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[–]thesnarkypotatohead 215 points216 points  (8 children)

The outfit in photo 3 just works for me on every level. It's so simple, but just... yes. They looked good together. It seemed real enough, especially on his end - but to your point about how they looked at each other, rebounds tend to be pretty intense in my experience. In photos I looked completely in love with my only real rebound (haven't had that many serious relationships) and I even thought I was in love. Then the infatuation goggles came off and I realized I never had been. No idea what was happening between these two, that was just my personal experience.

Not specific to this relationship obv but I will never stop being wild to me how fast she buddies up to the relatives of her brand new partners. To each their own I suppose.

[–]girlbossinred 649 points650 points  (12 children)

oh hiddleswift, the old money country club power couple that you were

[–]Julialagulia 95 points96 points  (5 children)

Mixed in with some high theater kid energy. I was entertained.

[–]FatnessEverdeen34 48 points49 points  (0 children)

We used to be a proper country

[–]squeakyfromage 36 points37 points  (1 child)

I loved her style during this brief interlude lol

[–]Crafty_Method_8351 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It was like a matured version of her Red style which felt more like cosplay at the time.

[–]BookishCutieNobody physically saw me for a year ✨ 9 points10 points  (2 children)

That was one of the attempts to get to that old money aesthetic .

[–]Vvsmydimonds 1 point2 points  (1 child)

She had already tried that before with the kennedys innit??

[–]folkloremore1313[S] 370 points371 points  (12 children)

[–]Careless-Plane-591515,000 little bastard rubber ducks 🐤 127 points128 points  (1 child)

I think it was a messy whirlwind thing but they look great together in this photo 🥵 he’s a lovely man and I’m glad he’s in a good place now.

[–]StanzaSnark 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that photo of them straight up looks like a romance novel cover

[–]WallowerForever 450 points451 points  (8 children)

Ryan looks so dead inside taking part as a prop in this Taylor photo op.

[–]saivoide 174 points175 points  (1 child)

It looks like it, but Ryan and Blake are such close friends with Taylor for a reason. He's just as much of a capitalist queen as she is.

I've said it before, it's a mutually beneficial relationship for this species of bourgeois.

[–]unkindernutWas it electric? 40 points41 points  (2 children)

To be fair, Ryan looks dead inside a lot. I think that just might be his resting expression.

[–]BareKnuckleKitty 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I don’t know why but I hope my resting expression is “dead inside”.

[–]StartapartybartyTortured Billionaire 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Blake 100% is telling him something and he’s trying not to laugh during the photo op. I’d bet my life on it, you can just tell they’re having an aside moment lol. She’s saying something funny in his ear for sure based off her face too

[–]how_about_no_hellion 26 points27 points  (0 children)

What about that grip Tom has on the wine glass?

[–]catwomoonz 296 points297 points  (40 children)

I love Tom, he's a great guy. But if It was not PR, he seemed more in love for her than Taylor for him

[–]TacoBelle- 217 points218 points  (18 children)

I think it can be real and for PR, similar to the Travis relationship. She “picked” him for good PR, the rollout of the relationship (the rock photos with Tom, going to the first game for Travis + riding off into the sunset after) are absolutely part of a PR strategy but the feelings are real.

I don’t think Taylor will ever have another relationship that isn’t for PR in some capacity. If Matty didn’t get such bad reactions from everyone she would probably still be with him but she dropped him so fast I feel like its proof she doesn’t date exclusively based on her romantic feelings.

[–]dreamsofaninsomniac 61 points62 points  (3 children)

I don’t think Taylor will ever have another relationship that isn’t for PR in some capacity. If Matty didn’t get such bad reactions from everyone she would probably still be with him but she dropped him so fast I feel like its proof she doesn’t date exclusively based on her romantic feelings.

When you're as famous as her, it always has to be a consideration. It can actively hurt you as a brand and that starts to affect your business.

