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[–]Konukaame 594 points595 points  (15 children)

While certainly plausible, given that data from the last few round shows a peak in protection 2-3 weeks after a booster, that then declines after 2-3 months, even if a 4th shot were approved right now, I'd save it for when we see signs of a new wave of cases, so as to maximize protection when it's most needed.

[–]notathr0waway1 33 points34 points  (0 children)

It would be too late

[–]ColonelBy 93 points94 points  (3 children)

I'd save it for when we see signs of a new wave of cases, so as to maximize protection when it's most needed.

What would qualify as such a sign for you, in that case? Here in Canada it's difficult to say, as many provinces are no longer testing anywhere near consistently, but in the other countries in which I have family (the UK and the Netherlands) there had been a steady downward trend since January that reached a trough at the end of February before spiking back up again significantly over the past two weeks (from high ~20k+ new cases per day to high ~60k+ new cases today in both places). This is not insignificant.

[–]Konukaame 25 points26 points  (1 child)

I look at a combination of local COVID hospitalization data, positivity rates, and total case numbers, and a significant multiweek uptick in any one of them would be concerning.

More hospitalizations means that COVID is spreading again and its bad. Higher positivity means it's spreading again but we're blind to how much is really out there. Higher cases just means it's spreading again, but given that Omicron was supposed to have mostly burned itself out, it'll be an indicator that immunity is waning or something's otherwise bypassing existing immunity.

My state has a good data crunching community, so even as statewide reporting drops to onece a week, there are a half dozen or so people squeezing as much info as possible out of what we're given, so if something shows up in our local data, there will be people ringing whatever alarm bells they can.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Along with this, I suggest looking at waste water covid surveillance, if there is one in your local area. These have shown to give some advanced warning in upswings in covid counts.

[–]nonoinformation 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As someone from Germany, I'd say that we need a new round of shots about now, because our cases have been on the rise as well. Seven-day-incidences Edit: I mean new cases, not incidence per 100.000 people, are at a high of ~194k nationwide, trend is rising. All of my friends and acquaintances are getting sick and I'm getting warnings from my covid app left and right. A fourth shot could cool it down a little and give us time until summer comes..

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (4 children)

I'd be fine with getting a shot every 6 months or year if it means I don't have to worry as much about being close to elderly or ill family members.

[–]oathbreakerkeeper 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Were aboutt to have a new wave. It already started in Europe

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    [–]irh1n0 758 points759 points  (4 children)

    Hi I'm CEO. Looks like you need more of my product.

    [–]SpiderFnJerusalem 47 points48 points  (0 children)

    I half expect he said that just to boost the stock value.

    [–]Dennis_Hawkins 25 points26 points  (0 children)

    this is why the US should seize the patents and open them all.

    and pharmaceutical production should be largely nationalized.

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      [–]jdorjeBoosted! ✨💉✅ 318 points319 points  (2 children)

      So show us the phase 1 data on multivalent vaccines and start prepping them for use in those fourth doses.

      [–]Wut_Faced 115 points116 points  (0 children)

      This. If I'm going to get another dose, I want it to have the latest patches.

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        [–]grimace24 1510 points1511 points  (79 children)

        It’s funny how a CEO is pushing a fourth shot. Yet, medical experts said no need at the moment. The WHO just said a third was needed last week and this guy is talking about a fourth. Let’s see where we are in a few weeks buddy.

        [–]FuguSandwichBoosted! ✨💉✅ 79 points80 points  (0 children)

        Yet, medical experts said no need at the moment.

        It's not even just that medical experts are SAYING that, the DATA from Israel showed that the increase in immunity from a 4th shot was an order of magnitude lower than the increase from the 3rd shot (~5X vs ~50X) and started waning after about 10 weeks. It may be that eventually we will need another booster, but there doesn't seem to be any evidence in favor of giving it to everyone 5-6 months after the 3rd shot.

