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[–]charlespax 1047 points1048 points  (32 children)

For people without eagle eyes, that is 800,000.

Edit: For those of you who liked this comment and agree that the world would be a better place with more thousands separators (be they periods, commas, or spaces), I thank you for making my Reddit experience a littler more weird and a little more fun. fOrThOsEoFyOuWhOdIsAgReEiThInKyOuWoUlDdOwElLdOeXtEnDyOuRsPhErEoFcOmPaSsIoNtOtHoSeOfUsWiThOuTeAgLeEyEsBeCaUsEaLoNgStRiNgOfZeRoSlOoKsLiKeThIsSeNtEnCetoUs

[–]flyer12 184 points185 points  (13 children)

Reminds me of a vaccine website I go to everyday listing how many doses distributed/given. Not a single comma anywhere

[–]Five_Decades 31 points32 points  (6 children)

what website is that?

[–]soniko_ 120 points121 points  (4 children)

Nocommasweb.site

[–]Satyam_xx 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Fuck I literally searched that almost.. How dumb am I?

[–]skinnah 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Well have you ever used gorilla glue for hair spray?

[–]DMindisguise 0 points1 point  (0 children)

reallydumbifyouaskme.gov

[–]Five_Decades 8 points9 points  (0 children)

damn, I was hoping it was goatxe

[–]flyer12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LOL they have Now added comas and I didn’t see it till I went to get the link. This has to be recent bc I go there all the time. I even emailed the contact found in the footer, asking for them to add commas. The website (now with commas) is https://covid19tracker.ca/vaccinationtracker.html

[–]choppedgrailed 10 points11 points  (4 children)

How do you think us Canadians feel?

[–]WingyPilot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

After dealing with international companies for a while, some use commas, some use decimals, some use spaces, some use nothing. Many swap comma and decimal. Unfortunately there's no common accepted separator.

[–]Spirit_of_Hogwash 39 points40 points  (1 child)

As they come from India the real number is 8 lakh.

[–]aquilesbaeza 36 points37 points  (0 children)

The real heroe in the comment section...

[–]Pixxet 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thank you, caffeine makes my eyes jitter and the comma really helps.

[–]Un_controllably 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My dumb eyes read 8 million, thank you

[–]ClassyGlassy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

WhAtSwRoNgWiThThAtSeNtEnCe?

[–]Carvinrawks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a reason this is the top comment.

[–]dinozaur2020 3 points4 points  (3 children)

or 800.000

[–]jonesaus1 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I read this as 800

[–]WingyPilot -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

Or if from Europe/UK that is 800.000

[–]Mandzipop 6 points7 points  (1 child)

UK is 800,000 not 800.000

[–]WingyPilot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OK. My point confirmed either way. It's different from some countries to the next.

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    [–]WhatAura 871 points872 points  (169 children)

    Thank you India! Wonder why we don’t hear much about other countries supplying COVID vaccines to rest of the world? Wonder who’s supplying Pfizer / AstraZeneca / Moderna to rest of the world?

    [–]ladiesman3691 381 points382 points  (44 children)

    Well most pfizer and moderna vaccines are being bought directly from the manufacturing companies. India has been supplying Oxford /AstraZeneca manufactured by Serum Institute of India branded as “Covishield” This vaccine diplomacy is a result of both foreign policy and commitments during licensing from Oxford/AstraZeneca and of course the high manufacturing capabilities of the Pharma Industry

    [–]manojlds 39 points40 points  (11 children)

    Serum is also part of Covax effort where people like Bill Gates have put in money.

    I don't know for sure, but India is playing diplomacy on doses that Serum owes anyway

    [–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (1 child)

    covax deliveries are yet to start.

    Edit: The WHO eul needed for COVAX to start delivery of Oxford vaccines has come today. The COVAX deliveries will likely start later this month

    https://www.who.int/news/item/15-02-2021-who-lists-two-additional-covid-19-vaccines-for-emergency-use-and-covax-roll-out

    [–]manojlds 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thanks, good to know.

    [–]pryingbasoon91 5 points6 points  (7 children)

    Pretty sure that Serum will be compensated some way or the other by the government

    [–]ladiesman3691 4 points5 points  (6 children)

    Oh, the Indian Govts paying for the doses at a subsidised cost of around 3$ per vaccine. If and when the vaccine is available to a regular consumer directly, it’ll definitely cost more than 3$ per dose

    [–]angermouse 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    Who is subsidizing it, if not the government?

