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[–]Randommaggy 3620 points3621 points  (300 children)

The bands with elder appeal should play extra matine shows for retirees. As long as it's few bands doing it they'll have a practical monopoly on that market.

[–]greensandgrains 1710 points1711 points  (131 children)

I’m 32 and I prefer matinees. Hell, I want a breakfast show.

[–]McShane727 1023 points1024 points  (70 children)

Coming soon to a city near you: Bacon, Eggs & Breaking Benjamin. Fallout Boy & Falafel. Neutral Milk Hotel & Bed & Breakfast. Ke$ha & Quiche. The Front Bottoms & Bottomless Mimosas. Biscuits & Yung Gravy. Beyoncé & Creme Brûlée. Hozier & Hors d'Oeuvres.

[–]outofdate70shouse 309 points310 points  (15 children)

Bacon Benjamin and Lunch Bizkit

[–]CloudiusWhite 133 points134 points  (3 children)

Lunch Bizkit

Suddenly the chocolate starfish and the hotdog flavored water become more literal than ever lol

[–]VelvetHorse 23 points24 points  (1 child)

After Bacon Benjamin and during Lunch Bizkit a side dish of Korn will be served.

[–]djheat 54 points55 points  (3 children)

Lunch Bizkit? Man this festival used to be about breakfast, everyone sells out eventually I guess

[–]FleshlightModel 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Neutral Milk Hotel rules. I'll take a bed and breakfast jam session while snacking on some pancakes then pass out and wake up in the afternoon for doing regular adult shit and going to bed at a decent hour.

[–]zeppelinoasis[🍰] 56 points57 points  (4 children)

This happens. Especially in bluegrass. I saw Ricky Skaggs recently and he did a 4pm and an 8pm show

[–]Ok-Elderberry-9765 170 points171 points  (13 children)

Or those of us with children than can find a babysitter earlier in the day better than at night.

[–]MostExpensiveThing 196 points197 points  (6 children)

Drop the kids at school, go see Slayer, and home again. Perfect day

[–]AdAlternative0666 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The ideal future right there

[–]mssmish 267 points268 points  (94 children)

Yes! All the people who yell 'sit down' when you're trying to dance can go to the matinee

[–]DaLimpster 48 points49 points  (8 children)

Dude this happened to me at a Tears For Fears concert... whole venue was on their feet except for a row of people behind me. I'm still not over it lol.

[–]Mr-Reanimator 6560 points6561 points  (401 children)

I went to a concert a few years ago that started at like 2 p.m. and it was honestly so fun lol, it was nice being out at a concert during the day, going until sundown.

[–]matskopf 3026 points3027 points  (337 children)

Festivals might be a fun experience for you then. They are often Open Air and there is often much to discover.

[–]Gumbyizzle 2385 points2386 points  (164 children)

Like MDMA!

[–]Baxterado 277 points278 points  (24 children)

Who's this chick Molly people keep calling out on the crowd?

[–]harrisonh_14 125 points126 points  (14 children)

Who’s Sara Tonin and where can I find her?

[–]2M4D 368 points369 points  (70 children)

Love that band

[–][deleted] 228 points229 points  (59 children)

Its awesome to take some KMFDM then listen to some MDMA.

[–]TheBirminghamBear 77 points78 points  (12 children)

Its awesome to take some KMFDM

Ketamine Made For Daring Mothers?

[–]Riftbarker 63 points64 points  (14 children)

Better than the best

[–]opopkl 60 points61 points  (25 children)

And interesting new smells.

[–]GrizNectar 125 points126 points  (22 children)

I personally love the smell of cocaine on a bright sunny afternoon at a festival

[–]cbelaski 70 points71 points  (0 children)

Helps clear your blocked sinuses from the dust and cocaine from the night before!

[–]IM_PEAKING 11 points12 points  (20 children)

Username checks out.

Might wanna change it tho, cuz you know…

[–]GrizNectar 13 points14 points  (19 children)

Yea.. i unfortunately definitely know. Have debated changing it many times since but never actually did it, plus a lot of various unrelated communities have grown to recognize me. I probably will eventually. Sucks it all came crashing down the way it did. At least griz is seemingly a good person lol

[–]tankiolegend 80 points81 points  (12 children)

People joke about being offered free drugs but yup my first festival during 21 pilots this girl i was chatting with just offers me half her bag of MDMA

[–]joe579003 95 points96 points  (2 children)

Maybe it looked like you were STRESSED OOOOOUUT

[–]MajAsshole 35 points36 points  (3 children)

Yes! Time To Pretend is one of my favorite songs, along with All My Friends by LSD Soundsystem.

[–]Phillip_Lipton 109 points110 points  (45 children)

I like the idea, hated the experience.

Where my mid 30s festivals at?

I'm only smoking weed, and I'm going to be in bed by 10.

