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[–]ParmesanB 1426 points1427 points  (117 children)

What about emergency medical care/general emergency services? I guess what I’m asking is— how far are you from a city/town? Do you have any concerns for your safety, should there be an accident or medical emergency?

[–]millijuna 1120 points1121 points  (23 children)

Some friends of mine have property on a rural island on the west coast. In the end, to address this kind of thing, they and the neighbours built a helipad that was accessible. They worked with the local air ambulance to ensure it was actually usable.

[–]RaspberryRock[S] 688 points689 points  (15 children)

That’s actually a neat idea.

[–]undeadeater 51 points52 points  (4 children)

Can comment i lived on a farm in a remote area we also had it worked out for a helicopter to land if necessary

[–]ThatMortalGuy 148 points149 points  (2 children)

Do you carry any kind of satellite SOS beacon?

[–]RaspberryRock[S] 111 points112 points  (1 child)

Nope. Just a cellphone.

[–]RaspberryRock[S] 1595 points1596 points  (88 children)

About 30 minutes to get to my car by ATV. Then a little under an hour to get to a town that has a hospital. Sure I have concerns, but you can’t let that rule your life. You could get hit by a car tomorrow. Another guy who has a cabin out here fell off a tower he was working on, bounced off the roof of his cabin then fell to the ground. Emergency … I forget what service, sent out a team by Argo to get him. I imagine if it was serious enough they’d send a chopper. It’s also important to always carry your cellphone out here.

[–]darwinsidiotcousin 455 points456 points  (34 children)

They're kinda pricy (like 500 USD) but Garmin makes little GPS units that you can link to your phone and it'll hijack your phone GPS so you can send text messages through it connect to a satellite network and send a message in an emergency (I don't have a great grasp on how telecomm systems work) They also have an SOS button and if I hit that the Coast Guard will send a chopper looking for me.

Probably something you're already aware of but maybe someone else in this thread might find it useful. I work in the California mountains so it gives me some peace of mind when I'm miles from a car or cell service

[–]azidesandamides 105 points106 points  (10 children)

[–]Bitani 129 points130 points  (6 children)

Important to note iPhone SOS is not nearly as useful as a Garmin. No two-way texting and it uses less reliable satellites especially if you are not in the Lower 48.

[–]ThatMortalGuy 48 points49 points  (2 children)

Plus the chances of running out of battery on your iPhone are higher then on this unit that you only use when you need it so it's always on standby mode (unless you are using it for tracking but the battery can last for a long time)

[–]ParmesanB 250 points251 points  (20 children)

Appreciate the answer! I totally agree, can’t live your life in fear, I think what you’re doing is very cool. Just interested in how other people assess risk in this type of situation.

[–]RaspberryRock[S] 285 points286 points  (17 children)

LOL “don’t think about it.” Is probably not the best answer.

[–]upstateduck 142 points143 points  (5 children)

1 1/2 hours from civilization and your cellphone works? Shit, I am 10 minutes from the mall with no cellphone coverage [our house is in a low spot near a creek and no line of sight to a tower]

I admit, my old flip phone had a powerful enough receiver/transmitter that it worked here. "Smart" phones do lots of other functions but are worse phones

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

New phone radio bands have higher throughput for data but the range is diminished compared to old bands. It's similar to AM vs FM radio where FM is clearer but has lower range. The older phones could not carry as much data as quickly but you didn't have to be nearly as close to the towers as you do now.

[–]supern00b64 417 points418 points  (12 children)

It seems that you still have to pay some expenses such as taxes and starlink. How are you able to pay this? Is youtube revenue sufficient?

[–]RaspberryRock[S] 642 points643 points  (10 children)

Yes, while living like this is cheap by today's standards, there are still things I have to pay for. Someone asked about youtube revenue and I put it like this: There are a lot of potential revenue streams, but if you just look at ads that play around my videos, then I made about $43k CAD in 2022.

[–]analog_alison 225 points226 points  (4 children)

Related Q: did you pre-plan for YouTube to be a source of income for you, or did it just kind of happen once you made the move?

