American Top Team
The thing that is great about factions it that it gives time, matches, and exposure to a lot of wrestlers at the same time. With limited TV time you can put eyes on a lot of people. Even if you aren't wrestling you still get TV time for being there. When AEW started and Jericho made his Inner Circle it was a move to give these things to Sammy, Jake, Santana and Ortiz. We fast forward two years and to the end of the feud between Inner Circle and Pinnacle and we've basically come to the end of needing the faction. Sammy is over thanks to his vlog and skills as a wrestler, Proud n' Powerful are considered one of the best tag teams in AEW and over despite kinda stalling for awhile. And Jake...well Jake could use some time with Jericho still.
It was more or less confirmed by Jericho in an interview that he pitched for Inner Circle to respectfully disband after the Pinnacle feud. But Khan thought they could all stay together but continue to thrive. Source.
And Khan was right for a time. Santana and Ortiz were doing Dark and Elevation matches to get their momentum going and Sammy went to become the TNT champ. No longer bogged down by a long faction war they were getting time to shine on their own: they straight up don't need Jericho anymore. They were doing their own thing without the other members of Inner Circle being involved. I know people here say Inner Circle should have disbanded but it was working well enough. Then the feud with American Top Team happened.
The feud with ATT was one that would have two goals from what I could tell: use the master mic Dan Lambert to push Men of the Year (Scropio Sky and Ethan Page) and bring more eyes to AEW by using MMA stars Andrei Arlovsk, Jorge Masvidal and Junior Dos Santos. They would need someone to feud with. But who? The only face factions big enough to take on the size of ATT were Inner Circle or the Nightmare Family. But the Nightmare Family were embroiled in a feud with Malakai Black at the time. MAYBE Best Friends could have done it and put their long ass never ending feud HFO on hold but they didn't and it would have helped to have Trent back. Also I don't believe we reached the point of the feud with HFO reaching unbearable levels yet. Plus you needed skilled wrestlers of Sammy, Jericho, and PnP's caliber to have a proper match with MMA stars of little wrestling training. I dunno if these goals were met but the feud was a good one and did end on a high note for me.
But at the end Sammy's title run was put on a brief but devastating pause as he once again stepped in to the shadow of Jericho and PnP were once again put into another faction war and fell into the fold with the rest. They tried to help put the spotlight on Sammy during this feud by giving a title fight with Ethan Page in the middle of it but it wasn't enough to escape being blended into the background. Because at the core of the feud it was always about Jericho vs Lambert.
Now people were happy with Sammy losing to Cody (there were other factors to why Sammy's run was maybe the worst of the title's history but the feud was a critical part IMHO) and PnP disappeared (aside from two Dark and Elevation matches) until they got teamed with Kingston to hopefully get their momentum going again by giving them more TV time. Love to hear your thoughts on the subject because the whole thing felt like AEW booked themselves into a corner.
Edit: Forgot that Dark Order would be another face faction but they don't have that central mouthpiece like Jericho or Cody to go up against Lambert on the mic and they were involved with Hangman's title run also at the time
**/r/WMMA WILL contain SPOILERS** Not set in stone, but probably set in stone. We know not everyone will like this, but we figure we are a live sporting event community not a movie or tv show. ________________________ This subreddit is dedicated to the women's side of mixed martial arts. Any martial art or combat sport counts whether it be MMA or Boxing or Muay Thai, Jiu jitsu, judo, karate, wrestling, tae kwon do etc etc.
Results
| Match | Winner |
|---|---|
| Inner Circle Vs. American Top Team | Inner Circle and Baron Von Raschke |
American Top Team wins via Sammy and Tay being so PDA that Frankie peaced the fuck out
Comments in this thread will NOT be moderated with regard to UFC 189 SPOILERS. Don't view the comments if you are trying to avoid UFC 189 spoilers.
Please keep the fight discussions in here.
If you do make a post about a fight remember to keep spoilers out of the title and add [Spoiler] or use the button on the submit page.
Any posts or comments asking for illegal live streams will be removed.
Main Card (Fox Sports 1) @
-
Welterweight: vs.
-
Welterweight: vs.
-
Welterweight: vs.
-
Welterweight: vs.
-
Women's Strawweight: vs.
-
Catchweight (148.5 lbs): vs.
Televised Prelims (Fox Sports 1) @
-
Middleweight: vs.
-
Bantamweight: vs.
-
Middleweight: vs.
-
Welterweight: vs.
Online Prelims: (UFC Fight Pass) @
-
Flyweight: vs.
^ Click each start time for a countdown and conversion to your local timezone
Sorting and Chat
|
Links:
| | |
Betting:
| |
MOD NOTICE: Those of you who have lost flair bets and messaged the mods, many of the flair requests contain spoilers. Therefore all flair changes will all be applied tomorrow or Tuesday. We have received all of your messages about flair in mod mail and will address them at that point.
Enjoy the fights!
Covington says nothing for once when you would think its a subject he'd be interested in...
Just sayin, look into it.
I just saw a video of Michael Jordan (kinda ironically) talking about how talking about who's the greatest player is stupid and we should talk about who's the greatest team ever.
It made me think: did any MMA team ever had a better year than American Top Team's 2019?
I was kinda casually watching MMA since 2016, but 2019 is when I started following the sport properly, and it felt like half of well known fighters on every card were training with ATT.
