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Hard to be excited about GPU these days. Would have been interesting, at $250.
IF we were in normal times the 6600 would likely be 200 and the 6600xt only 250, :(
I received an email promo from Newegg the other day for a $250 Geforce 1050 ti. I was shocked... That card should be $50. Hell, if things were normal you couldn't even buy one of those new anymore.
Since I finally got my turn on EVGA's waiting list, and getting my e-mail Sep 27th saying they had a card for me to purchase (I'd been on the waiting list program since Oct 2020), anyways I got a RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra.
So I put up a Facebook marketplace listing of my EVGA GTX 1080 SC for $500 or best offer. Picked $500 because that's what they are going for on eBay. Anyways I sold the card today, 1 day after putting the listing up, to a guy for $475.
It's crazy that I was able to sell my card for basically its launch price nearly 6 years later.
Shows how messed up the GPU market is right now.
Although the purchasing power of that 475 has probably gone down significantly. Interesting nonetheless.
I bought a used 1050ti for $150 a week ago.
I bought an HP 1050 Ti without a fan for 74€. Installed an old dual fan Artic cooler on it and it works perfectly.
No it wouldn't. The 5500 XT was 200$, the 6600 XT is a whole tier above. Best price, maybe 320$, as it's faster than RTX 3060 which has msrp of 300$. And these msrps are generally not influenced by scalpers pricing, AMD only priced 6700 XT and 6600 XT 30-50$ higher because of scalpers, but it's nowhere near a 250$ card.
Nah, they'd have never been that cheap. Maybe they'd have slightly lower MSRP, but probably not much more. We could see from the release of Navi 21 that came before the cryptomining boom that AMD fully intended to not really compete on price anymore. Better wafer supply probably wouldn't change things much, either.
In a more ideal world though, we should have been talking like $240 and $300 respectively for them. I think it's reasonable to have something of a price hike since 5 years ago with inflation and more expensive processes and whatnot, but the current situation does suck, even without the extra inflated pricing due to cryptominers.
This will be cheaper to build than RX580.
It's essentially the same die size as the RX580, but instead of GloFo 14nm, they're now using TSMC 7nm. I wouldn't be shocked if the die cost is literally double what it was for the 580. Of course this is a cut down version, so it wouldn't be the full cost difference, but probably still a good chunk more. And then it has GDDR6 over GDDR5. Perhaps if memory prices had actually come down a lot since 2016, it wouldn't be such a big deal, but they sadly haven't.
I'd be very surprised if this was actually cheaper to make than a 580.
TSMC 7nm is now been in volume production for longer than Glofo 14nm was when they built RX580 on it and likely does have better yields than Glofo had. And more importantly, it's a GPU with half the memory bandwidth and half the memory chips of the 8GB RX580, which is lot more important than price per gigabyte because it then significantly simplifies the PCB and cooling.
First of all you yourself know this wont be 250.
Second i would actually pay 350 for this if its at MSRP launch day.Because im starting to believe there wont be a 6500xt or 3050ti except when the next gen cards launch.But i also doubt this will be 350 launch day, so i doubt ill even get that.Maybe rising prices in energy,in the EU will mean that this wont be bought up by miners literally in the first 2 seconds and so i might get 1, but i doubt it.
I just want to play Warzone and my rx 570 4gb cant really do that, it looks very bad.So its fine.Ill prob keep this for a few years and then sell it for 100 euro and add 150-200 more and get a normal card when prices come down and im willing to take this kind of hit.
Warzone runs fine on my 570 4gb yeah it’s low settings but I get around 100fps and people play on low anyway
Yeah, this doesnt happen for me, its about 60-70 fps most of the time. I have a 3400g, what cpu do you have?
I have a 3600 I had a 3200g and warzone was always at 100% usage
You mean you had 100 fps with the 3200g as well?
You should be able to play Warzone at 1080p/60fps with a mix of Medium and High settings just fine on a 4GB 570. This will not look 'very bad' compared to using higher settings or anything.
I tried it, its really with mostly to low and everything in the distance looks like half life 1.Its very blurry and its because i dont have enough vram.
Id get the 6500xt if it had 8gb but it doesnt exist at all.
I mean, I can find a number of videos on Youtube showing you absolutely can do this with the 570 4GB. I looked it up before making my comment.
You're doing something wrong.
I get about 60-70 but it looks horrendously bad, and yes, i let shader packs install.Well, only 1 shader pack, it only shows 1 shader pack installing.Are there more?
The AMD 6000 series feels like the Nvidia RTX 2000 series.
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It would've been interesting... at $800?
250 dollar gpus won't exist. You won't be able to get an rx6600xt at msrp. Msrp is gonna be 800 dollars
You replied to a comment without reading it I guess. OP said th 6600 would've been interesting at 250, you said try 800.
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I expect it to be 329 so that AMD can claim they have "budget" options and that they have the cheapest GPU available in this generation - which they would technically have even thou MSRPs are imaginary at this point...