[–]folkloremore1313[S] 58 points59 points  (18 children)

I don't think it was pr and yeah he definitely was in love

[–]Special-Garlic1203 205 points206 points  (17 children)

I don't think it was PR for him. I forget what exactly he said, but he's subtly indicated that it was a pretty hard learning experiencing for him

This is the event that shifted my perception of Taylor. I just could never shake how flippantly she used him and then tossed him aside when she saw the opportunity to upgrade to a different brit. 

[–]melh22 63 points64 points  (0 children)

Exactly why I see her doing the same thing to Travis.

[–]KhalCheeto 47 points48 points  (5 children)

And then made fun of him with Getaway Car.

[–]Jane_Marie_CA 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Yah I can't stand the song because of what it really means. She played Tom and then laughed about it. I'd like to think Midnight Rain is her self realization over it.

If it had a been a more low key summer fling, I'd be on board. But they were meeting each others parents, traveling the world together. No way she was completely honest with Tom.

[–]Sea-Contract-447 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Its grinds my gears when people use that song as an example of her taking accountability. The lyrics are so victim-blamey

[–]KhalCheeto 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Yes, i cheated and used you, but you should have known it was going to happen lol" Accountability, suuuuuure.

[–]imakemyclothes 21 points22 points  (3 children)

Joe is def not an upgrade over Tom except maybe in intangible chemistry ways, though...

[–]Grand_Dog915 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I mean, I personally find Joe more attractive than Tom so…

[–]mallymoopySwiftly Neutered 339 points340 points  (13 children)

Short lived relationship but my GOD they looked so good together. The video of them dancing at the Met Gala lives rent free in my head

[–]mallymoopySwiftly Neutered 225 points226 points  (8 children)

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They also started dating during Bleachella era. Truly an iconic time. Summer of 2016 was unmatched

[–]Throwaway500005 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was a Cruel Summer indeed.

[–]BareKnuckleKitty 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I know some people think this looked washed her out but I just love this hair with that lipstick. Makes me want to try a dark lip and then fail to pull it off.

[–]folkloremore1313[S] 72 points73 points  (0 children)

Ikr they looked so good together

[–]blossombear31Joe Alwyn Widow 99 points100 points  (1 child)

I was 14 when they started dating and it’s probably the only Taylor relationship I was invested in lmao I thought they were going to get married for some reason.

I think this is part of the reason why I feel second-hand embarrassment when I see grown-ass adults being obsessed with her and Travis lol

[–]ghostlykittenbutter 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Hahahaha this is amazing and I wish reddit still had awards. Here is my own janky award: 🍕

[–]assflea 150 points151 points  (16 children)

I was surprised this didn't last longer tbh. He was down BAD for her. 

[–]Elizabeth__Sparrow 59 points60 points  (10 children)

She might have left him for Joe 

[–]assflea 54 points55 points  (7 children)

That's how it seems and no offense but why lol

Tom is really good looking, was successful on the same level as her back then, clearly obsessed with her, did she just want a challenge?

[–]ghostlykittenbutter 128 points129 points  (5 children)

Tom was easily accessible and smitten

Joe was a deep brooding actor who kept her guessing

She prefers drama

[–]ecpella 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yep he was a healthy, mature, emotionally available partner so she said 👋

[–]virgosgr00ve 10 points11 points  (0 children)

she literally tells us exactly this in the way i loved you 😭

[–]Elizabeth__Sparrow 24 points25 points  (0 children)

We’ll never know. Maybe they weren’t compatible? Maybe she didn’t like it if it wasn’t a game? It seems to me like she may have been talking to Joe through much of their relationship. We know she met both him and Tom at the Met. And Joe was nowhere near a sure thing. Her music makes it sound like they may have just been casual for a while. 

[–]Go_Corgi_Fan84 6 points7 points  (0 children)

that is how it seemed at the time

[–]SadAbbreviations1299Hiddleswift Survivor 253 points254 points  (9 children)

i adored them, such a shame (to me) they didn't work out. tom seems like a super sweet person and he seemed very infatuated with her.

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[–]WDTHTDWA-BITCH 181 points182 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t have let him go if I were her cuz he’s an absolute dream. But I can see how they’re probably not compatible in the long run.

