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[–]Unhappy_College 199 points200 points  (90 children)

I hope DMZ turns out good, I think I’ll be way more into that than BR mode. I’ve been craving a more casual friendly Tarkov.

[–]wav__ 40 points41 points  (9 children)

I haven't looked into DMZ much, but if that's what it is I'll be taking a hard look at it. I liked The Cycle: Frontier for a bit, but it didn't hold me for some reason.

[–]Bout73Ninjas 29 points30 points  (8 children)

The Cycle is not solo friendly in any way, that’s what killed it for me. You pretty much have to play with friends to get anything done. Hopefully, DMZ is better in that regard, cause I’ll play the shit out of it if it is.

[–]deathkraiser 12 points13 points  (3 children)

I believe at the moment DMZ is trios only, however it will auto-match you with a team if you don't have one

[–]xChris777 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Really, it doesn't support 4 players? Bummer :(

[–]deathkraiser 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They'll probably add quads sometime later down the track if it's not immediately available already

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In launch trailer they said it solo and teams making an extraction game teams only will kill it pretty fast Because you can't plug randoms together in extraction stuff because everyone has different things they need to do

[–]KerberoZ 5 points6 points  (3 children)

None of the currently existing extraction-shooters are solo-friendly tbh. But the imbalance in team sizes also heightens the tension (for me at least).

And you can absolutely solo all these games, just not as guns-blazing

[–]Bout73Ninjas 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Idk I did a fair amount of soloing when I played Tarkov, and I found it way more rewarding. In The Cycle, you just don’t really have much of a chance against a group of players, or some of the harder enemies. In Tarkov, the nature of the low TTK and slower pace means that a smart player can easily out-maneuver a group if they come across one.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Marauders is kind of solo-friendly. More so than Cycle or EFT anyways

[–]Depth_Creative 77 points78 points  (28 children)

It just looks like normal warzone with a loot/extraction mechanic. I wouldn't put much stock in it.

Nothing beats Hunt Showdown right now IMO. Not as hardcore as Tarkov but still very unforgiving with a high skill ceiling.

[–]Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws 23 points24 points  (9 children)

I just feel like I always get sniped in Hunt

[–]Depth_Creative 16 points17 points  (7 children)

The thing I like about Hunt is I don't see any playstyle that's super dominant. Outside of maybe Mosin/Upper cut sweats which is only at higher levels of play and has subsided with recent price increases to both weapons.

Shotguns are just as prevelant as snipers if not more so. I've actually seen way more crossbow players now as they increased the price of the Romero shotgun which was dirt cheap before.

[–]BeardyDuck 6 points7 points  (6 children)

It depends on what MMR you're at. If you get put into a lobby with 5 or 6 star players, it's almost always going to be a waiting game as they'll most likely have snipers and just camp out boss lairs.

It's why I always intentionally nuke my rating to 4 stars so I don't have to deal with that nonsense.

[–]deadhawk12 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I often hear this from players but disagree, I play duos at 5-6 with an extremely aggressive playstyle because I don't have the time on this Earth to sit for 30+ minutes dealing with mosin campers.

Usually the answer is to stack grenades and utility items + use Packmule & Vulture to smoke them out if they're hiding, and otherwise to move fast and with intent. The term 'Violence of Action' is applicable to Hunt because players don't fire quick enough to react to fast plays, and closing the distance when you're packing a Terminus with Levering (or something else close range) and they're running a bolt-action basically always spells a win. In general, it comes with more risk but also more reward given how fast you can sweep unprepared enemy teams.

It also helps to have a Duo partner you play consistently with. Me and my friend synchronize our plays so that we know our enemies can only focus on one of us at a time.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I find hunt has the most frantic and memorable gun fights, whenever I enter a compound old gunfights come back to me with such clarity…but it’s an exhausting game I often hesitate to play. It really is high and lows in that game.

[–]It_came_from_below 6 points7 points  (4 children)

can you play hunt solo?

[–]Depth_Creative 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I play it all the time solo. It's way more intense and scary IMO. After you play for a while the horror elements wear off but playing solo keeps the fear levels high lol. You will be going up against other teams of two and potentially other solos. I see solos and play solo myself relatively often. When you get better at the game it's not super hard and in some ways easier. You don't have to worry about your teammate making noise for instance.

It's also easier to remain stealthy when playing solo.

There's also a quickplay mode that's all solos but I've literally not played a single match of it.