    [–]ladiesman3691 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    The Ind Govt is paying less than retail for now and vaccinating all healthcare workers for free. They said vaccinating everyone for free might not be possible after the initial phases, so we have to see what happens. It has not been decided yet

    The consensus is that the govt can vaccinate for free while allowing those who can pay for it to pay the retail cost to avoid too much burden on the Govt Funds

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      [–]ladiesman3691 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      At the moment, the vaccines are not being sent to other countries as part of COVAX, but because the Govt wants to. But as I’ve already said in the comment, SII already had to manufacture doses for many countries as part of licensing agreement but that hasn’t started till now

      [–]muksterBoosted! ✨💉✅ 96 points97 points  (18 children)

      Thr Pfizer vaccine in particular is very hard to distribute to poorer countries due to the cold storage requirements

      [–]ladiesman3691 33 points34 points  (0 children)

      Yeah people expecting a vaccine that requires -70C to br distributed in countries without reliable power supply is too much. Lmao. Regular LA/Killed vaccines are the best bet for mass vaccinations in most countries

      [–]falconboy2029 29 points30 points  (0 children)

      Pssssst nobody wants to hear that part.

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        [–]chrisjozo 110 points111 points  (9 children)

        The Serum Institute in India started producing the AstraZeneca vaccine last July. https://weather.com/en-IN/india/coronavirus/news/2020-07-23-india-begins-production-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-covidshied-sii

        They took a huge gamble that the vaccine would actually work and eventually be approved foe use. The gamble paid off and now they have a massive head start over other countries in terms of production.

        [–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (1 child)

        toothbrush adjoining rude roll intelligent squeeze glorious cats erect rhythm

        This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

        [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        there are two main vaccine manufacturers in India right now, Serum Institute of India making the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine and Bharat BioTech making the Coavaxin which India's vaccine. Coavaxin is still in the last phase before being used and since not a lot of people are taking the vaccine as of yet in India, the government and SII decided to export to different countries

        [–]bubble831 226 points227 points  (56 children)

        Pfizer's Belgian plant is supplying the EU, UK, Canada, Israel and others. Moderna's Swiss plant is supplying the US mainly atm but is also supplying the EU, UK and Canada in smaller amounts which will ramp up.

        India is using their supply of the vaccine to improve their image worldwide. The reason you don't hear Europe talking up the fact that they are supplying countries worldwide is that we don't have enough vaccines for ourselves atm and any attempt by the EU to try and gain PR saying we are sending vaccines abroad would be met with anger within the member states

        Edit: A few people getting upset with the wording of my comment, I just meant it in response to:

        Wonder why we don’t hear much about other countries supplying COVID vaccines to rest of the world?

        Its because the EU doesn't want to advertise the fact that vaccines are leaving the union while they don't have enough themselves, its not that it isn't happening. Whereas India has no problem being seen as a vaccine exporter.

        [–]SlickMongoose 188 points189 points  (10 children)

        India isn't just doing it to improve their image, they have the largest pharmaceutical industry in the world and were always going to be the world's major supplier.

        [–]FogellMcLovin77 15 points16 points  (9 children)

        Except India’s vaccinations per 1,000 people aren’t as high as their health officials wants them to be...

        [–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (2 children)

        Except India’s vaccinations per 1,000 people aren’t as high as their health officials wants them to be...

        That is true, but life is back to normal even without vaccines and astonishingly, the hospital beds are still lying empty. The surge in India never came, despite protests and marches of all sorts. Honestly, people are not that concerned about taking vaccines.

        https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/12/30/950880445/even-with-10-million-covid-19-cases-a-doctor-says-india-dodged-a-bullet

        [–]manojlds 17 points18 points  (0 children)

        We went through our biggest festivals and protests and things look close to normal already.

        One of the worst hit cities of Chennai, for example, is hosting a cricket match with 50% spectators right now.

        [–]2Big_Patriot 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Yup, India made it through the pandemic as the population had enough infections to achieve herd immunity. Probably around 50% as the warmer climate makes it a bit more difficult to spread.

        [–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (5 children)

        India's gone back to normal even without the vaccine,I don't think most will get the vaccine here. Funnily there aren't many cases either, infection rates have been steadily falling even though people have been wearing masks less and mingling freely. There was never going to be any social distancing in India anyway.

        [–]manojlds 11 points12 points  (1 child)

        Not many is relative though.

        3 new cases and Auckland is in partial lockdown.

