Tobi: Not really. I've skimmed around and seen pieces of the Crusty interview and Moon interview.

Aid: We're going to go over Tobis lengthy career as we were both pros

NineK: Isn't it kind of disrespectful to Tobi for you to group him up with you?

Aid: I had a lot of talent I just got cursed with a shit Coach like you NineK right Tobi?

Tobi: True

Aid: See two instances of your failures

NineK: What does that make the people who won under me? You two must've been the problem.

Aid: (pulled up Seoul Dynasty s1 roster and Tobi just explains who all of them were) Honestly you guys didn't do amazing right?

Tobi: No we were bad we went 7-3, 7-3, 5-5, and then 3-7. Just mid

NineK: Did you feel in preseason scrims you were in trouble?

Tobi: No I didn't we did very well even in the preseason games we won everything.

Rush: There any problems we didn't know about you can tell us?

Tobi: I can tell all the potential members we could've had though. Carpe, Fury, Gesture, Jjonak

NineK: Wow you started and ended with Seoul now that I think about it.

Aid: So we heard lots of rumors about Seoul but I heard you had unique member rotations where only allowing certain players for certain stages?

Tobi: If I'm clarifying a bit the split rosters was more of a season 2 decision with an A team and B team where eventually the roster mixed together. Biggest issue was the coaches couldn't agree. So sometimes they would just take turns like coach A gets to decide today then coach B gets to decide what to do and then coach c.

NineK: I heard you basically did that with a new coach per stage.

Rush: Who was your head coach?

Tobi: 4 coaches + extras

Aid: How did you decide who played what?

Tobi: Honestly the meta was so hard locked at the time the biggest issue was the coaches disagreed how we should play and it was very confusing how we should do it. We basically went back and forth with a coach of the day deciding what we did.

NineK: Too many games too. That's how Shanghai went 0-40 cause there was way too much. Not to mention no one wanted to scrim them cause it's not like you wanted to be their first victory either.

Tobi: We scrimmed them a bit

NineK: Wow you're nice people.

Tobi: They've invited us over at times and made food for us too.

Rush: Yeah there's pictures of it.

NineK: Cause of the Korean members?

Tobi: No this was way before that

NineK: Wow so kind. Isn't it cause your results weren't good either?

Tobi: Uhhh... Where were you in season 1?

NineK: I came in late. Stage 3. Season 1 was fun though

Aid: Honestly getting dragged back and forth by your coaches must be stressful. As a player there has got to be times when you do something one way and think to yourself why the heck does he want me to do it this way instead

NineK: Also they'd probably never had that many members to work with either since they just added players to Lunatic Hai

Tobi: True. We had 11 starting members and then acquired Gambler when I was having wrist issues. Then we lost another member and went back to 11. I truly believe having 12 members was so pointless

NineK: I agree like it's good if you can make it work but if you don't it just makes people feel awful. I don't know why people insisted so much on large rosters.

Tobi: Lots of people lots of possibilities I guess?

Rush: Also this is when OWL wanted to copy traditional sports so they got a bunch of players on their rosters

Tobi: They did invest more in OWL back then

NineK: They were really the team designed to win everything weren't they?

Rush: I remember an article saying they had an 80% chance of winning

NineK: People don't get how hard this time was cause of the random Mercy meta. Honestly probably wouldn't have been this bad for Seoul if patches came out like they do now

Tobi: Meta was unfavorable sure but we just played poorly to be honest

NineK: Wow so honest very cool

Topic 2: Ryujekong

Aid: Everyone was so confused by Ryujehong on Tank I want to hear what happened

Tobi: Honestly it's been so long I don't remember this time very well. I also wasn't even scrimming or playing at the time because of my wrist. I was basically just going to the doctor. We had kuki who for reasons was having troubles so he stopped playing and then Miro was having a lot of struggles at the time as well with how the meta was playing. It's mostly because of the comms cause obviously Miro had better mechanics Jehong sucks at primaling too but he would take space well and call out commands for the team to help

Aid: How did your scrims go?