[–]It_came_from_below 3 points4 points  (1 child)

oh that sounds great! likely pick it up during the next sale!

[–]submittedanonymously 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Some of my best matches are done solo. Plus I like antagonizing people who have the kill trophies. Only a few times have I stolen them or killed and looted their corpses and escaped.

But sometimes I go in just to make them sweat on their exit and let them leave but try to make them fight for every last second. I like to think I’m giving them the “HOLY SHIT WE DID IT!!!” Moment. It was word of mouth that got me to buy the game so hopefully it’s making them really like it too. I will do this all the time on free weekends.

[–]Unhappy_College 4 points5 points  (8 children)

I absolutely love Hunt, Just wish they’d do a next Gen update for consoles. I have it on PC, But all of my IRL friends are PS5 players, So I tend to stick with whatever they can play on.

[–]BlackGuysYeah 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Hunt did get a nextgen update some time back. It runs at 60fps on ps5 now.

[–]Depth_Creative 2 points3 points  (5 children)

I'm exclusively PC but I can sympathize.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

Hunt feels pretty dated in a lot of aspects. Animations, sound, graphics etc... Would love to see it remade on a more modern platform.

[–]Depth_Creative 4 points5 points  (2 children)

You have to be joking, The graphics are top notch with some of the most in-depth and detailed environments in a multiplayer shooter. The maps look "lived in" and are densely packed with foliage. The interiors look like actual houses and stores and not oddly sparse blank rooms like most MP shooters. This is especially impressive considering the size of the maps. Which are gigantic.

It quite literally has the best sound design in any pvp game to date.

Seriously, the sound design is near impeccable, no other game comes close and is a huge part of playing the game and it's learning curve. I honestly cannot think of a single other game that does sound as well as Hunt and honestly it's ruined other pvp games for me as their sound systems frankly suck. It's in perfect sympatico with the game design. Also the menu music by Port Sulfur band is excellent.

The animations are lackluster on the Hunters and some of the creatures. That is an area that could be seriously upgraded. I assume you play on a console. Which is a second rate experience for sure.

[–]soonersthebetter 21 points22 points  (5 children)

If you're looking for a more casual Tarkov then check out Marauders. It's early access, and definitely feels it, but it's a lot of fun.

[–]Knale 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I just don't love how claustrophobic it is. Love the vibe and style, but too close range for my blood.

Super glad people are enjoying it though. I want this genre to flourish.

[–]JuiceboxThaKidd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's by far the most refreshing genre/subgenre in FPSes for quite some time

[–]Sceptre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There might be some early access jank but the gameplay feels great. The fights are satisfying and the weapons are fun.

Been really digging it, solo and with friends.

[–]achmedclaus 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Don't get your hopes up. If you want casual friendly eft then you should play Hunt. From what landmark showed us, dmz looks like they took the concept of the battlefield 2042 extraction mode and slightly improved upon it.

[–]SalamiJack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The Hunt is really not casual EFT. The Cycle is a better comparison.

[–]SalamiJack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The Cycle is fantastic and free if you haven’t checked it out.

[–]MrAbodi 3 points4 points  (6 children)

what is this DMZ mode?

[–]Ephialties 7 points8 points  (5 children)

warzone, without the circle and with objectives (disable SAM, rescue a hostage, find intel etc,). You can extract from extraction points when you feel like it.

you have AI enemies in hotspots and also other players trying to do objectives/extracting.

[–]MrAbodi -1 points0 points  (4 children)

What’s the goal?

[–]Ephialties 12 points13 points  (3 children)

no idea, have fun i guess?

[–]MistakenWit 14 points15 points  (1 child)

what kind of perverse game is this

[–]MrAbodi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok thanks

[–]FilthyPeasant_Red 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's really not Tarkov though... not even casual tarkov...

[–]Cerater 302 points303 points  (57 children)

The "2.0" is for how many terabytes it is.

Jokes aside is this really a second release or is it 2 in the same way that overwatch is?

[–]ImWearingBattleDress 251 points252 points  (2 children)

It's a new game.

This is a sequel to Warzone in the the same way that Modern Warfare II is a sequel to Modern Warfare.

New guns, new maps, new skins, new core gameplay (I mean, it's still Call of Duty, so you know what you're getting there).

Nothing at all carries over from the previous game baring a few returning weapon models like the Vector and some attachments, this is an entirely separate game.

[–]lovethecomm 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So the skins etc are all gone?

[–]Varizio 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nono, you can buy them all over again.