[–]-_Empress_- 114 points115 points  (28 children)

Yo. I'm in my mid 30s, as is my whole group, and we do EDM festivals every year. There's a shitload of people our age there. We roll comfy. We get an air bnb (whole house) somewhere chill and quiet, I rent like 3 lockers and keep a bunch of stuff in them for the weekend so we don't have to pack stuff around constantly, and then we set up a spot each day with a great view. Picnic blankets, air hammocks, blankets for when it gets chilly, I've got my umbrella for shade, hand fans, snacks, etc. I spend probably 70% of the time sitting cozied up in my air hammock (for the uninitiated, it's a giant inflatable vagina you can sit in literally fucking anywhere), and chill out. My skeleton is all old and broken lol. And then I'll periodically go frolic around the event grounds. At the end of the night, we head back to the air bnb and I make everyone my spicy pork street tacos (it's a tradition now haha), tea, and we smoke, take long showers, then pass out for a good night's rest. Basically fully comfortable the entire event. I regularly get comments from people who are like holy shit you are the most comfortable person I've ever seen. A great compliment. I strive for comfort above all else.

It's a great way to do it. My group is between 32 - 45 as far as our age range goes so we're all fully into the "my knees hurt and I need a quiet place with a real bed to sleep" stage of our lives, but raves are our tradition, so we've made it a really smooth experience. I'm like the group's comfort sherpa and happy to do it. So much fun.

[–]vancityvic 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I don’t care if I’m not young enough to say it but “that is a whole vibe” B-)

[–]Legend13CNS 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Do you have any festivals you recommend for using your approach? And if you don't mind, what that usually ends up costing? My group that used to party hard at festivals when we were 18-21 would probably be really interested in that kind of setup. We're definitely also approaching the "my knees hurt and I need a quiet place with a real bed to sleep" phase of life. Although last time we tried to plan something it was more "we don't have enough PTO for the necessary recovery from a 3 day festival based on last time".

The travel aspect is a killer now too, it was way easier to get people together when all we had to do was drive across town to someone's house 20 mins from Red Rocks.

[–]bibrexd 41 points42 points  (8 children)

The answer: it’s in VIP.

I don’t do much fests these days but before I stopped I only went VIP and VIP to fests where it really made a difference.

Also no teens rule for any fest, that’s your fest.

Edit: RIP mamby on the beach, best fest ever for old people.

[–]JoshBobJovi 18 points19 points  (5 children)

If this ain't the damn truth. I did 8-10 fests a year from 24-28. Finally backed off and started traveling more, only going to a couple fests a year, generally Electric Forest or Backwoods. Im 34 now and my wife and friends mentioned bonnaroo this year and I told them you'd never catch me dead there unless we went VIP. So now I guess we're going to Bonnaroo lol.

[–]theevilmidnightbombr 6 points7 points  (4 children)

I've done a bunch of Roo's, some rabdom Canadian and American fests, and Glastonbury. I'd only consider Glasto again. I know I'm moving into my late 30s, but festivals don't have the same vibe anymore. People at Bonnaroo used to give Coachella tourists shit, but it's all the same now, imho.

I need smaller, hippie-ish festivals. Where good vibes are the feeling, not the copyright slogan.

Ironic that when I was a festival regular, starting with Bonnaroo in 2008, old heads were already calling it a sellout fest, lol.

[–]Panfriedpuppies 25 points26 points  (8 children)

Shoutout to Austin City Limits, most fun I've had at a music event.

[–]JonnyTN 96 points97 points  (68 children)

They are $$$ AF usually. Ticketmaster owns most big venues around me and when they have these festivals, it's sometimes part of the festival contact for the band that they can't play in 100 mile radius within 4 months of the concert at smaller venues. I just want to see the one band sometimes. Not pay 300+ for a day/weekend pass

[–][deleted] 79 points80 points  (9 children)

Festivals are way better value if you like the lineup though. You could easily see more bands/dj's in a weekend than you would in the rest of the year

[–]Notwhoiwas42 38 points39 points  (7 children)

Not pay 300+ for a day/weekend pass

You often have to pay close to that just to see a single major artist/group these days

[–]oops_i_made_a_typi 26 points27 points  (12 children)

Better value for those who want to see more than 1 artist/day, imo.

[–]hgihasfcuk 69 points70 points  (13 children)

Yea warped tour used to start early in the morning too we would get fucked up and stay up the night before it every year. Same with Mayhem fest and rock on the range

[–]lackofself2000 21 points22 points  (3 children)

As someone who worked Warped Tour at my local venue, it wasn't great having so many people pass out from the heat, before the place even opened. I'm not kidding. for a 30k person venue, we'd have at least 10 people at the 1st Aid booth before the doors opened. That's what happens when you have an all day event starting on blacktop with kids who don't know better getting amped up on energy drinks at the end of July.

[–]JediJofis 35 points36 points  (1 child)

Oh my God as someone in their 30s that sounds awful

[–]_-WanderLost-_ 32 points33 points  (0 children)

It was warped tour. We’re all over 30 now.

[–]withrootsabove 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I miss Warped and getting your first mosh of the day in at 11:30am.