        [–]Hot_Camp1408 574 points575 points  (21 children)

        Didn’t this happen for the booster also though. Pfizer said it was necessary and govt dragged it’s feet but eventually concurred.

        [–]Turkilla 123 points124 points  (0 children)

        Yep. Doesn’t mean it will always be right or applicable to the current situation though. Drug companies have their data months before the FDA and CDC get to review it in full. That also mean the societal conditions in which his recommendation comes from is likely a few months old as well. All depends on how the virus evolves.

        [–]Imaginary_Medium 223 points224 points  (0 children)

        That absolutely happened.

        [–]1haiku4u 81 points82 points  (11 children)

        Pfizer has the data sooner than the government. Obviously, the CEO wants more shots, but given the number of eyes on this, I’m guessing he wouldn’t push a fourth shot unless the data suggests it is needed.

        [–]PT10 29 points30 points  (8 children)

        Omicron is raging China and some other countries. The risk of a new variant or a second Omicron wave is high.

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          [–]Chicken_Water 60 points61 points  (0 children)

          Every single time in fact.

          [–]LikesBallsDeep 45 points46 points  (1 child)

          Yep, first the US government said you don't need them, then it was super important! But at least they came about quickly, the WHO literally only last week finally admitted boosters were needed.

          I'm all for trusting the science but uh.. can we get some actually trustworthy experts to trust?

          And no, it's not due to new data. All the data showing the original two doses waned significantly by 6 months was available by Fall 2021 at the latest.

          [–]inco100 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Imho, the more that virus drags on and mutates, the bigger chances of needing an adjusted vaccine. Like, not surprised at all of needing 4th, even 5th in an year or so. That shit is still living and spread around. At some point, they will also start making more generic/improved vaccine aaand there we go again. Like, nobody should be surprised.

          Just my dumb 2c.

          [–]waaaman 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          Well they can’t just mandate something without getting their kickbacks first.

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            [–]CJYP 10 points11 points  (0 children)

            If they do ask us to get a fourth shot, I'll probably wait until it looks like another wave is starting. If it's going to wane after 10 weeks I'd rather have the full protection at the height of a wave than between waves.

            [–]Uhhhhdel 28 points29 points  (2 children)

            I would rather they develop it and get it approved just in case versus keeping it on the back burner then have to scramble if Covid flares up again.

            [–]JumboJetz 141 points142 points  (13 children)

            “Medical experts” we should learn by now, are very behind for fast moving situations like pandemics.

            Medical experts in power advising government don’t seem to understand the precautionary principle.

            They waited months and months for evidence to accumulate before recommending masks, they waited months and months for evidence before boosters were recommended.

            Medical experts in policy positions are far too conservative. They are the type of people that would want to see a year of traffic accident data before recommending seat belts.

            [–]Imaginary_Medium 115 points116 points  (2 children)

            I'm going to jump in and take some of those downvotes with you and say I would have preferred a much more proactive approach.

            [–]TurnaboutAdam 26 points27 points  (1 child)

            Proactive masks yes, proactive medicine can possibly be dangerous

            [–]Imaginary_Medium 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            I think they waffled back and forth and dragged their feet on boosters a bit long.

            [–]gruey 21 points22 points  (0 children)

            I believe smart, fast, thorough precautions would have absolutely decreased the total impact of both covid and the precautions from covid.

            Instead, they were more cautious about taking precautions than they were about covid.

            [–]doktorhladnjak 11 points12 points  (0 children)

            The whole vaccine regulatory apparatus is not set up to react quickly in a pandemic. It was designed for endemic diseases like polio or flu.

            [–]flossdog 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            exactly. WHO was refusing to call covid a pandemic until it was too late and had already spread everywhere.

            WHO and CDC also insisted that there was no evidence that covid was aerosol, so masks were not that important.

            They could have been more proactive in those areas and more cautious, but they were reactive and late with their decisions.

