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[–]DeadalusJones 2910 points2911 points  (183 children)

So much for impulse purchases, I guess.

[–]MaximusLazinus 1469 points1470 points  (173 children)

For real, do they steal so much that closing it will compensate for people not bothering and skipping on purchase

[–]Atomsq 681 points682 points  (90 children)

[–]InerasableStain 709 points710 points  (77 children)

They’ve essentially gone back to the old timey model where all goods are behind the counter and the employee had to retrieve what the customer wanted.

Ironically, wasn’t it Walgreens, or maybe Sears, that helped pioneer the model of letting customers wander the merch and bring their items to the counter?

[–]inyri 283 points284 points  (31 children)

I think it was Piggly Wiggly, but I feel like a lot of stores switched over to that model pretty quickly once they saw how it worked.

[–]EatCucumbersWhole 80 points81 points  (16 children)

And the started the shopping cart.

[–]knucklehead27 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Imagine how much money people made by just being leaders in the shopping cart industry. So simple but so necessary

[–]Additional_Meeting_2 30 points31 points  (11 children)

I thought the name of the store was a joke at first

[–]Sirnacane 46 points47 points  (10 children)

Don’t sleep on the Pig. They are extremely good at stocking stuff from locals, like city to statewide. I go to mine like once a week.

[–]SydricVym 70 points71 points  (5 children)

The "old timey model" is still the main model for the small number of retail stores that still exist in really really bad parts of the worst cities in the US. Customers can only enter a small area, and the entire rest of the store is behind inch thick ballistic glass. All the money and goods are transferred through just a small window.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR1jpjp-_SA

[–]constituent 19 points20 points  (5 children)

Service Merchandise also adapted this business model. Their entire store was a showroom where you browsed their products. You'd have a carbon-copy sheet and write down the product(s) you were interested in. These were later replaced with barcode sheets.

Take your tickets or order forms to a clerk. They'd punch in the item numbers and pay. The customer then walked over to the pickup area and grabbed their stuff off a conveyor belt.

Before they went belly-up, they eventually ditched the 'ordering' process. You just grabbed things and took 'em to the register.

[–]Cleindian44 4 points5 points  (3 children)

You took me waaay back! I remembered this about Service Merchandise.

[–]Jinxy_Kat 47 points48 points  (17 children)

To bad everyone fucked it up for everyone else.

[–]sevseg_decoder 35 points36 points  (6 children)

It wasn’t going to last. The whole idea was that customers wouldn’t, on average, steal anywhere close to the value of the wage of a worker grabbing the items for them so they could lower prices and make more profits in one move.

Now, with the cost of living being simply absurd and with robotics very much being able to grab goods and bring them to a counter, getting cheaper every year, we’re quickly approaching the point where virtually any loss exceeds the cost of having robots do the gathering and impulse buying doesn’t make up for that gap.

[–]TheresA_LobsterLoose 8 points9 points  (1 child)

But are those robots by chance a... pleasure model?

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    [–]OPmeansopeningposter 73 points74 points  (0 children)

    “It’s San Francisco, bro.” 😂

    [–]Zeldafan125 62 points63 points  (1 child)

    Wow, that’s really sad

    [–]EvLokadottr 33 points34 points  (0 children)

    Do you hear the people sing? Singing the song of angry men?

    [–]delusion74 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    That's wild. They don't even try to be sneaky or hide it. Just grab shit & walk out.

    [–]FunnySynthesis 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    It’s San Francisco bro

    [–]tkst3llar 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    “He detained 8 people shoplifting”

    Then let them go? 🤡

    [–]Atomsq 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    The store didn't want to press charges, can't do much if your main witness doesn't want to help along

    [–]Say_Hennething 132 points133 points  (46 children)

    This happens at walmarts. A particular item gets stolen so often that they start putting them in locked cases. Normal shopper doesn't want to hassle with finding someone to unlock the case, so they just don't buy it. Sales of that item fall off a cliff. It's still preferable to losing the item to theft.

    [–]TSMKFail 44 points45 points  (9 children)

    Well it's also because most stores will have a loss target (e.g. no higher than 7%) which includes food wastage and theft. More people buying the item doesn't make the loss% better and only benefits overall sales so it's more worth it for the store to lock it up, lose a few sales but keep the loss % and an acceptable level.

    At least that's how it worked wheer I worked, it could be completely different on Wallgreens or Walmart.

