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I feel like it's important to mention that Max Brooks is the son of EGOT winner Mel Brooks and his equally talented wife Anne Bancroft

u/SaneUse avatar

How many fucking levels does this have? The revelations just keep piling

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That's sort of the open secret of the entertainment industry. Everyone is related to everyone else, and if they're not then they're likely related to independently rich people. It's why there are loads of people who get like 10 tries at being the next big thing with a huge media push every few years; they're important people's children/nephews/cousins/etc.

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Yeah, but Max Brooks is actually a decent writer. So it's not quite the same as some nepo baby getting infinite tries while they suck at everything they do, which gets pushed to our movie screen anyway.

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Oh for sure, I wasn't knocking his skill or anything; WWZ is a great book. However, there are loads of other skilled writers or actors or musicians or whatever who never get a chance either because they can't name-drop a famous person or because they just don't know about certain opportunities. Having a relative in the industry say "Here, go to this building and talk to this casting director" is a huge leg up even if you're already good, even without that relative specifically thumbing the scale.

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Had Max Brooks not been a nepo baby he wouldn't have broken it big. There are countless authors at least as good as Max Brooks who languish with barely any sales because they don't have the extreme connections and wealth to actually make it big.

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Being a decent writer and four quarters will get you a dollar. For the rest of us plebs, you typically need some combination of amazing skills, a brilliant idea, fortuitous timing, hard work, and then the other 99% is blind chance. Be it writing, acting, music, dancing, whatever, anything where you could potentially become a famous ___________, these people aren't born on third base, they're home runs with a pulse.

Even the ones that "earned" it, that paid their dues, studied the craft, blah blah blah, there's thousands upon thousands of people that tick all the same boxes (and a hundred more) whose names you will never know.

The only part I'll grant them is the value of the "experiential" side of their nepotism. If you've been on movie sets or backstage at concerts since you were a literal babe in arms, you're going to pick up a lot just from sort of being present. A 20-year-old with 20 years experience isn't exactly commonplace in any industry. Even setting connections aside for a minute, if I'm casting a child actor, for example, I'll take the kid who's been on sets every day of his short life and parents (who will be on set with their child full-time) who are better-versed than I am in most aspects of production over a "better" kid who just got off the bus from Nebraska with his mom. That's an actual, tangible, real skill the nepo babies have that you or I do not. Even still, there are plenty of seasoned pros with encyclopedic industry knowledge that are destined to languish in obscurity until the day they die. It's a skill, sure, but it's more of a happy coincidence than an actual selling point.

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It is the same, because there are thousands of decent writers, hundreds of better writers every year, who never get a shot because they were born wrong

Yea but he also had “like 10 tries” as an actor before writing World War Z, and then WWZ had an ensemble cast for the audio book right after it came out. That’s not something a regular author has access to.

Nepotism gets a bad rap. Your parents are famous musicians? Great, there are instruments lying around the house, your parents can give you lessons on how to sing and play, you grew up watching them workshop songs. They're friends with people who have studios you can borrow to play around in, they know people who'll teach you how to set up sound equipment, and on and on and on and on. Yeah, some of it's nepotism, but there's also a big factor of you having all the tools and privileges necessary to learn a skill from a young age. This doesn't apply as much to politicians and business dorks, but for artists being the child of professional artists means you've got everything you need to learn to be a professional artist.

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Cough

CARA DELEVINGNE

Cough

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Also, it's really hard to break into acting, even for connected people. You need to deal with years of earning basically no income, which is exceedingly difficult. Unless you have rich parents that can support you the entire time.

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It’s like many other things, boils down to one of a few factors: who are you, who do you know, and where are you from.

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Your favorite artist has wealthy parents.

That doesn’t mean their art is bad, but it does mean they’ve never had to worry about rent, ever.

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Just wait until you find out how Ja Rule fits into all this.

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WHERE IS JA?!?!

WHERE IS JA??

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well where is ja

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Before Max Brooks coined the term The Declaration of Independence, it was simply referred to as the autograph sheet

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I had no clue that Max Brooks was the off spring of Mel Brooks and Anne Bancroft, talk about parentage.

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I always get Mel Brooks and Mel Gibson mixed up. So I was like holy shit this dudes dad is Mad Max?

It’s a rough mix up too, because one is a very prominent Jewish actor/director, and the other… well…

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Max is so much more talented than his father in ways most don’t understand….

…all the humor and wit, and then he is a regular speaker at West Point after his book World War Z was read by the Joint Chiefs of staff. The dude commands an absolutely breathtaking amount of knowledge on human adaptability.

