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We'll its simple, the culture they are producing is crap. Their best midfielder in Sloane actually threatened a lady with chop sticks and threaten to stab her in the face.. Oh wait that was another clubs player.. OK, well what about the young indigenous boy who was on the front page snorting coke.. Oh wait another clubs player as well hey... Well OK you can't say it isn't true our captain was caught drink driving before a finals campaign can you?? Oh it was another clubs captain that did that with no suspension?? Ok but surely its wrong that the club left Sam Shaw on the list to keep getting paid and help him get through his operations and such, costing a palce to a rookie.. I mean cmon that's the epitomy of a classless club ehh. A team that consisted of no top ten pick and also had two basketball players a rugby player and a cricketer. An actual blue collar team and it seems the footy world thinks they're arrogant. All I can say is our captain didn't drink drive which COULD have caused the death of someone. Our midfielder didn't threaten to stab a woman because he couldn't handle his drink. So please let me know how out club is worst then Richmond Hawthorn and such who try their hardest to brush over things that are ten times worst then a player having a problem with an ex teammate. Also Fagan didn't call Goode's a fucking monkey. That'd be another Vic team full of class.