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[–]herecomestherebuttal 4750 points4751 points  (167 children)

Walgreens openly denied me Plan B in 2020 because the pharmacist didn’t agree with dispensing it, “especially on a Sunday.” I am a 40-year-old married woman, not a kid, not that it matters. Walgreens has always been this way and they’re gleeful they can be more open about it now. Don’t fall for it.

[–]SnipesCC 656 points657 points  (31 children)

I have never been so aggressively carded as when I bought Plan B. I was about 30 at the time.

[–]Sarahmoon60 229 points230 points  (15 children)

There is NO age limit for buying plan B. Not since 2013.

[–]SnipesCC 82 points83 points  (0 children)

This was in early 2012.

[–]herecomestherebuttal 226 points227 points  (2 children)

That is appalling.

[–]SnipesCC 206 points207 points  (1 child)

And I was in a rush, since I was bumping up against the 72 hour window. it was the only 24 hour pharmacy in the area, already a 30 minute drive away.

[–]herecomestherebuttal 90 points91 points  (0 children)

What a horrible situation. I hope it all worked out for you.

[–]bellapippin 692 points693 points  (2 children)

Oh gosh I’ve gotten it a few times in the past where bc failed and I was already feeling bad myself just cause it happened, I can’t imagine having them be so unprofessional they would even think they’re in the right commenting about it and actually doing it and having to explain myself? Do they say something when kids try to buy condoms? It’s so fucked upppp mind your own biz….

[–]xxx_Moritz_xxx 481 points482 points  (20 children)

The fact that she makes it her personal business and not her JOB is so disgusting. I would never think to let my personal biases affect my work that blatantly. Just sell me the pill and fuck off.

[–]herecomestherebuttal 466 points467 points  (6 children)

Yeah. Where does it end? “I’m not filling your insulin prescription because you should have eaten better” ??

[–][deleted] 278 points279 points  (4 children)

"...and it's SUNDAY for crying out loud"

[–]herecomestherebuttal 190 points191 points  (2 children)

NO NEEDLE DRUGS ON THE LORD’S DAY, EVEN INSULIN

[–]PM_ME_FIREFLY_QUOTES 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I know what I've got. Next!

[–]Rapture1119 91 points92 points  (2 children)

Fr. Like there are jobs I wouldn’t be able to avoid having personal biases against (military being the obvious one), but that’s why I don’t apply for/take those jobs. If you don’t wanna fill a script, don’t be a pharmacist.

[–]Akhi11eus 40 points41 points  (0 children)

The behavior is clearly encouraged all the way up the chain. Companies have cultures, and those cultures can be toxic in every which way.

[–]Cool_Elix 131 points132 points  (4 children)

I would've clapped back with "and you're working on Sunday?"

[–]djhazmat 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Rules for thee, not for me!

[–]pinkpanzer101 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Death penalty!

[–]DurantaPhant7 113 points114 points  (5 children)

I’m a very ill person with a complicated medical condition with a team of specialized doctors and surgeons that I see on a weekly basis.

Walgreens made my life a living hell every month for 2 years trying to get my medications filled. The pharmacist decided I didn’t need the pain medication prescribed to me, and would put random holds, lose e-scripts, lie about insurance and authorization requests, just literally an issue every month.

I finally switched to a mom and pop and it’s night and day. The first month I came home with my scripts and sat down and cried because it was so easy. The last thing I need on top of my bullshit medical issues is judgement from the pharmacist. So this pharmacist thought she knew better than my team of doctors about what was the proper protocol for treatments, therapies, and medications for me and my condition.

Anyway, when I switched I also got a few family members to switch as well. Walgreens lost thousands of dollars a month in guaranteed income for repeating scripts. I wrote a lengthy email detailing my experience and you know what? I never even got a response.

I’m old enough to remember the glee everyone felt watching Blockbuster fail. It’s become romanticized recently, but Blockbuster was a terrible fucking company that treated their customers like shit. I’m sitting here hopeful that the same thing will happen to Walgreens. And tons of other mega corporations that have gotten too big to care about customers anymore.

[–]the-thieving-magpie 18 points19 points  (1 child)

OMG, I have chronic health issues and pain(I'm also a younger person so I always get the "you don't look sick/you're too young to be in pain" thing) and had CONSTANT issues with my pain medications at Walgreens. It was a NIGHTMARE.

[–]OverallDisaster 320 points321 points  (31 children)

Plan B is like a higer dose of hormonal BC intended to delay/stop ovulation. I wonder if that pharmacist knew that or if she took issue with giving anyone hormonal contraceptives. Pretty scary either way.

[–]herecomestherebuttal 288 points289 points  (6 children)

Sure - I’m not interested in the differentiation once the “because it’s Sunday” came into play. Asserting a personal opinion over someone’s right to healthcare is fucked up.

[–]OverallDisaster 115 points116 points  (4 children)

Of course. I guess I was just appalled at the lack of medical knowledge from a professional, but that really shouldn't be a surprise.

[–]RadiSkates 213 points214 points  (18 children)

A Walgreens cashier refused to sell condoms to a customer, and Walgreens backed them. The issue is 100% with people having sex.

[–]herecomestherebuttal 77 points78 points  (1 child)

Big time. And now they don’t even have to hide it anymore.

[–]Coral_Blue_Number_2 18 points19 points  (2 children)

That doesn’t even make sense unless they were behind glass. I would just rip the package open. What are they going to do, throw it away? Put it back?