        150 new cases and Chennai is hosting a cricket match with spectators.

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Poverty and hardship gives you courage. No, really.

        Plus most Indians believe the date of their death is already fixed when they were born, so they don't worry that much.

        Chennai also has packed cinema halls

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          [–]FoogYllis 128 points129 points  (15 children)

          There are still 130 countries that do not have the vaccine and that is a problem. So I really don't care if someone is trying to improve their image as long as more countries get their citizens vaccinated. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/02/14/966418960/you-think-the-u-s-has-vaccine-issues-130-countries-havent-even-started-vaccinati

          [–][deleted] 81 points82 points  (14 children)

          You’re not wrong - I think they’re just addressing why the Indian government is going out of their way to do this. Building international goodwill is a smart move on their part that could pay off 10x later on.

          Ya need friends on the come up.

          [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (12 children)

          Unless you’re China

          [–]MountbattenYachtClub 48 points49 points  (1 child)

          In China's case you just need a brutal 1 party autocracy, lack of basic human rights, internment camps, mass surveillance and strong control over citizens basic freedom.

          Surely a recipe for long term success that won't ever go badly.

          [–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

          Chinas vaccine is approved in dozens of countries

          [–]Shorttail0 7 points8 points  (8 children)

          China is massively investing in infrastructure, especially in Africa. They are doing everything they can to export their goodwill, just not in the human rights sector.

          [–]AeBe800 27 points28 points  (7 children)

          With unforgiving loans attached.

          [–]korben2600 9 points10 points  (3 children)

          And ultimately hoping those countries default so that China may take control of critical infrastructure like seaports, airports, power plants, military bases, furthering their goal of projecting power. A shining example of this is Moldova, Europe's poorest country. And a lot of the loans that these poor countries take are "hidden" from the view of the world, done in secret by China outside of normal mechanisms like the IMF.

          [–]AeBe800 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Yep. I wish I could do this in Civ.

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            [–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

            You act like the US doesn't do thesame thing through the IMF, also that's how development economics work.

            [–]AeBe800 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            I have made no such claims. It is possible to have a conversation about one country without the whataboutism of what everyone else does.

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                  [–]looktowindwardBoosted! ✨💉✅ 36 points37 points  (1 child)

                  This is not to improve anyone's image. India manufacturers vaccines in large quantities. This is business not diplomacy

                  [–]killer_whale2 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                  They did give free vaccine to all south asian country (accept Pakistan).

                  [–]Altruistic_Astronaut 35 points36 points  (2 children)

                  This statement seems very biased. This is literally why we only hear about the US and Europe exporting vaccines because they sre the ones trying to improve their image.

                  [–]PerniciousGrace 20 points21 points  (1 child)

                  Actually don't the US and the EU currently have a ban on large vaccine exports and that is why you only hear of Pfizer batches reaching developing countries (but also Canada, Japan, Korea, AUS, NZ...) in rather small amounts at a time? China, India and Russia are exporting a lot more.

                  [–]tcptomatoBoosted! ✨💉✅ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                  US doesn't export Pfizer. The EU had some production bottleneck, that's why you hear about the small amounts.

                  [–]fedormendor 20 points21 points  (2 children)

                  The reason you don't hear Europe talking up the fact that they are supplying countries worldwide is that we don't have enough vaccines for ourselves atm and any attempt by the EU to try and gain PR saying we are sending vaccines abroad would be met with anger within the member states

                  The EU isn't supplying the other countries. Pfizer, a private company, is. The EU couldn't even sort out its own contract with Pfizer until November 2020 while smaller "speedboat" countries began in July 2020. The only role the EU plays is not preventing exports.

                  [–]chauffage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Someone is salty about EU?

                  No country is making vaccines, but private pharmaceutical companies with operations (and some funding) in such countries.

                  Btw how many vaccines have UK and USA exported so far?

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                    [–]rhudejo 11 points12 points  (9 children)

                    Still the EU could supply to 3rd world countries a small amount so they can vaccinate the most important ones - healthcare workers

                    [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (7 children)

                    Their vaccines cost a lot more than India's, like 10x more

                    [–]rhudejo 9 points10 points  (6 children)

                    And? its a drop in the ocean in the EUs budget. Say at $20/vaccine, if the EU would give away 1million it would be still $20 million, a single Eurofighter plane is more than $100 million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurofighter_Typhoon#Procurement,_production_and_costs

                    [–]Toxicseagull 2 points3 points  (5 children)

                    The EU spent 3 months negotiating a small discount for their vaccines and are currently politically imploding a bit with the consequences of this. They aren't going to be giving out 1 million free vaccines right now.