[–]RaspberryRock[S] 547 points548 points  (3 children)

It was in the back of my mind while building the cabin. That’s why my first 12 videos are just me walking around with my cellphone camera at the end of the day. Those videos were mainly for my wife so I could prove I wasn’t just sitting at some bar drinking. When I did start really working on my youtube it was for 2 reasons: 1) build up another income for when my wife retires and 2) I just couldn’t not share the beauty of this area.

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (1 child)

Thanks for allowing us into your life and mind so neat and you have an amazing wife for supporting this dream and spending time away from you I know that’s so challenging.

[–]TrustedDust 758 points759 points  (131 children)

What is the scariest thing that has happened to you while being alone?

[–]RaspberryRock[S] 2169 points2170 points  (130 children)

I was scouting the property north of me looking for elk sign, and using my phone as a GPS. It was heavily overcast. I got turned around 3 times trying to get back home, and my phone battery was showing 5%.... 4%.....3%.... 2%.... at 1% I came across a familiar part of my property. I was shitting a small brick. Also, it was starting to get dark.

[–]marsten 919 points920 points  (55 children)

Funny to think your property is so large you can get legitimately lost on it.

[–]RaspberryRock[S] 1048 points1049 points  (31 children)

What's really weird is that you can walk through an area, totally familiarize yourself with everything you're seeing, but when you turn around and look the way you came, everything looks completely different.

[–]lannister80 229 points230 points  (7 children)

When you are traveling through the wilderness, it's recommended to turn around and look backwards pretty frequently, so you familiarize yourself with what the route back looks like.

[–]RaspberryRock[S] 152 points153 points  (4 children)

Yes, I learned that one in the mid-90's when I was spelunking in Tennessee.

[–]_neiger_ 130 points131 points  (11 children)

It reminds me of the time where I navigated myself back to the cabin at night...while drunk

[–]RaspberryRock[S] 252 points253 points  (10 children)

That's a good way to die out here.

[–]Shotgun5250 320 points321 points  (15 children)

It’s super easy to get lost in the woods. Don’t need more than a dozen acres, maybe less depending on how far you are from highway noise, density of shrubbery etc.

[–]RaspberryRock[S] 233 points234 points  (4 children)

You're right. You don't need a huge property. I was looking for 100 acres, but I could have gone for less.

[–]Shotgun5250 113 points114 points  (3 children)

My grandparents have 220 acres in south GA that’s primarily used for agriculture, but it has pretty dense hardwoods along the creek/swamp that borders the property. Maybe 40 acres of it is wooded like that. I can tell you, even after living and hunting there for a long time, I’ll still get turned around in the dark when I’m tracking a deer or checking cameras. It can happen even when you’re somewhere you’re familiar, and most people take that for granted.

[–]RaspberryRock[S] 105 points106 points  (2 children)

Oh yeah, I've been no more than 50m from the cabin at night and got lost. Just off my ATV trail, in fact. Everything looks different at night!

[–]NYPDBLUE 123 points124 points  (1 child)

I think it’s less that his property is so large it’s that there is nothing else around it to identify things no hiking trails or stuff, just woods. No other houses or lights.

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    [–]midgetsinheaven 161 points162 points  (29 children)

    Maybe it'd be smart to pack a battery bank with you when you're out. I take one with me when I go to my friend's farm as I know I won't find a close place to charge my phone. I can get 4 full charges out of it.

    [–]RaspberryRock[S] 223 points224 points  (28 children)

    I tend to walk out of my cabin the same way you’d walk out of your house. I never think to bring a compass, fire starter, medical bag, water bottle, snacks, etc. But I will if I remember.

    [–]VenerableShrew 138 points139 points  (11 children)

    Maybe a fanny pack with some essentials would be a good idea as a daily carry.

    [–]mini4x 67 points68 points  (4 children)

    You should have a "go" bag, small backpack with all the essentials, that you basically never leave the house without.