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              [–]Veganlifer 8 points9 points  (16 children)

              Funny how your same exact comment was made about 3rd dose on here.

              [–]ywBBxNqWBoosted! ✨💉✅ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              The Pfizer CEO isn't a doctor-for-humans (he got his PhD and DVM so he's a doctor-for-animals) but even though I think he's a pretty smart dude I will wait for consensus.

              [–]Nickovskii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Money talks. This guy has the network and money to talk with WHO

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                [–]cnh25 51 points52 points  (1 child)

                Meh, my 3 shots + Covid infection will probably be all I manage this year

                [–]EelTeamNine 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                Same. 3rd dose in November, mild case of covid in February. Barring another variant of "concern," I'm probably not getting a booster again until Fall, or at least that's the plan I'm considering.

                [–]kpineapples03 107 points108 points  (19 children)

                I want to know the stats of how many people will get this vs how many people want to stop at 2 shots vs those not vaccinated vs how many ppl in all three groups ended up getting covid. I can’t wait to see this data in the future

                [–]Backyardfarmbabe 35 points36 points  (3 children)

                I'll get boosters in the future if a case for health benefits can be made.

                [–]Runsfromrabbits 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                As long as you don't end up falling for the base rate fallacy that's a good question to ask.

                Pretty sure 100% of the world population will have covid at one point or another. The main difference will be how serious they get it. Those vaccinated already have a certain amount of antibodies to fight it and so far much less end up in the emergency room compared to unvaccinated.

                [–]kpineapples03 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Father Time is undefeated, we shall see

                [–]dablegianguy 18 points19 points  (4 children)

                I got a severe Covid in April 2021. 3 weeks in ICU, 9 in total with respiratory assistance. The invitation to vaccination calme a few days after I was in the hospital... due to VERY high level of antibodies, the docs advised to postpone the vaccine until that level dropped significantly. I eventually got the 1st dose on 22 December. The second, mid-February.

                I thought I was about to die 24 hours after the first dose. Back to April but with stronger fever and spasms. But the real fun came with the second dose... 40c fever for 12 hours, convulsions so strong I thought I was about to break my spine, muscle stiffness, etc...

                Now, my antibodies are even higher than when I left the hospital. I haven’t obviously made the 3rd dose and this dose will wait a LONG time before I do it!

                [–]MagnarOfWinterfell 17 points18 points  (1 child)

                I'm pro vaccine and even got my booster, but I know someone who spent a week in hospital after her booster. She had a much milder reaction after her 2nd dose, but ended up getting the booster because it was required for work.

                Maybe getting a booster isn't a great idea because you likely have enough protection already, and there may be a possibility of a severe reaction if you do.

                Edit: This person is a Dr of Pharmacy, and definitely pro science and pro vaccine. If she believes this was due to the booster, I believe her.

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                  [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                  I'm double vaccinated but opted out of the booster because I had a bad reaction to the second shot and I was worried about how I'd react to a third. Then I got a cold and was knocked on my ass for weeks. I recovered and got Omicron a month later. The cold and the 2nd shot were worse than Omicron (for me, YMMV). I don't mind getting future boosters if they're formulated for the latest variants of concern though.

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                    [–]grim_f 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                    T-cell researchers must be going out of their minds with this shit.

                    [–]aazo5 33 points34 points  (0 children)

                    Sounds like an Onion article lol

                    [–]orkel2Boosted! ✨💉✅ 407 points408 points  (70 children)

                    I've got 3 shots (2 pfizer 1 moderna) and I'm not getting a 4th until it's updated for Omicron. The ancient vaccine doesn't cut it in 2022.

                    [–][deleted] 77 points78 points  (3 children)

                    Rather than a variant specific booster (which doesn't seem to do much compared to boosters against the original strain), a better thing to hope for would be a nasally administered vaccine, to promote mucosal immunity where the virus most commonly gets into your body.

                    https://twitter.com/VirusesImmunity/status/1486510697332842498

                    [–]AmIHigh 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                    I really hope these are ready for use before the next respiratory season.