                    The Oxford Vaccine is produced at cost for third world countries, which is $3 and it doesn't need transport at -70C. With a program called Covax being used to distribute these vaccines around the world, paid for by 1st world countries.

                    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/nov/23/oxford-astrazeneca-results-covid-vaccine-developing-countries

                    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/sep/21/landmark-moment-156-countries-agree-to-covid-vaccine-allocation-deal

                    [–]chauffage 3 points4 points  (4 children)

                    EU spent 3 months discussing liability, not prices lol

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                      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      Lmao india has a well known reputation of exporting cheap generic drugs. People who don't know that are ignorant

                      [–]moresushiplease 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      I am in an EEA nation and we were too stupid to buy our own and thought, for some reason, the EU would have us covered but I guess not. What a disappointmening mess.

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                        [–]rubyreadit 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                        New Zealand is giving vaccines to some of their nearest island neighbors - not going to look it up this minute but I think it was Tonga, Samoa, Cook Islands... not sure about Fiji.

                        [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                        Uhm...Cuba is, as alwsys, pulling its weight and then some.

                        So much that even though I'm in the US, I'm willing to travel to Cuba just to get the vaccine there.

                        [–]DeezNeezutsBoosted! ✨💉✅ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                        Cuba has alway been well set up for Pharma.

                        [–]kontemplador 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                        China supplied Chile with 4 millions of doses (Sinovac). About 6 millions more are in the way, but remind me when they land.

                        Pfizer supplied 40 thousands. More are in the way.

                        [–]jonewer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        Worth pointing out that OxAZ was 90% funded by the UK government with the stipulation that it be distributed 'at cost' which means places like SII can crack on with mass production

                        Pretty much the only good thing my government has done in the last 5 years.

                        [–]dinozaur2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        the European Union is supplying a lot of vaccines

                        [–]gaiusmariusj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Then you have to check your news sources because there are other countries that provide vaccines.

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                          [–]Ok-Covid-Karen 121 points122 points  (23 children)

                          Ahem... yo.

                          <cries in Bahamas>

                          AZ is our only option due to refrigeration constraints and our government has only ordered a fraction of what we might need for the year (assuming due to cost???)

                          Anyone else got "extras"... contact the Bahamian government please.

                          [–]milehigh73aBoosted! ✨💉✅ 71 points72 points  (10 children)

                          My guess is that the US will be sugar daddy on vaccines to its neighbors over the summer. I know that doesn't help bahamians now, but I suspect that by late June, the US will have more supply than it knows what to do with, especially AZ.

                          [–]Ok-Covid-Karen 23 points24 points  (4 children)

                          It was my understanding that the US was very unlikely to bother with AZ due to the very issue we are discussing, and the other options are just too logistically challenging for us. I think we might have hope that J&J might work though. But once again, it'll be a long time before anyone will be handing that out to poorer countries that had no skin in the game for developing it.

                          [–]milehigh73aBoosted! ✨💉✅ 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                          We bought a whole lotta AZ. So we will do something with the doses we bought something like 400M doses.

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                            [–]crownpr1nce 14 points15 points  (2 children)

                            Basically this. Canada also ordered 9 doses per citizen from a wide array of companies because they didn't know when they made those deals who would be approved first. The overflow of doses will be for countries that can't afford them. This is probably the case (to a lesser extent in the per capita doses) for many countries.

                            [–]Lokican 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            Canadian here. I wonder if our government will use this situation to gain influence on the world stage in line with our “soft power” diplomacy.

                            [–]My_Dads_A_Cop16 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            Isn’t as effective. It’s still effective, just a little less.

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                              [–]johnnydues 20 points21 points  (5 children)

                              I imagined that Bahamas is a tax evasion paradise with beautiful beaches and everyone was a millionaire.

                              [–]Ok-Covid-Karen 41 points42 points  (2 children)

                              You imagined incorrectly.

                              Remember, our main industry is tourism... tourism. We cater to the rich (and not so rich), but are not all that rich ourselves.

                              Once again Tourism. That thing where you want to constantly bring in people so that your economy can thrive. That thing? In a pandemic?

                              Yeah.