[–]DaxivargaPandora 120 points121 points  (23 children)

Depends where they are lamo I don't want 110F concer at 2pm in Florida

[–]Fletch71011 34 points35 points  (2 children)

Shit, Lolla feels like that even in Chicago during the summer.

[–]yerbadoo 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Except for a few years ago when it was like 62 degrees at 3pm one of the days.

All the suburban girls getting off the Metra train at Union Station in bikini tops were super unimpressed lol

[–]oursecondcoming 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Exactly. For example EDC music festival in Las Vegas goes from sunset to sunrise because that shit is at the desert in the middle of summer.

[–]mountaingrrl_8 80 points81 points  (4 children)

I went to entire music festival the other weekend that was from 11-5ish. With full out rock concert. Mind you, it was a kids music festival, but it was a fantastic time especially since all the adults were wide awake. Late concerts just aren't a thing for me these days.

[–]LiberacesWraith 565 points566 points  (36 children)

I saw Black Flag at like 3 pm outdoors and I gotta tell you it was kinda weird.

[–]hreiedv 197 points198 points  (9 children)

Somewhere, in the grand canyon that divides the music of Black Flag and Coldplay there is a cutoff point

[–]Shiba_Ichigo 2860 points2861 points  (355 children)

I think most of us just want to be able to go to a concert at all, without taking out a 2nd mortgage.

Are we ever gonna do anything about the ridiculously blatant and illegal abuses of ticketmaster?

[–]-Unnamed- 822 points823 points  (41 children)

Look at this guy. Flexing his first mortgage

[–]Shiba_Ichigo 135 points136 points  (34 children)

Lmao, no, I rent from a slumlord. I think I got her number though because I can prove she's been intentionally letting the AC unit here leak out old freon rather than fix or replace it.

[–]Jesus_was_a_Panda 17 points18 points  (0 children)

“Jokes on her, I like the chemical exposure!”

[–]BtheChemist 214 points215 points  (19 children)

Uh no. They bribe our reps with Lobbying money to not enforce the laws that already exist, good luck getting them to make more to not enforce.

[–]Shiba_Ichigo 78 points79 points  (15 children)

I'm not even asking for new laws. Like you said, there's already laws for this on the books. I am blown away how often our government has this "rules for thee, not for me" attitude and why the fuck are we reelecting them?

[–]C_Colin 130 points131 points  (29 children)

Support your local music scene!

[–]ProfSkullington 52 points53 points  (23 children)

For real, most shows I go to are $20 and they’re way better than an overpriced arena show featuring bored millionaires. Go see people you haven’t already heard of!

[–]trippingWetwNoTowel 146 points147 points  (17 children)

no? Have you seen the other problems this country is willing to ignore

[–]Shiba_Ichigo 128 points129 points  (13 children)

I guess we should fix the railroads first. Or do something about price gouging in more essential industries. Or do something about healthcare. Or police violence. Or civil rights in the south east.

Everything sucks and I can't even go to a show and forget it for a while.

[–]trippingWetwNoTowel 34 points35 points  (5 children)

you can go to a show as long as you pay the ticketmaster tax my friend!

but seriously you nailed it

[–]Shiba_Ichigo 13 points14 points  (4 children)

They should legally be in jail already for what they're doing. If you go to a venue and do it in person you get arrested, so why the fuck can they do it all out in the open?

[–]Iohet 51 points52 points  (11 children)

Big bands are always going to have big ticket prices, regardless of ticketmaster. They don't play enough shows to satisfy demand. Millions of people want to see their shows but there aren't millions of tickets. Smaller and midsize bands are mostly affordable.

[–]shifty313 22 points23 points  (7 children)

Literally doesn't matter, this is pure supply and demand. Either random people get tickets cheap out of the goodness of their heart or people will have to compete to see extremely popular artist.

[–][deleted] 2377 points2378 points  (218 children)

When you’re 60 and a band you want to see is playing at 10pm😴

[–]BtheChemist 1746 points1747 points  (103 children)

When you're 35 and the band starts at 10pm...

Bruh my bedtime is like 930.

[–]Randaroo82 322 points323 points  (34 children)

Same, I'm 40 and start work at 630 am (after commuting an hour) so I'm bed before 9pm almost every night, and even that is too late to get a full 8 hours!

[–]bigted41 158 points159 points  (23 children)

I used to be you, now I work from home and wake up 5 minutes before my shift

[–]Randaroo82 76 points77 points  (6 children)

I wfh some days but changing my bedtime schedule to fit one or the other really fucks with my sleep schedule so I just get up every morning like I'm driving an hour, even if I'm wfh that day.

[–]vp3d 43 points44 points  (12 children)

I'm 53 and going to a David Bowie tribute that starts at 8, an hour and a half from home. Gonna have to double up on my Geritol for that drive home.

[–]kryonik 38 points39 points  (6 children)

I'm 39 and if I'm driving to an evening show 90 minutes away, I'm finding a cheap motel to crash after.