[–]Pearl0625 44 points45 points  (0 children)

what a cute photo!

[–]MadameNo9 61 points62 points  (2 children)

He was so down bad for her lol…I feel for him, I think they had different expectations and didn’t communicate about it because it was going to ruin how spontaneous and fun everything was

[–]catslugs 37 points38 points  (1 child)

Yesss, remember that interview he did not long after and they asked him about taylor and he got BIG sad, and something about bolognese? Lol i i’ll have to look it it up as a refresh

[–]AnE1Home 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I remember reading that exact article (I think it was for GQ) and seeing him try to skip past the question about her and thought, oh this was very real for him yikes.

[–]outofthxwoodswait til lover drops pls we cant lose sales 33 points34 points  (0 children)

in a world of boys he is a gentleman

[–]Honeycrisp31590 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Omg I’ve never seen this photo. This is CUTE. 

[–]altdultosaurs 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They were having fun but both love fame and attn. Tom was looking for more fame and more attn. he was hustling for that 007 hype.

[–]alittlebeachy 177 points178 points  (6 children)

That photo with his mother was absolutely unhinged. One thing about Taylor is she loves meeting the parents so quickly lol but Tavis gives Hiddleswift on steroids

[–]Moment_13 78 points79 points  (4 children)

Yes that's why I laughed so much at people saying "Tayvis is serious, she's met his mom" - we all remember Hiddleswift and the lightning speed with which she met his mum!

[–]JennPenn071 36 points37 points  (3 children)

Don't forget trying to buy the house next door (or was it down the street?) from the Kennedy's, after only dating that kid for like a month!

[–]outofthxwoodswait til lover drops pls we cant lose sales 18 points19 points  (0 children)

this has always been a question for me, whyyyy does she love meeting the parents even if she knows it's not gonna last? it's hard enough when you are actually in love hahaha

[–]eyebay 178 points179 points  (8 children)

She did him very very wrong, and it's insane how much her fans treat it like a joke but send Joe death threats.

[–]ParisFood 49 points50 points  (4 children)

What is with sending death threats to anyone. I swear if they had to use their real name online they would not do it. And really hope that if someone receives them they ask the authorities to investigate them and have them pay for the consequences of their actions.

[–]eyebay 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Right? It's insane. People are too comfortable behind a device. In my country there's an influencer who sued more than a 100 people online for false accusations. I love to see it!

[–]ParisFood 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Good for them! I wish people would clap back at them. It used to be the odd person. Now it appears to be a common occurrence that is considered ok.

[–]hnsnrachel 4 points5 points  (1 child)

My cousin got insane death threats once for suggesting in a gossip column in a newspaper that Zayn Malik didn't look happy in 1D anymore. He quit not all that much later, so she was right. Stans are nuts.

[–]Elizabeth__Sparrow 80 points81 points  (2 children)

Out of all her exes he looks the happiest to be with her. She looks happy too. I’m glad they didn’t end up together though because I think he deserves better. 

[–]eyebay 42 points43 points  (0 children)

I think it's very cute how he has his family now ♡

[–]Elizabeth__Sparrow 93 points94 points  (6 children)

I think Taylor just falls very quickly. Before Calvin none of her relationships had lasted longer than 4 or so months. Several were shorter than that. And yet with the way she writes you’d be forgiven for thinking she’s talking about the breakdown of a years long relationship. 

Two of the breakups that in my opinion had the greatest lasting impact on her were Harry and Jake. And not only were those very short lived but they were off and/or apart more than they were together. As for Tom I think he was just completely enchanted by her. They probably did have fun. 

[–]Damodara-EchoCancelled within an inch of my life 41 points42 points  (8 children)

I don't really understand the timeline of Calvin, Tom, and Joe.

Deep down I have a hard time believing her relationships are real, and not just PR. I know it's illogical of me, but I can't shake the feeling.