                              [–]socialistrob 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                              The Bahamas may be doing a bit better than most of the other Caribbean countries but they’re still not a rich nation. Their GDP per capita (adjusted based on PPP) is roughly on par with Poland or Estonia. Not poor exactly but not rich either and tourism is their biggest employer.

                              [–]Spartan-417 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                              UK’s working at a good pace with our vaccinations, and the Bahamas’ membership in the Commonwealth might bump them up the list of those who get access to the UK’s excess vaccines

                              Basically, hopefully the UK will give you guys some because we are both ruled by Her Immortal Majesty Queen Elizabeth II

                              [–]jonewer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              UK has ordered something like half a billion vaccines. I'd hope we divert surplus to our cousins like you guys :)

                              [–]thealterlion 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                              Isn't the sinovac vaccine also an option? It can be stored in a household refirgerator and is the main vaccine being applied here in Chile

                              [–]ComradeGibbon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                              Friend of mine living in Dubai got the Sinovac. He's in his early 40's.

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                                [–]Five_Decades 96 points97 points  (10 children)

                                Doesn't India have laws saying they can ignore patent laws for life saving medicines? if so hopefully they manufacture a lot of vaccines.

                                [–]IndBeak 61 points62 points  (4 children)

                                Not exactly. Patents are recognized, but pharma companies are allowed to reverse engineer a drug and make a replica of original. If they can. India essentially recognizes the patent of the end product, but not on the ingredients. That is how all the generic druga are made.

                                [–]TauCabalanderBoosted! ✨💉✅ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                                It is really hard to NOT copy the manufacturing process on some drugs.

                                That's usually the point of contention of patents; not the drug but the process to make it.

                                [–]guyonghao004 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                Are they biosimilars or generic drugs?

                                [–]TickTockTheo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                This reminds me of when I was in uni a friend of mine went to India and bought shit loads of cheap vallium, brought it back to the UK and sold it.(It's hard to get in the UK without a prescription)

                                [–]IndBeak 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                Lol

                                [–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

                                Yes

                                [–]MagnarOfWinterfell 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                                AstraZenca is anyway selling their Covid vaccine at cost IIRC.

                                [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                                As does USA.

                                The great thing about patents is everything is disclosed.

                                Governments grant patents. When patents get in the government's way, they can disregard them.

                                Governments typically only do this in times of crisis.

                                [–]rianujnasI'm vaccinated! (First shot) 💉💪🩹 231 points232 points  (14 children)

                                As an Indian I am conflicted. I am proud we are supplying the world but when do we start getting these vaccines??

                                [–]gohomebrentyourdrunk 275 points276 points  (6 children)

                                I think I read the big reason India is doing this is because the supply they have manufactured has far surpassed their distribution abilities, which would take time to work out - during which they can manufacture more vaccine.

                                I could be wrong, not an authority on the subject.

                                [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (2 children)

                                Serum Institute promised a billion doses by end of 2021, of which 200 million would go to Covax

                                AstraZeneca and Oxford agreed to license the vaccine to the Serum Institute on a pledge that it would deliver it to the world’s poorest people at cost. Serum recently applied for World Health Organization certification, which would allow it to start exporting doses it has sold to Covax, an international health group that has negotiated vaccine purchases for less wealthy countries, as soon as the end of January. The Institute has promised Covax 200 million doses.

                                So I don't think distribution is a major issue. The scale of production itself is massive. India administers humanity-scale polio vaccination drives every year. They were talking about using a similar model for covid vaccinations

                                The immensity of the Indian campaign can be hard to grasp. There are more than 700,000 vaccination booths in every campaign led by 2.5 million vaccinators, who have 2 million vaccine carrier bags, which are kept cool with 6.3 million ice packs. In one national polio round, more than 200 million homes were visited and more than 170 million children were vaccinated.

                                https://ssir.org/articles/entry/the_end_of_polio_in_india

                                I think one reason is vaccine diplomacy, another reason is less interest among Indians themselves in taking the vaccine.

                                [–]crappr -1 points0 points  (1 child)

                                that’s 170 million children vaccinated in an entire year though - at that rate vaccinating everybody in the country would take 8 years

                                [–]guruji21 61 points62 points  (0 children)

                                You’re right

                                [–]milehigh73aBoosted! ✨💉✅ 17 points18 points  (0 children)

                                I am not familiar with vaccine distribution in INdia, but I do know the supply chain in India is unique and most goods pass through multiple distributors before ending up in the hands of consumers. Plus the infrastructure in India, especially rural india, is still developing.

