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Rules Updated and Changed!
u/newt__noot
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https://www.reddit.com/r/FundieSnarkUncensored/comments/128ubo9/rules_updated_and_changed/

Hello everyone!

Happy Saturday!

And a Happy April's Fools, unfortunately this is not a joke announcement or post (sorry about that!) but we do have some news for everyone.

We've updated and changed the rules! Below, you'll see the newly updated rules. We essentially condensed and changed some of the wording to make a shorter list. A reminder that the claim of 'I didn't know that was a rule' or 'I didn't see that rule' is NOT an excuse. We urge everyone to read through this list carefully, and if you have any concerns, send us a modmail.

  1. Look but don’t touch:

You can view their content, but you cannot interact with their content. This includes (but is not limited to) commenting, answering poll questions, emailing them, etc. Anyone found to be engaging with the fundies will be met with a permanent ban with no eligibility for appeal.

2) Be kind & remember the human:

Comments that are rude and/or antagonistic will not be tolerated. Bigoted, xenophobic, transphobic, homophobic, racist, ableist, antisemitic, or misogynistic language will not be tolerated. This includes speculating on the sexuality or gender identity of literally anyone. Do not use terms such as "Hitler" or "Heitler" to refer to fundies. Doing so will result in an immediate permanent ban. Being kind also means using trigger warnings as needed.

3) Archive links of fundie-run websites and mirror YouTube videos:

Direct links fundie-run websites will be removed because we don't want to send traffic to these sites. You can archive links to these sites via: www.archive.is, www.archive.org/web/, or www.unvis.it. Just paste the URL in, and it will create an archive link for you to share. You can use websites like hooktube.com and https://ytprivate.com/feed/trending to share videos without giving the fundie any views.

4) Verify with mods prior to doing AMAs:

Did you escape the fundie life? Did you rub elbows with a fundie at a cream of crap convention? We’d love to hear about it! If you’re interested, please get in touch with the mods first to get yourself verified. We want to keep the experience authentic, so all AMA's must be mod approved.

5) Christian snark only:

This is a snark sub for fundamentalist Christians- keep it fundie & keep it snarky. While we welcome snarkers from all different backgrounds, the people we snark on are Fundamentalist Christians and only Fundamentalist Christians. There are other subs dedicated to other faiths or about religious bullshittery in general if you find run-of-the-mill religious weirdness. This means no snarking on Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, etc. Some branches of Christianity considered fundamentalists (in addition to fundie Protestants) are TradCaths, hardcore Mormons, and Jehovah’s Witnesses.

6) Appearance snark and body shaming:

While it’s hard to define what is crossing the line, you’ll know it when you see it. Saying Fred/Franny Fundie looks like X is fine. (Ex: David Rodrigues looks like Shrek, B-Beal looks like the Grandpa from The Munsters.) Saying you do/don’t find someone attractive is fine. Do not snark on the appearance or bodies of children, with the exception of choices that their parents have made for them, or how they may appear in relation to their parents. (Examples: Janessa looks malnourished while David is obviously well-fed, or how the Collins kids always wear filthy clothing is fine.)

7) No Fundie-esque crap:

If your content could come out of the mouth of the fundies, we don’t want it here. Users found to be engaging in such rhetoric will be banned. It’s okay to hold a nuanced view of complex issues, but if your opinion would be at home in a fundies mouth, we won’t tolerate it.

8) No gatekeeping:

Do not tell people what they can and can’t snark on. Different people have different opinions on what is/isn’t snarkable and we want to respect that so long as it isn’t rule-breaking. Do not tell people they have to censor kids’ faces. You can censor them if YOU want to, but nobody HAS to and YOU don’t get to tell people they have to. Personally disliking something is NOT a reason to report a post or comment. Unless a post or comment breaks sub rules or Reddit ToS, do not report it. Scroll past.

9) Armchair Diagnosing:

While it’s fine to comment that you think a fundie is showing the signs X illness, it’s not okay to make fun of it. Mental illness is a serious issue, and it’s ok to have concern, but it’s not cool to be snarky about it. Cool: “I think Kelly is exhibiting signs of bipolar disorder.” Not Cool: “Karissa is acting more depressed than the economy.” or "Franny Fundie for sure has multiple personality disorder."