Tobi: I don't remember

NineK: He can't help but not remember there were only scrims allowed at the practice facilities at the time and kids that were ill like him straight up just didn't even go. There were set times

Aid: So this isn't Jehongs main position and he was forced to tank must have been hard.

NineK & Rush: Must be

Tobi: It absolutely was. Imagine how sorry he felt to Miro. He was a support replacing Miro. If he fails not only does he get ridiculed for it but people slander Miro for being replaced by a tank of this caliber he felt very burdened feeling sorry that Miro might get insulted more than he did

NineK: I remember at the time a lot of people said Jehong had a bad Zenyatta as well but I thought it was good

Aid: Yeah I don't really see how he was particularly bad

NineK: Honestly the way things were he was probably just getting compared to Jjonak who was a beast at the time. The flame for Jehong was insane at the time

Aid: I remember his team would just hyper pocket Jjonak and have him just frag. NYXL were so defensive and good at pocketing.

NineK: In another way of seeing things that playstyle not being meta anymore might be why NYXL couldn't hack it in finals.

(Watching VOD of Seoul vs London)

NineK: Damn Munchkin fucking sucked at Tracer

Rush: Wait why is Fleta playing Widow?

Tobi: He was really good at Widow

NineK: He was

Rush: Then what is Munchkin good at

NineK: Just Cassidy Soldier. But Widow was so broken back then

Aid: Monkey could never catch her cause of her grapple cooldown

NineK: Nearly all the monkeys sucked at primal dribbling too. If a Mercy pocketed her she never died either. Who was good then again? Carpe...

Tobi: Linkzr Surefour Pine

Aid: Wow such names from my memories

NineK: Gesture Fury were way too good at Monkey D.va. Honestly there's so much shit about London I wanna expose

Aid: Bring Profit

NineK: I'll get Rascal easily. Wow Bdosin looks so young here what the he'll.

Topic 3: End of Season 2 VOD of Jehong Tobi Crying Post Elimination to Spark

Aid: I didn't know this happened at the time but NineK mentioned this happened can you explain?

Tobi: At the time role lock got forced and doomfist hanzo reaper were good. At the time we were kind of really good in scrims but lost to a team in tournament we never lost too in scrims. Jehong was already out there crying and I didn't want to come out and Danny kept forcing me to come out even though I said I didn't want too. But I was afraid the broadcast would get delayed or ruined cause of me so I was forced to.

Ninek: At the time we were preparing for our game up right after them but our GM was so fuxking angry at the time like how could you force them to do this right after they lost he complained a lot to Blizzard. Cause just imagine, thank God you brought out two veterans and media trained players. Imagine if you brought out complete noobies if it was this hard for these 2 veterans imagine what they might let slip on a broadcast when emotions are this high. This is also right after their season ended and they were officially eliminated.

Rush: From Blizzards POV these 2 were icons of the game and they probably felt like they could really show the importance and feelings toward this game to the audience watching

NineK: But like RIGHT after they lost is insane to me. Like let them process instead of fucking ambushing them as they're coming down from the stage.

Rush: But it's important cause this is when they're at the peak of the emotions being felt so I get it.

NineK: There's actually so many players who went down that stage to the hallways down crying

Aid: Of course they work hard and it didn't work.

Tobi: When we scrimmed we only lost to 1 team ever. Shock. We beat Vancouver NYXL Spark everyone else.