    [–]PeanutSalsa 484 points485 points  (88 children)

    Who did you buy the 180 acres of land from and how did you learn it was up for sale?

    [–]RaspberryRock[S] 664 points665 points  (86 children)

    I don't know who it was. But if my memory is correct, he lives in Sarnia, Ontario. It's a heck of a long drive to there. Also, he bought it from someone unseen, having been told he could build his dream cottage here one day. Which you can't. No legal access.

    I sat on realtor dot ca and kijiji for months just watching properties pop up. It's a real patience game.

    [–]PeanutSalsa 290 points291 points  (77 children)

    Why couldn't he build a cottage but you could build a cabin?

    [–]RaspberryRock[S] 628 points629 points  (76 children)

    I could only prove I had water access to the property. Under the guidelines, I could only build a 'hunt camp'. The rules are pretty lax on what a hunt camp is, but it has to be under 800sq ft.

    [–]jroomey 361 points362 points  (9 children)

    A high wizard tower could work then

    [–]MrYogiMan 52 points53 points  (47 children)

    Can you build two of them?

    [–]RaspberryRock[S] 145 points146 points  (46 children)

    Going through the municipal regs, it says I can’t.

    [–]Bralzor 73 points74 points  (12 children)

    Could you split it up into two properties and build one on each?

    [–]RaspberryRock[S] 138 points139 points  (2 children)

    I suppose I could. Hadn’t thought of that. I wonder how much it costs to do that.

    [–]TheAmorphous 151 points152 points  (8 children)

    Split it into four. One 800sf "cabin" on each corner. They just happen to not have four walls each. Boom, 3200sf house.

    [–]hippoofdoom 33 points34 points  (0 children)

    Or just have a meal prep /living space pod and then a bathroom /sleeping pod.

    [–]Calculonx 82 points83 points  (16 children)

    What about just sticking wheels on the side and calling it a camper/trailer. ... And really, on 180 acres do people actually check or care?

    [–]RaspberryRock[S] 180 points181 points  (6 children)

    My plan B was to put a boat on the pond and live in that. No regs on that sort of thing. But practically speaking, no one cares.

    [–]randzy 872 points873 points  (89 children)

    I saw you said your wife lives in the city, only coming down on weekends. How does that work? Just curious as My wife and I couldn't imagine spending only weekends together.

    [–]RaspberryRock[S] 1199 points1200 points  (67 children)

    It’s not something we planned, it just happened. But we do talk every night on the phone. We’ve also been married 28 years, if that makes a difference.

    [–]dropkickoz 625 points626 points  (4 children)

    At 30 years you have to swap homes.

    [–]AnapleRed 224 points225 points  (52 children)

    Was there any serious contemplation from your wife to go with you? Or you not going because of her? Ooooor, was it clear from the get go you're gonna start living separately? Assuming you lived together before.

    I dunno why but now I'm most fascinated by this :D

    [–]RaspberryRock[S] 446 points447 points  (50 children)

    As I said earlier, we didn’t plan for this to happen. But she has a government job and is eligible for early retirement pension. She can’t turn that down.

    [–][deleted] 424 points425 points  (36 children)

    What do you mean "you didn't plan for this to happen"? Did you suddenly end up in the woods? Could it not wait out her pension clearing?

    Not judging, it clearly works for you both but just curious.

    Edit: a lot of you went straight to judging.

    [–]C2D2 85 points86 points  (0 children)

    Likely using his better / capable years to build their retirement fortress, and his full-time job is off-grid living YouTube videos.

    [–]AnapleRed 208 points209 points  (14 children)

    This caught my eye too and I feel there's something left unsaid there. Not that this person owes us an explanation

    [–]Feral0_o 49 points50 points  (2 children)

    enchanted by a Canadian dryad, no doubt

    [–]alwaysmyfault 219 points220 points  (25 children)

    What's the hardest part about enduring winters off grid?

    [–]RaspberryRock[S] 380 points381 points  (23 children)

    Not much. I like winters here. I suppose getting enough firewood prepared.