What the fuck the hole is getting deeper

Fun fact: Mel Brooks helped produce a David Lynch film

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There’s a scene in the book where the protagonist lights tnt, and he subconsciously compares it to the atomic bomb. This damn book is amazing.

I haven't read the book, so I don't know how well he accomplished this, but I heard the author wanted to bring complex real-world issues into an environment kids are more familiar with so they can have conversations about them on their own terms. I actually like that idea and I'd be curious to know how many discussions kids had with each other and with their parents and teachers as a result of this book.

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bring complex real-world issues into an environment kids are more familiar with so they can have conversations about them on their own terms.

I've worked near kids and just reading that gave me anxiety. Kids will argue with you over the color of the sky, I do not want them having a grasp on current political discussions lmao.

Imagining that with teens who already think they're right after a single Google search? Gives me shivers.

edit: Reddits been taken over by teenagers if I have to read one more comment about how kids aren't dumb, they just don't know stuff. Aka when you don't know anything, you're dumb...

Kids will argue with you over the color of the sky, I do not want them having a grasp on current political discussions lmao.

While I get what you're saying, I kinda don't think that's a terrible idea. People often criticize debates because they say it's just arguing over things that should be an accepted truth, but even if you say one side is objectively correct then it's still important to really go back and forth to get as close to the full truth as possible.

The sky is clearly blue.

No, it's red!

Why do you believe the sky is red?

Well, it's red sometimes!

But should the color of the sky be defined by what it is the majority of the day, what most people associate it with, or what the sky is at specific timepoints?

I think the sky is green

Shut the fuck up, Billy

Idk why I'm doing this first thing in the morning on a Minecraft novel post.

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People really have no idea how to debate anymore.

That or dumb people have just taken over every platform.

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Uh, homie, Dr. Suess wrote the Butter Battle about the cold war, nuclear proliferation, and mutually assured destruction;it ended in atomic annihilations and nothing but blank pages.. So I think you've missed that boat.

I love how every time someone takes kids seriously and adresses things like they are entire humans that can actually think, everyone acts surprised when kids love their work, and then instantly goes back to dehumanizing children because they can't be fucked to try and understand them

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"Kids should be kept away from critical thinking" is a wiiiiiiild take there buddy. Hope you do what we all, including kids, are capable of and reconsider

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You want to foster curiosity and the ability to form AND REFORM opinions based on continued learning.

this opinion sucks my shithole buddy

They're the ones who are going to inherit the hellish broken world we've bequeathed them. The younger htey start the more time they have to learn.

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okay orphan crusher.

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There’s also a part where he falls into lava and compares the experience to being in hell

Is it appropriate for a bookworm 8yo who loves Minecraft?

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Yeah, nothing graphic. If anything, it gets wordy and philosophical at times.

I have heard the audiobook and its sequel (narrated by Sean Astin) probably a dozen times. The final book in the trilogy just came out, and we're currently going through oooone more run before we pick up The Village.

My kid is six, and has listened to this book since he was 4 or so. Maybe early 5. It never freaked him out. For 2 straight halloweens he has been a character from this book (first "Jack", because he didn't know the protagonist's name, only that the book was narrated by Jack Black, and then Summer [a character who shows up in book 2] last year). The way the book is written to correlate "The lessons of Minecraft" into actual real-world advice is pretty great.

I would honestly kill to know the Minecraft world seed Max Brooks based this story on, because it's very clear he spent a day or 2 playing Minecraft and got an entire book out of what he did as an absolute noob.

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Yeah, my kid loves it. We just started book 3. It's better than most Minecraft books. The 8-bit Villager books take a turn for the freaking weird around book 4/5 or so.

My 7yo is obsessed with Minecraft and we both hated it. He actually turned the audiobook off halfway through even with Jack Blacks incredible reading. There is simply nothing there, no story or plot or minecraft lore. It's someone with no name, no character, memories, or knowledge of video games or minecraft fumbling around in the tutorial stage for what feels like 2000pages.

World War Z was incredible, this was garbage. There are a ton of minecraft books including getting sucked into minecraft. I honestly shocked anyone liked this book at all, must be irony as deep as the Mariana

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i am become creeper.

destroyer of homes.

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Every new detail I hear about this book feels like biting into soft food and feeling something crunchy

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and he subconsciously compares it to the atomic bomb

"I thought we were building a stripminer."

"Well, you're technically right."

OPP OPP OPP OPPENMINER STYLE

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"Mel Brooks' son wrote a Minecraft isekai" was an event I never thought I'd be pondering.

TIL the author of World War Z is Mel Brooks' son

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He's also a senior fellow at the Modern War Institute at West Point, New York.