[–]Moment_13 43 points44 points  (5 children)

It's a mess. Very roughly:

6th March 2015 - Taylor begins dating Calvin (not publicly known at this point but the date was revealed on their 1 year anniversary)

11th March 2015 - Calvin says in a radio interview that Taylor is not his type and he would swipe left on Tinder

25th March 2015 - first pictures of Taylor and Calvin together, shopping at Whole Foods

In the months that follow, various pap shots and attending concerts/award shows together

October 2015 - Calvin is papped going into a "massage parlour" and tabloids start rumors that it was for sexual services

6th March 2016 - Calvin posts Snapchat stories of him and Taylor celebrating 1 year together by baking a cake, and he got her a necklace with the date they started dating

28th April 2016 - Gigi's birthday party, thought to be where Taylor met Joe (Joe was a plus one of a friend)

29th April 2016 - Calvin says in an interview that him and Taylor "haven't talked about" collaborating on music and he "can't see it happening". Possibly Taylor cheats with this night as it is also the date Taylor talks about in High Infidelity

2nd May 2016 - Met Gala. Joe attends as the plus one of friend. Taylor is videoed dancing with Tom Hiddleston

1st June 2016 - People reports Taylor and Calvin have split

15th June 2016 - The Sun posts the first pictures of Taylor and Tom kissing on the beach

20th June 2016 - Pop Crave speculated that Nils Sjoberg is actually Taylor

4th July 2016 - Taylor's annual 4th July party where Tom wore the I Heart TS top

13th July 2016 - Taylor's rep confirms to People that she is Sjoberg. Calvin tweets saying she was brilliant and it was her idea to use a pseudonym, and the iconic "Hurtful to me at this point that her and her team would go so far out of their way to try and make ME look bad at this stage though/I figure if you're happy in your new relationship you should focus on that instead of trying to tear your ex bf down for something to do/I know you're off tour and you need someone new to try and bury like Katy ETC but I'm not that guy, sorry. I won't allow it"

6th September 2016 - Taylor's rep confirms to People that she and Tom have split

28th September 2016 - date Taylor seems to refer to as the beginning of her and Joe's relationship (in the Lover diary and the cover of September)

16th May 2017 - The Sun posts the first pictures of Taylor and Joe together on her balcony

[–]Damodara-EchoCancelled within an inch of my life 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Wow, thank you!

Calvin saying Taylor isn't his type on the radio -- was it an inside joke between them, or is he a jerk?

[–]Moment_13 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Calvin and his ex (Aarika Wolf) broke up in February but the news only came out the day before that radio interview - I'm not sure if perhaps he was trying to not be linked to Taylor so soon after his breakup.

In the interview he is being shown pictures of female singers to ask if he'd swipe right for them - about Taylor he says "the thing is she's hot but she's not my type, she looks lovely but she's the opposite of my type so I would just swipe left".

[–]hummusisyummygoth punk moment of female rage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

[–]Grand_Dog915 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It’s still wild to me that her relationship with Calvin is her second longest. The pairing just seems so strange to me

[–]GimmeThemBabiesCan I put them on your head 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Wow I always thought Calvin and Taylor were together for much longer than less than 18 months

[–]ae-infinity 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i think it's plenty logical to not immediately believe what you see from a brand as big as taylor's

[–]godsavetheteen 81 points82 points  (1 child)

He’s like the best parts of all her other guys in one super attractive human 😭😭😭 Taylor fumbled 😭😭😭

[–]shadesofwrong13child of divorce 73 points74 points  (2 children)

She was at her best looking with him. I loved every outfit.

[–]Ratatoottooter 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I mean, rebounds can be super intense—when they are, they tend to collapse (in my experience) not because the feelings weren’t strong or real in the experiential sense, but because the relationship is founded on the thrill of being freed from a past relationship/being with a new person and/or to avoid to be on your own. That’s pretty shitty foundation for any relationship (see: Getaway Car) so they tend to collapse in pretty swift and spectacular fashion.

By the time the dust settles, you realize you didn’t really know the person, or were just projecting a lot of what you want on them, or any other number of things—but the key thing is was that it was real in the moment.

