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What do you think about that?

What do you think about that?

What do you think about that?

I remember watching the 1993 disney movie The Three Musketeers starring Kiefer Sutherland, Charlie Sheen, Chris O'Donnell and Rebecca D eMornay.

Rebecca plays the evil Milady De Winter and after being caught for her crimes she gets sentenced to death - the film actually shows the musketeers accompanying her to her execution and she kneels down and an executioner with a huge sword gets ready to decapitate her - the film shows all this and during a moment of distraction she commits suicide by jumping off the nearby cliff.

it was a kid's movie and they gave you the full impression that they were going to show her character being decapitated but in the end it is "okay" because they don't show it, they instead show her committing suicide!

the first time I watched this scene I was horrified because they make it seem like they will actually show her being beheaded! I have always been shocked about how they allowed such an inappropriate scene in a Disney movie, I know the 90s were a different time but still! they could have just had a character say the execution had been carried out, without ever showing it.

Any other shocking scenes like this?

I’m sure this has been asked before, but I’m curious. I just finished watching Requiem for a Dream about two minutes ago (the credits are rolling as I’m typing this) and I don’t really have the words to describe the emotion I’m feeling…

There's a Tarantino interview where he talks about using a song so perfectly in a film that the song is permanently linked in people's imaginations to the way it was used in the film:

"When you do it right and you hit it right then the effect is you can never really hear this song again without thinking about that image from the movie. I don’t know if Gerry Rafferty necessarily appreciated the connotations that I brought to ‘Stuck in the Middle with You’ there is a good chance he didn’t.”

The same can be said for iconic locations. I was watching the new Fallout T.V. show and a key scene takes place at Griffith Observatory. It's an iconic landmark for Los Angeles in its own right but seeing it (especially seeing it represented in media) immediately makes me think of Rebel Without a Cause. Even going to visit Griffith Observatory in person gives me a sort of nostalgia for a time in my life that never existed.

I was wondering what some other examples of this are and I think Rebel Without a Cause is kind of a special case. There are movies like North by Northwest or Planet of the Apes that use the gravitas of the location to heighten the emotion of a pivotal scene and build a sensational action sequence or shocking twist. But Rebel Without a Cause, at least for me, created associations with a place that I never otherwise would have cared about (not being from Los Angeles). It holds a place in my mental landscape, has a sort of gravitas of the imagination that is completely linked to the tone of the film.

I can't quite think of another film that does this so well but would love to hear some ideas. Especially films that, like Tarantino's Reservoir Dogs example, brought connotations that seem to contradict what the place might otherwise represent.

I'd also be interested for those that agree about the uniqueness of Rebel Without a Cause, about how you think Nicholas Ray accomplished this. Was it just a perfect pairing of tone-story-location? Is it the particular way the location appears in the film (e.g. the compositions and editing)? Is the atmosphere of the film so thick that it just attached itself to the location itself? Is there something about the symbolism of observing the universe in a giant but sort of isolated monolith somehow linked to the film? Or to James Dean?

Since fictional films/TV shows in-universe are crucial elements of Millennium Actress and Perfect Blue (plus recently BenDavid Grabinski and Griffin discussed the fictional TV show created for Scott Pilgrim Takes Off), I started thinking about other movies with fictional media that I would pay my hard-earned bucks to see. What I came up with:

1. "Coming Up Daisy", the rom-com Frances McDormand's character sees on dates in "Burn After Reading", starring one Dermot Mulroney

2. "It's Not My Problem!", the doltish TV show in "Robert Cop" with the catchphrase "I'd buy that for a dollar!"

3. I'm sure there are more that Blankies can come up with that would make me go "OOOO, yes please"

Additional note: The spaghetti that Clemenza makes in The Godfather still makes me hungry and I want some.

I recently watched Turtles All The Way Down (it's good, but nothing special). Spoilers I guess, but the movie ends with one character telling another about all the hopes she has for her future, and we see a montage as she describes marriage, and a career, and having a baby, and all that.

It's touching and well done, but it mostly reminded me of how insanely well the same type of montage is done in 25th Hour. To be honest, most of that movie doesn't click for me as well as it does for some others, but the last 5 minutes can easily send me into tears.

What are your favorites? Some other ones I can think of that do this well are Gangs of New York (not a flash-forward for the characters, but for the city) and the final episode of Six Feet Under (TV, not movie, of course, but man is that finale perfect). What are other good ones?

I was thinking about watching movies at second run or discount theaters the other day and I discovered that very few of them still exist. The last time I went to one was to see The Force Awakens a few weeks after it opened. The theater I saw it at became a first run theater not too much longer and eventually closed when it was torn down so a Costco could be built. There is still one open by my parents’ house and they charge $5 for a movie. Twenty years ago, second run theaters would show movies that were released a month or two prior. Now, that time has decreased significantly. The theater by parents showed The Fall Guy and Challengers which opened one week and two weeks ago respectively.

First, I just wanna see some hot takes on this list because I think it does show the best of cinema but it can get pretentious at times. Second, today I watched The Holdovers and I kinda wished I liked it more, so yeah I just wanna see your hot takes on the movies on that list because I like to prove that art is subjective.

PD: Please explain why! I'm very curious!

Second PD: Okay no more Interstellar, EEAAO, Fight Club or Whiplash. It's not only because those are some of my all-time favs but it's also because I want more variety in terms of the hot takes and not just everyone throwing either a hot take of a popular movie or of a "film-bro" one.

Third PD: You know what? Actually, say your hot take and name a movie that should take the position of that movie in your opinion. For example my take is The Holdovers and I think that Mysterious Skin should take its place (it's an amazing movie please go watch it)

I’m looking for a movie that will inspire me to do hard work to improve myself, be more disciplined and stop procrastinating and seize the day. I don’t really have any examples of this, so I’m asking you guys!

Thanks!

Curious how everyone here feels about rotten tomato scores when it comes to horror? I know the audience that makes up that score can vary wildly and I have very often disagreed with scores. Some of my favourite movies have low scores (mainly comedy) and sometimes low scores have been very accurate.

I find it’s uncommon for horror to have a good score and if it does, it’s usually more on the side of psychological thrillers than core horror.

What do you think?

For me it was Logan Lucky, which stole the core of the heist from 11 Harrowhouse (a 1972 book that was made into a movie in 1974). I'd read the book (never saw the movie), and my jaw dropped at the painted cockroaches/cake setup.

That's a very unique heist - vacuuming the loot out of a vault, having identified the correct tubes via painted cockroaches that find their way to food left in the vault - but I can't find any credit given to 11 Harrowhouse or the author.

Anyone else been jumpscared by an uncredited book in the middle of a movie?