    [–]magicblufairy 56 points57 points  (3 children)

    I honestly would prefer winter. I'm from Ottawa so I can do cold.

    Can't do bugs. Nopity nope.

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      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 85 points86 points  (4 children)

      You can see more about it here: https://youtu.be/b2gOy1162vE. I have since added 2 x 10kWh LiFePo4 battery systems. I use wood for heat. I have a generator to help through the winter months.

      [–]marsten 43 points44 points  (8 children)

      Do you cut your own firewood, at your property? Will your 180 acres supply you with firewood indefinitely? (I.e., trees grow back as fast as you harvest them)

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 155 points156 points  (6 children)

      Yes definitely an infinite supply of firewood out here. The last few years I’ve been taking the trees that the beavers take down.

      [–]upstateduck 66 points67 points  (4 children)

      nice

      One thing I remember from one of the Alaska homestead shows is the practice of girdling trees and leaving them standing for a couple of years to dry before harvesting for firewood.

      Each fall they would girdle some and harvest some to keep a supply ready

      [–]ThatMortalGuy 23 points24 points  (0 children)

      That's smart, a good way to let the wood dry out.

      [–]yungloser 403 points404 points  (75 children)

      Do you also grow/hunt/catch your own food? If so what type of animals and vegetables are available to you?

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 691 points692 points  (73 children)

      I do hunt. There are deer, elk, bear in the area. Also, lots of grouse around. Though I never seem to have my gun when I see one. The soil around here is really really bad for growing vegetables. Last year I brought in pots and bags of soil from town, did much better with those. Always looking to improve.

      [–]BabyBearLuvsPapaBear 263 points264 points  (26 children)

      You can build a nice vegetable/ fruit garden by building one with wood! Lay down the foundation of thick plywood and the black bag kinda thing that you put down before putting soil on top... and then using large boards, frame it out, with sections for whatever you want to plant in that row (for example: carrots, celery and tomatoes). Make it deep and wide though, probably 3 to 4 feet deep.

      Do you make your own compost? If not, it's easy to do and will help you grow the tastiest fruits and veggies and the biggest/healthiest ones too!

      I loved horticulture in college and I love to garden, so these are just a couple tips from an old country gal

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 196 points197 points  (24 children)

      Sure, there are lots of ways to do it. It’s just work is all. We do compost.

      [–]PrimeTB 76 points77 points  (6 children)

      How much work is living there for you? You probably don’t need to work all day every day since you also have a youtube channel. How many days a week do you spend on upkeep and maintenance?

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 96 points97 points  (5 children)

      Very little needed on upkeep and maintenance, but the cabin is fairly new. There isn't really that much work.

      [–]iEngineer9 65 points66 points  (2 children)

      I saw on another comment you used to live in the city. Did you have a typical job back then? Would you say it helped prepare you for building your own cabin in the wilderness, or was it unrelated and you just followed your dreams learning as you went?

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 125 points126 points  (1 child)

      I worked in the IT industry for 20 years. More recently I co-owned a solar power company with a buddy. Certainly that has helped. But no building experience.

      [–]mrgtiguy 291 points292 points  (40 children)

      What does 61k in subscribers pay?

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 691 points692 points  (39 children)

      Well first, # of subscribers doesn't mean much.

      Also, anyone doing what I do has many revenue streams. Stuff like merch, maybe podcasts, etc. If you want to just look at revenue from ads playing on videos + youtube premium, then about $43k CAD in 2022.

      [–]Starlordy- 216 points217 points  (19 children)

      That seems pretty decent, I imagine you have high watch through rates.

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 505 points506 points  (18 children)

      Winter time videos do extra well. People love snow and the adversity it causes.

      [–]BabyBearLuvsPapaBear 75 points76 points  (15 children)

      I'm so jealous! I love snow! But here in North Carolina we don't get much 😪

      [–]blackhp2 130 points131 points  (9 children)

      whoa thanks for that transparency!