NineK: Wow so strong

Tobi: But in the end we just lost to Spark

NineK: I can say this now but we scrimmed Hangzhou a lot at this time. They didn't have a coach we were their coaches. Literally they would scrim us and copy us the next day in games. Since GOATs they basically decided they couldn't beat us so they copied our opening strats positioning skill usage everything. That's why they did decent

Aid: So Seoul lost cause of you

Tobi: We regretted a lot because of some of our microplays. There was a thing when double shield was first happening where Moria sprays her heals on the tanks right? The enemy Sigmas could shoot their shield out behind the Orisa to block the heals. And we thought this was possible but went and said it wasn't going to be a difference maker and ignored it

NineK: Wait we were doing that since day 1 lol

Tobi: We lost to Spark because of that. We felt awful cause this is something we thought could happen but ignored. At the time Marvel was our Sigma and Michelle who was a traditional offtank was forced on Orisa. We had Fissure who was good at Orisa who retired so we had no Orisas.

Aid: Timings always been off for Seoul I guess

NineK: No wonder you felt so many emotions. I was so sad seeing this. Seoul was honestly so good in season 2 but always somehow was just one step short. It hurt my heart to see them.

Aid: Players don't like to cry like that so they have to have been feeling so much to cry like this

Topic 4: Seoul vs Shanghai

Aid: We had Moon and he said some stuff on this we were all in the West and we would just see the results but this May Melee where you were up 3-0 and got reverse swept... your stories about this?

Tobi: We didn't get ahead of ourselves Shanghai was always good at Gibraltr and we thought we would lose this map but win the rest for a 4-1. I'm not sure how we lost Busan though

Tobi: We won a lot with our double shield

Rush: Fearless wasn't supposed to play

Aid: Fearless told me at the time he didn't get to scrim even once and then came in and won everything

NineK: Wow

Aid: Yeah no scrims at all

NineK: Wait Tobi why us Bdosin on Brig and you on Baptiste?

Tobi: I played the Baptiste for Seoul at the time cause Bdosin fucking sucked at Bap. This mother fucker could never use his abilities properly. He must've gotten sick in the head watching Viol2t play or something cause whenever he had cooldowns he would be on some high ground alone shooting and scream "Aghhh" and die off on his own

NineK: I remember now it wasn't super locked who played what because no one had Briggitte experience at the time

Tobi: Also if this happened there would be cases where in double shield mirror your Brig had to swap to Zenyatta but at the time Gesture had too many complaints about coordinating his pulls with Bdosin

NineK: I have no idea how Seoul lost this right now

Tobi: There's no absolutes in Overwatch. But the only thing I remember is our loss in Junkertown

Aid: For Kings Row I remember the Felta carry with Widow this was probably in all of those OWL top 5 highlights. I still can't believe how far Shnghai got in Junkertown though

NineK: Wow even Fearless is playing Orisa here

Tobi: That's why we thought we would win here. It's such a double tank focused map. Fits was randomly flanked high on the left and I td him to get down but he died on our A defense.

NineK: Wow you guys got out ult cycled like crazy

Rush: The Torbjorn choice here leaves a lot to be desired

NineK: I agree

Aid: So then there is that little celebration Shanghai did how did you feel

Tobi: Can I curse?

NineK: Seoul is just so ugh... like back in season 2 they beat New York during GOATs who was supposed to be top 2 but Seould couldn't take those next steps to greatness here as well. There are those super important games that once you win you just go on a roll and Seoul never got to do it

Tobi: I really hated losing to Shanghai cause I could've been on the team.

NineK: Really?

Tobi: Yeah I received offers from them on 3 separate occasions but ended up choosing Seoul. I wanted to believe I made the right choice so I wanted to win

Topic 5: Tobi Happy. Season 3

Aid: There's this gif of you happy after a win

NineK: It's so funny you took your glasses off before cheering

Tobi: At the time we lost to Shanghai so often but then finally beat them

NineK: The thing is Seoul was lucky cause they actually shouldn't have been in the season 3 finals originally.

Rush: Washington was the biggest offender

NineK: Off memory it felt like a "everyone suffered because of COVID so everyone gets a chance" thing

Tobi: But the thing to note is we did well in the West before we were forced to go to Korea and beat Glads and Valiant. We won like all of our scrims at the time.