[–]vp3d 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Yeah, unfortunately where I'm going to there are no cheap hotels anywhere near the venue. Downtown St. Pete. Looking at $500 a night for the cheapest place that's close enough. Closest cheap place would be half way home and might as well drive the extra 45 minutes.

[–]ohdearsweetlord 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Or when you work early in the morning

[–]coldforged 38 points39 points  (11 children)

I got tickets to see The Crystal Method a couple of years ago when I was damned near 50, showtime 9PM. We got there, they had like 3 opening acts. Then we heard that they were delayed somehow. We bailed at about 11:30. From Facebook posts they showed up at about 12:30. There's no one alive I'd stay up until after midnight to see.

[–]FullCrisisMode 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Lol. 4 acts starting at 9pm with The Crystal Method headlining sounds more like a rave type event.

I would have expected about 1am because that's pretty standard for those acts.

[–]pmyourcoffeemug 420 points421 points  (95 children)

I like the thought until you realize no show outside would have a light show at 1PM and load in would be awfully early for techs. A show on the scale of Coldplay loads in at 7-10AM for 7PM doors

[–]SoundAdvisorGoogle Music 163 points164 points  (10 children)

As a tech, I concur.

My response was "so load in moves up to 2am? Good luck with getting crew."

[–]davasaur 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I can hear the stagehands griping.

[–]gigawort 30 points31 points  (3 children)

What about artists that command multi-day shows in big cities? Couldn't you stick a matinee show in between?

[–]IrishPigs 67 points68 points  (2 children)

Yeah it's a nice thought when you ignore the complications of touring logistics.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

And also that for a lot of the year a 1pm concert is miserable weather. Having to chug water so you don't die of heat stroke is one of the main reasons I stopped going to festivals.

[–]Flegrant 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Pre rigs the day before would be much more commonplace.

My arena and the other riggers I work with are always setting tour records but anything more than 60 points would get moved to the day before, even with how fast we pull points.

This kind of change would up-end a ton of logistics

[–]WorldsWeakestMan 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Yeah, am I gonna see Rammstein at 1pm? No. I want FIRE!!!

[–]The_Bitter_Bear 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yup, no light show and that schedule would be terrible. Particularly if the venue is a busy one or the band has a packed schedule.

[–]Prophage7 1290 points1291 points  (125 children)

That's fair, considering the only people that can afford tickets these days probably don't have to work during the day...

[–]SometimesWill 178 points179 points  (43 children)

One of the reasons I’m glad to be into heavier music. Most shows are $30-$60 all standing room only.

[–]Condawg 84 points85 points  (19 children)

I'm into decidedly not heavier music, and get tickets around that price too. Just saw Cory Wong a couple weeks ago, seeing my friend's coworker's reggae band this weekend (Sensamotion), and Theo Katzman in a couple months.

There's lots of cheaper live music, but if you're into Taylor Swift you're gonna pay Taylor Swift prices. (I don't know what else is popular music these days, no Swift shade intended.)

[–]SometimesWill 34 points35 points  (6 children)

Yeah pretty much anything that isn’t a stadium tour isn’t actually that bad for pricing. With fall out boy I just got a lawn ticket to see them for $60 after fees.

Unfortunately resales can get out of hand no matter what if a concert sells out which I blame Ticketmaster for more than artists. Resales shouldn’t be allowed for a higher price than what they were bought at on the same platform.

[–]AFlockOfTySegalls 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Yes. Most of the shows I buy tickets for are under 50 dollars because they're predominantly metal. Even big bands like Testament aren't expensive.

Hell, my ticket to Obituary, Immolation and Blood Incantation was 22 dollars before fees lol.

[–]afterdarkdingo 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I would gladly pay three times that for blood incantation alone. Best show I ever saw was Dillinger Escape Plan and a couple others for 16 bucks, just wild that people pay so much to see Beyonce through binoculars.

[–]blindspot189 13.1k points13.1k points  (616 children)

How about instead of 1 pm we get to afford the tickets and you know not have them sold out in seconds to scalpers

Edit holy crap my first gold comment thank you

[–]malgadar 2110 points2111 points  (445 children)

I remember back when you could afford tickets and they were actually available.

Ah the good ol' days

[–]WayneKrane 841 points842 points  (252 children)

I remember being able to stand in line for $11-20 tickets and you could be fairly close to the front. Now nosebleed seats are a small fortune.

[–]gitarzan 463 points464 points  (153 children)

Back in the 70's Concerts were typically $4.50 to $5.50. I remember when they raised the price to $7.99 I was outraged and quit going to them for a while.

A few years later the Eagles reunited (the first reunion tour) and they charged $40 for cheap seats... I thought they were insane, but they sold out. Prices went sky high after that.

[–]VIPERsssss 96 points97 points  (52 children)

Yeah, I remember that too. Everyone was shocked at how expensive they were and then suddenly every A-List concert was charging outrageous prices.

