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So, You Wanna Study Irish Mythology?

One of the questions I get hit with a lot is “If I’m getting into Irish Mythology, what sources do you recommend?” It’s a sad, sad truth about the field that a lot of really valuable info is kept locked away in books and journals that the lay person wouldn’t know about (and then we wonder why information about the field is so bad.) So, I decided to compile a list of sources that I’ve personally used and found helpful in my time. It’s not a complete bibliography because, frankly, that would take up a TREMENDOUS amount of space and you’d be scrolling forever to find what you wanted, and I don’t AGREE with every single thing they say, and it’s by no means exhaustive (keep in mind: scholars from all over the field use mythological texts to study things as diverse as law, geography, tribal names, material culture, etc. and here I’m mainly focusing on sources that are JUST mythological-focused) but they’re a good starting point to forming your own opinions. The journal articles are, tragically, generally kept confined to academia, but….perhaps….if you were to ask around, someone might be able to provide you with a copy. As a whole, Celticists tend to be quite generous when it comes to sharing articles. 

List subject to change, check back as time goes on to see if I’ve added anything. Also, as always, feel free to either drop me an ask or a pm if you’re curious about digging further into a given text/figure. I can’t act as a consultant on a religious question; I’m a very firm atheist with all the spirituality of a dull spoon, except with the existence of ghosts. My interest in the Tuatha Dé is purely scholarly; all that I can say is what I know about these topics from the perspective of the medieval sources, but I can definitely do my best on that one front, and I won’t reject anyone who has a different interest in the Tuatha Dé from contacting me. 

This list only deals with the Mythological Cycle, not the other strands of the literary tradition that is generally if not uncontroversially referred to as “Irish Mythology”. For Fenian Cycle traditions, a similar bibliography has been compiled by Dr. Natasha Sumner of Harvard, here

Editions/Translations of Texts (many of these are available at UCC’s CELT archive or on Irish Sagas Online): 

Tochmarc Étaíne, Osborn Bergin and Richard Best 

Cath Maige Tuired, Elizabeth Gray (If you can and you’re serious about the field, I highly recommend getting the actual Irish Text Society Edition, which includes a wonderful index of every time a given figure shows up in other sources. An absolute must for a mythographer.) 

Lebor Gabála Érenn, J.R.S Macalister, 5 vols. (The entirety of this is available on archive.org. Personally…while the rest of it is obviously important and worthy of study, if you’re interested in just the mythological stuff, I recommend Volume IV, which includes both the Fir Bolg and the Tuatha Dé. Unless you really, really want to read five volumes of medieval Irish pseudohistory, the last volume of which was finished posthumously.) i ii iii iv v

The Metrical Dinshenchas, Edward Gwynn. (5 vols.) (These are difficult, with many scholars outright ignoring them except when absolutely necessary. These are in a later form of Irish, which means that, while some of the contents in them could very well be Pre-Christian in nature, they very much do reflect a later medieval world. Some of them are just as much about contemporary politics as they are about mythology, and many of them also bring in content from the Ulster Cycle and the Fenian Cycle. My personal favorites to look up are Tailtiu, Carn Hui Néit, Duirgen, and Carmun, though there are MANY others.) i ii iii iv v

“The First Battle of Moytura”, John Fraser (Note: It’s a VERY late text, with the question of the Fir Bolg/Tuatha Dé battle and how far the tradition really goes back being one that’s very important to keep in mind. It’s a personal favorite of mine. But it’s very late.)

Baile in Scáil, Kevin Murray (Thurneyson also did an older edition that’s more readily accessible, hence why I linked it here, but Murray is the most recent and up to date.) 

“How the Dagda got his magic staff”, Osborn Bergin 

Oidheadh Chloinne Tuireann, Richard Duffy (This is an Early Modern Irish text, so it was written down comparatively late. That doesn’t mean that there’s NO mythological content here, it’s a personal favorite of mine, but it means that it very much reflects the cultural context of around….the 15th-17th century or thereabouts. It’s very chaotic, very violent, and the heroic figures are….not….heroic.) 

Scél Tuáin Meic Chairill, John Carey

Echtra Nerai, it’s available in a fairly recent translation by John Carey in Celtic Heroic Age (pub. 2003) , listed below, though Kuno Meyer also did an edition/translation for it that I’ve linked to here. 


Books

Proinsias Mac Cana, Celtic Mythology (Personally, I’d recommend this one first - It’s designed for someone who isn’t a specialist and, while a lot of what he’s saying has been disputed back and forth, it’s still a handy primer and will get you into the myths.)

John Koch and John Carey, The Celtic Heroic Age (Once you have an idea of what you’re looking at, I recommend this one, since it’s a sourcebook. A TON of material from across the Celtic world, featuring classical sources, medieval Irish sources, and Welsh, all of it in one place.) 

Mark Williams, Ireland’s Immortals (I personally recommend you read this one after you read CHA, giving you a bit of context for what Williams is saying here.)