[–]Emz324 106 points107 points  (0 children)

One time I went to buy a plan b at Walgreens and the pregnant cashier looked at me up and down all ugly. I proceeded to look down at her belly in the same manner like “don’t want to end up like you…duh” people really need to mind their own business

[–]Friend_of_Eevee 55 points56 points  (1 child)

They tried to deny me misoprostol. Ended up delaying my miscarriage almost a week because they wanted to hear firsthand what is was for. A doctor prescribed it, you don't need to know anything else. 100% they will do this with Mifepristone. My experience proves their system has a flag in place for these drugs.

[–]Lithl 94 points95 points  (9 children)

the pharmacist didn’t agree with dispensing it, “especially on a Sunday.”

Did they think people only buy Plan B on the day they have sex?

[–]herecomestherebuttal 88 points89 points  (3 children)

Everything about it was profoundly stupid, but I was so stunned I couldn’t muster up the resolve to say “Hey, I’m ill in a way that any pregnancy would result in malformation and a brutal miscarriage, so how about you help me prevent that before it starts, you absolute horse’s ass?”

[–]Survive1014 3354 points3355 points  (28 children)

I mean, thats a blatant lie. They allow their pharmacists to claim a bs belief and wont administer in states where its banned.

[–]Coakis 1067 points1068 points  (11 children)

The issue is that it's not banned any where currently. They just put the cart before the horse thinking that it would somehow benefit them by announcing that.

[–]ZeBloodyStretchr 467 points468 points  (5 children)

I read it is because Republican attorney generals are threatening to sue them and it scared them, now Dems are responding right back.

Edit: As u/TeamHope4 notes in the reply, Republican AGs threatened all pharmacies and Walgreens is the one to cave and that’s why they are being boycotted.

[–]TeamHope4 270 points271 points  (3 children)

You're right it's because of the letter the AG's sent threatening them with lawsuits. The AG's sent that letter to ALL the pharmacies, though, and Walgreens is the only one that preemptively decided to cave to threats of meritless and frivolous lawsuits.

That's why there needs to be a total boycott of Walgreens NOW, to deter the other pharmacies from following their lead. If you have to get your meds there because of insurance or whatever, do what you have to to take care of yourself, but don't buy a single other thing from Walgreens, not even a candy bar.

[–]ZeBloodyStretchr 34 points35 points  (1 child)

Thanks for the added input, didn’t know that.

[–]corylol 45 points46 points  (12 children)

Well if it was actually banned they I don’t think refusing to give people banned meds is going to upset many people. The issue is that it’s not banned at all.

[–]Cultural_Ad6253 6847 points6848 points  (259 children)

Lol they only came out with this because their stock tanked today

[–]MyHandIsNumb[S] 1486 points1487 points  (104 children)

This response was inevitable I feel bad for the PR team that has to try and salvage this trash fire

[–]Cultural_Ad6253 892 points893 points  (101 children)

Walgreens has been making a lot of mistakes for a lot of years, CVS has been out pacing them in a lot of areas, example is CVS bought caremark (a mail order pharmacy) and gives more ways to get your meds, they have minute clinics in some locations, my insurance has a contract with CVS for maintenance meds at a big difference in my co-ins part. My CVS will bill my insurance for vaccines where Walgreens will not except for flu. Walgreens in California is being hit hard with shoplifting gangs but CVS is not getting hit as hard. I feel back for them really cause they used to be great. Now CVS has been my go to pharmacy for awhile.

[–]500CatsTypingStuff 530 points531 points  (70 children)

I am in California and thinking about transferring my prescriptions from Walgreens to CVS. It’s important that I get it right because I have cancer and a lot of important prescriptions.

[–]chuckDTW 469 points470 points  (14 children)

Let CVS know why you are leaving Walgreens so they are not tempted to do what Walgreens is doing. If enough people do this businesses will realize that there is a very real cost to their bottom line to supporting a political party that injects chaos into their business. Republicans turning everything into a culture war means that businesses will have to choose which HALF of the country they are going to serve instead of having their products available to everyone.

I hope you’re able to transfer everything over and I’m sorry that you are put in the position of having to go to this trouble.

[–]Paladoc 84 points85 points  (3 children)

It ain't even half the country though, the cons are a minority that will continue to shrink as their base dies off and the idjits continue blatantly grifting so hard that even the most moronic chucklefuck realizes that they give no shit about them.

That's my optimistic hope though.

[–]chuckDTW 26 points27 points  (0 children)

You are right about that. It’s probably no more than 30%. I think many Republicans think this is going too far and most independents. And I think the harder these right wing, religious zealots push, even fewer people will support them. And they will push harder because they’ve decided that they are doing god’s will. People who are unsure of how they feel about this are not going to like it when they try to ban Harry Potter books or Halloween

[–]dogboyboy 109 points110 points  (6 children)

CVS owners are huge Trump supporters. Could easily see a future where they do the same. Try independent pharmacies if you can.

[–]armeck 52 points53 points  (1 child)

Unless you live in a deeply red state, and the odds are pretty good the local pharmacist is a trumper as well.

[–]Cultural_Ad6253 123 points124 points  (0 children)

That's rough, sorry to hear. Call CVS with a list of your meds, ask them if there is any back orders for any of your meds, when I had trouble getting one of my diabetes meds, CVS was able to get it back in stock in about 3 days. Didn't need it for 2 more days but I've never gone without, CVS was helpful. If you decide to do CVS, do it mid prescription, like weeks before you need it. They will hold it if you ask or put it in for a future fill. Maybe do one med at a time, see how it goes. This so sucks for you, I'm sorry.