[–]elmodonnell 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Download is less than 50gb for preload, but we'll see

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (8 children)

Download is 17.5GB, surprisingly.

[–]NoAnimator3838 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Which platform?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

PC

[–]Rachet20E3 2018 Volunteer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is that the installer size or or the actual game it self? I know the installer for MW2 is like 50GB while the game is 55.

[–]2ndBestUsernameEver 1 point2 points  (2 children)

That has to be the download size if you already have MW2 installed. I wonder what the size is if you didn’t buy MW2

[–]DrVagax 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I lately realized how much the size of a game impacts my willingness to download/play something. I really think twice before hitting download on for example GTA V (100+ GB) because I need to be sure I wanna play it and I will remove it quickly when I don't play it, but something like 17.5 GB I would just leave around on my SSD and play whenever I feel like it.

[–]PhatYeeter 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Original Warzone will continue to exist from like early Dec going forward. WZ2 is very much a true sequel.

[–]Living_Actuator_7211 105 points106 points  (34 children)

Its a "true sequel" in the same way MW2 is to MW 2019.

I find it hilarious that they basically "Call of Dutied" a BR, you may not realize it but Warzone 2.0 has no carry over whatsoever meaning everything you bought/grinded in the previous BR/Live service is thrown directly in the trash.

Imagine Apex or Fortnite releasing a 2.0 and deleting all the stuff you have been buying and unlocked for years lol. Activision really said "lets kill off our live service title in 3 years lol".

[–]Qbopper 89 points90 points  (8 children)

Killing off warzone means they can unfuck the game on a technical level and keep 2.0 going for longer without immense amounts of tech debt + the awful way they just pasted stuff from every game in

It was 1000% the correct choice, it's really annoying how people blast warzone (correctly, to be clear) for the technical issues and bloated file size, but also get upset over the only reasonable solution lmao

(And no, "just fix warzone" is not a reasonable solution, this IS them fixing warzone)

Also, the old warzone isn't being turned off

[–]Living_Actuator_7211 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Except you think they wont fuck it all again lol not to mention they will be porting over a massive amount of the things you bought in WZ 1.0 just to sell it to you again and it will again lead to inevitable bloat that "fucks it up" with them having to repeat it again in 3 years yet again.

Destiny did this exact same thing and even claimed the same bullshit, in the end it was just another way for them to sell you the shit you already paid for.

[–]Able-Equivalent-8740 4 points5 points  (6 children)

well they COULD have transfer your purchased operators, skins etc over into the rebuilt 2.0, but Activision chooses not to.

[–]RdJokr1993 26 points27 points  (4 children)

You're just suggesting they transfer the bloat from one game to the other, which is what they were trying to get rid of in the first place by making WZ2.

[–]Able-Equivalent-8740 22 points23 points  (3 children)

The bloat is in the data structure and engine leftover, not models and skins. Or do you think there won't be even more skins for sale in WZ2.0? They rebuilt the game for the capacity of supporting more customizations. In fact I bet they will charge you a second time for some of exact same skins, as "returning fan favorites".

[–]RdJokr1993 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Of course new skins will be made for WZ2, but we aren't just talking about pure cosmetics. We're talking functional weapons as well. And MWII/WZ2 uses a completely different Gunsmith system compared to the last 3 games. You can't expect the devs to just plop in 3 games' worth of guns into WZ2 again and expect them to function properly. Not to mention how much of a balancing nightmare it will be to balance all those guns again, on top of MWII's weapon roster, and whatever the next 2 games will have, in addition to rumored expansions.

[–]Geraffe_Disapproves 3 points4 points  (1 child)

My brother in christ, the guy specifically mentioned transferring cosmetic items. Nowhere in this conversation did anyone suggest carrying over old weapons.

[–]RdJokr1993 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh I’m sorry, are gun skins not considered cosmetics now? Or do you think there’s a way for those to carry over without bringing the guns into the game?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those folks fucked up by paying for MTX in a game that was never gonna last as long as something like Fortnite. They should just take the L and move on. This may seem like a defense of Acti but it's not, I think they could do better (they won't, look at Overwatch 2).

Thinking that all of your purchases in a COD game would carry over is naïve as hell. And I'm willing to bet the same people mentioning it will thrown down over a 100 bucks on cosmetics in the first six months of WZ 2.0.

[–][deleted] 179 points180 points  (16 children)

Warzone needed to be thrown in the trash.