O’Rahilly, Early Irish History and Mythology (note: A lot of what he says here is no longer considered recent in the field, but his knowledge of his own sources is, frankly, without any other peer. Use with a grain of salt)

John Carey, The Mythological Cycle of Medieval Irish Literature

Kim McCone, Pagan Past, Christian Present

Koch, Celtic Culture: A Historical Encyclopedia


Articles

John Carey, “Myth and Mythography in ‘Cath Magh Tuired’”

John Carey, “Donn, Amairgen, Ith and the Prehistory of Irish Pseudohistory”

Proinsias Mac Cana, “Aspects of the theme of King and Goddess in Irish Literature” 

Máire Herbert, “Goddess and king: the sacred marriage in early Ireland.”

Gregory Toner, “Macha and the invention of myth” 

Elizabeth A. Gray, “Cath Maige Tuired: myth and structure“

Thomas Charles-Edwards, “Tochmarc Étaíne: a literal interpretation”

Tómas O’Cathasaigh, “Cath Maige Tuired as Exemplary Myth” 

Joseph Nagy, “Close encounters of the traditional kind in medieval Irish literature” 

Mark Scowcroft, “Leabhar Gabhála. Part I: the growth of the text” 

Mark Scowcroft, “Leabhar Gabhála. Part II: the growth of the tradition”  

Joseph Nagy, “‘Talking myth’ in medieval Irish literature.”

John Carey, “The Location of the Otherworld in Irish Tradition” 

Máire Bhreathnach, “The sovereignty goddess as goddess of death?“

John Carey, “Notes on the Irish war-goddess.” 

Veronica Philipps, “Exile and authority in Lebor gabála Érenn” 

Kevin Murray, “Sources of Irish mythology. The significance of the dinnṡenchas” 

pillowprincessvarric

*touching his extremely defined six pack* who did this to you.....

invisiblefoxfire

*gently lifting a cup of water to his lips* it's going to be okay. *choking back tears* just a few more sips and then we'll get you a sandwich...

cloverandcrossbones

Reblog to give a glass of water to every dehydrated actor with shrink wrapped abs whose life was endangered for a shirtless scene

bloodyl1ps

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this post hasn't left my mind since i've first saw it

sonicrainbooms

people jest but this is literally how i worked out i was gaslit for like 15 years of my life

aphony-cree

People who “want trauma” are recognizing, on some level, that they were traumatized but in a way that’s not “socially recognized” as trauma. What they really want is for people to see that they’ve been traumatized and be on their side

portraitoftheoddity

I think it’s also important to talk about mental illness, and how the pain and trauma of being mentally ill as a kid is often diminished because of the lack of outside actors. If you spent your childhood being suicidally depressed because your wee little kiddo brain decided to be a chemical shitshow, it doesn’t matter how much mom and dad loved you, that kinda thing fucks you up. And having people only look at your external surroundings and argue that “nothing bad happened” ignores all the pain you went through internally. So wishing you could have something external you could point to in order to justify that pain and enduring stress -- just so people could understand -- makes sense. 

elfwreck

It's not so much "I wish I had been traumatized" as "I wish I had a name, an event, an explanation for my trauma that other people would understand and accept."

wizardnuke

redemption arcs that double as tragedies!! you're a better person than you've ever been and you have nothing left to your name!!you have to rebuild yourself and your life from the ground up and you're smiling in the ashes!! you were devastated your life is ruined!!! nothing is ever going to be the same ever again you are never going to regain what you had you are never going to be free of the guilt you are never going to be able to go home there is nothing left for you!!! you are free you are more yourself than you've ever been!! fires help forests grow!!

Do you have a favorite musical composer or director? If so, why are they your favorite!

Tough question, but I do maintain that I do, genuinely, like Frank Wildhorn’s work.

Okay – Pretty much all the critical reviews of his stuff are 100% accurate. The man often sacrifices plot and characterization to spectacle and pop ballads, but…there’s something to be said for SPECTACLE, isn’t there? We’re living in an age where Broadway is increasingly….un-ambitious. Which you could argue has been the case for ages now, but it’s not getting *better*. I grow weary of the endless putting down of jukebox musicals; I think they’re a valid art form and a valid approach to musicals, but the truth is that we DO currently have no fewer than three currently on Broadway at the moment. The age of the overblown gothic spectacle has been swept away by this sleek, modern musical that is increasingly embarrassed of the fact that it’s a musical to begin with.

And…Frank Wildhorn is many things, but chief among them is EARNEST. He genuinely BELIEVES in his musicals and in romance and in love ballads and sword fights and adventure, and it shows. Yes, the time I spent with Wonderland was 2 hours of my life that I’ll never get back, but STILL. He *cared* about it. He LOVES spectacle, he loves over the top stagings that draw you into the world of the musical, he loves period settings and that scratches a specific place in my id.

