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Aren't they marine fish, so wouldn't be found n a lake?

Ireland has constitutional protection for religious freedom, Article 4:

You are free to practise your religion and your freedom of conscience. The State guarantees not to endow or favour any religion and not to discriminate on the grounds of religion.

That said, the children in this case weren't Jewish. The Rabbi wasn't preforming a religious ritual, but an unlicensed medical procedure. That's why he was arrested, for technically impersonating a doctor.

If they were Jewish children, and if this was a religious ceremony, then the guards wouldn't couldn't have arrested him.

Some parents, depending on country, commonly think circumcision is hygienic, 80% of America men are circumcised.

Probably the Pink Quarry, Shap, Cumbria. Very popular spot for geology field trips.

https://www.mindat.org/loc-4683.html

It has just closed by the time I visited it in 1995. The same company owned the nearby Blue Quarry, a metamorphosed hornfelse. The manager of the quarry was a character, we were told that by other miners and quarry workers we met days before we arrived that he was a character. He talked more about his rally driving than quarrying. He had photos of himself and the missus rally driving on the wall of his office.

but the way this guy did it is 10 times worse. He didn’t do it hygenically the way it’s done correctly in hospital, he used his mouth

The children in this case were not Jewish, so given this was not a Jewish circumcision ceremony, Metzitzah b'peh was not carried out.

London rabbi arrested in Ireland over ‘illegal’ circumcision of non-Jewish babies

Seems these non-Jewish parents wanted a Rabbi to do this, maybe because they thought he would be competent, and to save money and avoid a hospital stay. There were twins, they got a two for one deal.

The news articles do not explain why the non-Jewish parents wanted their twin boys circumcised, it was not for religious reasons, but for some weird reason they got a Rabbi to perform the circumcision (by the time the guards arrived, one child was circumcised, the other was not).

While mohels perform circumcisions in line with Jewish tradition in Ireland and are legally allowed to do so, non-religious circumcision is considered a medical procedure rather than a religious ritual and requires a separate medical license. 

[London rabbi arrested in Ireland over ‘illegal’ circumcision of non-Jewish babies. London rabbi arrested in Ireland over ‘illegal’ circumcision of non-Jewish babies](https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/london-rabbi-arrested-in-ireland-over-illegal-circumcision-of-non-jewish-babies-dh6za0cm)

Therefore, being a non-religious circumcision, there was no logical reason to perform Metzitzah b'peh.

There's a big misunderstanding here.

Circumcision is allowed in Ireland for religious reasons, but the children involved were not Jewish, and as a result this was a non-religious circumcision, and therefore it should have been carried out by a licensed doctor for medical reasons.

The news articles do not explain why the parents wanted their twin boys circumcised, all we know it was not for religious reasons and for some weird reason they got a Rabbi to perform the circumcision (by the time the guards arrived, one child was circumcised, the other was not).

While mohels perform circumcisions in line with Jewish tradition in Ireland and are legally allowed to do so, non-religious circumcision is considered a medical procedure rather than a religious ritual and requires a separate medical license. 

London rabbi arrested in Ireland over ‘illegal’ circumcision of non-Jewish babiesLondon rabbi arrested in Ireland over ‘illegal’ circumcision of non-Jewish babies

Also, a lot of people are claiming the Rabbi performed Metzitzah b'peh, where the Mohel (person who circumcises) sucks on the glans after circumcision.

However, the children involved were not Jewish, so there's no logical reason to carry out this part of the ceremony.

Also, even if they were Jewish, it is unlikely he would have performed the literal version of Metzitzah b'peh as it is controversial among Jews and is rarely carried out, even in Israel, where medical bodies have called on it to be banned. There are cases in Europe where Rabbis have called the police on Mohel that carried out this part of the ritual. It is however carried out by some ultra-orthodox Haredi Jews, who are 15% of all Jews. There was a case in New York a few years ago where children contracted HPV-1 infection, one died.

Furthermore, he is supposedly a member of the Initiation Society, the oldest Anglo-Jewish organisation founded in 1745 that carries out circumcisions. They are medically trained to carry out the procedure and adhere to guidelines (or all least should) set out by the Jewish Medical Association, published here. Given he performed this as a "favour", he should be struck off the Initiation Society's register of Mohelim.

Well, as it only happens regularly in areas where ultraorthodox are the majority, and the ultraorthodox are about 10% - 15% of all Jews.

Yes, they don't drive on shabbat. Sometimes I this leads to protests in Israel, with ultraorthodox in Israel trying to stop traffic on shabbat...

https://youtu.be/_J6yDO9I5-Y

https://youtu.be/rcdBw87XCMI

Many have been quick to label this athlete as male use this Olympic women's boxing controversy against the inclusion of transgender athletes in women's sports. As a doctor and scientist, I want to clarify a crucial point: this athlete is not a "transgender person." Instead, she likely has a condition such as Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (AIS) or Swyer Syndrome, which makes her situation very different.

https://www.smobserved.com/story/2024/08/02/news/span-classbrnwsbreaking-news-spanboxer-imane-khelif-probably-isnt-transgender-she-more-likely-has-a-disorder-of-sexual-differentiation/8407.html

This assumes the original claim that she has XY (genetic) chromosomes is true.