NineK: Fine I'll give you that

Rush: Seoul was honestly really good during the online era

Aid: What did you think of the Hog meta?

Tobi: I was a huge doubter. Like at the time it was Zarya Hog or Sigma Hog. It just had none of the fundamentals of Overwatch I was used to seeing. I just couldn't believe it.

NineK: Tobis a purist "where do you come from thinking Hog could ever be a main tank"

Tobi: His ability to take space was unreal at the time. But Gesture was really into it and Wizardhyeong pushed for it

Aid: Gesture was a really good Hog though

NineK: All the guys there had good Hogs. Gesture Super Smurf Fearless were all good at it

Rush: But Shanghai didn't play it

NineK: I don't know Shanghais reasoning but I know Shock played how they did cause Viol2t fucking sucked at Ana lol. The thing is he did win with it but his scrim results as Ana was terrible

Rush: Viol2t Ana is known in the community as weaker though

NineK: But he doesn't think so

Tobi: I heard it got to the point where Crusty said he would do better if he played than Viol2t

NineK: That's why Architect played it for a bit. They had Twilight but I have no idea why they didn't use him more. I don't know how much I should say when there's no Shock rep from the time here but as far as I Know Super wasn't supposed to play. Smurf was but he didn't fit with his playstyle and the team well enough at the time

Tobi: If I have to point out regrets in the Shock game it was not using Zenyatta on Busan

NineK: But shouldn't you playing something other than the Ashe?

Tobi: No this was when Ashe was super broken and Profit was really good at her

Aid: The more I see it the more I really feel regrets about Seouls performances

NineK: That's what I've been saying Seoul was almost never bad and had huge upside a lot for different points in time. Honestly they're Asia's Philly Fusion

Tobi: You know how it is NineK if one thing changed with your Hotba strategy or Rascal not waking the monkey

NineK: I had a team with Tobi and Carpe and caught the 2nd place curse

Tobi: Woah why are you blaming me I've won plenty.

NineK: I did too before meeting you guys

Tobi: Then it's Carpes fault

NineK: I guess it is lol

Aid: At this point we need to have Carpe on to defend himself

NineK: We're going to go watch his games this Saturday

Tobi: The Hollwood bug pissed me off too

(Vod review where Tobi popped Valkyrie in spawn and the D.va bomb from Choi killed Tobi in the respawn room) this and Viol2t living at 1 health

Aid: Wow you guys are just destined to not win that day

Tobi: It was everything against us honestly

NineK: Honestly in the regular Hog comps Seoul and Dhock were about even but Seoul couldn't beat Shocks Hog and Ball Comp

Tobi: I actually wanted to go Numbani here instead of Hollywood

NineK: I remember at this time Choihyobin was getting gapped by Hanbin a bit and all of us joked his time was over and Hanbin would replace him as the new offtank goat

NineK: I remember at this time Shock felt Bdosin was scarier. They took more maps with him. Even though they defended better with Creative

Tobi: I think at the time he wasn't getting too much scrim time so he just said to let Creative play

Topic 6 Coach Tobi

Aid: You came back after being a player for Fusion to being Head Coach of Seoul Dynasty how was that for you?

Tobi: I kind of just stopped feeling the desire to compete like "I definitely can still compete mechanically but guess it might just not work out from here"

Tobi: Was worried that newer players he hadn't yet played with wouldn't follow his leadership well

Aid: So who was the player who least listened to you

Tobi: Everyone below me followed very well

Aid: So did you work well with the other coaches given it was mentioned there were previously conflicting visions?

Tobi: Oh these people were later coaches and we had very good talks together and worked well together

NineK: Since we wanna wait for our other guest when we talk about the next topic let's move on and talk about our time together in Fusion

Tobi: There were a lot of regrets weren't there?

NineK: The biggest problem for me was I didn't know we would be playing in Korea when I made the roster and heard it from someone from another team.