                                [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                Lol they did studies for this in India. It's cuz you need to open separate hubs in all the rural villages and pay people to come get it. It would be faster and cheaper than to have a central hub to admin vaccines. The rural people can't afford to come to big central hubs for vaccines

                                [–]MasterThornOfCamor 60 points61 points  (1 child)

                                Considering we've vaccinated 30 million people in 30 days I don't think that production is bottleneck to more people getting vaccines. It's dispensation infrastructure.

                                [–]ralphieIsAlive 32 points33 points  (3 children)

                                We've already started getting the vaccines. It's mostly frontline workers getting vaccinated atm. Senior citizens are going to get vaccinated first and most youths probably won't get it for a while, but that's okay. The daily case rate is miniscule compared to Mexico and death rate even more so, so it's better that we supply vaccines at the moment.

                                I think vaccination here needs to be more targeted, first in Maharashtra and Kerala for example. Rural areas should also be vaccinated first but this will be a difficult job.

                                [–]jaqen_hagar_1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                                Genuine question. Will the people know whether they’re getting covaxin or covisheild? My understanding so far is that they could get either but can’t choose? (Barring Chattisgarh I guess)

                                [–]MynkM 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                Yes people know. My uncle got vaccine, and it is printed on the veil. He got that being made by Bharat Biotech.

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                                  [–]bakingtacos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                  Hope people from India get the vaccines asap, stay safe 🙌🏻

                                  [–]The_Savagest 98 points99 points  (16 children)

                                  I love India for manufacturing generic medicines. My medicine for autoimmune condition would've costed 4000 a month in US (from Pfizer) while the same costs 30$ in India

                                  [–]ECrispy 41 points42 points  (9 children)

                                  Yes, big pharma in the US is evil and want to profit from people while they use taxpayer dollars to develop drugs and then sell at obscene prices esp to poor countries.

                                  India has always looked out for the people vs corps.

                                  [–]maybe_there_is_hope 19 points20 points  (0 children)

                                  I love the shared history of India and Brazil (where i live) helping each other in the fight for the generic medicines and against heavy patents. Unfortunately, the current Brazilian goverment betrayed India on the international discussion of patents on stuff related to covid19....

                                  [–]balibrownbread 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                  Is that $30 for generic. I feel like it would be even cheaper if you buy in India?

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                                    [–]Kush_back 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                                    India is going to save the world.

                                    [–][deleted] 122 points123 points  (5 children)

                                    India is where all the good prescription drugs come from, IYKWIM.

                                    [–]TetraThiaFulvalene 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                                    Right handed horse?

                                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                    Not usually on prescription.

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                                      [–]bitcoingirl777 42 points43 points  (2 children)

                                      Thanks India .

                                      [–]IStanCatwoman 17 points18 points  (1 child)

                                      Indian here. Don't mention it, my friend. We're all in this together.

                                      [–]theultimatediy 10 points11 points  (7 children)

                                      For anyone who wants additional information about vaccines and Mexico, here is a link with the most updated calendar of vaccine arrivals to Mexico:

                                      https://www.milenio.com/ciencia-y-salud/calendario-vacunas-covid-mexico-2021

                                      Apparently 870,000 doses from the Serum Institute in India where to arrive in Feb, so these are those and we are on schedule, and are expecting 1'600,00 doses in March. Other suppliers have differnet timelines. All AZ-Oxford vaccines are now intended to population over 60.

                                      The propposed calendar from the government expected to give vaccines to medical personnel directly in Covid areas from December to February... medical personnel is getting the Pfizer but deliveries stopped in January as we all know due to Pfizer reconfiguration but I hope all medical personnel can be vaccinated by the end of February, Pfizer deliveries were to resume today.

                                      The vaccination plan was published in December scheduled people over 60 were from February - April... the rollout for the rest of us will go slowly all the way to June 2022 :( Hopefully plan can be updated.

                                      https://www.eleconomista.com.mx/politica/Esquema-de-vacunacion-Covid-19-en-Mexico-etapas-de-aplicacion-20201208-0081.html

                                      As of yesterday roughly 700k doses of the Pfizer vaccine had been administered. A lot of medical personnel are still waiting for second doses.

                                      Lastly a bit of estimates:

                                      Population: 126 million

                                      Covid medical personnel: 250,000

                                      All medical personnel: 3'100,000

                                      Population over 60: 30 million

                                      ​

                                      Disclaimer: Links are in Spanish and I am not in the medical field, I am hunkering down with my over 65 parents, and have decided to stay optimist and patient that by April they can have their doses administered, overall other vaccination schemes in Mexico are relatively successful. I just try to stay updated because Covid has been hard.