[–]broke_af_guy 89 points90 points  (48 children)

Punk shows are still affordable. A few years back I saw Anti Flag and 3 other bands for $10. Was an album release show and got a CD with it.

[–]fisticuffsmanship 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I remember a few months later Jimmy Page and Robert Plant went on tour after Unledded and tickets were like TSwift levels of insanely expensive back in '94.

[–]CharlieChowderButt 377 points378 points  (30 children)

Yep, the fucking Eagles. That figures. Assholes.

[–]GiorgioTsoukalosHair 304 points305 points  (27 children)

I hate the Eagles, man.

[–]GitchigumiMiguel74 145 points146 points  (7 children)

Get out of my cab

[–]NateBlaze 43 points44 points  (4 children)

This aggression will not stand!

[–]Cosmicrocosm 11 points12 points  (3 children)

I got a rash, man.

[–]Mayafoe 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Do you see what happens Larry?

[–][deleted] 67 points68 points  (11 children)

I have to listen to the Eagles because my Creedence tapes got stolen man.

[–]Schidthawk 37 points38 points  (5 children)

I'm sure you'll get them back. They got four more detectives on the case. Got them working in shifts.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Haha I loved that cop.

[–]MidichlorianAddict 22 points23 points  (1 child)

You’re out of your element Dude

[–]BrownShadow 14 points15 points  (8 children)

My girlfriend got me two tickets to see Bob Dylan years ago. (For my birthday) Two tickets, I believe she paid almost $500. Good tickets but man that’s too much for a rock show.

[–]whalesauce 53 points54 points  (10 children)

This is part of the reason I respect someone like Garth Brooks, I don't love his music. My wife certainly does.

As a result, I have seen a few of his shows now. 3 to be exact. The Vegas show, and 2 of his shows in western Canada.

Those tickets, exception of Vegas show. All general admission and assigned seating that was randomly assigned upon purchase. You buy the tickets they were attached to my CC and couldn't be transferred or sold easily. It was the Ticketmaster secured transfer bullshit.

Anyways, your $50 CDN got you anywhere from nose bleeds to the front row. But together guaranteed. So if you bought the max of 10 tickets they were together.

That was true in Rogers place and whatever the arena in Saskatoon is called in Saskatchewan.

Fun story about the Sask show: it just so happened to coincide on the day Hockey Legend Gordie Howe died. He was a Sask boy and the road leading to the arena is Gordie Howe drive or similar. ( I'm not fron there)

So im in the beer line, I get my libations and turn around to wait for my wife to finish in the bathroom. I lean against a wall holding the beers. This old man, 70+ years old with tears running down his cheeks asked me if I thought Garth would come out in a Gordie jersey and how much that would mean to him.

I placated the old man and just said, ya man,.I hope so to.

But I thought to myself. Of course he's going to. He was going to even if Gordie hadn't died. Maybe it wasn't going to be a red win jersey but the junior hockey team that's locals jersey instead. It's standard concert shit, like when they play in Edmonton. They will wear and oilers jersey and say Calgary sucks. Then tomorow night do the opposite in Calgary.

But this old guy, he wasn't in the know on that I suppose. And he must have thought it was sincere.

Garth did in fact come out in that Jersey, made a few remarks about his significance to the city and to Canadians and to hockey. Admitted he didn't know much about the man or the sport but admired his impact on the community. Moment of silence and he hit the stage.

One fuck of a performer.

[–]JBLurker 6 points7 points  (4 children)

He also usually does multiple shows in the same city which lowers prices.. not all acts do this.

[–]jobbybob 11 points12 points  (6 children)

For reference $4.50 in 1970 is about $35 dollars today.

[–]2ferretsinasock 42 points43 points  (11 children)

It's weird. The most I've ever spent for a show was$550 to take my wife, myself and my mom to see Tool. I mean, I love Tool and all, but I never would have spent that if it wasn't for the fact my mom's health is trash and it wasn't a Christmas gift.

The following show was freaks in parade, I took my wife and mom again, plus my sister and my daughter (first concert) plus bought merch, food and booze. Probably spent $400 for tickets and everything else all together.

Tool show was just the show and water. Bought your merch a month later online.

I miss warped tour. Spend $35 which was WILD too 14 year old me and got to die in the Florida swamp heat for an entire day with a fuck load of bands

[–]anthr0x1028 19 points20 points  (6 children)

I grew up in the West Palm Beach area in the mid 90's. The local alt rock station (103.1 The Buzz) would put on a concert featuring some of the hottest bands on their station.They called it the Buzz Bakesale, and it became an annual tradition. Bands like The Mighty Mighty Bosstones and Green Day in the earlier days to bands like Korn and Deftones later on. When they started doing shows in 96 the ticket was $13 and you could buy it direct from the box office to avoid fees. The station switched formats in 2012, i still think tickets were only like $55 with fees for sitting in the lawn area of the amphitheater.