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                      [–]jcepiano[S] 248 points249 points  (16 children)

                      The issue is that the original vaccine has shown better coverage across variants than the Omicron specific version did in laboratory tests. Given that Delta is still spreading in some places and that ba.2 is already more mutated than original Omicron (ba.1) than alpha was from the wild type virus, they think the original has a bigger umbrella of protection against severe disease than shifting to an Omicron specific vaccine.

                      [–]yes_im_listening 59 points60 points  (8 children)

                      I think the sentiment expressed is original + omicron booster. Or a booster that contains a combination of the original plus omicron. At least that’s what I would think.

                      In a similar way, I think a few months ago, Moderna was working on something similar - a booster that covered the original + delta (this was before Omicron).

                      [–]doktorhladnjak 44 points45 points  (5 children)

                      They've tested targeted vaccines for every variant of concern. None have performed better than the vaccine targeted at the original virus type.

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                        [–]Alastor3 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        Do you know which version between pfizer or moderna was the laboratory test for the omicron specific version?

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                          [–]PartySundayBoosted! ✨💉✅ 23 points24 points  (1 child)

                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_antigenic_sin

                          [–]rt80186 21 points22 points  (0 children)

                          We do not have any data supporting OAS from the original vaccine. To date, all variant specific vaccines have only evaluated antibody response a few weeks after vaccination which is insufficient time for affinity maturation to occur. The immune system has no problem with handling variants in other hCoVs and I would find in surprising if SARS-CoV-2 was different.

                          [–]cronasminate 52 points53 points  (13 children)

                          I personally don't care. They can shoot me as me booster as needed. It's just a fucking booster. You get a flu shot every freaking flu season. Meanwhile everyone doesn't take a second thought when taking 3 shots of vodka every weekend.

                          [–]haklorBoosted! ✨💉✅ 64 points65 points  (7 children)

                          The flu shot never put me down for an hour, much less two days like the booster did to me. Doing that every 6 months will quickly become an avoided thing for me even though I was front of the line for both the original dosing and the boosters as soon as they were available.

                          Don't get me wrong, if real coverage and effectiveness of the shots do really wane as much with the booster as it did with the first doses then I will get it, but I'm not going off the word of the Pfizer CEO for it, even if I end up waiting an extra month or two for it.

                          [–]Angelworks42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          Maybe it's my crappy immune system (I'm 45) but I actually just powered through the fatigue and it only lasted a day. 3x Pfizer fwiw.

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                            [–]Kingbrandon 20 points21 points  (2 children)

                            “just a fucking booster”—the booster takes out some people for days…

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                              [–]chaoticneutral262Boosted! ✨💉✅ 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                              An Omicron vaccine is only going to be effective against descendants of Omicron.

                              [–]knots32 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              Recent data I thought showed a strain specific vaccine didn't beat the original

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                                [–]benyboy123 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                                I honestly don't think that the CEO of a company who could gain so much money from it being necessary is the best source. It is way more important what scientists and doctors say.

                                [–]Angy-Person 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                Just hand out 10L buckets to people so they can put a spoon full in their morning coffee every day. Im vaxxed but this is getting ridiculous.

                                [–]tetradetrapetra65 49 points50 points  (3 children)

                                I'm vaxxed + boosted - but until our lead doctors say something about a 4th I'm not going to take it. The vaccine flared up many issues in my body (all of which are dealt with now with medication) but it was harder on me than having Covid was. I had original Covid and Omicron.

                                [–]imLissy 25 points26 points  (2 children)

                                The first two shots for me were nbd, but I feel like I still haven't recovered from the booster. I think I'd rather take my chances getting sick.

                                [–]RBJII 218 points219 points  (12 children)

                                Company making money off of vaccine recommends 4th shot. I am shocked!