    [–]Usual-Role-9084 67 points68 points  (27 children)

    What’s really sad is that one of the most notoriously locked up items is baby formula. At my local Walmart there were some brands that were in glass cases and some brands (like Gerber) that were just out on the shelf. And if you wanted one of the locked up brands, not only did an employee need to open it, but you couldn’t put it in your basket. The employee put it at the front of the store at whatever register they felt like telling you they were gonna put it at, and you HAD to go to that register to check out.

    Fortunately, my son tolerated one of the not locked up brands.

    [–]Iron--E 79 points80 points  (11 children)

    I used to work the nightshift at Wal-Mart. I thought baby formula was selling really good but turns out a handful of women were coming in and stealing hundreds of dollars worth of formula lol

    [–]OkayRuin 81 points82 points  (10 children)

    Yeah, it’s not being stolen one bottle at a time by desperate mothers; it’s being stolen en masse because it’s easy to sell on the street. Same with laundry detergent.

    [–]2020vw69 22 points23 points  (0 children)

    FB marketplace always has formula.

    [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (3 children)

    Is it bad that I would rather it was actually desperate mothers?

    [–]OkayRuin 14 points15 points  (0 children)

    No, I feel the same way. I could forgive desperate mothers. Unfortunately most retail theft is perpetrated by organized circles, not the Aladdin-esque trope of hungry people stealing a loaf of bread.

    [–]LifelikeAnt420 14 points15 points  (11 children)

    I never understood why they lock up some brands and not others. The chain grocery store in my town locks up almost everything at customer service. I don't formula feed normally but I was looking into it so I could take pain meds after oral surgery. There was nothing to look at on the shelf except for a few varieties of Enfamil, with one can of each item they left. Stupid thing is they don't do this at other stores in the chain. Ours is the only one like this that I have seen so far. I honestly think they started doing this during the shortage and never stopped.

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      [–]dho64 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      Tide is famous for being stolen enmasse by druggies to resell in the ghetto for drug money. Same with cigarettes. There is a whole cottage industry of small shops selling stolen products in the ghetto for much cheaper than retail.

      [–]roddly 18 points19 points  (0 children)

      Some brands are stolen more often because they can be more reliably resold. That’s why they get locked up.

      [–]Usual-Role-9084 18 points19 points  (6 children)

      I didn’t plan on formula feeding, the cost was ridiculous. But, I ended up not being able to produce. And yea I noticed in CVS that every brand was locked up, or at least behind the counter. In the baby food section there was a little card for each formula that you had to take to the desk to get it.

      [–]ebrum2010 34 points35 points  (4 children)

      Yeah this is what a lot of people don't get. Most of the things being locked up were perpetually out of stock before the security measures. You weren't getting one beforenat all, you can get one now but it's mildly inconvenient. Also we live in an age where we can order groceries and have them delivered or pick them up, which is more convenient but for people who get outraged that's apparently not an option.

      [–]cstmoore 35 points36 points  (1 child)

      "I lost 50 pounds by shopping at Walgreens. Ask me how!"

      [–]euphoriatakingover 554 points555 points  (32 children)

      So you have to ask keeper to unlock it every time? Imagine how shitty the already shity job got

      [–]Complicated-HorseAss 294 points295 points  (23 children)

      While buddy is unlocking that, people are probably stealing the cigarettes from behind the counter.

      [–]Additional_Meeting_2 44 points45 points  (15 children)

      Is everything behind locks? Or is frozen food somehow more valuable to steal than other items?

      [–]Reich_Daddy_is_back 51 points52 points  (9 children)

      The frozen foods are probably more hygiene related given the tiktok trend were assholes were going in, licking ice cream & putting it back for unaware customer to buy it….

      [–]Zaurka14 16 points17 points  (2 children)

      I don't understand how can some companies not include freshness seal

      [–]andrew_kirfman 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      It’s apparently too much effort for blue bell and their $9 ice cream.

      [–]MaximumPower682 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      Yeah cause only 1 dude is working the entire store

      [–]niakbtc 23 points24 points  (5 children)

      We have this in a lot of stores in my neighborhood now, from Target to Riteaid and it's infuriating. They have these little ringers to alert the sales team when you need it open which is ~okay~ for a place like Target where there's a lot of staff around but it's usually just the cashier for Riteaid and they may never come sometimes if it's busy. They even had the bags of ice locked up!! Wild times.

      [–]Competitive-Wish-889 19 points20 points  (1 child)

      Why they don't just get a lock with remote controller or something? And a huge sign that says "Ask for opening"

      [–]Substantial-Bid3806 3808 points3809 points  (248 children)

      How is my antisocial ass gonna get my party pizza now. 💀

      [–]YangOfTheIndustry 1942 points1943 points  (70 children)

      "Hello this is the LockPickingLawyer, and today I'll be showing you how to retrieve a Walgreens pizza.."