NineK: I felt sorry to Carpe for that. He's like Seoul where certain key moments not working out it feels like de-railed everything for him.

Aid: What did you think when you joined and first got to know NineK?

Tobi: When I joined I did so because I heard so much good stuff about him. Like he just knows a lot about Overwatch so I was curious about him and learned a lot. There's Crusty NineK Moon and Rush that are the coaches that are very well talked about that I was curious about. I got to meet NineK and Wow I'd never believed someone could get so angry over this game he would slam on the desk yelling while coaching. But the thing was while doing that he would always be right about what he's saying

Topic 7: Moon Joins

(Moon joins the podcast because Rush was lagging out)

NineK: So is it true you sent offers to Tobi

Moon: I guess I should say hi first. My name is Coach Moon who tried to get Tobi every year but failed.

NineK: I tried that with Fury

Aid: Is one of the reasons you wanted to beat Seoul no matter what because you didn't get to recruit Tobi?

Moon: No actually around that time I got in a lot of trouble with my wife. She said I talked to Tobi more than her. This was before we signed LeeJaeGon

Tobi: In 2020 season Shanghai actually had a lot of players I wanted to play with. Fleta Lip and such. As well as just giving a better offer out right.

NineK: Void too.

Tobi: Yeah always keeps contact with him too. But I really wanted to run it back with Ryujehong one last time because of the regrets of our last 2 seasons together to redeem ourselves. But he ended up choosing Vancouver and as I ended up wanting to go to Shanghai instead, they ended up already getting LeeJaeGon instead

Aid: Man the timing has just never worked out for Tobi

NineK: When he was on Fusion with me he used to always joke "damn if I was on Shanghai at least I could've been winning while benched"

Moon: So at the time LeeJaeGon and Tobi were my first choices but LJG told me he didn't want to join because he wanted to go to Mayhem with other Runaway members and then Tobi was looking at Seoul so I almost ended up with no one. But eventually LeeJaeGon chose us and tobi reached out the day after that.

NineK: So you regret not getting Tobi?

Moon: I mean you can't argue this given our results...

Tobi: They did so well

NineK: Tobi would've made the team fun for you though. That season was really bad for us but we had a lot of fun

Topic 8: Seoul vs Shanghai KickOff Clash

Aid: It looked like Seoul was happier beating Shanghai in winners finals than beating Philly in finals

Moon: The thing was the situation was so terrible for us at this time. We were quarantined with nothing.

Tobi: This team was the one we wanted to beat more than anyone else. It's why Profit was crying at the end of it all.

Moon: I will say their strats against us were very good they deserved the win regardless of what circumstances we had

Tobi: This gave me PTSD cause there was a moment when we were reverse swept in May Melee where Bdosin got pulsed with Rally. I told Vindsim no matter what to hold your shield up when he has it and in this one moment in the VOD he got stuck by fleta but thankfully Profit clutched

NineK: I will say when we got to the Hawaii LAN Shock picked you guys at Shanghai and I'll just say I didn't want to pick you.

Aid: Ahh it was the eternal rivals (implying Crusty chose Shanghai for revenge)

Moon: This time was really tough for us and we had a bunch of retirements after this. I think we thought more about what we would get to eat the next day or when we would be able to go to a Koreatown for the food we missed

NineK: It was so long

Moon: Honestly it was the hardest times for us.

NineK: It was really tough for us as well lockdown was so long.

Moon: I honestly don't want to hear lockdown complaints from anyone around me. If we were offline and I told you our horror stories everyone here would cry.

NineK: I mean everyone suffered but this sounds like military stories lol. Like everyone thinks they had it the hardest. Anyways Tobi tell us how you did things that led to that win.