Guns from 3 fucking games all with unique gunplay feeling. Which ak47 did I pick up? Is it the one from mw that does more damage or the one from cold war that has better accuracy?

[–]BellBilly32 45 points46 points  (11 children)

I agree but that’s because they did the integration the worst way possible. It could have worked with even the smallest bit of care but they fucked it up so hard.

[–]TheodoeBhabrot 53 points54 points  (1 child)

You’re right so they get exactly 1 do-over since warzone was an unexpected smash hit and they clearly didn’t know how to handle it

[–]TheSchadow 10 points11 points  (0 children)

We are proud to announce Warzone 3 will be launching later in 2025, and again, none of your purchased MTX can be transferred over (but we will gladly sell them to you again)

[–]Penguin_Admiral 26 points27 points  (0 children)

The problem was that they never intended for Warzone too be as popular as it was, and thought it die once the new CoD came out similar to blackout

[–]myyummyass 12 points13 points  (2 children)

There is absolutely no way you can blend three different games weapons and balancing. This needed to be done and I'd rather have all new shit to work towards anyways.

[–]neurosisxeno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I picked WZ back up when CW was migrated over, and it was a broken clusterfuck. A bunch of the CW guns were exponentially better than the MW ones, and in some cases you had multiple copies of the same gun, but 1 was notably better.

[–]Richmard 5 points6 points  (3 children)

By fucked it up so hard do you mean they created an incredibly popular product that made them tons of money?

[–]GhostTypeFlygon 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Can't wait for them to shove 3 more cod's worth of content into warzone 2 and for them to delete it because of bloat.

Looking forward to the highly innovative and inventive warzone 3 in 2026.

[–]Spooky_Szn_2 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Presumably it'd be in 2027 minimum since Cod's going on biyearly now. Next year will be premium dlc for MW2, then the year after will be Black Ops 2, then the year after will be premium dlc for that then the year after maybe we get Modern Warfare 3 with Warzone 3.

[–]Chris1671 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I mean...it was free so....unless you paid for microtransactions, then that sucks

[–]aroundme 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Which plenty of other non long term games have. MTX doesn’t mean the game is going to go on forever

[–]thedylannorwood 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Well unlike OW or other BRs, Warzone 1.0 isn’t going anywhere. Although it won’t get any new content, Warzone 1.0 will still exist and get technical support for as long as it’s viable

[–]Living_Actuator_7211 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I can tell you dont play these games because you think this is preferable.

Nobody playing WZ 1.0 is like "yeah its awesome they are not deleting this and instead just literally moving all development and the entire playerbase to another game. I am so glad all my purchases and unlocks will forever be immortalized on this abandoned game I can revisit and see no one playing".

[–]thedylannorwood 0 points1 point  (1 child)

  1. I actually do play play OW and Warzone, they are my main multiplayer games rn.

  2. I never said said i had any preference, I was just explaining that OG Warzone is still sticking around

[–]Living_Actuator_7211 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But its pointless, nobody who plays Warzone 1.0 is glad its getting abandoned and nothing is moving forward for what should have been a live service title. I didnt buy anything for it but knowing this is simply Activisions style of having you buy a bunch of shit for a game they eventually retire very quickly cements the reason why I never would buy anything from them in those games.

[–]soonerfreak -1 points0 points  (1 child)

At least it still exists and will have a team supporting it, unlike OW1.

[–]Living_Actuator_7211 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It wont have a team supporting it and its nothing like OW1 and not in a positive way.

OW2 is OW1, all your stuff is there, its the same game with simply a massive patch applied to it. The fact that people think that people prefer the abandoning of the title and playerbase just to sell the players everything again tells me you dont play either of these titles.

[–]NerrionEU -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's a sequel in Call of Duty sense, it is a new game content wise but it will feel almost the same as Warzone 1.

[–]MooCube 40 points41 points  (9 children)

Maybe a dumb question, but if I have MW2, do I need to download it separately, or is it available from 'inside' MW2?

[–]rikutoar 27 points28 points  (2 children)

Should be inside mw2, iirc it has data packets for warzone 2.

[–]IamEclipse 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Yes, Warzone 2.0 is a data pack for MW2.

Same launcher, but if you don't want Warzone 2.0, then you can just delete the data pack and keep MW2.

This is different to the last game. If you wanted to install MW2019, then you had to install Warzone too.