                                [–][deleted] 64 points65 points  (3 children)

                                I think ive had enough.

                                [–]ehaugw 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                Well he’s no biased at all

                                [–]cbarrick 93 points94 points  (10 children)

                                I believe in science. Show me the data that implies I need a fourth dose, and I will get one.

                                This isn't science. This is a CEO trying to puff up his stock.

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                                  [–]JumboJetz 138 points139 points  (19 children)

                                  I look forward to seeing 4th dose efficacy against infection. Long covid is very serious. An outcome I hope desperately to avoid.

                                  I already know my existing 3 shots make death and hospitalization very unlikely. So it’s now infection I want to protect against to make long covid much less of a risk.

                                  [–]Liagala 90 points91 points  (8 children)

                                  Israel did some testing on it and if I remember right they found results to be underwhelming. I think it was great for those with weakened immune systems, but didn't add a whole lot for everyone else.

                                  [–]mjkrow1985 56 points57 points  (4 children)

                                  Lots of the folks in the Israeli study weren't that far out from their original booster. I'd like to see what the data looks like for folks with a longer gap.

                                  [–]Liagala 21 points22 points  (0 children)

                                  True. That might change things.

                                  [–]Fernald_mc 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                                  Yes, but we literally can't measure that yet as not enough time has passed since the boosters were issued. Therefor, it's stupid to already be advocating for a 4th shot on almost no data.

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                                      [–]NeverLookBothWaysBoosted! ✨💉✅ 29 points30 points  (1 child)

                                      Right there with ya. As long as it's kept affordable I'm up for getting a sore arm for a day as much as possible to avoid the destructive nature of the actual virus.

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                                        [–]AradIori 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                                        "Nece$$ary"

                                        [–]webdevguyneedshelp 93 points94 points  (6 children)

                                        Sorry buddy. This isn't sustainable. We already saw a dramatic decrease is people getting the third shot. If a fourth is necessary then we are just fucked.

                                        Make a new vaccine. Stop trying to peddle your old inventory on us.

                                        [–]DoubleReputation2 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                        O..kay.. So at which point do we assume that the vaccine doesn't actually grant you immunity for life and say "One shot a year" or something like that? .. I mean, you sound like you don't know what you're doing.

                                        [–]slayemin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                        Profits are down, cases are down, shareholders are getting restless… how do we make more cash? Let’s advocate for a fourth shot!

                                        [–]HauntingEngine8I'm fully vaccinated! 💉💪🩹 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                        Trying to stay relevant when no longer occupying headlines

                                        [–]PPvsFC_ 23 points24 points  (0 children)

                                        Not super interested in the opinions of the CEO of the company who would be selling said booster.

                                        [–]Devils_King 67 points68 points  (0 children)

                                        Man! They're milking this thing for all it's worth.

                                        [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (4 children)

                                        I'm happy that people who wish to have another dose will be able to. After having some issues after my booster, I think I might personally sit this one out.

                                        [–]interwebbox 27 points28 points  (0 children)

                                        McDonalds CEO: Large order of fries and chocolate shake "necessary"

                                        [–]Shintox 109 points110 points  (47 children)

                                        No thanks

                                        [–]Crackorjackzors 15 points16 points  (10 children)

                                        Yeah I've had three and I am just going to wait until there is maybe some updated version.

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                                          [–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (4 children)

                                          I’m good. Had covid twice and got my shots. There’s no need for another right now

                                          [–]Gweedoke 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                                          I feel the same. Had Covid the first wave and was sick for 3/4 days, got 3 shots then last month i caught omicron. Had no symptoms, my close friends and family all had it and just a couple of them had mild symptoms so Im good for now aswell.

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                                            [–]Wyrdthane 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                                            Fuck this guy. He's in it for the money.