[–]ExistingGoldfish 103 points104 points  (4 children)

If you have complex medication needs, I’d suggest using your hospital pharmacy. My mother recently went through cancer treatment, and we had issues getting controlled meds filled due to the frequent changes the pain management docs made, plus the adderall shortage, plus the combinations of meds at doses not meant for the typical human. The oncologist switched everything over to the hospital pharmacy and we never had a single problem after that.

[–]Paladoc 51 points52 points  (1 child)

But that's only if your local hospital still has an outpatient pharmacy.

Once the corps bought out our local hospitals,the first thing closed in both systems were their outpatient pharmacies.

[–]TennaTelwan 35 points36 points  (7 children)

If I had a CVS locally, or any other pharmacy locally other than Walgreens, I would have already transferred my prescriptions. A few years back, our local independent pharmacy was bought when the owner retired, with the stipulation to not sell to a chain pharmacy. A year later, the new owners were in such bad debt and getting a divorce, and Walgreens bought out the client list. There was no local alternative other than driving a half hour or more to get meds elsewhere.

We've had so many problems with our local Walgreens that the only reason I haven't transferred to anything else is because of the lack of competition here. And if I only had a few medications I could do it, but given that I'm on dialysis and picking up meds at times three times a week, and am there weekly, it's a hardship to have to travel out of town for anything more than I have to. To make matters worse, the area management for Walgreens has drastically cut work hours for its workers and pushed out quality and experienced pharmacists here in the name of profit.

In other words, if you have the ability, transfer your meds to CVS.

Edit: I have a long list of problems from dealing with our local Walgreens, including:

  • Taking 24 days to fill a 30 day prescription for blood pressure meds. As a dialysis patient, these are critical to prevent me from having a stroke or bleeding out at dialysis. I went two weeks without because of that. And while dialysis has their own pharmacy, I've been told by dialysis staff that it's just as bad.

  • Regularly out of blood pressure medications.

  • Randomly closes the pharmacy a various days of the week, without prior notice. So if that one day was the day you needed to pick up medications, you're out of luck. They have a sign up pointing to the nearest 24 hour pharmacy, but if you have a medication with a prior authorization, going to the other pharmacy restarts the prior authorization process.

  • Changing how vaccinations are prescribed. I used to get all my vaccines there until they changed to a pharmacist prescriber. My insurance does not allow a pharmacist to prescribe. It took a few days of phone calls to finally find someone in the region (yes, region) to let me get a Covid shot. Same now for flu shots. Prior to this, the local doctors sent people there for all vaccinations.

  • Losing my insurance card, calling me lazy, and then blaming me for it, more than once. Usually someone would find it there later that day, usually in the garbage.

[–]ProfHopeE 88 points89 points  (10 children)

Better yet, transfer to your small, locally owned pharmacy! They still exist!

[–]Foxy02016YT 27 points28 points  (0 children)

My dad knows the owners of mine (but as a mailman, how could he not) we have 2 actually, which is nice to have some local competition to make sure both are at their peak

[–]TaylorGuy18 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Hopefully they still exist!

Unfortunately that can also be a roll of the dice because I was using a locally owned pharmacy and the ownership changed and the quality of service plummeted, and they just flat out quit carrying one medication I use because it wasn't profitable enough for them. Thankfully another regional pharmacy that has a location where I live does carry it, so I switched to them.

[–]Poolofcheddar 19 points20 points  (1 child)

I was surprised to see my local pharmacy mentioned in the national news lately.

The problem local pharmacies face is that prescription benefits managers tend to shaft them. My local one mentioned that the diabetes/weight loss drug Ozempic isn't even carried by them anymore because it costs them $800 (whatever number) to obtain wholesale and only get $725 reimbursed from the customer's insurance.

The reason? Because CVS, Walgreens and others are juggernauts and have more negotiating power and will get their full reimbursements. The little guy doesn't have that.

[–]Florida1974 67 points68 points  (8 children)

I used Walgreens pharmacy for 2 decades. 2 years ago, Insurance didn’t renew Walgreens contract so I was forced to CVS. When it first switched, it was horrible for the first 6-8 months. Some examples -you place RXs on auto refill. Let’s say you run out of refills. CVS doesn’t allow you (at least not through app) to have them contact doc for new RX until the same day meds should be picked up. This is an issue with my asthma inhalers. By the refill date, I need the next one. -if you need to call CVS, good luck, it’s a minimum 30 min hold. -if you go in to pick up meds, stand in pick up line. Let’s say insurance price is wrong. You go stand at a different window to get that fixed. Then you get to go stand back in line for pick up. It’s all divided and one thing is done at this window, the other at another window. A crap ton of waiting.

-there were lots of other issues for 6-8 months. I’m now on year 2 and it’s better. But at first, I wanted to cry every time I had to deal with a RX.

[–]WorldWideWhit 36 points37 points  (3 children)

I feel the opposite. I was with CVS, but insurance made me switch to Walgreens. I very much dislike it. They regularly run out of my meds, I find the website/app super confusing, the staff is rude, and it takes forever to pick up my meds. Frustration to the point where i would rather run out of meds than go there and pick them up. Luckily, i found somebody to go pick up my meds for me.... I miss CVS.

And phone calls, i was on the phone for 25 minutes before I talked to a human about finding the status of my pain pills. The whole ordeal lasted 27 minutes and 56 seconds. Turns out my script got lost...