I see a lot of people on this sub complaining where Taylor takes a different position on the same people across albums, like we don’t all grow and change and outgrow relationships that don’t serve us/end up not speaking to the people we once swore we’d be togetha4eva with. She’s as prone to romantic folly as the rest of us; she just, unlike most of us, has (a) a music catalogue that serves as a pretty spectacular documentary record of her emotional history and (b) people who get attached to certain songs or albums and conflate their enjoyment of the art with her relationship, and feel like they’re being undercut when she moves on from it.

edits: spelling from a phone is hard :/

[–]ghostlykittenbutter 58 points59 points  (6 children)

At least he’s smiling and looks like he has a thought in his head

[–]astraetoiles 16 points17 points  (0 children)

“vivuuuuhhhh lawus vegAAAAAASSSSS” counts as a thought

[–]ilikecakewbu 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Taylor and Tom looked great together, but Tom/Zawe are a nerdy theatrical match in heaven and are an awesome couple.

[–]Jane_Marie_CA 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Tom/Zawe are a nerdy theatrical match

Agreed. This whole Summer of 2016 fiasco worked out better for Tom.

[–]caaathyx 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I don't usually 'ship' any celebrity couples but I remember really liking those two together. Tom Hiddleston is such a chill and fun guy! Plus Taylor has never looked or dressed better than during that short time with him.

[–]IMakeRedditComments 51 points52 points  (0 children)

I mean Taylor pretty much admitted it was just a rebound in getaway car.

Not saying it’s you doing this but I always get weird vibes when people reminisce about the Hiddleswift times. That man has a whole wife and kid now and people should just let him move on.

[–]sardonic_Two jets flying, flying 26 points27 points  (9 children)

If this relationship happened today ppl would be calling this shirt a humiliation ritual 😭💀

[–]ghostlykittenbutter 35 points36 points  (8 children)

People made fun of it back then. We were sick of her being EVERY WHERE and we just wanted her to go away for a little bit

The relationship got the side-eye from the world

[–]IMakeRedditComments 14 points15 points  (7 children)

Yeah at the time so many gross people were harassing Tom saying he was a clout chaser who was using the relationships PR to land the role as the next James Bond when it was rumoured they were looking for a replacement for Craig who then ended up not even quitting.

Unfortunately It was probably one of the worst relationships for Taylor in terms of the negative publicity it caused besides the Matty one from last year. Tom didn’t deserve the hate but people look back with rose tinted glasses and ignore how much hate they got when it happened.

[–]nerdlightening73[🍰] 89 points90 points  (1 child)

She did him so dirty and to this day is PROUD of it, which is really gross. This relationship was so awkward to me, since I really was a fan of Tom at the time. I completely sided with him in that divorce. She didn’t need an excuse to dump Calvin, she just wanted to be mean.

[–]eyebay 38 points39 points  (0 children)

It was one of the times that I actually didn't felt sorry when she received internet backlash, she deserved it.

[–]overlockk 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I would lock Loki up!! Lol

[–]epicvibe850 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I think it was real but she was holding out for Joe and left Tom for Joe

[–]disastrousbadday 8 points9 points  (0 children)

He could (and has since) do soooooooooo much better

[–]Quiet-Tumbleweed6268 19 points20 points  (0 children)

um wow, they look rlly good together 😭.

[–]mcchicken985 16 points17 points  (0 children)

At the time I thought it was a mutual fling (he was known for flings and being the 'other man' during the 2010s) that ended on an embarrassing note for Tom but the GQ magazine interview that came out makes me think it was very, very real for him. There were even rumors he was going to propose which... whew. Mess. I do think Midnight Rain might be about him, though. 

[–]KhalCheeto 15 points16 points  (1 child)

What was the point of meeting his mother if she knew she was just using him? Lol

[–]astraetoiles 11 points12 points  (0 children)

her commitment to the bit is unmatched

[–]ImSuperBisexual 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I will never forget waking up to the pap shots on the beach on tumblr and then the post breakup gq interview with him. He was so earnest and genuine about all of it and I’m so glad he has a family now

[–]ghostlykittenbutter 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Why does she feel the need to shove these relationships down our throats? It’s annoying.

