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Alchemy Stars
Official English subreddit for Alchemy Stars, a strategy mobile RPG by Tencent and TourDog Studio!
Hello, Reddit!
We're Team BethelFrankel, and as the title suggests, a group of dedicated, top-ranked end-game players who have updated and fully completed the world’s first comprehensive English tier list for Alchemy Stars. That’s right – an actual, factual, we-did-the-math, several-hundred-hours-of-blood-sweat-and-tears Tier List. It’s fully formatted, and has been the go-to reference for the Official Alchemy Stars Discord for a little over a month now. This includes not only a general landing page, but specific, highly detailed write-ups for every single unit in the game, divided by element, rarity, and class. The system has been means-tested against the hardest Spire floors (89, 96, 97, etc.) and Elysium, and the tiering philosophy has been refined in a process that took about three months. The tiering process has been (and will continue to be) open to the public so long as the discussion is constructive and well researched. We are happy to provide any math behind any given evaluation, and encourage you to test our math and playthroughs.
We are releasing this tier list today, about a week after fully completing every single write up, and in anticipation for the influx of Anniversary new players. Our goal is to make this an easy to use, easy to maintain tier list for beginners in this game, and our hope is we can get this pinned on the subreddit somewhere, so that frequently asked questions (How good is my starting roll? Is X or Y good? How does so-and-so’s kit work) can be minimized. As mentioned, the tier list will continue to be a relatively open-source project that anyone can contribute to. If you’d like to get involved, there’s more info on how to do so below.
Some notes:
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Please consider reading our FAQs. Alchemy Stars is a complex game full of varied stages and mechanics. In our tiering, we’ve done our best to examine units’ effectiveness not only generally, but in the specific situations in which their kits shine and balance that with the relative frequency and difficulty level of those scenarios. We think this is the proper way to create a tier list, as well as a resource to allow people to learn more about the game. That said, it’s not perfect! Which leads us to our next note –
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As always, this is a Tier List, and Tier Lists have opinions. While we’ve worked a truly backbreaking amount to get this off the ground with what we believe are closest to objective evaluations, you’re probably going to have a bone to pick here or there. It’s okay to disagree – in fact, we encourage you to leave us feedback (just be nice!). Speaking of,
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This is a (relatively) open source project. This is an open source project, and anyone and everyone is allowed to partake, so long as they’re respectful. If you would like to leave feedback, just DM fourmana (fourmana#0477) on Discord or here on Reddit. He’ll try to reply to what he can. If you would like to edit, join the thread we maintain on the Official Alchemy Stars Discord (located under #questions as a thread titled #Updated AncientSpark Tier List). We can be reached there pretty much 24/7; however, we suspect there may be a massive influx after this post.
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One final, very important disclaimer: This is a distant fork of the AncientSpark tier list that some of you may know from the early days of this game. If you’re unfamiliar, a reddit user created an incredible tier-list in the early days of the game, but grew too busy to properly format it, or keep it updated after Endgame. In December of 2021, our team member fourmana approached him and offered to help. Since then, he's completely reformatted the entire tier list, cut down on a lot of Excel bloat, and worked with members of the official Alchemy Stars Discord to properly re-tier a lot of older units and add new ratings for all new units. We have received explicit permission from AncientSpark to continue in this manner, and we credit him with a majority of write-up work. AncientSpark isn’t really able to contribute as much as they used to, but we’re actively keeping them in the loop and they have full access to edit and change the sheet as they see fit. Transparency is our number one goal, both in how we tier and how we work. We will always listen, and try our best to answer.
Some credits:
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AncientSpark – Seriously, this person did so much of this list, and all by themself. This list would not exist without their insane work ethic and generosity. The general tiering philosophy was developed by him, as well as the approach to write ups.
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Fourmana – Took over the project from AncientSpark, and reformatted the entire spreadsheet to be easily readable. Fourmana also handled all the detailed analyses of units with input from the other contributors and provided valuable input. (Seriously, hats off to Fourmana. We wouldn’t have come together to work on this without them.)
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Reanimu – The person responsible for assembling our current team and moderating the open forum we maintain. Reanimu has been an invaluable source of math sheets, calcs, runs, and general level-headedness in a grueling project. Ask them about their old profile pic!
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AceZero – Another hardcore math geek, and the key figure in assembling the data, pros, and cons for all of the units past the release of Paloma. Ace has been an important meta-challenger, and we’ve discovered a lot of cool tech because of their tireless grinding and relentlessly friendly contrarianism. You can bother them here or at AceZero#2805.
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Neppity – Hardcore Frankel Codex fanatic who contributed extremely helpful insight to general tiering as well as how units perform on high-end teams. Neppity has been an incredible and consistent help with their evaluations backed with calculations and ample experience.
Anyways, thanks for reading. We hope you find this useful!
Team BethelFrankel
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Official English subreddit for Alchemy Stars, a strategy mobile RPG by Tencent and TourDog Studio!
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And its just more of the same.
Calamity Codex got upgraded so you can get farm(exchange shop currently doesnt reset from what i see) universal 6* dupe for nonlimiteds
Free pulls staggered behind logging in throughout the event
New units Mia and Shwartz are just..........another set of strong units on top of the other strong units that are strong.
I was actually wondering if I would get jebaited into spending, but thankfully the current state of the game does a great job of getting me to throw my money into path to nowhere instead
There's "stuff in the works", but I just dont see how tencent allows this game to survive until "stuff in the works"
Someone high up at tencent must really really want AS to work
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Official English subreddit for Alchemy Stars, a strategy mobile RPG by Tencent and TourDog Studio!
We celebrate gacha games. Game and industry news, discussions, resources, memes, and some occasional drama. All players and fans are welcome!
Official English subreddit for Alchemy Stars, a strategy mobile RPG by Tencent and TourDog Studio!
We celebrate gacha games. Game and industry news, discussions, resources, memes, and some occasional drama. All players and fans are welcome!
Official English subreddit for Alchemy Stars, a strategy mobile RPG by Tencent and TourDog Studio!
Official English subreddit for Alchemy Stars, a strategy mobile RPG by Tencent and TourDog Studio!
We celebrate gacha games. Game and industry news, discussions, resources, memes, and some occasional drama. All players and fans are welcome!
About myself: Hello I'm Pepi#1567 and im an active Member of the Alchemy Stars Discord since it was created (11/04/2021). I first joined the Community Discord on the end of march and had a chance to participate on both Closed Betas on this game. I spent most of my time with Theorycrafting rather than playing on the First CBT. On the Second CBT, I cleared the current content of Alchemy Stars (I was doing 14-16 hours streams and speedrun the game basically).
Characterlist from Araetha
Due to high request i created a Guide with all Information I could possible find through every means possible and with the effort of everyone in the Discord we could create a rather comprehensive Guide for Alchemy Stars.
If you should have any other questions feel free to join the Discord and the Discord. They are very helpful and knowledgable on the game! Hopefully see you ingame!
P. S. The guide was taken down by google for unknown reason. You can find all information you need on the Japanese wiki:
My guide cant be shared anymore in any form just use the links above, ty.
greetings
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Official English subreddit for Alchemy Stars, a strategy mobile RPG by Tencent and TourDog Studio!
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Official English subreddit for Alchemy Stars, a strategy mobile RPG by Tencent and TourDog Studio!
We celebrate gacha games. Game and industry news, discussions, resources, memes, and some occasional drama. All players and fans are welcome!
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