Not that MSRP makes any difference these days.
But this really needs to be priced below the 3060. It offers similair performance, less in RT and has less features. Aswell as less VRAM.
In a normal market this card would have been 250-270$-ish. But since the market is fucked AMD will just prices it the same as the 3060 and the scalped prices will be over 400$ anyways.
The 6600 XT is already priced lower than the 3060, you mean it needs to be priced below the 6600 XT?
379 vs 329. it's priced 20$ below the 3060 tie, but the 3060 tie is definitely worth the 20 bux
That's the AMD/NVIDIA supposed MSRP. If you look at local pricing all around the world, 6600 XTs are priced cheaper than 3060s.
Here's the thing, Nvidia's MSRPs are fake. 3060 Tis are much more expensive than $20 above the 6600 XTs. And the gap between the 3060 and the 6600 XT is not 379 vs 329, it's 450 vs 700 so the gap is bigger and in the opposite way.
I bought a 3060 for 320 from EVGA. The cheapest 6600xt I have ever seen was at Microcenter for 560 dollars.
Depends on where you live, I suppose. Here in England, plenty of 6600 XTs could be found between £370 and £470 or somewhere around that. I got my XFX Merc 308 6600 XT for £370, including shipping.
It depends on region, I got a founders 3060Ti here in the UK at MSRP, they were coming up pretty much every week. Also here its cheaper to buy a 3080 than a 6800XT as an example. LHR Helped a fair bit alongside electricity cost increases etc but it really depends where you are as some regions are totally flipped.
Both 3060 and 3060 tie are cheaper here than 6600 xt. 6600 xt is more expensive than AMD direct 6800. AMD AIBs are the biggest scalpers, there's no ref 6600 xt, and I haven't seen any anywhere near 379 Americano
Most do not and will not have access to 3060s and definitely not 3060 Tis that are under £650/$700, most have access to 6600 XTs that are under £450/$500.
I actually think this is a GPU worth being very excited about. Depending upon availability, this could be the most important GPU release this year. It is worth remembering that the 6600XT had pretty good availability, particularly in Europe, Australia and the UK.
This card should represent close to 2X performance of a RX580, which is a huge uplift for those holding to their RX580 or 1060.
As for the price, my advice is to buy it early. Buy in the first 5 minutes. That is how I got a 6600XT for 400€.
2x the performance for 2x the msrp is not exactly an improvement, also considering that the actual price will be even higher.
The RX580 had a MSRP of $229. The MSRP of the 6600 won't be $458. It will most likely be $329 or lower. As for how to get it at a decent price, I have already outlined: buy it early.
Besides, owners of RX580s are sitting on top of $400-450 (value of a RX580 to miners), and could get an upgrade to the 6600 pretty much for free, provided that they are fast enough.
That's the problem, it's not that easy to be quick and there will be low availability anyway. Only a few will be able to get the free upgrade (selling the 580), the others will pay scalper prices. Unless the situation improves of course, or they manage to produce a lot of 6600 somehow.
Yes. I mean, people selling their RX580s are scalping as well to begin with. In a normal scenario, a 4-year old card that cost $229 back in the day should be worth almost nothing nowadays. Maybe $60 at most. However, people can sell it for $400+. That is just insane.
Even if a 6600 cost like a lot more than it should, say $599, and people had to put $199 on top of their 580 money to pay for it, we talking about an insane value here, unheard of before 2021.
Though once again, if they are fast enough, they can get it for free, which is an upgrade beyond words. 2X performance, almost 100 less watts, fresh new warranty, zero dollars. I hope people who have a 580 right now are aware of that.
Got my XFX 6600 XT for £370 including shipping.
£370 equals 435€, so I still paid less, haha.
In any event, that is a fantastic deal. A lot of people wish they had paid this little for the card, though they just slept on the price during first few days amidst negative reviews and criticisms. When they finally came to the conclusion the 6600XT is, despite its shortcomings, the best deal in the GPU market this year, the price had gone up by ~100 bucks.
Yeah, pretty unfortunate. There seemed to be plenty of those cards as I was looking around, too. So many under £400, and well-stocked and available for purchase! Almost seemed too good to be true.
Doubt there will be great availability.Maybe the first day it will 1/4 what the 6600xt was-probably less.Beyond that you'll probably not see it again.Like the 3300x its just a faulty 6600xt that gets downgraded to a 6600 so they can sell it, like the 3300x was a faulty 3600.So AMD will sell 6600xt if they can for full price, and only trickle down the faulty ones which wont be many.
Solid argument, but I think right now that is a 50/50 likelihood. The counter-argument is that Nvidia is still making lots of 3060Tis, despite the fact it is a faulty 3070, which in itself is a faulty 3070Ti. Anyway, it all comes down to manufacturing, and I don't believe we have solid information on that, other than AMD stating that Navi 23 can be much easier to mass produce.