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 154 points155 points  (8 children)

      I’m pretty open about stuff like that.

      [–]NebulaNinja 53 points54 points  (1 child)

      I just checked out your most popular video and was impressed with the drone footage in the winter storm.

      What drone do you fly? And were there any problems with the internal components of the drone from flying in such poor conditions?

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 100 points101 points  (0 children)

      I believe that was my old drone, a DJI Mavic Pro. I definitely fly it in conditions you’re not supposed to. It was fine after that flight, although I almost didn’t it back, it was very windy. I’ve crashed it 6 or 7 times, so it’s got some … ‘character’ to its flight,.

      [–]nith_wct 80 points81 points  (5 children)

      I bet I could find a good number of dead channels with 1M+ subs getting fewer viewers than you, and putting out fewer videos than you. It's really one of the least important or most misleading stats.

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 96 points97 points  (3 children)

      I know a channel that has 150k subs and gets about 1k views on his videos. It really is misleading.

      [–]Tidris 104 points105 points  (45 children)

      Favorite books?

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 284 points285 points  (44 children)

      Neurmancer, Ringworld series, Wheel of Time series

      [–]Leptosoul 22 points23 points  (5 children)

      Ringworld! Hell yeah! I'll never forget reading the ending to Engineers for the first time :)

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 15 points16 points  (4 children)

      Fantastic series. “The Ringworld is unstable! The Ringworld is unstable! Did the best that he was able and that’s good enough for us!

      [–]grimvox 42 points43 points  (0 children)

      Taishar Wolf brother!

      [–]LAST_NIGHT_WAS_WEIRD 87 points88 points  (7 children)

      Where did you live before going off grid? Do you ever feel isolated/bored/lonely?

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 127 points128 points  (6 children)

      I used to live in Richmond Hill, Ontario. I never feel bored or isolated here. I love it.

      [–]bessonguy 15 points16 points  (3 children)

      Do you miss Markham Chinese food?

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 30 points31 points  (2 children)

      I do miss Chinese food. Don’t remember the last time I had it.

      [–]LAST_NIGHT_WAS_WEIRD 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      I currently live in a rural town after 10+ years in NYC. The things I miss most about NYC are coffee, cocktails, and food. Have learned to make (a version) of almost everything I miss, including Chinese food. Get a wok, some peanut oil, and start googling recipes. You’ll be surprised how close you can get to the real deal!

      [–]michaeltheobnoxious 35 points36 points  (6 children)

      I've not had the chance to look it your material yet, but what's the minimum viable landholding you think would support a family of 5?

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 34 points35 points  (5 children)

      Can you be more specific on what you want to do? Like, do you want to homestead? How old are your kids?

      [–]michaeltheobnoxious 30 points31 points  (4 children)

      I'd be interested in Off-Grid + Permaculture, with acknowledgements given to naivety and impossibility!

      Happy to grow food and tend livestock, but know that I'll likely need to supplement our diets with grocery shopping in places. The kids are teens; to be honest, it's less likely I'll commit to Off-Grid until they can consciously choose to go / not go for themselves.

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 49 points50 points  (2 children)

      With the complications of teenage kids, you might want to make a midway step before you get your final off grid place.

      [–]OnlineShoppingWhore 40 points41 points  (5 children)

      What inspired you to take up this lifestyle? Do you ever feel lonely and how often do you visit family (other than your wife) / friends?

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 62 points63 points  (4 children)

      I really wanted to get away from city life. I don’t get lonely, lots of people to interact with over the internet. I don’t have any family aside from my mom that I want to see.

      [–]OnlineShoppingWhore 25 points26 points  (1 child)

      May I ask how old you are? Also, what about vegetables and fruits, since you mentioned they're hard to grow? Cheers for the answers! I wish you well. 🫂

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

      I turn 54 this year. I go to the grocery store as often as everyone else.

      [–]Karefree2 13 points14 points  (1 child)

      Not … your kids?

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

      Yup you got me there. I love seeing my kids and grandkids.