      [–]Sin317 517 points518 points  (27 children)

      *Two seconds later...*

      "And there you have it..."

      [–]AlextheGreek89 302 points303 points  (13 children)

      Let's try that again to prove it wasn't a fluke proceeds to pick it even faster

      [–]Dmitri_ravenoff 79 points80 points  (11 children)

      Slams pick home in a single swipe and drops lock like a Mic drop.

      [–]SuperSyrias 22 points23 points  (10 children)

      No... thats the other youtube lockpicker. The one the algorithm keeps forcing on me.

      [–]SpookyxDoom 16 points17 points  (8 children)

      McNally?

      [–]SuperSyrias 12 points13 points  (2 children)

      Probably. The one who is quite agressive and likes to engage the haters instead of ignoring them.

      [–]Nanoro615 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      "This is a masterlock24C, you can open it with a masterlock 24c"

      [–]poop_frog 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      "However, all this is totally unnecessary. thumps lock lightly on a solid surface, popping the shackle open"

      [–]TheRealShoeThief 35 points36 points  (3 children)

      This reminded me of when he put a lock on his wife’s Ben and Jerry’s, so she cut open the rest of the container to get to the ice cream.

      [–]emote_control 19 points20 points  (1 child)

      She clearly understands countermeasures.

      [–]SocraticIgnoramus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      “Good thing that worked because I was ready to go scorched earth, that was the last Cherry Garcia.”

      [–]GreedyLibrary 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Best part was his goal was to "get her intrested in non destructive" entry methods.

      [–]Nimoy2313 31 points32 points  (6 children)

      Binding on 2

      [–]Deadly_chef 21 points22 points  (5 children)

      2 is set

      [–]shabba182 18 points19 points  (4 children)

      Nothing on 3

      [–]DebBoi 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      Bro just wiggles the lock and it falls apart like a lego

      [–]Sin317 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      I think at this point, him looking is enough. The dude's incredible.

      [–]HumanAverse 47 points48 points  (6 children)

      He sells picks and other tools on his website:

      https://covertinstruments.com/

      Owning a lock pick set is not illegal in most states.

      In most states, owning lock pick tools is only considered a crime if you use them illegally. In other words, the courts must show that you had intent to commit a crime.

      There are a few notable exceptions, which we've highlighted on our map.

      A few states take a "guilty until proven innocent" stance when it comes to owning a lock pick set. Owning a lock pick set is trickier in Nevada, Ohio, and Virginia. These states consider ownership of a lock pick set "prima facie evidence."

      This essentially means these states might put you in a position of proving you weren't planning to use the lock pick set for the purpose of committing a crime.

      In Mississippi, you can own a lock pick set, but concealment is considered prima facie evidence.

      In Tennessee, the laws are vague, but it appears you can own lock pick tools if you're not using your skill for profit.

      [–]Professional-Box4153 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      If you have to prove that you are not using your lockpicks for nefarious purposes, the best response would be "do any of you own a gun?"

      [–]builder397 34 points35 points  (13 children)

      You dont even need to pick the lock, just unscrew the mounts on the wall.

      [–]Fenweekooo 15 points16 points  (6 children)

      it looks like a master lock, apparently they practically pick themselves if i remember my LPL videos correctly (very good chance i don't).

      [–]BoiledWithOil 310 points311 points  (9 children)

      *Awkwardly cuts the lock with bolt cutters*

      [–]Substantial-Bid3806 170 points171 points  (6 children)

      “This is a Walgreens lock, I’ll be opening it with a frozen pizza.”- McNally said calmly.

      [–]MogsPOV 25 points26 points  (5 children)

      McNally would open this just by putting tension on the chain lets be real

      [–]FASBOR7Horus 14 points15 points  (3 children)

      That lock would open voluntarily the second he steps foot in the shop

      [–]Tots2Hots 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      2 box wrenches in your pocket in 10 seconds and easy to conceal.

      After watching lockpicking lawyer I realized that just about every consumer grade lock can be broken super fast or picked very easily and are more of a deterrent than a safety thing.

      [–]Last-Instruction739 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      They are literally “hot” pockets.

      [–]Siserith 27 points28 points  (0 children)

      paperclip, it's always the paperclip. If my dumb ass has managed to piss off a few hundred people picking random locks to either prove a point, or be lazy in buying something, you can too.