He wrote a world wide battle plan that was as far reaching as basic resources needed to supply it. That shows the type of thought they want to encourage and the kinds of challenges they want to put in front of cadets.

Dan Carlin interviewed him and I’m gonna be honest and say he didn’t seem that wise on the topic he was talking about. Real let down for me as I’ve been a fan of all of his work.

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What is Mel Brooks was his ghostwriter all along

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Gross. : (

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Mel Brooks' son wrote a Minecraft isekai that was later narrated by Jack Black

Just in case you wanted to add another layer.

Here's another fun layer. Mel Brooks' son wrote a Minecraft isekai that was later narrated by Jack Black whose mother worked on the Apollo Space Program and who's half-brother invented Blue-Force Tracking also known as GPS.

Judith Love Cohen and Neil Siegel if anyone was curious.

She worked on the Apollo 11 computer coding, and was literally in labor in the hospital room still working before she birthed one of the greatest musicians of our time.

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What an insane thing to say

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I just listened to the preview of it. My god, Jack Black’s voice is soothing, lol. Each syllable a call to adventure, yet still, a reassuring deepness that says it’s cool to chill.

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And narrated by Jack Black, it’s great.

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i read this book in like 2016 or whenever when it came out and unironically loved it. also there's a part where it implies that the game got updated because a crafting recipe he tried already didn't work the first time but did work the second time

They continue this theme in the 2nd book, where they randomly go outside and they're like "holy shit, there's fish in the water!"

Or when he's talking to the only other human he's met, and he's trying to figure out what the world is all about. Is it an afterlife? Is it some sort of cosmic lesson?

And then the second character is like "Nah, it's a video game, quit overthinking it."

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theres a SECOND BOOK?

And a third narrated by fuckin’ Samwise Gamgee, Sean Astin.

A THIRD?!? What is it called

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u/master_pingu1 avatar

Mister president, a second book has hit the store shelves.

The third just came out, books 2 and 3 are both narrated by Sean Astin.

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I associate that name with the narrator of meerkat manor

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Video game isekai if it was peak

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How does Steve Minecraft piss?

Blocc cocc

Like a villager with a flu.

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"HRRRRNNNNN"

Hœugh hæugh

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He doesn’t

All matter becomes energy in that body

PEAK EFFICIENCY

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He creates a piss source block that flows out to cover a set area like water and lava.

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part of the book literally mentions the protagonist's confusion at his inability to shit iirc

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Peak fiction

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Google "Smash Bros Steve Beef"

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I love you Martin

new response just dropped?

Actual Zombie

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Steve digestive system produces no waste products. It just turns matter into pure energy. How else can can he carry a stacks upon stacks of 1 m3 cubes of solid gold without a care. What do you think the "mc" in E=mc2 stands for? Minecraft of course

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I actually really enjoyed this book because not only is the writing actually good, but the character doesn’t know fuck about Minecraft and is just talking about all the stupid arbitrary rules this world has.

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YES! Exspecially if you know a lot about Minecraft. There’s just a lot of funny moments in it. Also him talking to the animals is fun because the cow is probably the only thing keeping this man sane.

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dude literally has a cow wilson

I love how the word "moo" just takes on more and more meaning until toward the end he's just substituting entire lines of dialogue for what she's saying.

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It is genius, someone that can actually write, writing about a blocky pixelated game with excellent descriptions, it is freaking hilarious. The fact that the person stuck in the game and knows nothing and describes the confusion of the first time player is so relatable, and the audiobook read by Jack Black makes it even mor amazing. my child and I love it.

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jack black can and will do whatever he wants

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There’s actually two versions of the audiobook. The main character’s gender is never specified, they can’t remember anything about their previous life, and as a block person they don’t have a physical sex, so there’s one version with a male and one with a female narrator.

However, as talented as Samira Wiley is, she was up against Jack Black, so that’s the only one people ever talk about.

The Jack Black one is the one on Amazon and Audible also

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Samira Wiley’s version is also available on both Amazon and Audible. It’s just harder to find because it’s less popular.

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Getting isekai'd in Minecraft sounds like something that could easily happen to him.

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I read a book called something like Cubeworld which was on the surface about a guy trapped in minecraft. Turned out it was a fever dream as he was in a coma slowly dying because his girlfriends father was poisoning him lol. Wack

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Oh yeah I was thinking of that, I had it in German, it was called Würfelwelt, got it as a Christmas gift from my favorite cousin. Brings me back honestly

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Didn’t he also meet one of the yogscast and make a deal with the ender dragon, who turned out to be a metaphysical representation of death?