Tobi: So you know there are things a lot of us say behind the scenes about coaches right? Like this guy is more of just a caretaker or this guy is more just strategies but I really wanted to be the coach who wouldn't have players feel bad I was their Coach. It's why I asked for a lot of help from previous coaches I worked under. I wanted all of my least favorite aspects of coaches I've seen in the past to not be things my players go through I let them all speak casually to me so they wouldn't be uncomfortable with me

NineK: Moon has the opposite take. He said his players can never act chummy with him and will always refer to him as coach

Tobi: My feelings were that I had previously worked with a lot of these players in the past so it feels okay

(VOD shows Seoul winning Kick off Clash 4-0 over Philly Fusion

NineK: Oh Carpes expression came out (literally half covered in shadows)

Aid: I didn't want to become a useless coach. Every explayer wants to be the opposite of the coaches they hated

Tobi: When I first won I was so happy to finally get a star under the Seoul Dynasty banner for Gen G.

NineK: I thought at the time though "all that for a stage win?"

Aid: We were like Wow they really are happy for a stage win

Moon: Well it was their first win of course they're happy and they beat us to do it

NineK: As coaches we can tell whether they just got lucky or actually were prepared. Poor Carpe though

Topic 9: Q & A

Aid: If you became a coach again and had to form a team which players would you want?

Moon: Wait but isn't the answer for those year very obvious?

Tobi: Yeah just erase Moons name and put me in

NineK: Then mix and match a bit

Tobi: Smurf Stalk3r Lip Chorong seems very good and then Shu

NineK: That's basically Crazy Raccoons. I'll just say this is cause he doesn't watch it

Tobi: I watched all the big games actuall

Moon: If he was really keeping up with the scene wouldn't he have picked Donghak?

Aid: If Gen G or T1 asked you to coach or team up with Ryujehong again for OWCS?

Tobi: I already got an offer to play with them and said no

Aid: Oh really why?

Tobi: Cause I knew what would happen lol. The kids nowadays level of play is so high

NineK: Just for fun I guess

Tobi: Well yeah if I streamed it and stuff sure but the team even with me or without wouldn't have done well

Moon: Honestly the player gap between the experienced old guard and the new is high right now but you'd hope it would get closer by next year

NineK: More than player gaps I'd rather be worried about the coaching level. It's really just Moon Crusty Rush again. Tobi isn't coaching anymore either... so tobi this is to say coach again please.

Tobi: I did get an offer but the timing didn't work out.

Aid: Always the timing

Tobi: Before Falcons formed I think it could've worked but Smurf was gone and all the teams were formed and then I got the call and was a decent offer. But the timing was bad.

Moon: Where the players weren't available anymore. But just swipe them from their teams

Tobi: But I didn't wanna steal players with offers of contracts

Moon: Why not?

NineK: The difference between a dirty person and clean person

Moon: But the thing is they don't have contracts

NineK: Yeah wait they definitely would want money

Moon: That's my point he could've offered stability to more players in the scene

NineK: Then you are at fault Tobi

Tobi: There was a condition though. The org really wanted to win and asked if I could form a team to win.

Moon: Oh that would be hard (smiling in Crazy Raccoons)

NineK & Aid: (dies of laughter at the humble brag)

Moon: I did work really hard to swipe the good players.

NineK: Was it a foreign org?

Tobi: Yeah it was

Moon: I wish more teams came into the space

NineK: If tobi even at least coached Genesis they would've been better

Tobi: I did get that offer but said no

NineK: Didn't want to work for bottom feeder teams?

Tobi: Well I wasn't close with any of the players either

NineK: You shouldve just gone to orga offering up super teams and swiped like Moon did.

Moon: I just had a skeleton crew formed and did mine

NineK: Whatever it was it's just kind of sad Tobi isn't coaching actively right now is all

NineK: I like this question. If Coach Tobi could speak to player Tobi of the past what would you say to them?

Tobi: Probably to be sure of yourself and confident in your play and your decision. I used to basically fly to whoever screamed for help no matter who was in a bad position trying to help. I definitely learned afterwards and worked really hard to improve my Mercy

NineK: I remember at that time Yobi worked really hard to improve his Mercy and it was really good I agree. It's sad to hear given how things went for Seoul but it is a cool answer

Aid: ProFits from friend POV to players POV

Tobi: Profit whether as a friend or player was a great and reliable friend. Fits was the hassle

Aid: How so?