      [–]UndeadSpud 97 points98 points  (113 children)

      A CVS near me did something like this. The fridge doors are locked. You have to ring a button. Then you’ll hear over the speakers, declaring to the entire store you need assistance getting into the fridge. Then a store assist comes, unlocks it, and watches you make your selection.

      At that point, you’re really losing more money from driving customers away than anything you’d save in shoplift prevention

      [–]Stuckinacrazyjob 39 points40 points  (9 children)

      Yes they are like ' why is everyone on Amazon.com. because we literally can't get what we came in for. You have one guy in the store

      [–]Iron--E 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      If it's at the point to where they are locking up fridges, chances are they're losing more from theft

      [–]3232FFFabc 3 points4 points  (9 children)

      Yeah, it’s a bit of damned if you do and damned if you don’t. So they remove the security and then the branch closes because it is unprofitable due to massive shoplifting losses. Is that a better outcome?

      [–]JeterIsTheGOAT 62 points63 points  (73 children)

      They don’t have any choice. There’s a reasons these kinds of chain and convenience stores are closing down in certain cities. Shoplifting is rampant and most cities don’t care at all about it so the police do nothing to stop it. This is one of the last options before they entirely remove the frozen section or even close down

      [–]Little_Charge3225 48 points49 points  (8 children)

      This gets blamed a lot by these stores but the truth is usually a lot more complicated. I worked for a large local chain in a high theft area of my town. They closed the store because of “shoplifting”. Except that was a lie—at least mostly a lie. The real problem was 1) a lack anyone purchasing high margin items like vitamins and 2) a massively smaller amount of pharmacy sales.

      [–]holysbit 21 points22 points  (2 children)

      I am willing to be they are losing more than you think to shoplifters

      Many larger cities these days wont prosecute shoplifters heavily enough to stop them from walking into a store and packing hundreds of dollars of merchandise into bags and leaving

      [–]Rand_alThor4747 56 points57 points  (30 children)

      Moving to a better city.

      [–]Suleyco 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      Your ass would probably want to go to a different area to begin with.

      [–]Significant-Cut2636 512 points513 points  (39 children)

      The lock boxes and such also keep me from buying stuff as well. Having to go chase down employees to get the item out and to be told they don’t work that department is annoying. If you’re gonna lock it up make sure you have employees that can get it out. Lot of times I just skip those items

      [–]Blueskyways 205 points206 points  (28 children)

      For them it beats having half the section cleaned out by shoplifters every night. The future of retail in particularly high crime areas is going to be a high tech version of the old general store model where everything is locked up, you pick out what you need on a touchscreen, an employee goes and grabs it for you and you'll pick it up through a secure window.

      [–]thisjawnisbeta 28 points29 points  (6 children)

      This is essentially what pre-order is like at many grocery stores already. You just punch in what you want online, submit your order, and show up 30-60 minutes later and pick it up.

      [–]johnandahalf13 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      Best way to get the shittiest produce.

      [–]thxitsthedepression 6 points7 points  (3 children)

      30-60 minutes?? I work in one of these places and our minimum is 2 hours in advance lol

      [–]Adventure-us 81 points82 points  (12 children)

      It wont be a person. It will be a robot. And it will fuck up half your stuff by crushing your pasta with its grabbers or whatever.

      Then we will stop having stores altogether, and everything will just be delivered by drones.

      [–]twfilms 34 points35 points  (0 children)

      Then we will stop having stores altogether, and everything will just be delivered by drones.

      Don't threaten me with a good time.

      [–]ultracrepidarian_can 5 points6 points  (3 children)

      Don't forget about the AI chatbot that won't give you a refund for your broken merchandise after you already paid.

      [–]Not_Bernie_Madoff 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      The smart stores have call buttons by them.

      [–]F0ur20Memez 936 points937 points  (377 children)

      As someone who has worked at Walgreens, people steal all the time, and all they tell us during training for it is to "ask if they are going to pay for it", you really can't do anything about it, and in California you legally can't do anything about it. They just lock things up and make it harder to steal but people still find their ways.

      [–]11th_account_ban 665 points666 points  (271 children)

      The government telling people their businesses have no rights to their property by violating the 5th via not prosecuting crimes blows my mind.

      [–]welcome2idiocracy 285 points286 points  (79 children)

      Yeah California has some backwards ass laws

      [–]kirpid 131 points132 points  (19 children)

      It all started because it cost more to prosecute them than they stole, so they wait to build a grand theft case, through a network of private detective agencies, that work across regional chains.