He also, genuinely, LOVES villain songs, and it shows. His most iconic songs are, overwhelmingly, the villain songs – “Life after Life” from Dracula, “The Reign of Terror” from Robespierre, “I Will Prevail” from Wonderland, “Falcon in the Dive” from Scarlet Pimpernel, “Monster Inside of Me” from The Man Who Laughs, “A Story Told” from The Count of Monte Cristo, either “Hurricane” or “The Game Begins” from Death Note (depending on if you view a “villain song” as belonging to a villain or an antagonist), “You belong to me” from Carmen (though imo, Zuniga is Wildhorn’s most vile and terrifying villain, yes, even in competition with Hyde), “You and I” from Svengali…the man GETS villain songs and how they work, and it means that his villains, imo, are often more charismatic and interesting than his leads (who are often, again, imo, bland self-inserts who hurt the women around them, who take it with a loving smile because they are the Madonna in the Madonna-Whore dichotomy…which could be interesting if it was explored more but is often taken for granted.)

This is especially true with his female villains which…I know we’ve discussed this before, but it’s so GREAT to see female villains get VILLAIN SONGS. There truly aren’t that many female villains in musical theatre, fewer who actually…are allowed…to be villains. It feels sometimes like, even though we’ve improved so MUCH even since I first started being a musical fan, about….14 years ago…there’s still an expectation that women’s songs in theatre should be Girl Power songs, or sad, or soft, and…that’s great, but sometimes, *I* want to be the badass, powerful one. Also pretty lady step on me. Morgana from XCalibur (even though she suffers from some tragic writing in both versions of it) and Hatter from Wonderland, even though they’re not EXEMPT from sexist writing decisions, ARE badass, when they’re allowed to be. Likewise, Lucy from Jekyll and Hyde (again, who isn’t exempt from sexist decisions) gets some of the most iconic songs from the musical. Mina from Dracula, ditto– “Please Don’t Make Me Love You”. Carmen and Mata Hari (and, again, ditto for not being exempt from sexism) both have their OWN shows, and, imo, are presented in a way that tries to understand them and gives them some really strong songs that get to the heart of why they are the way they are. I’m forever in MOURNING for “If you Only Knew” from Jekyll and Hyde, since it REALLY got to the heart of Emma/Lisa’s character in an interesting way (likewise for “Lisa Carew” from the concept album). “Viva” from Carmen is a great example of a woman just…enjoying life and enjoying living life, while “I Can’t Go Back” from Mata Hari is a great exploration of Mata’s fears, her anxiety over being dragged back into a life she’s terrified of leaving behind.

The man is a middle aged straight white male composer – fine, but also…how many composers are perfect? It’s a matter of choosing what flaws you’re willing to live with and which ones you aren’t. Plenty of people are fine with, for example, Kunze and Levay’s, and I feel like they do less but claim more re: their depictions of women. I feel like Frankhorn…does *try*, especially since marrying Wao Yoka, and I think that he does love her. I think that she’s really helped him expand his repertoire and his range as far as his subject matter, and I think that his move to Japan (specifically, Takarazuka) and Korea as far as his focus is probably for the best, as it allows him to do what he wants with an audience who will actually appreciate him.

thefloralmenace

If you're struggling with the cost of living right now (reasonable), this is your PSA to...

  1. Google universities/colleges near you.
  2. If you can't get out to more than one, look up which one has the highest tuition.
  3. Look-up when the graduation date is
  4. Drive neighborhoods near the university the week before graduation

So much stuff gets left out on the curb. Wealthy college students tend to prioritize convenience over money, so instead of carefully reselling their perfectly good stuff, they frequently give it away or put it out with the trash because that's easier than moving, reselling, or donating. Take advantage of this.

I furnished pretty much my entire apartment from college giveaways and yardsales.

What I got for free:

  • Mattress and box springs
  • 2 10 ft area rugs
  • The massive 9-drawer chest (that has a label on the back that it was custom-made and shipped across the country) that my TV sits on.
  • Two 13 x 2 ft raised garden beds
  • My desk - just sanded it down and refinished it.
  • Three short stools
  • An organizer rack
  • Watering can
  • Tommy Bahama outdoor cooler (retails for $350)
  • Chairs
  • Shelves

What I got for cheap:

  • Two futons for $50
  • Custom coffee table with storage for $25
  • Three tall stools for $30
thefloralmenace

Seeing all the tags where people are warning that picking stuff up OFF the curb is illegal in their area has the same vibes as the oranges in Grapes of Wrath, and I hope all your city councilmen get eaten by the live furniture from Monty Python.

prismatic-bell

If it’s illegal, do it at night or on the last day of classes.


I once got a working DVD-VCR combo machine that also played CDs, working, for free, out of a dumpster during move out week.

marzipanandminutiae

in Boston, not only is it not illegal, it has a name and radio station Twitter accounts wish you a merry Allston Christmas every year in September

(in university-heavy areas, leases tend to turn over with the school year. so even non-students participate)

I will say this, though- be VERY careful with textiles and bedding you get off the curb. stick natural fibers in a plastic bag in the freezer for 48 hours to kill off possible moth eggs; wash everything on hot before use to kill off possible ringworm. at the very least, vacuum upholstered furniture when you get it home. curb-scoring is best for hard, non-porous objects unless you saw something just brought out and you know the people giving it away

one time I carried two Victorian chairs with needlepoint seats a mile home, on foot, because they were on the curb and I wanted them. godsspeed