It's clear from the conversation between these I responded to, that they assumed the Mohel in this case performs Metzitzah b'peh by mouth. I'm pointing out that's not true. My comments is relevant..

he used in his mouth

he used his WHAT

Yep

No he didn't.

I didn't realise my dialect would cause confusion.

Bet is an acceptable past tense form of beat in Hiberno-English e.g., He/she bet the head off ya is a common phrase here. Hiberno-English is influenticed by Irish and also retains some characteristics of Middle English, from before c. 1600. By c. 1750 in beat was both present and past tense, I see. So that might be why bet is retained as a past tense form of beat in Ireland and is sometimes used...

I seen him coming out and he started, like, crying but that’s probably two or three in the morning, Joe. I actually got bet up myself and another friend of mine from me pal (inaudible). He was from Bray.

The tyranny of the Irish Education beat Gaeilge into us on one side and bet our local Hiberno English dialects out of them on the other.

http://www.stevenroyedwards.com/irishenglishterms.html

The rite is not used in most Jewish circumcision ceremonies, but many in the ultra-Orthodox community still adhere to it.

Israeli pediatric association calls for end to circumcision-related rite

It's controversial among Jews, and is only practiced by ultraorthodox communities, there's also cases where Rabbis have reported Mohel to the police for carrying out Metzitzah b'peh by mouth.

The Initiation Society is guided and trained by the Jewish Medical Association, they adhere to a high degree of hygene, which bans Metzitzah b'peh by mouth. If the parents insist on Metzitzah b'peh they will use a sterile glass pipette.

The rite is not used in most Jewish circumcision ceremonies, but many in the ultra-Orthodox community still adhere to it.

Israeli pediatric association calls for end to circumcision-related rite

It's controversial among Jews, and is only practiced by ultraorthodox communities, there's also cases where Rabbis have reported Mohel to the police for carrying out Metzitzah b'peh by mouth.

The Initiation Society is guided and trained by the Jewish Medical Association, they adhere to a high degree of hygene, which bans Metzitzah b'peh by mouth. If the parents insist on Metzitzah b'peh they will use a sterile glass pipette.

The rite is not used in most Jewish circumcision ceremonies, but many in the ultra-Orthodox community still adhere to it.

Israeli pediatric association calls for end to circumcision-related rite

It's controversial among Jews, and is only practiced by ultraorthodox communities, there's also cases where Rabbis have reported Mohel to the police for carrying out Metzitzah b'peh by mouth.

Also, the Initiation Society is guided and trained by the Jewish Medical Association, they adhere to a high degree of hygene, which bans Metzitzah b'peh by mouth. If the parents insist on Metzitzah b'peh they will use a sterile glass pipette.

The rite is not used in most Jewish circumcision ceremonies, but many in the ultra-Orthodox community still adhere to it.

Israeli pediatric association calls for end to circumcision-related rite

It's controversial among Jews, and is only practiced by ultraorthodox communities, there's also cases where Rabbis have reported Mohel to the police for carrying out Metzitzah b'peh by mouth.

The Initiation Society is guided and trained by the Jewish Medical Association, they adhere to a high degree of hygene, which bans Metzitzah b'peh by mouth. If the parents insist on Metzitzah b'peh they will use a sterile glass pipette.

This is also the origin of the antisemitic blood libel, the middle ages myth that Jews sacrifice babies and drink their blood.

The rite is not used in most Jewish circumcision ceremonies, but many in the ultra-Orthodox community still adhere to it.

Israeli pediatric association calls for end to circumcision-related rite

It's controversial among Jews, and is only practiced by ultraorthodox communities, there's also cases where Rabbis have reported Mohel to the police for carrying out Metzitzah b'peh by mouth.

The Initiation Society is guided and trained by the Jewish Medical Association, they adhere to a high degree of hygene, which bans Metzitzah b'peh by mouth. If the parents insist on Metzitzah b'peh they will use a sterile glass pipette.

Initiation Society doesn't permit Mohel to carryout Metzitzah b'peh by mouth. They are guided and trained by the Jewish Medical Association, they adhere to a high degree of hygene. If parents insist on Metzitzah b'peh, the Mohel will use a sterile glass pipette.

The rite is not used in most Jewish circumcision ceremonies, but many in the ultra-Orthodox community still adhere to it.

Israeli pediatric association calls for end to circumcision-related rite

So it's controversial among Jews, and is only practiced by ultraorthodox communities. There's also cases where Rabbis have reported Mohel to the police for carrying out Metzitzah b'peh by mouth.

Initiation Society doesn't permit Mohel to carryout Metzitzah b'peh by mouth. They are guided and trained by the Jewish Medical Association, they adhere to a high degree of hygene. If parents insist on Metzitzah b'peh, the Mohel will use a sterile glass pipette.