      Back in the 90’s I heard stories about security and staff just fucking up shop lifters and sending them on their way. Definitely illegal, but if the police were going to turn a blind eye to shop lifters, they may as well turn a blind eye to the beat downs.

      Obviously this would favor the beat up shop lifters in civil court these days. Not worth the liability, so they let the shop lifters go wild.

      [–]Professerson 19 points20 points  (1 child)

      I get what you're saying and agree it's terrible that the authorities just allow this to continue. But I really don't trust some Paul Blart mall cop to be my judge, jury, and executioner if he suspects me of shoplifting.

      [–]kirpid 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      Not even making a judgement. Just laying out the situation, since everybody thinks this is some new phenomenon. Maybe it’s getting worse. I haven’t looked at the stats. Due to the nature of it, I wouldn’t trust them.

      I’d rather we just prosecute thieves. We’ll spend the money on assault. Because you can’t let that slide. Why let thieves slide?

      [–]kristianvl 163 points164 points  (42 children)

      I’m not supporting theft by any means, but what does that have to do with the fifth amendment? Prosecutorial discretion is a thing in every legal system known to man.

      [–]bltcll 87 points88 points  (6 children)

      europe minus few countries have compulsory prosecution.

      [–]KjellRS 26 points27 points  (0 children)

      It means we don't do the same kind of bargaining for plea deals, it doesn't mean that there's magically capacity for everything. If the police is told to prioritize drugs and violent crime and never get around to investigating your shoplifting case, too bad. If the prosecutor's office doesn't have the capacity to file charges, too bad. But if you're fined it's either pay or take it to court - you can't bargain your way down from grand theft to petty theft or anything like that.

      [–]kristianvl 33 points34 points  (0 children)

      Did not know that, thanks for teaching me something new!

      [–]ridezeshoopuf_ 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      Prosecutorial discretion is meant for one off cases that have odd scenarios that justify deviation from the law. It is not meant to legalize an entire crime. That completely upsets the constitutional order - the other 2 branches have a duty to execute and enforce laws passed by the legislature.

      [–]lying-therapy-dog 63 points64 points  (11 children)

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      [–]spderweb 62 points63 points  (17 children)

      It's more like, the government prevents an employee to put their employees at risk just to protect their bottom line.

      If the business is worried, they could hire security.

      [–]Mhunterjr 44 points45 points  (8 children)

      Which law are you talking about? In California businesses cannot task non-security personnel to engage shoplifters. That’s not the same as saying Businesses don’t have rights to their property.

      [–]Obant 35 points36 points  (1 child)

      But I wanna be mad at California.

      We have some stupid laws, it's true. But the whole crime is legal narrative is so boring. I live in a very high-crime neighborhood in Southern California. I don't fear for my life and property every day.

      [–]override367 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Tennessee's violent crime rate is 50% higher than California's, but I would bet my paycheck that not a single person in this thread that is vomiting out Sinclair Media Group's talking points knows that

      [–]whogivesashite2 54 points55 points  (22 children)

      You want some poor shlub working at Walgreens to risk their life over a fucking hot pocket? It's a corporate policy, knob.

      [–]AraxTheSlayer 40 points41 points  (78 children)

      in California you legally can't do anything about it.

      Wait what? How does that work?

      [–]F0ur20Memez 81 points82 points  (69 children)

      The cops don't do anything about it, unless it's like pharmaceutical drugs or over $1000 worth of stuff.

      [–]Easywormet 102 points103 points  (46 children)

      It's important to note that the police are forced to do this by the law.

      If you're going to be mad at anyone, be mad at the dumbass politicians that pushed that law.

      [–]MaterialCarrot 59 points60 points  (2 children)

      And the voters who put them in office.

      [–]X16 20 points21 points  (10 children)

      At some point these shops will stop doing business in municipalities that refuse to enforce the law. Something has to break.

      [–]Shirubax 27 points28 points  (10 children)

      Why not just raise the price to 1001$ and remove the locks then?

      They could always have 995$ off coupons for members only or something anyway.

      [–]Classic-Box-3919 37 points38 points  (9 children)

      Then no one would know the real price for stuff

      [–]Shirubax 12 points13 points  (2 children)

      Good point.

      I suppose you would have to make it 1000+, like...

      Instead of 4.95, make it 1004.95

      [–]Puzzleheaded_Air5814 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      With a 1000.00 dollar discount at the cash register.

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        [–]happy_lad 16 points17 points  (4 children)

        in California you legally can't do anything about it.

        Can you cite the law that says this?