Edit: I've been with Walgreens since January 2022. I think.... Edit again: The phone call happened March 1.

[–]WorldWideWhit 24 points25 points  (2 children)

Not to say CVS is perfect. But i prefer CVS over Walgreens.

[–]princesshaley2010 44 points45 points  (1 child)

Didn’t Walgreens partner with Theranos too? That in itself should have ended them for not doing due diligence.

[–]p001b0y 28 points29 points  (0 children)

CVS Caremark is also a pharmacy benefit manager contributing to the high costs of pharmaceuticals.

When my employer’s plan switched to them, we lost the ability to get mail order prescriptions filled. We had to get 90 day supplies at a local pharmacy with no cost savings. A year later, they introduced it as a new benefit. We used to have it, they took it away, and then announced it as a great new money-saving benefit.

Also, every year, they require prior authorizations on existing prescriptions they had received prior authorizations for.

And they routinely medications non-formulary favoring more expensive versions. For example, generic humalog, manufactured by the same company, is non-formulary in favor of the more expensive branded version.

[–]kitzelbunks 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Actually this article says mostly the same thing, and it came out on Saturday. That statement doesn’t mention the four states that they said they weren’t giving it out because of “legal challenges”, meaning the court has not decided whether it will be allowed or not. I wonder if that did change or this just reiterates what they said before?

Edit: I forgot the link. Oops.

https://abc7chicago.com/walgreens-not-selling-abortion-pills-medication-mifepristone-jb-pritzker/12912794/

[–]choicebutts 1516 points1517 points  (25 children)

"Once we are certified by the FDA?" What does that mean? Have they not been authorized to dispense medications and controlled substances already?

[–]ceramicferns220 239 points240 points  (0 children)

As other have stated, the FDA has a risk evaluation and mitigation strategy (REMS) for mifepristone, so you have to obtain a special certification to dispense this particular drug. but the certification requirements are just a bit of administrative hassle, nothing particularly crazy. It's also dumb of the FDA to require this because mifeprex has been fDA approved for 20 years, we've seen the risks of the drug and as long as the person has been evaluated properly (for ectopic pregnancy and other higher risk conditions), it's a pretty low risk drug. The FDA are trying to remove some requirements on its dispensation thoguh, they just formally removed the in-person dispensing requirement so people can receive mifepristone in the mail.

[–]Florida1974 519 points520 points  (1 child)

Oh yea they have been certified. They paid a huge fine over opiates. 5.7 billion over 15 years. Paying it to settle lawsuits for opiate sales.

[–]choicebutts 75 points76 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I remember that, I believe it was in '06, a news story about a bunch of Walgreens getting busted for filling too many oxycodone prescriptions.

What's this "certified" business about? Is it related to their Oxy woes?

[–]Nuttonbutton 8636 points8637 points  (401 children)

But they will definitely still let pharmacists pretending that their religion actually prevents them from dispensing it play with people's lives.

[–]chuckDTW 433 points434 points  (46 children)

It’s crazy that any business would consider this a legitimate excuse to not do your job. Can you imagine a McDonald’s worker refusing to take the order of someone they knew to be divorced because “they have a sincere religious objection” to divorce? Sadly, this is what we need to do to fight back— malicious compliance; become unmanageable. Seriously, if you’re a pharmacist and you see a coworker refuse to provide this medication or a contraceptive to a customer, start asking customers if they are divorced or find other BS legit reasons not to serve them until your employer decides it’s not convenient to the success of their business to accommodate everyone’s delicate personal beliefs. If you get fired sue your employer for discriminating against your ‘sincerely held religious beliefs’ or for only selectively accommodating them for some workers and not others. The right looks for these types of opportunities for lawsuits and exploits them to force their beliefs on the rest of us and we need to fight fire with fire. Make businesses not want to support and donate to Republicans who are introducing chaos into their business model.

[–]goodmobileyes 209 points210 points  (10 children)

Imagine if a Muslim worker refused to serve anything he thought was haram. Just imagine how quickly the white supremacist mob would descend upon him and tell him to 'go back to his country'

[–]CrownOfPosies 116 points117 points  (3 children)

Or if Jews refused to serve people cheese burgers.

[–][deleted] 155 points156 points  (18 children)

"Excuse me, have you ever made a PB&J sandwich, using the same knife in both the peanut butter jar and the jelly jar?"

[–]PoopyDipes 76 points77 points  (3 children)

Such people certainly don’t deserve medication.

[–]Soren072 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Such people deserve medication only because they are obviously insane

[–]the--larch 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Im sorry, I’m a vegetarian, so your BigMac has no burger on it.

[–]J_Warphead 42 points43 points  (6 children)

Imagine a McDonald’s where the vegan employees will only allow you to have salads and fries.

That would make me way less angry because they’re not fucking with anyone’s lives.

Christians are mentally handicapped, they shouldn’t be trusted with science anyway since they don’t believe in it.

[–]MyHandIsNumb[S] 3051 points3052 points  (326 children)

I can’t imagine what other reason a pharmacist would have to deny someone their medication besides religious zeal

Edit: Apologies to the pharmacists, I didn’t realize how much work y’all do to make sure your patients have their proper meds

[–]cujobob 528 points529 points  (21 children)

It is against my religious beliefs to do the job I applied for.

[–]suggested_username10 1776 points1777 points  (73 children)

If they have religious reasons for not handing out medication, they should look for a different form of employment. End of story.