There’s PR buzz, which is good for business. It creates a storyline & gets people talking. The key is to be a little mysterious & not vomit affection over every camera that crosses her path.

[–]Jadeheartxo12 19 points20 points  (5 children)

I feel like I’m alone in this opinion that they were both trolling the public with that “I ❤️ TS shirt” 🤷🏻‍♀️

[–]FireFlower-Bass-7716 31 points32 points  (3 children)

according to Tom, not trolling. He needed a shirt quick and someone grabbed it for him.

[–]ParisFood 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Yes he had a bad sunburn and did not want you to make it worse and asked for a t-shirt and someone threw that one at him and he just laughed and put it on

[–]Key_Tree9363 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I thought it was funny, I never understood the public reaction to that shirt 

[–]4evermore_nevermore 43 points44 points  (32 children)

I loved her with Tom. He seems like a down-to-earth, chill and fun guy. Even if he was a rebound, I would argue he was good for her. I think he was a better influence on her than Mr. Beer guzzling frat boy.

[–]Mindless_Bet_2826 12 points13 points  (23 children)

You try make it sound like Travis is some kind of unsuccessful alcoholic who has nothing going for him in life.

At the end of the day that man is a world class professional athlete who’s done a tonne of progressive activism and charity work for those in need.

[–]Aceygrey 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I mean absolutely no hate for Travis, and do not know his life or situation.

Plenty of successful and talented people have seriously abusive relationships with substances and other vices that do not affect their success because there is a team around them holding their shit together. That is a privilege of wealth.

Again, not saying that is what is happening with Travis, but something to keep in mind when looking at people with status.

[–]Mindless_Bet_2826 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I get what you are saying and of course you are right and can never really know when someone is dealing with substance abuse issues.

With that being said it’s near impossible for an NFL player to perform at a high level as an alcoholic, the NFL players who have suffered with alcoholism have failed at keeping up and have been cut from the league in quick fashion.

The body of an alcoholic would almost certainly not be able to absorb that level of punishment and perform at the level required to complete in the NFL as Travis does. He has been at the top of his game for over a decade and has shown no signs of alcoholism or substance abuse affecting his performance.

Side note: I do a lot of research on this kind of stuff for my job and the main substances abused by NFL players and hockey players are actually painkillers because of how injury prone the sports are. They get prescribed and then get addicted.

[–]4evermore_nevermore 12 points13 points  (9 children)

I am not arguing he isn't successful in his own right. I am arguing that some of his behavior needs to be scrutinized and he shouldn't be held on this pedestal of the perfect guy.

Obviously, I am very glad he is an active activist of vaccines and knelt in solidarity with black football players back in 2020. However, his recent "like" of post with Donald Trump in it may call some of that into question.

Remember when all his misogynistic, fat-shaming and ableist tweets resurfaced?

https://thetab.com/uk/2023/11/17/fans-are-calling-out-travis-kelce-for-his-problematic-sexist-and-ableist-old-tweets-338169

At one point he also referred to women as "breeders." https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/travis-kelce-breeders-taylor-swift-romance-b1117061.html#:~:text=%E2%80%9CI've%20gotta%20start%20breeding,mom%20can%20love%20me%20again.%E2%80%9D

The Andy Reid Incident - yes I know he owned up to it and said he "crossed the line," but a physical outburst of anger is very concerning. You are a 34-year-old man who is 6' 5" and 250 lbs; you can seriously injure someone. It was terrifying to see him do that to his "boss" on national television.

Continuing to party after a mass shooting occured - I know it was a pre-planned event but it was very insensitive and in poor taste.

https://www.thelist.com/1521876/travis-kelce-moments-fans-cant-forget/

And then recently liking a post with Trump.

Taylor has admitted and eluded to her struggle with alcohol and I think being around a major partier like Travis (who is guzzling beers on a graduation stage) isn't good for her.

Nobody is perfect but he is not some prince charming.

[–]IMakeRedditComments 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Continuing to party after a mass shooting occured - I know it was a pre-planned event but it was very insensitive and in poor taste.

So many of the things you’ve listed are simply untrue but do you not feel it’s gross to say something like this when you weren’t actually at the shooting yourself?