                                            [–]mat2019Boosted! ✨💉✅ 47 points48 points  (0 children)

                                            okay buddy

                                            [–]Fuzzybadfeet85 20 points21 points  (2 children)

                                            Why?

                                            [–]supergrendell 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            CEO of a company wants you to buy more of their product?! No way!

                                            [–]totallywildwes 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            How about no.

                                            [–]guesswhodat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            I'm shocked the CEO of Pfizer is saying this! I wonder if this could be good for revenue?

                                            [–]ReneRedd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            First 2 shots no issues, 3rd gave me a whole lot of side effects that still haven't cleared all 3 weeks later :( man 4th if that's even more I might reach my limit.

                                            [–]Independent-Dog2179 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            Slava vaccine!

                                            [–]arcerms 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                                            conflict of interest

                                            [–]writerose 21 points22 points  (5 children)

                                            Nope I’m done. I’ve gotten three shots. My last one was almost a month ago and I’m still dealing with joint pain. Some days I can’t walk because my ankle hurts so bad.

                                            [–]Pos1tivity 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                                            I feel this. Hope you feel better soon. Had joint pain for 3 weeks after my boost.

                                            It went away thankfully!

                                            [–]imLissy 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                                            I got my booster three months ago and have had neck pain ever since. It's maddening because I have zero evidence it was from the shot but I was in agony right after and the swelling took two weeks to go away.

                                            [–]KriptoKeeper 64 points65 points  (0 children)

                                            Fuck your shares and insider trading.

                                            [–]BigDaveHall 50 points51 points  (2 children)

                                            Hahaha! Abso-fucking-lutely not, thank you.

                                            [–]Pos1tivity 18 points19 points  (0 children)

                                            Pro-vaccine (2 pfizer + 1 moderna) i am not getting a 4th dose. I had covid prior to vaccination and started having long covid symptoms 2 weeks after my 2nd dose, then relapsed again after my 3rd.

                                            I think i am a rare case, but one of the leading theories behind long covid is autoantibody formation (specifically to ACE2)

                                            Everytime you are exposed to spike, B cell somatic hypermutation occurs, increasing the breadth of epitopes your antibodies cover. More research is needed, but i am wary to think re-exposure to spike isn't a risky endevor when ace2 and spike bind to one another.

                                            [–]tan_phan_vt 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                            Bruh i'm so tired of this. I have taken 3 shots already along with several members of my family. Most of us have lingering side effects til this date, mostly swollen joints and chronic headaches. Sounds mild but its affecting quality of life a lot, and imagine all of us feeling bad at the same time.

                                            I dont think vaccine is a long term cure, we need medicines.

                                            [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

                                            Everyone get a fourth and fifth and sixth shot, cause the CEO said so. 🙄 Wow. Any red flags waving or bells ringing by now?

                                            [–]HeatSeekingPanther 21 points22 points  (0 children)

                                            Nah I’m good

                                            [–]WhatAura 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                                            Of course lol

                                            [–]chudsworth 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                                            Hmm, its as if they're a for-profit company... what a shock!

                                            [–]heckastupidd 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                                            I’m super pro vaccine but I’m not getting a 4th shot man cmon lmao.

                                            [–]blacklemon49 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                                            Fourh, fifth…

                                            [–]Mouser05 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                                            Why listen to a CEO? of course they'll say to take another dose so they'll make more money.listen to a doctor not some doofus ceo

                                            [–]ffigu002[🍰] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

                                            Lmao we’re all fools

                                            [–]Certainly-Not-A-Bot 16 points17 points  (1 child)

                                            Right. I'll believe it when I see people uninvolved with Pfizer saying that.

                                            [–]amurd90 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                            Of course it is

                                            [–]Mevraz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                            Pfizer profits go brrrrrrr

                                            [–]newhavenstumpjumper 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                            "

                                            ...so I can get my bonus.

                                            [–]Magoogly1983 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                                            “To keep our profits up”.