[–]Deadwing2022 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Back in '81 I stood in line to buy a ticket for $12 to see Black Sabbath w/Exciter (Mob Rules tour) and we were right at the front of the stage. I still have the stub and all the other ticket stubs I bought since then in a photo album. Too bad tickets are a thing of the past now and everything is digital on your phone.

[–]tomservo88Spotify 68 points69 points  (65 children)

Still a lot regardless, but explain to me why a ticket in my town for Stevie Nicks is $275, but the same seat (more or less) for Depeche Mode is $450.

[–]Loud-Path 50 points51 points  (9 children)

That's nothing. Went to an Evanescence/Muse concert in Houston last week. Houston is four hours further away from us than Ft Worth (where they were the next night) but we ended up driving the extra four hours because the Toyota center ticketing is run by AXS while the site in Ft Worth is run by Ticketmaster. End result, SRO tickets in front of the stage in Houston were under $100 each (our total cost was like $196 with service fees and all for two tickets), while the same tickets in Dallas were over $300 each before service fees. Luckily we have relatives in Houston so we just make it a vacation to visit them. But it is insane that driving twice as far to a slightly bigger city results in far cheaper seats just because of who handles the ticketing. Even if we had had to have a hotel room it still would have been cheaper overall than the tickets alone for Dallas (about $200 plus a hundred or so for a hotel room, vs. over $600 when you figure in service fees for Dallas).

[–]ThePhoneBook 82 points83 points  (43 children)

Because old.men have more.disposable income

[–]CryoClone 88 points89 points  (28 children)

On the subject of old men with money, I got talking to a guy in line for Paul McCartney. He and his wife never got to see the Beatles and they were him and his wife's favorite band. So, he "splurged" to be front row center.

This man, this insane man, paid something like $12-15k per ticket for him and his wife to sit front row center. So, yeah, rich old men have more money for concerts.

I thought the $65 for nosebleeds was insane. But I also thought I want to see McCartney before he stops touring. I missed Rush and Tom Petty, I have concert FOMO now, but I'm also not completely insane.

[–]halpinator 81 points82 points  (5 children)

Don't worry, in 30 years they'll be dead and you'll be able to blow $20k for front row tickets to see Post Malone and all the gen alphas will be jealous.

[–]LoneStarG84 9 points10 points  (0 children)

By then he'll have so many tattoos he'll be invisible to the naked eye.

[–]welchplug 34 points35 points  (12 children)

Old men like Stevie Nicks more tho.

[–]vhw_ 19 points20 points  (4 children)

It's 225 for Dave and 225 for Martin, you're getting a better price when you think about it

[–]blindspot189 15 points16 points  (3 children)

When i was little i got see queen play i was only like 4 but can imagine what Freddie mercury lead queen tickets would cost now

[–]elgatomalo1 303 points304 points  (21 children)

By scalpers you mean ticket master themselves?

[–]blindspot189 94 points95 points  (13 children)

Your not wrong if i remember right all the company's that resell tickets are owned by ticketmaster

[–]MrWilsonWalluby 100 points101 points  (7 children)

Yup Ticketmaster basically monopolized an entire industry as quietly as it could and before anyone realized they were a complete monopoly that can extort venues artists and customers alike with their money so deep in politicians pockets the FTC can’t even whiff in their direction without getting defunded again.

[–]Boz0r 36 points37 points  (8 children)

In Denmark it's illegal to resell events tickets for more than the sales price.

[–]SmrterThanYou 9 points10 points  (0 children)

22 of 50 states in the US have laws against this, but even in those states it isn't enforced uniformly, if at all.

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (3 children)

Okay, but that's an entirely different conversation than what we're talking about

You're just bringing it up for no reason for easy karma points

[–]TaylorMonkey 99 points100 points  (15 children)

But now you can get scalped AND be forced to take time off work, because rich person doesn’t understand regular jobs and why things happen at night.

[–]sohou 57 points58 points  (5 children)

The venue is 2 hours away and with traffic, it'll be 3am by the time I get home. I'm already taking my next day off either way.

[–]BrockThrowaway 29 points30 points  (1 child)

I mean I think she means weekends but let’s not forget people work in the evenings too.

[–]saegiru 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Not all jobs are 9-5 and plenty of people work evenings and overnights. Many people don't go to work the day after going to a concert anyway because they go so late, so I don't see the problem with the idea.

[–]hxgmmgxh 372 points373 points  (22 children)

Famous person said a thing.

Is this the same as “…leading the charge”?

[–]CalifaDaze 157 points158 points  (4 children)

And then you read the article and it's just some off hand comment she made to a reporter. The headline makes it seem like she's outside of Ticketmaster Headquarters with a picket sign

[–]RedSteadEd 43 points44 points  (2 children)

I'm so fucking tired of "news" articles about what somebody said.

[–]DogmaticCat 114 points115 points  (2 children)

"And I want Activia sold in every venue!"

[–]bkupron 4115 points4116 points  (468 children)

Obviously, she is rich and doesn't work during the day.

[–]orangeloungeman 1409 points1410 points  (198 children)

I'd take the day off to go and see a concert in the afternoon. At my age, this is a great idea.