[–]realRepublican_jesus 728 points729 points  (29 children)

Like that city clerk and marriage licenses

[–]b0nger 501 points502 points  (20 children)

Kim Davis of Kentucky.

That was 2015 and she just got ruled against in court in 2022

[–]hufflepuffpuffpasss 253 points254 points  (15 children)

Damn I didn’t know that was Kentucky. I moved here a few years ago and the surprises keep coming.

At least I live in the same city as the guy who punched Rand Paul.

[–]mrsegraves 120 points121 points  (8 children)

Wouldn't that mean you also live in the same city as Rand Paul? It was his neighbor that swung on him

[–]jt3455 52 points53 points  (3 children)

And also where Emmitt Till's killer is located.

[–]hufflepuffpuffpasss 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Oh yeah. Can’t forget that. Also, some Republican women’s club held a meeting in which one of the cops who murdered Breonna Taylor was the guest speaker at a restaurant a few blocks from my house.

Kentucky is wild af, I’m from a blueish state so it’s been some culture shock haha

[–]MisanthropyIsAVirtue 113 points114 points  (6 children)

It’s not what you think. As a triple divorcée she was just trying to protect gay couples from the same struggles. Probably. Because how could you claim to defend the sanctity of an institution that you treat as disposable? That would be crazy.

[–]deadliftothersup 179 points180 points  (5 children)

Had a clinical student in our program object to treating gay patients out of principle. He was told that you need to be able to separate your personal feelings towards the patient and that it was a violation of our professional ethics especially since in rural areas, alternatives likely wouldn't be available, leading to an absence of care.

The dude left the program and went on to spend the next few years that I noticed on social media pretending to be some sort of victim of the system, all because he couldn't be a bigot when dawning his lab coat.

[–]SeduceMeMentlegen 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Lmao you'd hope someone with medical aspirations could at least be aware of something as simple as the Hippocratic oath, or more specifically, that it's not up to him to deny help, if it is within his power to do so

Also not to be pedantic, sorry; you misspelt 'donning' as 'dawning'

[–]Gamemode_Cat 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I don’t understand why that guy was so hate filled. If I was a doctor, I’d treat anyone who needed it, except for possibly a pedo. There’s a reason for malpractice insurance

[–]G07V3 194 points195 points  (18 children)

It’s like a vegan cashier refusing to checkout someone who is buying animal products. A cashiers job is to scan and price customers products that they’re buying just like how a pharmacists job is to give customers their prescription.

[–]Biz_Rito 112 points113 points  (7 children)

God, I never thought of that... refusing to scan groceries that run against my just-now-adopted Hindu beliefs

[–]frnzks 115 points116 points  (6 children)

Welcome to America! Just so you know, these religious protections are intended only for Christians. You might get away with that, you might not. Good luck! /s

[–]mollymuppet78 75 points76 points  (4 children)

Right? Can you imagine? "I don't believe in mental illness. No meds for you."

[–]Revolutionary_Cup500 35 points36 points  (2 children)

That's coming. They believe you "just pray it away". I grew up with the Evangelical Church. Evangelical Christian "doctor" told my grandmother in 1969 that it was her fault that she didn't pray hard enough and was a bad mother because her son had schizophrenia. It took my mother, who was her daughter in law, to BEG her to send him to a state institution to get treatment. Finally she prevailed. Let me just say for ALL ETERNITY, you cannot pray away mental illness. You cannot pray away schizophrenia, depression, bipolar disorder etc. The same way you cannot pray away cancer. These are ILLNESSES. We do not live in the GD Dark Ages. If you want to believe in God, Krishna or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, great, but we have evolved to use our brains. We have empirical Truths and science. I have a long ago ancestor who we have his Input registration from a historical Center from the very first state run "Insane Asylum" of our state. He was a "god fearing" man who suffered through what was known in Pre-Victorian times as "Religious Mania and Melancholia". What we know to be manic depression, which just so happens to run on that side of the family as well. Now, thanks to science, that yes, mental illness like other diseases can be hereditary. The man literally thought if he prayed to God hard enough (fervent praying, self induced harm) that God would take away his voices (mania) and when that didn't happen, He went into weeks, months long depressive episodes because, and this is from his intake, "God had abandoned him", which is so sad. And this my friends, is Religious Trauma. You can use prayer and power of positive thinking in your life. it's like meditation. HOWEVER, it cannot be a substitute for the treatments we have for mental illness today. It's not perfect but much better than being chained to a wall in your own piss and vomit, stark raving mad.

[–]not_SCROTUS 51 points52 points  (0 children)

This would be a great thing for vegans to do actually. Let's see if the law only protects Christians or if other sincerely held beliefs are on the same level. And then I can tell the IRS how Satan does not want me to pay taxes.

[–][deleted] 102 points103 points  (1 child)

Yea, their job is to do the task, not choose who to do the task for

[–]Altruistic-Text3481 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Separation of church and stated prescriptions.

[–]kvossera 83 points84 points  (3 children)

Or not be allowed to be the only pharmacist on duty.

Or realize that their religious beliefs are theirs for them to follow.

[–]3qtpint 1080 points1081 points  (90 children)

And at that point they shouldn't be a public pharmacist, they should go to a pharmacy where it's expected that certain medications aren't filled out.

Imagine having to sync your medication pick ups with Walgreens staff schedule. If you are working at a public pharmacy and you are religious, you're going to have to be ok with selling and filling out legal doses of legal medications

[–]Quick_Team 846 points847 points  (20 children)

they should go to a pharmacy where it's expected

"Hiiieee! Welcome to Mother Mary Pharmacy of Glory! How many thoughts and prayers are you picking up today?"