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That rings some bells haha, been 10 years since I read it but I had a flashback reading that

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Didn’t he also meet one of the yogscast

No fucking way hahahahaha

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I read that as well. Legit one of my favorite books I read during my Minecraft novel phase.

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I think I read that one… It was weirdly good?

LMAOOO I remember that one, it wasn’t actually that bad as Minecraft books go

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I work at a used book store and we get a lot of Minecraft novelizations, and 95% of them have ugly ass covers that are physically painful to look at and I die a little every time I see them.

But not the one by Max Brooks. They're... Beautiful. I don't know why. Maybe the other ones have just lowered my standards. Or maybe they hired an artist/graphic designer who actually knew what they were doing. Anyway I've never read this book but I love it for the cover alone.

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Sounds like you could make some quality contributions to r/TerribleBookCovers

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Oh no another rabbit hole I didn't need to fall down. A pox upon ye and your ilk

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Enjoy the abyss!

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I felt the same way when I first saw some of the other Minecraft books they do, like the Mob Bestiary that's illustrated to like, actually look like an old worn down Bestiary, or the Map book, that's wrote as if it's someone taking notes and mapping out areas of their world. I was shocked that some minecraft books actually looked cool

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A youtuber I watch talked about being hired to ghost write some Minecraft books on fiverr

I believe this 100%, the "unofficial" series is absolutely awful.

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Is that the one about the troll who gets zapped into Minecraft by his dad’s invention? Or are there more “unofficial” Minecraft series?

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Most minecraft novels are unofficial made to make a quick Buck out of dumb kids. That’s how you get books like diary of a wimpy farting zombie (real book). This one was officially endorsed by mojang.

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This dude is talking about how shit he breaks becomes like flat objects and he stacks them in his pocket like playing cards this is fucking-

i'm not the only one thinking it right?

Tell me

Homestuck

Oh no

(Cans breaks through the nearest wall)

OH YEAH!

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Everything is fucking Homestuck apparently.

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ok but this shit gets introduced in the first 10 pages so its not exactly a deep-cut

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Please do not fuck homestuck

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Apparently you are

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Further evidence we are all living in a simulation

Book one of ten?!

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Absolute love this book. The second book isn't quite as good I think but still good

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there was a sequel? i know there was another book around the same time but that was by a different author

There are quite a few (10 total) that are official novels, but yeah there's a sequel. It's called "Minecraft: The Mountain", and they actually made a free(?) map for bedrock edition that follows the book story. It is by Max Brooks too

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sick, i might check that out

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Apparently a third one just came out this month, Minecraft: The Village.

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i loved this book but i’m sorry JACK FUCKING BLACK did an audiobook version???

It gets cooler, because at the time, the protagonist specifically says they don't know if they're a guy or a girl or what. They have no concept of self.

So there's one version narrated by Jack Black, but then another version narrated by Samira Wiley (Pousey from Orange Is The New Black).

But in the second book, they meet another character who says "well, you look like a guy, so I'm gonna call you Guy," and establishes the name and gender-identity of the "hero" in one word.

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huh, i actually don’t think i ever noticed that in the first book

Sorry, there’s another???

There's 3, the third just came out.
1 - The Island
2 - The Mountain
3 - The Village

I read The Island so many times when I was younger and want to pick it back up, would you say the others are as good as the first/is the first as good as I remember?

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There's two more and they are narrated by Sean Austin

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That's hilarious. There's a line in the third one that says:

“Oh, right,” I replied. “You probably haven’t seen it. It’s a magical fantasy about little people going on a big adventure, and in this early scene, that brilliant actor says something like ‘If I take one more step, it’ll be the farthest from home I’ve ever been.’ ”

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It's seriously a great audiobook, absolutely recommend it! Jack Black is perfect for it!

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Is the Minecraft fandom ok like what is happening this post felt like I was on drugs 😂

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Max Brooks has stated that he was motivated to write these books because he wanted to gets kids more interested in reading. Which is admirable. Based Max Brooks.

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Going by the comments, his motivation was "I need to get my kids interested in books." and proceeded to write one of, if not THE, best books about MINECRAFT that have graced this earth.

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I ran to my library app lmfao. Second in line for the audiobook

You won't regret it! Jack Black is awesome in it, and my kids are bummed "Bowser" didn't voice the sequel.

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I read a Minecraft book as a kid, and the only thing I remember about it is some wise sage character gave the mc an egg, and child me was like "what is that egg? That's weird." Then in the finale it turned out to be a spawn egg and I was like "oh shiiiit"

Also griefers were somehow relevant to the plot of the book but I can't for the life of me remember how

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You’re remembering the first book in the “Gameknight999” series of unofficial “Minecraft” books by Mark Cheverton - I loved the series as a child, myself; the “wise sage” character was Crafter, and griefers were relevant to the plot because Gameknight was a griefer before he was sucked into the game’s world (the books were pretty much Isekei, but not in a bad way).