[–]kanst 789 points790 points  (135 children)

I'm 100% with her on this issue. It's brutal when the opener isn't even coming on until after 8pm. I don't want to be out until 1 am just to see a concert.

I have this same complaint with TV shows, everything needs to be earlier. Starting an event at 10pm is absurd.

[–]nerdgirl37 26 points27 points  (6 children)

I went to see Garth Brooks last spring and ended up not getting home until after 1, then had to be at work at 6:30. It made for a very long day.

[–]RainbowAssFucker 13 points14 points  (0 children)

If tomorrow never comes, I fucking hope so as I have to work in 5 hours

[–]mysterymeat69 387 points388 points  (90 children)

I never felt as old as I did when took my daughter to see Gaga last year. Concert was schedule to “start” at 7:30pm. That’s reasonable. Figure it would start fashionably late and get underway by 8ish, run 90min and we’d be on our way home by 10:30. Quite civilized….

Bitch didn’t even take the stage until 10:45pm…wtf?! Sat there for over 3hr waiting for the show to start. By the time it started, I was hoping she’d play two songs and then call it a night. Great concert and the daughter was thrilled, but come on, starting 3+ hours late…that’s stupid.

[–]B2Dirty 178 points179 points  (10 children)

Gotta make the attendees bored so they buy more drinks and merch.

[–]kippypapa 15 points16 points  (9 children)

Morrissey did this when I went to see him a few months ago. The merch line was really long and he waited to go on stage until people bought everything.

[–]BaconPancakes1 138 points139 points  (29 children)

What, no opening acts? You just sat there til 10.45? I expect artists to start an hour or two late every time, but only because I am used to an hour-ish of a support & then half an hour of changing sets and stuff. When artists just show up over 2 hours late and waste thousands of people's time, in addition to charging them hundreds per ticket, it's pretty offensive. If it was a stadium tour and there were (say) 10,000 people, at 3.5 hours late she wasted a collective ~4 years of her audience's time.

Edit - apparently there were technical issues and she wasn't just late for no reason - therefore not rudeness or entitlement in this case

[–]mysterymeat69 74 points75 points  (27 children)

It was a stadium tour, easily 30k in attendance, so your number is light.

In fairness, it was a hell of a show, but 3hr was excessive IMO. It really put a dent in my enjoyment of the show overall. Which is a real shame. Hell of a performer, and it was the second time I’d taken a daughter (took my oldest to one of her first tours), but I just don’t think I could subject myself to that again.

[–]BadMoonRosin 32 points33 points  (7 children)

Jesus. Back in the day, Guns N Roses would go on three hours late, and it was a legendary part of their image of being strung-out junkies. At least they had drugs for an excuse! What possible reason is there for a sober performer to go on 3 hours late in the 2020's?

[–]mysterymeat69 39 points40 points  (2 children)

Funny that you mention GnR, about 2.5hr into the wait I was thinking to myself “fuck, I didn’t even wait this long in the early 90’s when GnR and Metallica toured together.”

[–]flyboy_za 8 points9 points  (0 children)

We have a noise ordinance here in Cape Town, volume has to go down at midnight. Typically the headline band hits the stage at 9pm latest or they have to cut the show short because the stadium will turn off the music and turn on the lights at midnight.

Foo Fighters came out at 9pm dead (kaiser chiefs opened for them) and played till 11.59. Metallica did 8.30 to 11.30 both times they were here. U2 was 8 till 11 first time on the Popmart tour and probably 8.30 to 11.30 on 360. Michael Jackson made us wait, I want to say support bands were gone by 7.30 and he only came out at 9, so it was a long haul back in 1997 when he was here. Aha only did 9pm to 10.25, bit of a swizz that one.

I believe Bieber was late, only came out at 10 and annoyed the parents who had their teens there because he had Johannesburg on Saturday so Cape Town had Wednesday night (fairly common for us to get the weeknight gig and joburg the weekend) so they likely didn't get a full show. If memory serves I think Gaga also came out late - I didn't go to either of them so I heard from colleagues. No way I'd be happy with waiting for 10.45 though, that's bullshit.

[–]dhalem 370 points371 points  (62 children)

Getting home at 1 or 2am and coming down from a concert before having to get up and go to work the next day isn’t fun either.

[–]JACrazy 95 points96 points  (20 children)

Cant we just meet halfway and do 5 or 6pm concerts that start after work hours but end by 9 or 10?

[–]FaithIsFoolish 230 points231 points  (51 children)

You think she's really talking about 1 PM on a Tuesday?

[–][deleted] 58 points59 points  (12 children)

A lot of poor people work evenings or nights :/ like not everyone works 9-5 lol

[–]nygdan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

TIL only rich people get time off from work

[–]Frogs4 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Getting back from a gig at 1am seriously impacts how effective you are at work the 'next' day at my age. Even starting at 5 or 6 pm instead of 8 or 9 would be better.