Tobi: Never listening always whining just a big baby. Cute little brother while Profit was a reliable friend

(Just chatting while looking for interesting questions)

Moon: I'm saying this now but Shanghai starting at 0-40 we worked so hard to hit that 40-40 and it took so long. We won so much and still took a while

NineK: A fun thing to ask whenever we have an ex-player is have they ever felt like watching a scrim they would do better?

Tobi: I have scrimmed actually. Vindaim was ill and in the hospital so I played. We won.

Ninek: You say yes to this question if you win the scrims if you lost you would say it didn't happen

Tobi: True

Tobi: Here's one about Seoul I like. Why did you when you had LeeSooMin and Krillin make Krillin a main support? The answer is Krillin said during Washington he got to try a bunch of heroes and LeeSooMin was pretty decent at Kirik at the time. I had worked one year with Vindaim and it was good for us so I hoped for the same to happen. The initial meta was good for us too until we hit the Sombra meta

NineK: I think the only ones happy to hit the Sombra meta was Atlanta

Moon: (struggling to find a good question when smurf comments in chat) Yo Smurf don't you need to go practice right now?

Moon: Sorry that was a joke

NineK: Oh I like that one

Tobi: So there's a question about our 2023 roster and I wanted to talk about it. Right after 2022 going into 2023 was to keep Smurf Profit then get Lip who was receiving some offers at the time keep Vindaim and get Twilight. This would've been my personal choice if I had the money to form my team but everyone ran out of money. I even had back ups for everyone but like Bernar planned but everything fell through

Moon: Do you regret picking up Void?

Tobi: No I don't

NineK: What about losing to former players of yours and stuff?

Moon: Want me to call Void and ask him what it felt like losing to the Fleta Tank?

NineK: Oh my god that sounds so good

Tobi: I think he's working right now

Moon: Oh that's right he would be working right now

NineK: Man I'm so curious. I hate losing to my former players

NineK: Wanted to know if back in OW1 you had a team fully built around you who would it be and would you win?

Tobi: Honestly looking at my history I'm kind of bad at forming teams lol. Honestly I could've been on NYXL in season 1 as well.

NineK: Wow.

Moon: I can say one thing. I've literally walked to his house before. He thought a lot about it. Like I didn't think it should be this hard a decision when I was so convincing.

Tobi: I just really wanted to run it back with Jehong one last time and Fearless wasn't in the planned roster at the time either.

Moon: True it was very early on in the team formation

Tobi: Yeah it's regrettable isn't it?

NineK: Tobi does make bad choices that's why he joined Fusion under me

Tobi: Timing worked for that time period though

NineK: Alright back to the question make your super team only caveat is you can't change them and have to run them seasons 1 through 6

Tobi: To be happily teamed with them Carpe Profit Gesture Fury...

NineK: Wait a second Ryujehong isn't being brought up

Tobi: We are excluding him from this but honestly there's way too many good flex supports so I don't know. Shu was really good but Viol2t is also nah just Shu.

NineK: Shu is fun and good.

Tobi: He's good at like everything. Even since season 2 when I'd play Mercy he would shoot me so much more than everyone else as Ana

NineK: When you went game 5 against MightyAOD any players that stood out to you?

Tobi: Did we go game 5 against MightyAOD? I genuinely can't remember the Lunatic Hai games that well outside of just like finals games anymore. I'm sorry but it's been years.

Moon: Ooh how did you feel about Prophet being on your team and then once he was dropped and went to 02Blast losing to him?

Tobi: He was good but the thing is whatever we put him on just didn't fit with how the team played and the Sombra meta was at its peak as well. We were tired and he was tired cause it just wasn't the best fit for either of us. I wanted him to keep doing well so I could be confident it was just a mismatch and that my scouting ability was still good. But then the meta swapped to like Widow Hanzo.