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I honestly barely remember most of those books, but those were my absolute childhood and I recall that they weren't too shabby.

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Same - I don’t think they were, either.

Not only were they entertaining, and pretty well-written, but looking back on them as an adult I can appreciate the lessons the author tried to impart on his books’ young readers - I mean, the title character’s main arc in the first book was learning how to be selfless, and treat others as he would want to be treated both by experiencing pain and seeing the results of his own selfish actions; I remember the series also dealt with the concepts of war and death quite a lot, as well as the difference between vengeance and justice, despite looking like a neat little kids’ book series about kids of the time’s favorite video game.

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Holy shit I just remembered those... except all I remember is Crafter and me reading them way out of order

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holy shit gameknight999

I remember there were like 10 different series and at one point they added in MODS

it was really good though

I knew someone would know, but didn't have the courage to ask directly. Thank you.

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You’re welcome - I’m glad to have been of help.

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I genuinely own all these books, haven't read them in years though

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I genuinely love when accomplished people aren't pretentious about doing stuff like this. Idk if this is actually good but it's neat that someone as well regarded as Max Brooks can say "Minecraft? Sure, I'll take a crack at it" and not just phone it in for the paycheck.

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what if minecraft was homestuck

Homestuck is like half Minecraft when it isn't busy being half The Sims, it has a goddamn crafting table

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It is also loosely part of a series of Minecraft stories by different authors, next book would be The crash.

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When the sun is suddenly square it reminded me of this meatcanyon video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLJsSiB2dpU

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This post just cost me £6.99

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Shoutout to Elementia Chronicles, a bad and hilariously long Minecraft fanfic that managed to somehow get published and get like 4 parts. The first book is a brick that I could probably kill someone with, and the books keep getting longer, and there's at least 4 of them in total.

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how long? Worm long, homestuck long?

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Hang on, is that the series where they overthrow a server owner and then have to fight Herobrine or some shit? The name sounds familiar and I think I read all of those lol.

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I also would like to point out that this is a series and he just released the third this month

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Probably not as weird as the Minecraft erotica

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How the hell did they get Max Brooks to write a Minecraft book 😂

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He wrote three!

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I’ve read this book it’s pretty entertaining there’s more than one to. Don’t know if they’re sequels yet tho. The main character is just BEYOND confused for like 80% of the book. It’s fun I recommend it.

I met Max Brooks at a book signing that only a few people attended; it was great because we got to talk to him for a bit. I wish I could remember the exact wording of the joke he told about his dad but I believe it was something like:

Me: "I didn't want to mention your dad too much."

Brooks: "Most people do"

(edit: we were talking about dads because he noticed that my copy of World War Z was all beaten up and I told him how I read it to my dad when he was hospitalized at one point.)

A quick jaunt over to r/books to ask about this and it quickly became clear that (shocker) Tumblr is not good at judging the merits of various media. It's not nearly as introspective or thoughtful as these comments imply. He doesn't "contemplate" a flat apple as if he were Isaac fucking Newton, he just observes that it exists. It's a book for 10 year olds and makes no effort to rise above that. Everything they mention in the post is just as deep as a kid daydreaming about being in their favorite videogame.

Move along folks, nothing to see here.

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It turns out that the planet is flooded, btw.

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I have that book!

Oh my god Jack black actually did the audiobook

I got an autographed version of the book a few years ago. I don’t know if it’s the first in a series or not though

What's the big deal? Is this like a choose your own adventure book

On this note the elementia series was pretty good.

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Does the book ever reach the nether? That would turn into a horror novel in no time

Max Brooks wrote a Minecraft isekai. We really have diverged from the real timeline, huh?

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This is like that Doom novelization where Doomguy and Doomgirl are stuck alone in the Mars base after killing all the demons, travel to Earth, take refuge in the Salt Lake Temple, and discuss the philosophical implications of zombies.

I'VE LISTENED TO THAT BOOK. I was reading the quote, and by the second line, I was just like: Wait a minute. I've read that book. I've read that book. I've read that book.

Elementia Chronicles was my fucking childhood

FUCK YEAH I LOVE THAT BOOK

The worst fucking story with the best fucking audiobook narration

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I thought I was still in the bad timeline. I guess I'm in the real weird one.

There’s an audiobook narrated by Jack Black?

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That book is actually so good!!

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no one remembers the S. D. Stewart Minecraft book series

I love this book

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