In 2019:
-
Amanda was still double champion and had dominant defenses against Holly and GDR;
-
Jorge Masvidal had his breakout year, KOing Till in London, getting the fastest KO in UFC history over Askren & beating Nate Diaz for the BMF title;
-
Dustin Poirier won the interim UFC LW title after beating Holloway (I'll casually ignore Dustin's other 2019 fight);
-
Douglas Lima wrecked MVP & beat Rory Mac' to win back the Bellator WW title & win the WW Grand Prix;
-
Kyoji Horiguchi won the Bellator BW championship, becoming BW champion in Bellator & RIZIN at the same time;
-
Kayla Harrison won her first PFL Tournament, winning all her fights pretty comfortably;
-
Mateusz Gamrot sat out the whole year, but did so as KSW double champion;
-
Scott Askham won the KSW MW championship, beating KSW icons Michal Materla and Mamed Khalidov inside 1 year;
-
Adriano Moraes won back his ONE Flyweight title, also winning his trilogy with Geje Eustaquio in the process.
Did any other MMA gym ever had a year as great as this one?
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) is a martial art that focuses on grappling and ground fighting. /r/bjj is for discussing BJJ training, techniques, news, competition, asking questions and getting advice. Beginners are welcome. Discussion is encouraged.
Monster punch, btw. Yikes.
Ethan Page has joined Stokely Squad. Scorpio Sky is injured. PVZ and Dan Lambert seem to have just quietly disappeared.
I'm not particularly a fan of ATT, but I enjoyed Page and Sky as a team. Just curious why the faction has been quietly killed off?
Please keep discussions about the episode in this thread.
If you do make a post about something from the episode, remember to keep spoilers out of the title and add [Spoiler] to the title.
Episode airs at 10pm ET / 7pm PT (1 hour from time of post), On Fox Sports 1 in the US, BT Sport in the UK, and TSN 4 in Canada.
Episode Description: The season's last action before the finale sees the teams choose their best men to compete.
Sorting and Chat:
|
Fighter Profiles:
American Top Team
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
(left show)
-
(substituted in, episode 7)
Blackzilians
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
(left show)
-
(substituted in, episode 7)
-
Step into a world of privilege and prestige with American Express. Enjoy exclusive rewards, preferential pricing, and exceptional customer service, all designed to enhance your lifestyle. Travel the globe with ease, secure sought-after items, and manage your finances with tailored solutions. Elevate your status and experience the extraordinary.
members -
AskAnAmerican: Learn about America, straight from the mouths of Americans.
members -
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) is a martial art that focuses on grappling and ground fighting. /r/bjj is for discussing BJJ training, techniques, news, competition, asking questions and getting advice. Beginners are welcome. Discussion is encouraged.
members -
**/r/WMMA WILL contain SPOILERS** Not set in stone, but probably set in stone. We know not everyone will like this, but we figure we are a live sporting event community not a movie or tv show. ________________________ This subreddit is dedicated to the women's side of mixed martial arts. Any martial art or combat sport counts whether it be MMA or Boxing or Muay Thai, Jiu jitsu, judo, karate, wrestling, tae kwon do etc etc.
members -
The official subreddit of the National Hockey League! News, results, pictures, videos and discussion from around the league.
members -
AFL: The home of Australian rules football on Reddit, including the Australian Football League and all other aspects of the game. To assign a user flair to yourself on desktop, expand the community options menu below and click the pencil icon by your username. On mobile, tap the 3 dots beside your profile picture and select "change user flair"
members -
The BIGGEST and BEST subreddit for America's pastime: baseball. The focus is mainly on MLB, but other posts about other leagues and levels are welcome! Mike Trout **For the best user experience, we recommend disabling the Reddit redesign.**
members -
The community for any and all levels of soccer in the United States & Canada, with an emphasis on Major League Soccer.
members -
This community welcomes all discussion on US-eligible soccer players, as well as US Soccer Federation topics (including the US Open Cup).
members -
We discuss Amex offers, Membership Rewards, benefits, offers, maximizing card usage and everything related to "ALL" American Express Cards. Please free to add content and join in the conversation.
members -
Discuss the NHL, PWHL, IIHF, and all other hockey you can think of! We are the premier subreddit to talk everything hockey!
members -
A place to discuss and/or post pictures of classic cars, trucks, or bikes; including hot rods, car shows and auto museums. Note - this is not for classifieds. Posts selling vehicles or vehicle parts will be removed.
members -
A place to discuss everything about Pokémon VGC and Play! Pokemon video game events.
members -
Your home for College Basketball on the internet. Forever. Discord: https://discord.gg/redditcbb Twitter: https://twitter.com/redditCBB
members -
The subreddit for the greatest sports franchise of the 21st Century...NCAA Football
members -
This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Great War to today.
members -
**Welcome to Tales From Call Centers (TFCC), a place where we share tales from the trenches of the call center world!** This includes things like (but not limited to); Ridiculous caller demands Moronic and stupid things callers say Moral support after dealing with awkward and difficult callers Happy and positive calls
members -
Welcome! This is a subreddit for the discussion of the free visual novel Doki Doki Literature Club, created by Team Salvato. Join our discord! https://discord.gg/ddlc
members