He went to dinner with his teammates and their wives who were all present at the horrific shooting. You presented it as if he went clubbing after a shooting which didn’t happen.

[–]Go_Corgi_Fan84 6 points7 points  (3 children)

It seemed more like a planned partial team/family event like a night out partying at a club.

What did he like about Trump? Has he historically liked these things? Based on the highlight reel that was his old tweets I'm sure someone's documented everything the man has liked historically. I've hit that little heart in error a time or two (thumb and phone issues).

[–]Mindless_Bet_2826 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I am not arguing he isn't successful in his own right. I am arguing that some of his behavior needs to be scrutinized and he shouldn't be held on this pedestal of the perfect guy.

Obviously, I am very glad he is an active activist of vaccines and knelt in solidarity with black football players back in 2020. However, his recent "like" of post with Donald Trump in it may call some of that into question.

I am not putting him on a pedestal, he is worthy of criticism just like anyone else. It is however super reductive and dehumanising to just plainly call someone a “beer guzzling frat bro”.

If you truly think liking a post of a sports journalist taking a picture with Trump calls into question a decade of left wing political views and activism then I don’t feel like you are engaging in this conversation in an honest way. A month ago Donald Trump said publicly that he knows Travis dislikes him.

Remember when all his misogynistic, fat-shaming and ableist tweets resurfaced?

https://thetab.com/uk/2023/11/17/fans-are-calling-out-travis-kelce-for-his-problematic-sexist-and-ableist-old-tweets-338169

Yes I’m aware that he made comments and jokes about fat people on his twitter account 15 year ago.

At one point he also referred to women as "breeders." https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/travis-kelce-breeders-taylor-swift-romance-b1117061.html#:~:text=%E2%80%9CI've%20gotta%20start%20breeding,mom%20can%20love%20me%20again.%E2%80%9D

Did you actually listen to or watch the audio of what he actually said here? He was talking about society’s and parents expectations they put on their children to give them grandchildren. He was talking about the literal act of human breeding, he wasn’t saying he viewed women that way.

The Andy Reid Incident - yes I know he owned up to it and said he "crossed the line," but a physical outburst of anger is very concerning. You are a 34-year-old man who is 6' 5" and 250 lbs; you can seriously injure someone. It was terrifying to see him do that to his "boss" on national television.

Yes players blowing up on the sidelines is always bad and deserving of criticism. It happens with players more than it should.

Continuing to party after a mass shooting occured - I know it was a pre-planned event but it was very insensitive and in poor taste.

https://www.thelist.com/1521876/travis-kelce-moments-fans-cant-forget/

I’m sorry but you have absolutely no right to tell a survivor of a traumatic event how they should deal with it. A person going to dinner with friends and family after a traumatic event is in now way in “poor taste” and is a very valid way to cope with trauma.

And then recently liking a post with Trump.

Already addressed this above.

Taylor has admitted and eluded to her struggle with alcohol and I think being around a major partier like Travis (who is guzzling beers on a graduation stage) isn't good for her.

There was no graduation, it was his own live podcast recording with a mock graduation with no other fake graduates. His fans gave him the beat and had signs daring him to drink it.

https://x.com/dtweet2101/status/1778899169320882336?s=61&t=hwORiQcDO0qKBvzCuX5gfA

Nobody is perfect but he is not some prince charming.

He is definitely no Prince Charming and no one is in my opinion, you have definitely misrepresented and exaggerated quite a few instances though in my opinion.

[–]Radiant_Priority9739 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What an iconic summer tbh

[–]altdultosaurs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

THE LOKI GIRLY RAGE WAS EXQUISITE AND I HAVE NEVER LIVED SO WELL.

[–]Blablabla888 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They look like they vibe and like each other...You cannot tell when people are in love from just pictures. They enjoyed each other's company and found each other hot. Thinking someone is in love from a picture after dating a few weeks is maybe showing how extremely young you are or that you've never dated or both. In real life the strong feelings in the beginning are lust which hopefully turn into love. Although you know from the get go if you will fall in love at a much later date.