[–][deleted] 494 points495 points  (14 children)

"No thoughts, three prayers, and my oxy refill. Praise Jebus."

[–]ShrimpBoatCaptain4 131 points132 points  (4 children)

"under His eye."

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (0 children)

It is coming to that, if we let the zealots have their way.

[–]_Mechaloth_ 37 points38 points  (0 children)

“Oh. As it so happens, we just sent out our last prayers to the victims of the latest shooting. Sorry about that.”

[–]WyrdMagesty 71 points72 points  (5 children)

"Is there any way we could increase my dose of prayers? 3 just doesn't seem to be cutting it."

[–]PHI41-NE33 110 points111 points  (0 children)

Sorry, your insurance doesn't cover a full rosary

[–]livinginfutureworld 38 points39 points  (3 children)

"Is there any way we could increase my dose of prayers? 3 just doesn't seem to be cutting it."

(One week later)

"Okay we upped the dose of prayers and 3 million prayers doesn't seem to be doing anything either!'

[–]1na7ax04en 84 points85 points  (2 children)

We have a youth pastor here in case you need a molestation.

[–]Immortal-one 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Can you pick that up in the drive through?

[–]1na7ax04en 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The car wash at the gas station next door has been refitted with a dozen youth pastors...

[–]tatanka01 73 points74 points  (0 children)

Along with that, politicians should stop dispensing medical policy.

[–]chuckDTW 211 points212 points  (32 children)

Make a public stink and pull your prescriptions from Walgreens if this happens to you. I know it’s not an option for everyone, especially if you live in a rural area, but if you have options let Walgreens know that you will be getting your prescriptions filled at another pharmacy from now on and that they’ve lost your business for any other purchases as well.

[–]SleepyMcSheepy 54 points55 points  (1 child)

One of the many reasons I love mark Cuban’s pharmacy.

[–]fangirlsqueee 150 points151 points  (0 children)

Yes. Video it and post it on social media. Tag Walgreens. Publicly shame them for hurting American citizens. Mention boycott as much as possible.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I moved mine to CVS yesterday.

[–]ZerexTheCool 918 points919 points  (64 children)

I work at Starbucks. But I am a divot Mormon. So if anyone orders coffee or caffeine, I ignore the order or replace it with a non sinful drink.

Forcing others to adhere to my religion is my religious right!

[–]cshotton 407 points408 points  (23 children)

Divot Mormons only hang out on the fairways of golf courses, right?

[–][deleted] 329 points330 points  (12 children)

And definitely not to be confused with the seventh hole adventists.

[–]T00luser 77 points78 points  (6 children)

I've heard that it's the naughtiest one.

[–]bootyhole-romancer 27 points28 points  (0 children)

At least they stay in one spot, unlike those Jehovah's Titleists and their hole-to-hole preaching

[–]Dad-Baud 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Left nostril ftw.

[–]Cleverusername531 57 points58 points  (1 child)

I am literally laughing out loud (not just exhaling through my nose while smiling).

[–]benema1 21 points22 points  (0 children)

It’s proper to replace your divot. Thank you.

[–]Patteous 389 points390 points  (7 children)

I know a guy going to a baptist college for pharmacy tech. He said they spent 4 weeks on how to deny people medication due to religious beliefs and the laws surrounding it. Absolutely disgusting.

[–]mjs_jr 155 points156 points  (2 children)

That should be reportable to the authority that certifies/accredits the education there.

[–]SecretCartographer28 90 points91 points  (0 children)

That fight is 45 years old. 🕯✌

[–]deshara128 52 points53 points  (3 children)

reminds me of an ex who went to business management school during the pandemic & would sit in the living room thru lecture after lecture of how to union bust & suppress wages. it was wild, i described it as a soul extraction machine

i remember seeing a test ask "your employees all bring in big sales, mark all the appropriate ways to reward them" & the options were, applebees gift card, pizza party, ice cream, wage increase. mark all but the last one & get a point. i couldn't believe my fucking eyes

[–]BigMax 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Their motto should be a variation on something positive. A happy “Need medication? Try us!” Tweaked to “need medication? Just try us, we dare you.”

[–]Zilberfrid 93 points94 points  (15 children)

Interactions between medicines or side effects the patient has. You know, the thing they studied for.

[–]Vivi36000 79 points80 points  (1 child)

Oh, of course. They do this in smaller, pettier ways, too.

My friend grew up in a small town, where everyone knows everyone else's business. Well. She has ADHD. She got prescribed medication for it. She even did a piss test and agreed to do monthly piss tests, which insure that the drug isn't being sold by the person receiving the prescription (if it's detected in your urine, you're obviously taking it as intended, is the idea, whereas if it isn't, but you're always refilling your subscriptions...well).

Because everyone knows that her mother has struggled with substance abuse in the past - and who, for the record, has turned her life allllllllll the way around, like it made me cry in the car after seeing her mom for the first time in years, I'm so proud of her - the pharmacist at her local pharmacy decided not to fill her prescription. She even told her, explicitly, that was why. When my friend called corporate to complain, they told her that their pharmacists can deny a prescription for any reason they want.

So if she wants her medicine, she has to drive further to get it. She has two small children and her husband works most of the day with their one (1) family car. How the fuck is that okay????? And she lives pretty far in the sticks, so I don't think delivery is even an option for her. They didn't get curbside pickup at their grocery stores until like. Last year.