In any event though, I think that people shopping for GPUs in 2021, and particularly those in a tight budget, should aim for the first batch, to guarantee both availability and reasoable prices. First batch or bust.
Yes,but i doubt that there will be good prices,even on the first day-they may be ofc, but i dubt it.This seems to mine just as good as the 6600xt so miners will want this card.The only saving grace related to mining is that energy prices in the EU have skyrocketed so mining may have become less profitable, at least here, in the EU.
After months of unsuccessful attempts at getting 3060ti and 3070ti...
I'm saddened to say that I might actually buy this. 6600XT was available for a few weeks somewhat close to MSRP. Didn't buy it cause it was shit value, but wtf do I know. Everything is shit right now.
With all the card prices being sky-high, it was basically best bang for your buck in terms of being able to actually buy a GPU direct from a retailer.
Yeah, I thought maybe I could get lucky on an Nvidia gpu. Some of them are dropping close to MSRP. Sadly, I only have 0.0001 sec before bots snatch them up.
I've given up now. I'll buy this GPU and be done with it
RT perf is not bad at all. 132W is really good................for mining
RT performance is not that bad because all of the games in the list have very light RT effects compared to other games with RT.
When games with heavy RT effects like Watch Dogs : Legion or Cyberpunk 2077 is used , performance will drop badly if I have to guess .
Eh, any miner worth his salt will drop the core clock, voltage and power limit since core speed isn't too important. It will probably have mining value identical to the XT unless AMD throws in a stupid low memory clock limit in the driver to artificially segment the two
Yea, it will cost less, mine the same and use like 5w less power than the xt so yea pretty attractive.
When they sould be avalaible on AMD site?
Only AIB models, no reference card, so will not be on AMD's shop.
Curious how it plays out against a RX480 , for price comparison the model i have was about $270 near launch (8GB Gaming X from MSI)
Somewhere near 2x the performance, considering the 6600 XT already manages that.
And it sold out..................
In a year when supply is decent, and these are in a price war with the RTX 3060 this could be a great little GPU.
What gives you the impression that supply will be fixed in a year? Or are you referring to this card specifically? Personally, I don't see the GPU market (prices or supply issues) changing for quite some time. Certainly not in a year.
They didn’t say it would be fixed in a year, they said that if this was to be released in a year (at a time) when supply is decent then this could compete with the 3060 in a healthy market.
PC for gaming has become a joke right now, GPU's totally killing the Gaming pc market.
Trades blows with RTX 3060 but more expensive. Explain why anyone would want this card?
Its the only one in stock? Besides, amd can simply drop $80 off its price once stock fixes itself. No big deal.
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6600 xt is way more expensive than 3060s and 3060 ties whenever they're in stock here. It's even more expensive than the 6800 from amd direct. AMD AIBs are the scalpers.
Here in the UK for example there's really only one 3060 model even close to the cheapest 6600XT in price and it's £60 more expensive. And that's really the best it gets - the most expensive 6600XT is £499 whilst the most expensive 3060 is over £650.
At the very least out here the 6600XT has been unmatched in value, even if it's still not very good value overall.
Why are you getting downvoted? Just because you live in a different country where AMD cards are overpriced doesn't mean your wrong?
Why do you think it will be more expensive? Because of the MSRP? How many 3060's have you found at MSRP.
6600 more expensive than the 3060? In what world is that? Not even the 6600XT is more expensive than the 3060.
AMD is the future, their driver support is better, and when FSR take off, NVIDIA will eat dust like intel
I'm just hoping consoles keep fucking with PC gaming, and it ends up a positive for once via FSR.
I strongly believe in amd.
Don't get ahead of yourselves boys this is gonna cost 1000 dollars
There are more than 20 currencies called "dollar". In some of them, this card might hit the 4-digit figure indeed.
It's gonna be bad. In reality I would like it to be 250 but those days don't exist anymore
So, about 5 frames a second in Cyberpunk with ray tracing?
Miners takes them.
Is it gonna be better than the 1660 super
About 50% better.
I'm mostly an nVidia gear head, got my 3000 series card via evga queue. What's the typical way to toss one's hat into the ring to get a chance at a new model Radeon card like this 6600 non XT?
I'm confused didn't this card already come out?
Recommended Battlefield 2042 pc requirements in 2021, what… only a $300 plus dollar graphics card (3060ti) sweet 😌
Well I expect it to get the cheeky price of 329 (to be 1$ under the 3060) and in that case it would be an acceptable deal (not really a good one but the 3060 ain't a good deal either).
So hard to get excited for a GPU launch in the current situation when cards cost 2.5-4x MSRP (at least here).
no MSRP leaks? 299$?
Up on newegg for $459 lol https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-6600-11310-01-20g/p/N82E16814202409?
Not much different than 5500XT 8GB version, less power consumption but more expensive?