Sam from Zelph here! Re: our Bethany/Dav collab
u/TheSamspoNew
• Sam from Zelph here! Re: our Bethany/Dav collab
Girl Defined

As a longtime snarker who has been staying abreast of the discourse here (RIP my fragile ego lol), I just wanted to share a few things that I think are worth knowing about the weekend we just had. I’m nervous to post but am hoping you won’t all hate me for it. 😅

  • Bethany and Dav didn’t film any content on their end, they were totally there for the friendship. Obviously with social media stuff there can always be an indirect effect in terms of making money, but I truly can’t imagine anyone watching the convo we had about LGBTQ+ issues and wanting to buy Girl Defined’s upcoming book on gender. (You’ll see haha, I hope it will pleasantly surprise you.) I imagine the people who buy that book will already firmly be in the camp of those ideas, certainly not new converts via this collab! 😂

  • While I completely understand the impulse to be cynical and wary (I have never shied away from criticizing Girl Defined and even in the recent videos that Bethany watched and liked, leading to this collab, I still called her upcoming book “heinous” etc. 😅), I truly believe this collab will do more good than harm. We are not blind to any of the stuff you guys are worried about and it’s been a massive point of discussion between us for months. It feels like an impossible line to walk because content creation is our full-time job and us making money seems to be a big point of frustration for people on this sub. All I can say is that we want to support ourselves but we’re not money-hungry, money is just how we’re able to keep doing what we’re doing, which we love and feel really passionate about.

  • As you’d expect, the conversations we had off camera were significant and go even further than what was filmed. (But also I’m genuinely shocked at what we were able to film, I don’t think we expected to be able to go as deep as we did.)

  • It’s true that me and Tanner have a “love is the answer” approach that doesn’t resonate with everyone. We talk about this more in the video but we’re very aware that we have a lot of privilege that allows us to engage in a certain way in situations where we would never expect a more marginalized person to engage. We’ve seen our approach be effective and we have always been very interested in what the research is saying re: that. I believe in the work we’re doing, and I don’t say that with grandiosity or like I don’t think there are valid criticisms that can be made about us. (We really try to take them to heart without being paralyzed by not being able to please everyone.)

  • My historical cynicism about Bethany fell away getting to know her IRL. Not in a “she’s lovely in person” kind of way (which she is), but in the sense that I genuinely saw her heart and believe in her goodness and the earnestness of her intentions, regardless of the ideas she’s (almost exclusively) been exposed to in her life thus far. She is much more intellectually humble and curious than we have seen in the past and she’s not static in her thinking—it’s all an ongoing process, as with all of us, and she knows it. I was genuinely inspired by some of the qualities I saw in her, because I don’t possess them in those measures and would like to.

I think that’s all I can say right now, I’m trying not to go overboard in explaining things that I hope will be better explained by actually watching the conversations we had. Hope this wasn’t weird or annoying haha. I’ve shared our videos here before but have never made an actual post so it feels a bit scary! Sending love. 💜💜

In case you forgot...or you're new here
u/YourGalMal
• In case you forgot...or you're new here
Girl Defined

Hi, ex-Christian, CSA survivor, queer, child-free person here to remind you of an incident that took place within the last couple of years. Girl Defined (along with being bigots who spew misinformation and hate) had two fundies be guest speakers for one of her many marriage/sex courses and during this, they admitted to being participants in and allowing the SA of their infant daughter. And I believe that she partnered with them again in a later course. She's never admitted that this was beyond horrible and has never apologized. I'll share a link to a post in the comments so you can understand the context if you're not familiar with what I'm referring to.

*Mods, please don't remove this as a duplicate post or anything. I genuinely don't know if a lot of people know about this; there's likely a lot of new snarkers here since the Paul and Morgan/GD collab.

*Edited: grammar; I'm nervous to be posting about this because it's so triggering for me personally, but I felt it needed to be shared in light of... things lol.