        [–]SgtMcMuffin0 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Yeah like I imagine you legally can’t attack someone for shoplifting, but to say you have no recourse in the entire state is absurd.

        I have read that San Francisco does not prosecute petty theft until it gets over a certain amount. But that’s not the entire state.

        If I’m wrong and there actually is a state wide law for this that I’m unaware of, someone prove me wrong and drop the link.

        [–]Joe18067 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        Sure makes it hard to sell any of that stuff.

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          [–]theMEtheWORLDcantSEE 451 points452 points  (326 children)

          Just close the stores at this point. This is untenable to do business.

          [–]IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE 85 points86 points  (6 children)

          A lot of stores are actually doing that. Just outright packing up shop and leaving.

          [–]AsheDragon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          That’s why there’s no more Walmarts in Portland

          [–]creativeuniquename69 34 points35 points  (6 children)

          Walgreens executive: "Maybe we cried too much" about shoplifting, thefts https://www.axios.com/2023/01/07/walgreens-james-kehoe-shrinkage-theft

          [–]RealClarity9606 111 points112 points  (20 children)

          Are you infuriated at the theft or the fact that the store has to address?

          [–]kswitch5022 47 points48 points  (9 children)

          Based on the comments that the store is locking it up.

          [–]Penguins227 86 points87 points  (8 children)

          Which is wild, we should be infuriated at the cause, not the effect.

          [–]kswitch5022 47 points48 points  (1 child)

          No room for accountability on the internet.

          [–]square_tomatoes 23 points24 points  (0 children)

          “tHeY hAvE iNsUrAnCe”

          [–]malaka201 42 points43 points  (0 children)

          If you've been to San Fran Walgreens especially this one, I'm surprised everything isn't chained up.

          [–]FlavianusFlavor 33 points34 points  (3 children)

          I’d say the theft is the mildly infuriating part

          [–]slowpokefarm 22 points23 points  (52 children)

          Non-American here, any particular reason why is food geting stolen there?

          [–]Suleyco 61 points62 points  (4 children)

          That particular area mentioned in the article isn’t the best neighborhood you’d want to be in, especially at night.

          [–]SwornBiter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          It’s spreading, though. I don’t live in a bad neighborhood. My grocery store has permanently closed one entrance and has an armed guard at the other. Also, some high-cost-density items are locked up just like this.

          [–]Sevrenic 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          That neighborhood is called San Francisco

          [–]m0nk37 13 points14 points  (0 children)

          Massive drug and mental health problem going on country wide and even in Canada. Look up "tent city [insert major city name here]" and see for yourself.

          [–][deleted] 298 points299 points  (41 children)

          “If people could afford food”

          Why are you pretending the only people that are stealing food are people that can’t afford it? Businesses have a right to protect themselves against theft anyway

          [–]Classic-Box-3919 94 points95 points  (3 children)

          Yea teens steal all the time even coming from nice families lol.

          [–]TSMKFail 74 points75 points  (10 children)

          The whole "Stealing Good" thing that gained immense popularity recently (especially on Twitter or X now I guess) is disturbing. There are places like Food Banks you can go to if you need support.

          It's not as simple as "the big corperations can eat the cost" because a: each store has its own budget and targets to meet, which if they don't meet, it risks the jobs of the people working there and the store itself over a long enough period, and b: a community full of thieves is not one a lot of people are comfortable living in, so when the stealing increases, the people with money move away, which is bad for the area as a whole as companies will be far less willing to work in that environment.

          I'll link a clip where Linus Tech Tips if I can find it as he explains it better than me

          [–]Kittenn1412 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          Yeah, there's definitely a correlation by the recent rise of the "stealing good" thing and stores implementing stricter and stricter security measures. The WalMarts in my area now have screens in every aisle showing off how many cameras they have. My local grocery store has railings with plexiglass so you can't go in-between or over to force all exiting traffic through a checkout despite the store not being actually designed in a way that was conductive for that in the first place, making this really weird plexi exit hallway where people have to walk single-file with a uniformed security guard at the end staring at you. And it sort of creates the opposite effect of security theatre-- instead of people seeing the security measures and feeling more safe, they're seeing the security measures and thinking "wow I didn't realize that there were so many thieves in this neighbourhood maybe I should shop at a store in a different neighbourhood?" The stores in the nicer neighbourhood have similar railings but the store was built in a way that the railings aren't so intimidating and there's no uniformed security standing at the end.

          [–]CalmPanic402 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Corps will never eat a cost they can force onto their employees

          [–]GigaSquirt 39 points40 points  (4 children)

          Gotta love how criminals ruined it for everyone.