                                            [–]RumManDan 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                                            I'm tripple vaxxed and this guy can take a hike. I'm done with the shots. I'll take my chances. Everyone I know vaxed or unvaxxed is getting sick anyway.

                                            [–]free_kark 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                            Just in from McDonald's: upsizing your fries is NECESSARY

                                            [–]Norgoroth 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                            Necessary for what? More money for your pockets? I have a booster and will not be getting any more shots. Omicron evades them anyway.

                                            [–]Glass-Customer2361 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                            A CEO promoting a 4th vaccine actually does more harm than good

                                            [–]Flicksterea 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            My menstrual cycle is completely fucked from Pfizer. I’ve had three shots, I won’t take a fourth. I would rather get COVID than deal with the ongoing physical ramifications of this vaccine.

                                            [–]mossiv 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                            I'm pro Vax. But no thanks. Mr ceo of pzifer needs to learn to shut his mouth and let the medical experts relay their opinion. This man is damaging the trust in vaccines world wide.

                                            [–]Leahkh19 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                                            Fuck no

                                            [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                                            I'm never even getting my third what the fuck?

                                            [–]partyqwerty 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                                            For his fat paycheck

                                            [–]lornaevo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                            Software update incoming.

                                            [–]Material-Gate7280 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                                            Necessary so that he can stay rich sure.....

                                            [–]ToasterMcNoster 8 points9 points  (7 children)

                                            Honest question: I haven’t been boosted yet but I am still worried about the severe side effects of the booster (heart issues among other health problems). I am trying to find a resource to comfort those concern because I am pro vaccination I just would like to calm my anxiety about having a stroke or blood clot I suppose. Any tips?

                                            [–]sonofarex 10 points11 points  (2 children)

                                            Necessary for him to get his bonus that's more than 99% of people will see in their lifetime?

                                            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            Yeah no.

                                            I got 2 shots, that's enough for me for now. I'm not gonna keep jabbing myself every few months just because some CEO says to.

                                            Gimme some data, and gimme an uptick in cases in my area and then I'll consider.

                                            Say what you will, but I'll roll the dice on 2 shots and a previous infection after that.

                                            [–]yellowromancandle 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                            Listen guys… I just had my first cold in 2.5 years since the indoor mask mandate was lifted in my kid’s school, and let me tell you. For all the people saying iTs jUsT a CoLd, that just a cold knocked me on my ass for two weeks (wasn’t the ‘vid, I tested negative twice).

                                            I would get whatever shots the CDC recommends for as long as I’m kickin’. Fkn just a cold I DONT WANT COLDS EITHER, keep your masks on, you viral transmitting mouth breathers. Y’all nasty. One week and you made me sick. Assholes.

                                            [–]M_T_Head 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            Did anyone else read the title and finish it in you head with "...for us to pay our shareholders fat dividends"?

                                            Don't get me wrong. When I hear Dr. Fauci or the CDC say we need it, I be getting mine, but I don't take medical advice from the head of a pharm company.

                                            [–]disturbed_743483 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                            Enough already

                                            [–]1984_eyes_wide_shut 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                            I got the 2 shots, that’s it. No more of this bullshit.

                                            [–]Captain_Who 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                            If my government’s medical authority recommends it, then fine. There’s a new flu shot every year; maybe covid shot will follow that pattern.

                                            [–]g_sic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            Infinite cash grab

                                            [–]katsukare 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                            Yeah ok Mr. CEO

                                            [–]grio 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            Nope.

                                            [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                                            Nah. I got three, I'm good.

                                            [–]emh1389 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                            I wanna know more about the Walter Reed Covid shot. When will that roll out?

                                            [–]ForbiddenBromance 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                            I'm a certified continuous improvement professional. I recommend skipping 5 and 6 sigma, let's go straight to 8 sigma

                                            [–]formallyhuman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                            It does look like that, with waning immunity in Europe, numbers are creeping back up.

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