[–]BonfireCow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh my god, finally. I HATED having forced Warzone bloat if all I wanted to do was shoot the shit in Gunfight

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yeah that’s a good question, idk

[–]Tiktoor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It’s a separate download

[–]Aprahamian 48 points49 points  (12 children)

Any word on if it is going to be on Steam?

Looks like it is with the update and if you have mw2 purchased it is added already for anyone curious.

[–]ak47rocks1337yt 39 points40 points  (1 child)

Yes it’ll be on Steam!

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[–]Rellik_pt 23 points24 points  (3 children)

[–]Brillica 30 points31 points  (2 children)

LOL, good old useful Steam tags.

Includes tags you've filtered out

Anime

It's also tagged Hentai, Sexual Content, LGBTQ+, and Nudity.

[–]Harry101UK 6 points7 points  (1 child)

The tags are community generated, so naturally every game has anime and sex tags.

[–]yeeiser 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Every kids game has the "psychological horror" tag

[–]generalthunder 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I've already preloaded, only a bit over 20gb I'm impressed.

[–]CinemaGhost 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I don't know if the requirements were copy pasted from Modern Warfare 2, but it says you need 125GB available space.

[–]Cohibaluxe -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

170GB on PC.

[–]Turmoil_Engage 5 points6 points  (2 children)

The real question is whether the install is required for MW2 to run, since they attached Warzone to MW19 like a tumor.

[–]RdJokr1993 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Warzone 2.0 is an optional install pack for MWII this time around. However, both games still share a large amount of assets in the base install.

[–]Lionfyst 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I am excited for this. As a person that had been playing Black Ops Cold War a lot, it felt weird to play WZ based on another base system, engine and mechanics etc.

I am up for playing a WZ based on the MW2 I am playing for MP already.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (1 child)

Awesome.

(honestly you could put me sitting on the couch to Free Bird and it would still be awesome)

Still awesome though.

[–]westphall 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I like how they edited an ending to the song even though in real life it just fades away.

[–]KproTM 81 points82 points  (38 children)

Hmmm. Nostalgic.

Warzone was the game that really felt like an experience I could not have imagined prior to quarantine. I've always wanted to play in large game modes with many other players, always when I was young imagining Call of Duty 4 or Bad Company with over a 100 or more players.

Then I was introduced with Warzone. This game made me feel like they took the Suspense/Thriller genre you feel in cinematic movies, shot a massive dosage of Michael Bay action, throw in some special forces shenanigans and you've got yourself Warzone. It was such an intense feeling going in with the people I knew I could trust or just have fun with.

I hope I can get the same, if not more than the previous Warzone. All you have to do is build upon what you had in the last game and add new mechanics. I definitely felt the verticality movement introduced in MW2 was a big component imo!

[–]joeban1 28 points29 points  (8 children)

Nostalgic? The game is 2 years old

[–]error521 32 points33 points  (3 children)

anyone remember that retro gem, Elden Ring?

[–]AWWWYEAAAAAAAAAAA 4 points5 points  (2 children)

You should check out the witcher 3 - hidden gem also.

[–]Nisheee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You’re joking but that game is already more than 7 years old. Feels like it came out 3 years ago at most. Time flies

[–]Stiryx 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s like 20% of the entire life of the player base CoD is targeting so 2 years is a long time.

[–]AWWWYEAAAAAAAAAAA 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I have no idea what the fuck that's guys comment is about.

Nostalgia, imaging games with 100 players and then Michael bay movies and cod 4.

Complete nonsense. It's like someone who has cherry picked games over the past 20 years but turna out to be 12 years old lol

[–]Nisheee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah it feels like coming from a very young person.

[–]thedylannorwood -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Some people are more nostalgic than others

[–]Hendrik239 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I like the standard multiplayer deathmatch games but in warzone I feel like im walking for 5mins and then get blasted from who knows where and its not enjoyable to me. am I playing it wrong?

[–]aroundme 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have to watch the circle. See where it’s going and where it’s been. Map out a route instead of just dashing to safety. If you play a bit more slow, you can be the one doing the blasting!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

100 players has existed in games long before warzone.

I'd say warzone is a poor experience for what you're looking for since usually in Battle Royales 30-40 players die in the first 10 minutes

[–]anotherwave1 10 points11 points  (17 children)

I know nothing about this (I know, I know) and never played. Will just be one mode, Battle Royale? Or will there be other modes?

[–]16intheclip 25 points26 points  (15 children)

There will also bei DMZ, which is an extraction shooter (like Tarkov or Hunt Showdown).