Moon: Oh wait so once again it's a choice Tobi made he regrets...

Tobi: Well no technically in the last game versus them we did win to be fair. Honestly though when he did win damn I felt low key a little bit upset/betrayed

NineK: Did you see him do the X on the Dynasty symbol spray?

Tobi: I didn't mind that all the players do that

NineK: Hears something funny for Moon to answer. " I heard Lip purposefully made sure not to wear the Fusion skins for Asia Finals is it true"

Moon: I specifically checked his PC to make sure he wasn't wearing it "Are you wearing a Fusion skin or not? Yes or no."

NineK: Wow you check their PCs?

Moon: Yeah I made sure none of them wore Fusion skins for Asia Finals

Tobi: Carpe might need to come on here at this point

Moon: I don't believe in jinxes like this but my players do so I did it just so they don't have to think for a second there is some Fusion curse that will make them lose

Tobi: Like you don't want unnecessary factors creeping into their minds

Moon: Exactly

NineK: Did you have any of those jinxes or lucky charms as a player?

Tobi: During Lunatic Hai I would on game days only eat noodle dishes and then we would win. I'd wear the same pair of socks for all the big games as well. But then I went to the League and kept losing and none of that stuff applied anymore

Moon: Yeah I don't believe in it as a supernatural force but whatever makes people more confident the better

(Randomly scrolling for questions)

Moon: I really did wanna try coaching Dynasty once.

Tobi: Why?

Moon: You know as a Korean it was kind of sad seeing the Korean team under perform I wanted to go there after my contract with Shanghai ended and try to get them a big win

Tobi: I see

Moon: Now that I'm thinking about it I never got an offer from Seoul ever

NineK: Really? I think I got an offer from Seoul basically every year since 2019

Moon: Oh one thing I really wanted to ask was how you beat the Infernal (Dynasty vs Infernal early 2023 when Infernal scrimbux was way better than everyone else)

Tobi: Oh that? They just played poorly.

Moon: I was so curious cause they were supposed to be so good

Tobi: Yeah they must have been nervous or something we didn't win cause we were better they were just worse that day.

NineK: When Tobi first joined Fusion he actually beat Dynasty and was so happy about it. He was such a good player to have he was on the bench for quite a while initially but kept his mental up and was a very good teammate for us.

Final Words

Tobi: I'm not actually retired from coaching. I still keep up with the League and love the game. I hope Overwatch keeps growing and I want everyone to know I'm not gone just yet. If there's a chance I'm ready whenever

NineK: Honestly I will say a lot of Overwatch kids have this issue not just Tobi where they hope opportunity will fall on their laps.

Tobi: I'll agree. It was my first time doing this stuff and I had no idea what the scene was going to be like.

Moon: I was very proactive and quick about it for sure

NineK: Do you have any team you'd like to join? Quickly before we end the podcast appeal to Moon for a job

Tobi: Well if you just give me the call I'm ready

Moon: Well one thing I will note when Tobi was talking about coaches he asked for advice on being a coach he didn't contact me at all? Even though we talked for hours?

Tobi: I only contacted the people I actually worked under. I didn't want to bother everyone with my questions. It's not like I could expect other coaches that don't know me as well would divulge their secrets

Moon: I would've. I think it would have been very cool if you asked for my help

Tobi: Well to be fair before you joined I did say Crusty NineK Moon and Rush were the coaches I really wanted to try working with

NineK: It's not too late Tobi he's here now

Aid: Anyways final thoughts from you Tobi?

Tobi: It's been a while since I got to see fans of Overwatch and sit down with fellow coaches. I hope you all keep supporting Overwatch University and myself in the future.

NineK and Aid: Thank you to Moon as well for helping us last minute.

Moon: It's no problem I saw Tobis face and wanted to join right away.