                                      [–]choraloek 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                      Have you registered them for the vaccination yet? What state are you from? It’s pretty slow in Sinaloa I thought I’d be a bit faster on the other states

                                      [–]theultimatediy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                      I did, 3 days into the registration process until the website started working semi-properly it was driving me insane.

                                      Im in Jalisco, my city hasn't started yet... Governor says we were allocated 58k doses, and municipalities are just random I guess depending on people over 60 living in each, I'm not sure how it is going today nor how this will work once we get doses.

                                      My boyfriend's mother got a call today to get ready (in Mexico City), she is 63 but last name starts with a B so that gives me a clue... their Alcaldía hasn't been allocated doses but I think they are close.

                                      I understand the political decision of not going straight to the big cities but I HATE IT, and also think it is no very science oriented but oh well... patience.

                                      [–]tobiasolman 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                                      In Canada - we too have run short on Pfizer vaccine after deploying the first dose to many frontline/at-risk personnel. My wife is a frontline nurse, whose second dose has been delayed because of the supply shortage. At least one person here was reportedly administered two different vaccines in error! It's a frustrating experiment for the world, to be sure. Thank you for the information - it's good to know we're all dealing with similar issues and hopefully our collective experiences will improve the rollout and prevent both the spread of the virus as well as preventing wastage of our only proven solutions. Good luck with the generic - I hope it helps your country's and your family's situations.

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                                        [–]kerplunk182 16 points17 points  (3 children)

                                        Mexican here, Just when you think your goverment already sucks , the goverment of México is going to provide the first vaccines to rural population, where infections and death rate are very low. Why...?? Because next June we are going to have elections and the president wants to give the "poor people" priority , these people are the ones that are getting all social benefits and they are the strong voters of the president political party.

                                        Yes, he is using the vaccines with political purposes.

                                        [–]Dattareya 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                        Lol Sounds similar to India. Here "minorities" gets over privilege just for being minority. It sucks.

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                                          [–]TorhekTheGreat 74 points75 points  (31 children)

                                          Even with 800K vaccines, i know that my government isnt going to be able to do much of anything. These guys are vaccinating at such a slow rate that its said that 70% of the population will be vaccinated by 2177. Its a shame that we have such an inept government that is dealing with this.

                                          [–]jaguar879Boosted! ✨💉✅ 52 points53 points  (6 children)

                                          I am hopeful that the US will be fairly well vaccinated by end of summer time so it is politically possible to push vaccines to other countries.

                                          [–]recurrence 16 points17 points  (4 children)

                                          The US will be. Canada is on target to also be fully vaccinated by the end of summer (despite what you're currently reading about Canada's vaccination rate). The UK will be as well (in fact they are ahead of projections at the moment).

                                          Does anyone know what the EU target month is? Australia has not started yet but has a small enough population that leftover US production alone will likely be sufficient to fully vaccinate this year.

                                          [–]ctrlaltd1337 8 points9 points  (2 children)

                                          Can you source some info on Canada by end of summer? Canadian here who has one family member that has received one dose (they work in LTC and are awaiting their second which is already late), and multiple family members over 80 that haven't had one.

                                          [–]recurrence 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                          Yeah, If you Google around a bit you'll find 100-200 articles on Canada vaccination projections but one of the better writeups was actually published only a couple days ago in a right wing media outlet: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-daunting-math-of-trudeaus-goal-to-have-all-willing-canadians-get-covid-vaccine-by-september

                                          [–]kinboyatuwo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                          We have the opposite issue that India has. We have good infrastructure but no capability to manufacture the vaccine.

                                          It will Ramp up quickly as we get does from multiple sources.

                                          [–]Caranda23Boosted! ✨💉✅ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                          Australia is manufacturing the Oxford vaccine locally. The first production run started two days ago and 1 million doses a week will be made so if necessary the whole population can be vaccinated without relying on imports. Our local vaccine manufacturer started preparing to make the Oxford vaccine back in about August.

                                          On top of that 20 million Pfizer, the first of which arrived yesterday, and 55 million doses of novavax are on order. The expectation is that we will have excess doses which we plan to donate to poorer countries in the pacific and asia.