[–]Pool_Shark 9 points10 points  (14 children)

What is an extraction shooter?

[–]16intheclip 27 points28 points  (10 children)

You go into a map, do something (PvE, PvP, quests, ...) and try to get out alive with your loot.

[–]mandlar 0 points1 point  (9 children)

so basically The Division?

[–]Swineflew1 6 points7 points  (7 children)

Sort of, think of the darkzone, but as a BR and you can lose your equipped loot when you die.

[–]Headless_Human 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I am pretty sure you can only lose stuff you haven't extracted and you can't lose your loadout.

[–]Swineflew1 5 points6 points  (3 children)

then wtf is even the point of extracting gear when you get to keep your main loadout anyway?

[–]Franz10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From what Ive seen.. your insured weapon has a cooldown. So if you die with your custom loadout, you will have to wait like 8 hours before you can use it again.

Thats when you start using weapons and loot you got from previous extractions.

[–]xhrit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

better gear then main loadout

[–]MadeByTango -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

God, if the best cosmetic stuff is locked in that mode I’m going to be really pissed; I hate losing PVE shit I already earned to another player that has no life and will always be better than me

[–]Shad0wDreamer 7 points8 points  (2 children)

There are activities to do on a large map, with AI spread around the map to fight. But players are doing the same thing, and you CAN fight them for their loot, or work together to get things, or just talk to them in game chat and make an agreement to not engage so you don’t all lose your stuff that you got in game. It’s also persistent, meaning stuff you get (to some degree, I don’t know how much it will save in DMZ) you can use in other matches.

[–]Pool_Shark 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Ohhh that sounds very cool but I fully expect cod players to kill everyone and turn it into another mode where they can improve their K/D

[–]Shad0wDreamer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There’s not nearly as many players in this mode as the BR mode. The map is definitely filled with more AI, and some places are ‘strongholds’ that have more difficult and deadly AI that offer good things to loot.

And if you die, that’s it, there’s no coming back as far as I’m aware. It’s a game where hearing the player activity and player placement is a lot more important than running and gunning. It’s going to be a mode that’s not as popular to the general audience but beloved by players who like a slower paced CoD.

[–]funkhero 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I assume it will have Plunder mode like the first warzone, which wasnt a BR and instead a big free-for-all not too dissimilar to Battlefield. You just competed for money by getting loot by finding it, killing people and taking theirs, and completing contracts.

By avoiding the BR mechanic it meant you played the whole length of the game, same as everyone else.

[–]CraigTheIrishman 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm reading that there will be bots in Warzone 2.0. Does anyone know if that means there will be a separate Combat Training-esque mode where you can familiarize with Warzone and just play against AI?

I haven't played Call of Duty in a decade, but if I can ease into this new paradigm then I might give it a look.

[–]Semyonov 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's bots in DMZ, I didn't hear about there being bots in regular WZ2.0 though.

[–]DavidFC1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would love it if combat training made a comeback. Made dealing with my shitty internet a lot easier.

[–]Adius_Omega 0 points1 point  (6 children)

I can't stand battle royale games anymore.

It's such a fucking try hard sweat fest I simply can't compete

[–]Iodolaway 25 points26 points  (1 child)

It's the best time to play it however - since everyone will be playing it upon release and the concentration of sweaties/cheaters will be at its lowest.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

100%. BRs are always so much fun at the start.

[–]Roler42 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Don't play them, problem solved.

[–]DavidFC1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You can just ignore them.

[–]McFistPunch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Pubg actually feels pretty casual now. I really do still enjoy it because there isn't really exciting and points. Usually I get a decent party of strangers and chat a bit and sometimes win and if you don't at least you have some good fights. Only in fps mode though.

[–]Adius_Omega 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I played a bunch of H1Z1 then PUBG when it released. Move to Blackout after that and then Apex for a bit. Once Warzone came out I was just totally fried by the formula and honestly couldn’t compete with the absolute sweat.

[–]Joaquin8911 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm 33 and suck at FPSs now but I'm exited anyway. Glad to see it's coming to Steam.

I have yet to play the campaign but I am waiting to see what Microsoft ends up doing with Call of Duty games and Gamepass, I am also not paying full price for the short COD campaigns, as much as I like them (I would not play the multiplayer).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You'll likely be waiting till at least next summer before finding out any MS plans for COD

[–]JCarterPeanutFarmer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The decision to locate the map in a desert is an interesting one. Not sure how much staying power it will have when the environment is so bland?