[–]burning_panda_ 295 points296 points  (62 children)

Isn't that what a festival is?

[–]SubterraneanSmoothie 240 points241 points  (48 children)

Even at festivals, generally the headliners play last

[–]mikeldmv 79 points80 points  (1 child)

Got that Paul Rudd energy from Role Models and I love it: “no, no, see, I wanna rock n roll all night, and part of everyday.”

I mean, it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world if there were a few more daytime show options for people. 9-5 isn’t the only schedule for working class people and it would be nice for those that are stuck in night jobs. Also, mental health being what it is nowadays, a lot of people are more anxious than ever about going to crowded shows at night and this could probably offer a more chill environment. Not that it’s stopping me from seeing shows, but there have been some high-profile tragedies at shows in recent years. Maybe they’ve been more festivals so it’s not as relevant… I’m not exactly sure which timeline I’m posting this in tbf.

But I feel like some artists might even be happy to do an afternoon and an evening show when they’re really hungry enough or looking to make more money/reach more fans. Ofc I’ve never played any gigs so I can’t presume to know exactly how taxing that is when you are already traveling and touring. But for everyone that tells me it’s too much, there are always going to be proud people like Howlin’ Wolf who are relentlessly dedicated

Anyways, it’s a non-story overall. Just some thoughts on the topic.

[–]5tyhnmik 276 points277 points  (48 children)

Speaking on behalf of nearly every band that's ever gone on tour:

"no"

earlier is probably fine, like 6pm instead of 9pm, but fuck 1pm lmao

[–]TurdPartyCandidate 94 points95 points  (33 children)

For real. Starting at 6 would be phenomenal. Most people wouldn't have to take off work and you'd still be able to get home early. It's even worse at smaller venues. I've gone on stage at 12:45 AM before. It fucking sucked for everyone. Us. The audience. The people working. I don't know why they do it.

[–]grubas 44 points45 points  (15 children)

Anybody who has ever held the glorious 1am slot at a bar or club knows how much it sucks.

[–]Sirsilentbob423 31 points32 points  (12 children)

Sometimes (VERY rarely) it works out for everyone. I distinctly remember one show we did a few years ago where we were finishing our set at about 1:30, right as a massive wedding party showed up. They got upset that it was out last song and collected about $600 between them to convince us to play more, so we started the set from the top and just went again. It was exhausting, but they were into it and that made all the difference.

99% of shows I've played that late though we're either for literally no one other than bar staff, or for the other bands that were kind enough to stick around (many don't).

[–]MrPoopieMcCuckface 7 points8 points  (8 children)

I always wonder how you get past that stage of being a band playing to no one. Sounds very depressing.

[–]Sirsilentbob423 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I've played for 10,000 and I've played for literally the employees. Playing for no one is so fuckin disheartening, but at the same time it's important to realize especially early on that no one knows who you are.

Make contacts, be the most charismatic mother fucker in the room & make people pay attention, and always play like you're entertaining a packed house regardless of if it's 1 person watching or 1,000. You never know who that one person is.

Most importantly from my perspective, is to have a plan. You cant just rely on your friends to show up and support (most of the time they don't). You've gotta have a step by step list of attainable goals to reach and come up with reasons to get butts in seats. Utilize social media, put your stuff out there, and be prepared to fail cause honestly if you look at a lot of these bigger artists a ton of the "self-made" people knew the right people or had family that works in the industry to help get that foot in the door. For everyone else it's a fuckin grind.

For me, I spent at least 15 hours a week online searching venues, making contacts with other bands that had similar sounds, etc on top of practice and performances.

[–]TranslatesToScottish 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's something I always find frustrating as my city tends to get the midweek shows from tours and although matinees would obviously be daft in that scenario, starting at 9 and finishing at 11 is often a nightmare for transport home and for work the next day. No reason things couldn't start an hour or two earlier.

[–]shutz2 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Pretty soon, only old people will be able to afford concert tickets, anyway...

[–]CouchHam 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Yo she forgot the rest of us are working at 1pm. Whoops.

[–]TacoTymeTaxi 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I feel like this would be widely unpopular. I don’t think anyone under the age of 35 is asking for this and that’s the primary demographic of concert goers….

[–]rebri 7 points8 points  (0 children)

r/Boomer would love this.

[–]Exadory 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Yeah but for bands with an awesome lighting rig like phish. I don’t want it during the day. Unless it’s indoors.

[–]prw8201 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Sonds great for indoor concerts! Out doors during the summer would suck for the preformers. Heat of the day then add the lighting....

[–]ItsHowWellYouMowFast 623 points624 points  (64 children)

Personally I don't want to listen to Coldplay at any hour

e: if you like Coldplay, I dont give a shit. It's not to my taste thus the comment led with "Personally"

[–]MrCoe10 158 points159 points  (16 children)

"People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people" - Super Hans

[–]theother_eriatarka 42 points43 points  (9 children)

fine, get your coldplay at 1pm, i'm fine wih my death metal at midnight