[–]16v_cordero 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Someone in the medical industry that puts his faith before what he is a profesional for sounds like an oxymoron.

[–]shadowheart1 53 points54 points  (2 children)

This. Pharmacies need to be required to have someone on staff at all times who will fill any prescriptions. If someone refuses because reasons then you'd better have a second person on staff who can fill it.

[–]merchillio 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It’s a bit like the Conservative Party here in Canada where the leader says he would never EVER propose a bill to make abortions illegal! But… if one of the relatively unknown back-bencher proposes a bill… “I can’t infringe on their liberty to do so”….

[–]inkslingerben 767 points768 points  (23 children)

Walgreens PR damage control is not working. Already some pharmacists are not filling prescriptions because the medicine goes against their religious beliefs.

I would hate to be in a life or death situation and the pharmacist decides whether I live or die.

[–]hmmcn 1154 points1155 points  (3 children)

BOYCOTT STILL IN EFFECT REGARDLESS OF PANDERING TWEET

[–]Local_Working2037 851 points852 points  (6 children)

That was quick. The plan previously publicized was to not provide these medications even where it is legal is they have a Republican governor.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/walgreens-will-not-sell-abortion-pills-20-gop-states-rcna73237

This is a new position. They just don’t want to be accept that their position did change due to boycotts.

[–]ForHoiPolloi 155 points156 points  (0 children)

It’s the basics of doublethink. “We would never!” When called out for it… “We always planned to.” It preys on people forgetting or not being properly informed. Also admitting boycotts work terrifies corporations. It’ll legitimize the power the consumers actually have.

[–]mrlt10 110 points111 points  (0 children)

I'm not certain it's new because of the "Once we are certified by the FDA" language there at the beginning of the second paragraph. What does it mean? They're a pharmacy already licensed/certified and giving people their Rxs every day, and Mifepristone is legal and approved by the FDA, so what is this special certification that they don't already have but needed to dispense that drug? Why hasn't it been an issue for any other major chains?

Edit: So the certification is to dispense mifepristone by perscription without a doctor present, as was required by the drug specific Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategy(REMS) program for Mifepristone before 2021. In the second half of 2020 the FDA was actually prohibited by court order from enforcing the in-person requirement, then in 2021 the FDA announced that it would use it's discretion not to enforce the in-person requirement and would undertake a comprehensive review of the REMS. In the end of 2021 they revised the REMS requirements to get rid of the in-person dispensing requirement and added the pharmacy certification. In Jan 2023 the FDA finally voted on the updated REMS and approved it effective immediately. At no point did they say they would stop using their discretion in enforcing the in-person requirement. So I highly doubt there is any risk for Walgreens associated with dispensing the drug now before they get the certification. That along with the fact they have not given any details on their application for certification make me very skeptical of their public statement. (all info the info about the FDA process i got fromthis FDA site Questions 11 and 13)

Edit 2: added

[–]EllieAntsRAwesome 1333 points1334 points  (37 children)

Walgreens still upholds pharmacist citing “Religious Beliefs” as a reason to not give medication.

Walgreens used the words “plan” as a way to safely set the stage so they could backtrack at any given time.

Walgreens is trash & deserves to be ✨eliminated✨

[–]TheOneWhoDucks 93 points94 points  (2 children)

America’s health system is a dumpster fire. It’s baffling that in 2023 people still use their imaginary friend in the sky as a valid reason to be assholes.

[–]bluemew1234 379 points380 points  (3 children)

There were at least 4 states it was legal in where they said they'd stop selling it, so Walgreens can fuck all the way off.

[–]Florida1974 652 points653 points  (3 children)

Kinda ironic that Walgreens had no issue handing out opiates.
Now I know some ppl truly need opiates for certain medical reasons but……they sure didn’t stop selling those bc it was killing ppl.

[–]CornCobKnobGobbler 101 points102 points  (3 children)

Kowtow to the fash, face the backlash. Good on California for telling Walgreens to fuck off

[–]Wrong_Truth7719 968 points969 points  (6 children)

I chose not to buy there any longer.

It’s not cancel culture.

It’s capitalism.

Deal with it.

[–]_AnecdotalEvidence_ 451 points452 points  (1 child)

Exactly. Cancel culture is just conservative rebranding for the free market because they are no longer the most dominant and profitable consumer market.

Edit: Vesla Waever’s work “Frontlash: Race and Development of Punitive Crime Policy” is an excellent academic illustration of this and how it has been used to transform public policy.

[–]SportsPhotoGirl 44 points45 points  (0 children)

I’m ool on this one but I’ve never had a positive experience at Walgreens and stopped going there years ago.

[–]ed1749 205 points206 points  (0 children)

This. Capitalism and Democracy have always been one and the same with "cancel culture". If we the people decide something is intolerable, it is our obligation to cut all our support. Anyone who believes otherwise clearly doesnt understand the foundation the U.S. was built on.

[–]Tiger_Striped_Queen 79 points80 points  (0 children)

And yet the religious pharmacists who will deny women life saving medications will happily fill opioid prescriptions and boner pills.

[–]HODLAHITIII 62 points63 points  (11 children)

Please help your uninformed euro-trash ocean neighbour. What is this about?

[–]Patient_Inevitable58 67 points68 points  (0 children)

Walgreens announced they weren't going to distribute abortion pills and states where it wasn't banned yet and faced a lot of backlash and people said they were going to boycott them so now that now they're panicking and try to walk it back hope that helps - from your friend from the states

[–]ShadowTacoTuesday 73 points74 points  (9 children)

Abortion pill is still legal to sell in many Republican states but Walgreens bent to their politics and stopped carrying it. After the backlash they lied and said they didn’t carry it because it was illegal.