                                          [–]milehigh73aBoosted! ✨💉✅ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                          my guess it will be earlier than that. While the vaccine drive will continue into the fall, 6-8 weeks after the gen pop opens up, it will be a trickle of daily vaccines. And we ordered too much supply, and I expect us to ship AZ orders over the summer.

                                          [–]paystando 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                                          Yeah if you leave it to the Mexican government it's going to be crap. However the combination of vaccination cards required to do stuff and access to privately purchased vaccines will come to the rescue of Mexican population.

                                          [–]alex12m 2 points3 points  (15 children)

                                          Government for which country?

                                          [–]cooperjones2 9 points10 points  (14 children)

                                          México, we are vaccinating like 3k people per day.

                                          Hopefully it starts ramping up soon but most likely not.

                                          [–]mike8a 25 points26 points  (13 children)

                                          In fact we vaccinated less than 3k people in the last 4 days combined, our government is such a joke I can't believe so many people praise it as the best that could had happened to México.

                                          [–]XilamBalam 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                                          The vaccination system in Mexico is a joke. The goverment is prioritizing "the servers of the nation".

                                          [–]araxhiel 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                                          The goverment is prioritizing political operators form their own party.

                                          There, FTFY

                                          [–]Rare_Travel 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                                          It is said by who?

                                          The only remotely similar "data" that I found that says that is from the imbecile Calderon.

                                          The vaccination rate will go up, and if not then yeah let's crucify the current administration, I'll bring the nails.

                                          [–]cooperjones2 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                                          Two sources:

                                          The Guardian

                                          The AP

                                          Both a week old and still waiting for the vaccinating to "ramp up".

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                                            [–]frontera_power 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                                            Thanks India!

                                            Great help, but since the Mexican government hasn't done much, they are relying on 1 million doses for a county with 100 million-plus.

                                            Very thankful to India, but still concerned about the huge shortages.

                                            [–]Dattareya 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                            I read somewhere that more vaccines would be delivered in near future.

                                            [–]TvamandAham 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                                            India is playing vaccine diplomacy pretty well.

                                            [–]envadel 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                                            If this is true, then India will have done so much more than what our own president has done for our country’s covid 19 crisis.

                                            [–]chetthewonderdog 15 points16 points  (3 children)

                                            Jesus even Mexico is dunking on Canada.

                                            Source:American living in Canada.

                                            [–]Babyumbry 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                                            Mexico has more than 3 times the population of Canada, though, and their vaccination rate so far is very, very bad.

                                            As a Mexican living in America with Canadian friends, I really hope both Canada and Mexico get it together soon.

                                            Canada's a victim of its own past policies that force it to rely on other countries for a vaccine supply; I have no doubt that they'll catch up and surpass the US once they have the supply.

                                            As far as Mexico.... The president's response to covid almost makes Trump look like a superhero, and that includes preparing the infrastructure that they knew was going to be necessary to vaccinate almost 130million people. Despite how large and well-developed some of its metropolitan areas are, it's still largely a developing nation and going to need help getting people vaccinated. And that's not even touching on the issue of the anti-science sentiment in some very religious areas.

                                            I have a TON more faith in Canada getting people vaccinated ASAP than I do in Mexico finishing before 2023.

                                            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                            Lol, as if.

                                            Source: Mexican

                                            [–]mundozeo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                                            Would be great if people would actually get them. Vaccination has been so terribly slow in Mexico it might as well be non existent.

                                            If could go over the border to get a shot I would.

                                            [–]michaelscott33 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                            for a country with 130M+ people that's virtually nothing. Mexico has had a disastrous vaccine rollout so far. Slowest response.

                                            [–]johnmudd 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                                            Buy a dose, donate a dose. That should have been the standard from the start.

                                            [–]mmacvicarprett 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            The bottleneck is not funding, it is production capacity. If we do that 50% of distribution would be decided by private interests. Eventually this wont be true anymore and doing that will work.

                                            [–]ShallWeBeginAgain 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                                            How do people who think COVID is fake explain things like this? It's so bizarre to me.

                                            [–]ReditMcGogg 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            EU gotta be kidding?

                                            [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                            Those AstraZeneca vaccines are gonna be thrown around like hot potatoes country to country.

                                            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                            Put a comma in your title. 800,000. Fuck sake.

                                            [–]SomeOne9oNe6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                            Well they couldn't give it to Myanmar, so Mexico was their 2nd best customer.

                                            [–]glass-jar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                            I read that as “man gets over 800000 vaccine doses” and was thoroughly confused for a moment

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