      [–]PeanutSalsa 146 points147 points  (19 children)

      What is your investment in solar power that pays an annuity all about? Is this how you get electricity or are you connected to a power plant? How about water and gas?

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 239 points240 points  (18 children)

      In Ontario for a while they had a program where you could install solar panels at your residence or on a commercial building and sell the electricity back to the grid. In the beginning the rates they were paying were very good. My business partner got it on one big one.

      [–][deleted] 77 points78 points  (9 children)

      Unreal so you are connected the the electrical grid but as a producer

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 182 points183 points  (7 children)

      I guess, but it’s not my property. Heh. I rent a barn roof at a chicken farm.

      [–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (6 children)

      Oh I thought the panels were on your off grid property. My bad

      [–][deleted] 112 points113 points  (6 children)

      Are your family members okay with this idea of you living off-grid? Do they support you or you've had a hard time explaining them?

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 208 points209 points  (5 children)

      My kids are fine with it (they’re all adults now). My wife is fine with it. One day she’ll live here full time too.

      [–]cranberrydudz 67 points68 points  (16 children)

      Have you had the need/desire for government services again? Like water and trash services or sewage issues?

      [–]RaspberryRock[S] 157 points158 points  (13 children)

      Heck yeah. I’d love running water and flush toilets. In fact, a lot of places you can dig a well, put in a septic system, and still be technically off grid. I’d do it in a heart beat if I could. But I’m right on bedrock. It’s the great Canadian Shield.

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        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 56 points57 points  (0 children)

        Or some explody things. Thanks!

        [–]AllThotsGo2Heaven2 28 points29 points  (2 children)

        How did you transport the materials for building the cabin, and the other supplies you need for daily living? Seems like it would take a lot of trips with an ATV

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 59 points60 points  (1 child)

        Hauled everything by ATV. Can I put a picture here? https://i.imgur.com/TGtS9oG.jpeg

        [–]sleepyhead2929 87 points88 points  (16 children)

        1) biggest challenges? 2) how self-sufficient in food are you? 3) do you live with someone /people or alone 4) do you know about permaculture?

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 142 points143 points  (15 children)

        1. My own mental state. I suffer bad from lack of motivation.
        2. Not very. I certainly could be, the resources are here, but like, for ex: it’s hard to grow smoked salmon
        3. Two dogs. I’m also married, but my wife lives and works in the city. She comes out on weekends.
        4. I do.

        [–]hurtsdonut_ 69 points70 points  (8 children)

        Silly you. You catch salmon you don't grow them.

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 193 points194 points  (5 children)

        I’m going to send back this salmon tree I got from Amazon.

        [–]PeanutSalsa 123 points124 points  (43 children)

        How much did the 180 acres of land cost you? Where about in Ontario is it or rather how far is it from any populated area?

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 240 points241 points  (42 children)

        I got it for $35k. It would be worth a lot more now, because of the covid thing, people moving away from the cities. The previous owner didn't think he could get a building permit, and it was just junk land to him. I'm in Eastern Ontario, not far from Madoc.

        [–]skinrust 25 points26 points  (4 children)

        I’ve had an eye out for land in that area. Problem is I’m a plumber, I need to be somewhat close to a population centre. And I’ve got a wife and kids, we need a lot that can be legally built on. Was thinking Norwood area, tho I’ve also been looking around Perth and up by pembroke. I’ve had several tabs on realtor open for the past 3 years lol.

        I’d like to build an off grid earth bermed house. Off grid expect for internet. It’s gorgeous country out that way. I can’t imagine getting 180 acres for 35k. It’s unheard of now.

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 79 points80 points  (3 children)

        I would look about 5 mins north of Norwood, Marmora, Havelock. Some really nice area. Don’t bother with earth bearmed house, yurt, earth ship, shipping container, or any other weird house. Just build a normal house. The novelty of all that other crap wears off fast.