[–]HODLAHITIII 72 points73 points  (3 children)

Thank you kindly. I will refrain from the standard European schadenfreude and wish your country godspeed.

[–]Caftancatfan 37 points38 points  (1 child)

This warms my heart way too much right now.

[–]Femboys_took_myheart 117 points118 points  (12 children)

Walgreens lost my business about a year ago when they stopped accepting my insurance for my ADHD meds CVS is so much better

[–]YarnAndMetal 141 points142 points  (0 children)

Backpedal faster, assholes.

[–]holymoly72 107 points108 points  (3 children)

God I love Australia. No pharmacy can refuse to fill a legitimate script. PBS for many drugs. No big pharma as they are all fighting to be on the PBS.
Edit to add legitimate.

[–]NHRADeuce 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Hahahahahahaha! Wow, I hope nobody got whiplash from back pedaling so fast.

[–]Puzzleheaded_Power55 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Nah Fuck them, this company stated that they will stop selling the day of after pill, just because the KS attorney general told the to stop. The company's response was sure will, even though no laws have changed currently just a dumbass lawsuit.

[–]RabbitLikesCandy 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Except they also allow their pharmacists to not dispense when it violates their own religious beliefs, so um no. This press release is not true.

[–]Bulky-Internal8579 308 points309 points  (5 children)

The federal government, which regulates prescription medication, has approved Mifepristone for pharmacies to distribute. There are no other "jurisdictions" in the United States that have authority to regulate prescription medication. What Walgreens is saying is that they are dishonest cowards, who will kow tow to the bigots and misogynists in the GQP because they DGAF about women's health or their legal standing to obtain medicines that doctors have prescribed them.

[–]ReviewOk929 87 points88 points  (0 children)

Under his eye…or lie, whatever you prefer

[–]Artistic-Habit 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Maybe just maybe don’t side with the people that overturned Roe v Wade in any sense.

Maybe, make the statement that regardless of state. Your company will work to bring support to all would be mothers regardless of which mini fascism run state they live in

[–]MemePizzaPie 117 points118 points  (2 children)

As a pharmacist, go fuck yourself walgreens.

[–]chuckDTW 31 points32 points  (6 children)

Why do businesses keep donating and supporting the GOP? The GOP turns everything into a culture war battle for their own benefit and businesses that have spent decades trying to figure out how to market to everyone are now faced with selling to only half the country because they have to pick a side. It’s a no-win situation unless they take the party promoting this chaos out of the equation entirely. Those tax cuts aren’t going to be as impressive if your overall sales tank because half the country is inevitably going to boycott you no matter what you do.

[–]Relevant-Avocado5200 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Why do businesses keep donating and supporting the GOP?

"Nice business you have there.. Shame if something where to happen to it.."

MTG has repeatedly threatened investigating any company that stopped donating to the Republicans after Jan 6.

DeSantis actually DID go after Disney for saying they would stop/limit donations to Florida Republicans after the "Don't say gay" bill was passed.

[–]Bulky-Internal8579 21 points22 points  (0 children)

It's like a movie! "Backpeddling as they could, riding hard out of the friendly fascist territory, the brave Walmart C-Suite saved the super rich shareholders asses, again, and triumphed over the poors!

[–]Mysterious_Tax_5613 22 points23 points  (4 children)

"Once we are certified by the FDA?"

So, they were never certified?

[–]CryptoKn1ght007 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Damage is done, they won’t be able to recover their image from this.

[–]CodenameZoya 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Too late. You showed your cards mfers

[–]UrBigBro 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Walgreens, are right-wingers enough to keep you in business? Every reputable poll I've seen shows Americans (even in the red states) want to keep abortion legal.

[–]Wooden_Suit_6679[🍰] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Sorry fuck faces you're already on the list with the rest Hobby Lobby Chick Filet Home Depot and Walmart can all thoroughly eat my asshole for the rest of my days on this stupid rock.

[–]LeftyLu07 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Their pharmacists and cashiers have been denying women and girls prescribed medicine and condoms for years. They're just upset that people are finally sick of it and boycotting. I already had plans to switch everything over to my grocery store pharmacy. I'll just wait for my doctor to put in a new prescription

[–]DHencho1190 63 points64 points  (4 children)

If only they had billions of dollars to lobby state senators…

[–]MyHandIsNumb[S] 44 points45 points  (3 children)

Not sure Walgreens has the influence to lobby it’s way around a California ban

It’s not like they’re Disney

[–]Weak-Cancel1230 15 points16 points  (0 children)

walgreens is a shit pharmacy and demands patient - doctor information for most drugs! They will allow wacko religious right wackos to deny meds just on thier "beliefs" BAN THEM and switch your pharmacies!

[–]irregawdlessND 12 points13 points  (0 children)

"Providing legally approved medications to patients is what pharmacies do..." Really giving Republican politician replying to journalists vibes.

The Hobby Lobby of pharmacies has assured us they will still do nothing when their religious zealout employees deny medication. Yay /s

[–]Any-Succotash-7903 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Backpedaling like Fred Flintstone leaving the garage.

[–]IWasWatchingC0ps 54 points55 points  (0 children)

"...plans to..."

That's very meticulously selected wording. It gives them an out. Plans change. Shit happens. "But that was never our plan."