[–]vanillaangels 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She DID NOT deserve him imo.

[–]therainshow 16 points17 points  (2 children)

She looks so good in that last photo. She always looks very healthy, happy, and vibrant when she is a little tan. I wish she’d wear a tan more often, but I guess she doesn’t go outside very much. She’s usually ghostly pale.

[–]Fickle-Patience-9546 30 points31 points  (1 child)

How could she? Until recently she was locked in a basement. So sad. /s

[–]OthoHasTheHandbook 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At the time it seemed like such a weirdly aggressive PR push because it was just SO public and OTT (and I’m not someone who thinks most celeb romances are PR). I lost so much respect for Tom because I sincerely thought he was gunning hard for Bond and was willing to involve his mother in a showmance. Now it seems obvious that he was just being a giant lovestruck goober.

Honestly, this was the guy she should’ve married. He fulfilled the “artsy Brit” fantasy she seems to have (like Matty, Joe) but also had that theater-kid thirst for admiration that made him cool with (or want?) a super public romance (like Travis). Maybe she just wasn’t feeling him, but she fumbled.

[–]Lazeyy23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I honestly loved this era. I was a Tom fan when they started dating and I kinda loved it lol. I know people say he was in it for the fame, but I honestly think he was just happy to “show her off” and bring her as his plus one simply because he loved her (or really liked her).

I can’t really remember where I read it so take it with a grain of salt, but I read that she lost interest due to feeling like he was parading her around for clout/increased coverage of his own stuff. I can’t say if it was or wasn’t, but Tom has always seemed like a sweetheart to me so I didn’t really buy it.

That said, Travis is being admired for “showing her off” and bringing her around and doing things for PR. I may be misremembering, but I feel like Tom was borderline demonized for similar behavior.

Anyways, I hope they’re both happy, but they were really cute together. Their outfits together/her fashion choices at the time were peak for me lol

Edit: corrected a misspelling

[–]Crafty_Method_8351 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ll never understand what she didn’t see in him 🥺

[–]mmeka 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I wish she had gone low key with him to do a trial run of things. If it didn't work out, oh well, no loss of face. How long were they together a month or two? Then again he is far older than her. Maybe she thought it was okay to flaunt after a breakup. I felt embarrassed for him the poor guy.

[–]Elizabeth__Sparrow 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This was not her first big age gap relationship though. And unlike with John and Jake she was herself old enough that it wasn’t as big a deal. 

[–]mmeka 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I know. I wasn't talking about the age gap and more about his actual age. Grown man reign it in. Acting like teenagers falling in love for the first time. They appeared liked that. I'm sure it was just the overexposure coloring my view.

[–]beetrixy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah yes. The guy Cruel Summer is about. /s

[–]Darietta812 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh…I loved these 2 together 🥹. She was 26 and he was 35…just in different place in life at the time. But this,imo, was a good match for her. Just not the right time. But, except her current relation, the best match she had

[–]Platypus23xo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They were a beautiful couple.

[–]seventiesporno 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He was too good for her

[–]WDTHTDWA-BITCH 4 points5 points  (2 children)

The very obvious PR of it all was so extra. Nobody took that relationship seriously.

[–]HolidayNothing171 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Tom did

[–]alittlebeachy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You’re right and should say so!

[–]pttdreamland 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like her style during this phase the best

[–]AccomplishedCow3011 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought they were so fake. This was the moment I stopped liking her as a person and only liked her for the music lol

[–]Chiemekah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was rooting for them! They did look pretty happy together. I don't want to believe that he was just a rebound, they seemed genuinely into each other.

[–]desire-d 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I liked them separately but I wasn’t too big on them as a couple just bc of how the Calvin/Taylor breakup happened and i figured it was a rebound but she had worked so hard during the 1989 era to not have her relationships a big deal and she focused on her squad and has her longest relationship with Calvin.. looking back now they did look good together and he’s a good guy so I feel bad she kinda used him but he seems to suit her alot.

[–]TheQranBerries 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TS wore auntie outfits when she and Tom were together.