        [–]skinrust 23 points24 points  (2 children)

        At the very least I want to build with icf. My mother lives in one built in the 90’s. It’s a big house on the shore of Lake Huron. Crazy windy, nasty winters (normally). You can throw a couple logs on the wood stove and it stays warm most of the day. It’s often too hot, she has to open windows. My point being that traditionally built homes can’t achieve that kind of efficiency. My current house is cold, even with the wood stove roaring everyday. It a poorly built cottage, but still.

        I’ve seen some properties come and go a few minutes outside of Norwood/havelock. I was hoping to find something under 200k but that ship may have sailed. I think there’s one there right now for 250 or 300.

        I’m heading up to Ottawa in a few days, maybe I’ll check it out. Sorry for rambling, it’s how I think

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

        My buddy has built a few homes with ICF. I think current codes call for 24” of insulation in outer walls. That’s pretty good.

        [–]MultiPanhandler 74 points75 points  (25 children)

        Interestingly, if you have 180 acres of land, and it's somewhat in the wilderness of Eastern Ontario, and you don't actually want to connect to utilities, the permit thing kinda goes away ;)

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 124 points125 points  (22 children)

        Yeah I hear you. But if they find out, they can order the cabin demolished, they can even take your land away from you.

        [–]ASK_IF_IM_PENGUIN[🍰] 123 points124 points  (10 children)

        Something like that happened in the UK.

        A few years back a farmer built a house hidden by hay bales, hiding it for four years. He was hoping that the time gap (during which it was occupied) would mean that he didn't need planning permission. In other words, because he'd been using it and as nobody objected, planning permission would become irrelevant.

        The council found out about the house when he took the bales down, and told him the four year rule didn't apply because as nobody could see the house they didn't know to object. They told him to knock it down.

        He appealed to the high court. The high court agreed, and he had to knock it down.

        [–]SOSOBOSO 32 points33 points  (0 children)

        If I recall, his kid drew the view from the house and the teacher was like "WTF is with all these hay bales?" Then people started looking into it.

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 85 points86 points  (3 children)

        There’s always a ‘chance’ you can get away with something like that, but also a chance you might lose. And most people can’t afford a lawyer to fight a battle like that. And municipalities can afford lawyers because it’s our money.

        [–]SonOfMcGee 56 points57 points  (13 children)

        Have you heard about the housing development outside Scottsdale, Arizona that was slyly built off the water grid to avoid municipal taxes, yet they just buy trucks of water from the city to fill up personal tanks, and now that the city decided not to sell their tap water to anyone the development is shit out of luck?
        Is there anything you can think of think of that you are off the grid for, yet nonetheless dependent on a grid somewhere for?

        [–]Med_sized_Lebowski 41 points42 points  (1 child)

        OP is connected to the internet, the biggest grid of 'em all. Still, I agree with OP's definition of Off Grid.

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 30 points31 points  (2 children)

        That’s odd. Here it wouldn’t matter where you get your water from, the taxes you pay are assessed from whatever they think your property is valued at.

        [–]SonOfMcGee 23 points24 points  (0 children)

        I think the point is that the housing developments were technically unincorporated such that they didn’t pay any tax to the city at all, property or otherwise. And the biggest consequence was not being on the city water grid (in a damn desert where you can’t easily dig a well).
        Very much a have your cake and eat it too situation, as they tried to live like a suburb of the city without technically being part of it.

        [–]Zomgirlxoxo 25 points26 points  (3 children)

        What’s your doggos name? :)

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 41 points42 points  (2 children)

        Willow and Junebug. Willow is the German shepherd.

        [–]TelephoneTag2123 92 points93 points  (9 children)

        I really like what you are doing and hope you’re living a good life of your own construction!

        What’s your medical situation? Are you medically trained if something goes sideways?

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 134 points135 points  (8 children)

        Thanks! My medical situation is not great. I have issues with Atrial Fibrillation. It’s not debilitating, if I go into A-fib I can drive to the nearest hospital. But I can do most of what needs to be done around here.