          [–]rifraf2442 124 points125 points  (32 children)

          Because ya’all steal shit. I see it on subs all the time where stealing shit is justified. Fuck around and find out as the saying goes. So now we have this.

          [–]jakl8811 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          You see posts like “well they have insurance” which instantly tells me it’s someone who has idea how insurance works - let alone retail insurance

          [–]TRANSformed_husband 27 points28 points  (5 children)

          exactly this. I used to work retail, anyone who has knows how problematic stealing is for the store itself and how the dumbest shit gets stolen. Thieves don't steal necessities like toiletries or pet food or rice, they steal shit like chimichangas, beer, and headphones. If they steal necessities like Tide detergent or baby formula, it's because they're reselling that shit or using it as some kind of currency. Shoplifters are very rarely the desperate impoverished person or chaotic good Robin Hood type. They're normally total assholes. I do have sympathy for the rare person actually trying to feed their families, but again- these folks are very rare.

          Just because a store is owned by a billion-dollar corporation doesn't mean that constant theft can't make a store insolvent which jeopardizes the jobs of several people and risks the community losing a source of affordable, necessary goods. Businesses aren't fucking charities and it's insane to assume that they'll use whatever profits from one store to prop another store up when it's hemorrhaging money. Yes, big corporations are fucking evil but shutting down stores because of rampant, often organized theft isn't the reason.

          some people need to wake the fuck up when it comes to retail theft and look up the data. There's been a rise over the last decade or so in retail theft, half of all retail losses are because of organized crime. And because progressives are so stupid and terminally online that they actively promote shoplifting because it "hurts corporations." It doesn't hurt corporations one bit. It hurts communities.

          [–]AttentionNarrow2103 94 points95 points  (28 children)

          Are you infuriated at Walgreens for trying to protect their assets or are you infuriated at your community for leaving Walgreens to do this

          [–]Dclaxto1 43 points44 points  (9 children)

          This is what happens when you don’t lock up criminals. You have to lock up everything else.

          [–]Armaedus 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Letting people steal shit was such a great idea

          [–]Indignus_Filius 314 points315 points  (62 children)

          The people in SF only have themselves to blame for not having nice things.

          [–]bwaterco 198 points199 points  (57 children)

          They’re the ones that allowed the city to ban criminalizing theft bellow $750. No shit stores would do this.

          [–]0mgyrface 41 points42 points  (3 children)

          Wow that happened?

          Go rob banks $749 at a time 😂

          Or I suppose is it only ITEMS up to that value? 🤔

          [–]Easywormet 61 points62 points  (0 children)

          Go rob banks $749 at a time 😂

          Robbing a bank automatically makes it a Federal crime and the FBI comes after you.

          [–]Classic-Box-3919 45 points46 points  (0 children)

          Robbing a bank is a federal crime. Fbi gets involved.

          A grocery store u can go to town tho.

          Bro copied exactly what i said lol

          [–]Fancy_Organization_8 23 points24 points  (0 children)

          I’ve seen lots of theft at various ones in various states. They understaff at night, so no one can monitor it when others are checking out.

          [–]Unfair_Juice1991 105 points106 points  (22 children)

          If people wouldn't steal shit..

          [–]AsAP0Verlord 48 points49 points  (9 children)

          This is what happens when you have a million Redditors™ talk about how it's fine and good to steal from big corporations... This was an obvious response, I'm surprised something similar hadn't happened sooner. You're right, stealing something from Walmart isn't the end of the world, but eventually Walmart is gonna invest in defending their shit lmao

          [–]AzLibDem 23 points24 points  (2 children)

          Walmart closed it's last stores in Portland a few months ago.

          [–]eaunoway 20 points21 points  (0 children)

          Oh just scroll down the thread a bit more ... Sense Of Entitlement 2023 is here and representing. 😬

          [–]Apprehensive-Dare228 15 points16 points  (0 children)

          On the news report about this, a guy was busy stuffing merchandise into his shirt in broad daylight with the news crew recording him.

          How do you handle thieves SO brazen that they will steal with a news crew watching them? They obviously don't fear arrest/prosecution...

          [–]ThaRealGNo11 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          They should just take a page from Walmart’s book and just close stores that have ridiculous amounts of loss due to theft. Then re open the stores in better neighborhoods.

          [–]StoicJim 21 points22 points  (5 children)

          If you could transport yourself to 100-120 years ago in the U.S. and walk into a grocery store you'd find a counter where all the food was on shelves behind it and clerks who would take your list and retrieve all the items. It was an innovation to have shelves out front to walk down with carts to pick your own items and present them to a cashier at the front of the store.

          [–]Jeff0fthemt 5 points6 points  (2 children)

          That was the original self scan innovation.

          Imagine all the pissed off customers back then complaining they had to pick out their own items.

          [–]FirebreathingNG 20 points21 points  (1 child)

          Think about how high a markup is on all of the items in the store if they can justify even staying open.

          [–]Leelze 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          The pharmacy insurance reimbursements are what make it profitable. The pharmacy accounts for 60-70% (or more) of the business. So think about how much is being stolen on a regular basis if the pharmacy business can't compensate.

          [–]No_Pear_2326 78 points79 points  (4 children)

          If they close the stores, people will accuse them of racism and genocide (keeping people from buying necessities like food).

          But yes, it is really themselves (and the government) they have to blame.

          I remember in the 90's black neighborhoods including my own would call this stuff out and try to come together as a community to improve.

          [–]Chiaseedmess 27 points28 points  (6 children)

          Walgreens and CVS closed several stores in the city because they had so much theft they were hemorrhaging money.

          The city officials then claimed they were closing because they're racist.

          SF is a shithole.

          [–]urnburnturnchurn 15 points16 points  (0 children)

          Similar to Kroger leaving LA because they would have had to give employees "hazard pay" under a new law for working in the stores that experience such a high degree of theft. Easier to just close the shops, they weren't profitable anyway.

          [–]dirk_loyd 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Kept the glass doors, tho.

          [–]Axiproto 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Good, maybe if people stop stealing from them as often, they'd remove the chains.

          [–]stuartgatzo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          If I were Walgreens I’d leave.

          [–]itssohotinthevalley 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          I used to live right by this Walgreens in SF and honestly it’s a miracle they stay open with all the theft. Many Walgreens around the city have been closed down because of this issue….it’s really fucking annoying lol

          [–]BrianActual 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          Crazy how San Francisco went from this sort of ideal city to a 3rd world mess over the course of a few decades.

          [–]A-Rusty-Cow 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Cant lock up the criminals so you might as well lock up the food! Good job California you guys have been killing it!

          [–]CajunChicken14 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Eventually they will close and people will leave.

          A location must be profitable to stay open.

          If your store looks like this it's better just to close and protect your brand image.

          [–]fasteddieg 28 points29 points  (50 children)

          I’m not shocked. Visited San Francisco 4 of the last 7 years for RSA conference. It’s gotten worse each year and I won’t go back. I visited a few Walgreens while I was there in 2022 and they locked up quite a few items. I had to ask an employee to unlock the large bag of candy worth ~$11. When standing in line at one of them, a guy walked out without paying and other customers in line alerted staff. Staff said it was under $1000 so they wouldn’t be prosecuted and thus wouldn’t be arrested. Walking back to my hotel midday, a young guy tried to steal my backpack off my shoulder. Drugged out zombies are standing in awkward positions, others are screaming at someone that doesn’t exist, and I even saw a few pooping on sidewalks for a highlight of the trip, one in broad daylight. San Francisco is a great example of how not to govern.

          [–]Oobaha 80 points81 points  (122 children)

          Hey America, how you doing?

          Walgreens chains up frozen food section to deter theft.

          ...

          Jesus christ.

          [–]TJZ22 32 points33 points  (14 children)

          Thankfully, San Francisco by no means represents the U.S. as a whole. No problems getting groceries at my store (probably because theft isn’t so rampant and unpunished).

          [–]Historical-Method 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Now you just have to find an employee to unlock them for you, good luck with that...

          [–]AddyKat719 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          “ Walgreens company policy is to NOT police shoplifters “

          This must be a San Francisco thing or a California thing. Because I can promise you if you come to a South Carolina Walgreens with that bullsh*t, not only are they having you arrested, but you’re gonna do some time for it and pay a hefty fine as well.

          No wonder they’re being robbed so blatantly, they’re ALLOWING IT.

          [–]Maleficent_Dot6954 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          How are people on the TikTok gonna be able to lick things and put them back for their videos now??

          [–]Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          You should be angry with the thieves.

          [–]WeaverFan420 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          Maybe what should be more infuriating is the thieves causing Walgreens to do this. You reap what you sow.

          [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

          its what happens when you fail to prosecute thieves and petty theft.

          [–]unbelizeable1 9 points10 points  (5 children)

          Egh one of my local 711's does this for beer. Total PITA. Hey so uhhh I know you have a line of 5 people but could you totally neglect them and walk to the back of the store to hand me a beer?