        [–]Fatherofmedicine2k 35 points36 points  (7 children)

        how frequently you have to visit a nearby city or town to get your Beta Blockers?

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 82 points83 points  (6 children)

        All the little towns around have pharmacies, they’re pretty easy to get. But I had the ablation procedure back in September and now I’m off them. Nice.

        [–]Fatherofmedicine2k 22 points23 points  (5 children)

        you don't take prophylactic doses? how is your AF currently? or if you have any other new cardiovascular diseases

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 49 points50 points  (4 children)

        After the ablation, I haven’t had a single Afib episode.

        [–][deleted] 67 points68 points  (26 children)

        What is the toilet situation?

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 143 points144 points  (25 children)

        Composting. You wouldn’t like it, nobody does at first. But you get used to it.

        [–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (6 children)

        Incinerator toilets seem to be a thing too.

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 64 points65 points  (5 children)

        I’ve actually never heard of that, other than that movie with Jake Gyllenhal. I’ll look up how it works.

        [–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (4 children)

        They take a lot of electricity so not great if you’re fully off grid and don’t have a big battery pack, apparently.

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 36 points37 points  (3 children)

        That’s what I was thinking. It would have to be propane or similar. During the summer months I have lots of electricity and can run whatever I feel like. But winter months are the problem.

        [–][deleted] 65 points66 points  (17 children)

        See any ufos up there at night?

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 229 points230 points  (15 children)

        Nope. But it’s freaking great for star watching. Zero light pollution here.

        [–]TacticalTapir 1194 points1195 points  (147 children)

        How does a YouTuber live "off the grid"?

        [–]TrialAndAaron 1269 points1270 points  (49 children)

        Off grid just means you’re not tied into the electrical grid, sewer system, municipal water, whatever. not that you have to live in a shack in isolation.

        [–]pygmy 152 points153 points  (14 children)

        I live fully off grid in the Aussie bush, but also happen to be 10 mins drive to a regional city of 100k. Best of both worlds!

        [–]TheRealTron 12 points13 points  (4 children)

        That's my plan.. I have 80ish acres about 5 minutes to the closest town and 2.5 hours to the big city. I want to be fully off grid by the time I retire. It's a LONG journey.. good thing I'm still young!

        [–]pygmy 12 points13 points  (3 children)

        Having the land locked in is half the battle, now you get to slowly keeping adding & improving your offgrid dream!

        Buying (any) property as young as possible is my advice, it simply allows you much greater options in the future

        [–]hldsnfrgr 233 points234 points  (8 children)

        I see. So, OP is no Unabomber type of fellow.

        [–]Djavulspotat 57 points58 points  (6 children)

        I think Unabomber actually had an adress and mailbox and such, so probably more like ol' Teddy than not.

        [–][deleted] 134 points135 points  (21 children)

        Sneaker nets videos to a local data center or course.

        [–]RaspberryRock[S] 249 points250 points  (20 children)

        Before Starlink, a lot of people had to do just that. I was lucky that I’m in range of an LTE tower by a rural internet provider. Not great internet, but it was internet.

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          [–]RaspberryRock[S] 127 points128 points  (7 children)

          Yeah it’s off most of the time during winter and I have a backup with Xplornet. Starting about April I leave it turned on until October.

          [–]Ninjaofshadow 75 points76 points  (2 children)

          The word xplornet makes me hiss. God I hate those clowns

          [–]RaspberryRock[S] 426 points427 points  (67 children)

          I use Starlink for internet. It’s not a municipal service.

          [–]TacticalTapir 151 points152 points  (46 children)

          And solar I assume.

          [–]RaspberryRock[S] 295 points296 points  (45 children)

          Yes. I used to work in the solar power industry and most of a system at home before I bought the property.

          [–]ptrknvk 96 points97 points  (43 children)

          Do you get enough light in the winter considering you live up north?

          [–]RaspberryRock[S] 224 points225 points  (41 children)

          No, you can spend an absurd amount of money trying to cover the winter electric needs with solar. Simpler to just get a generator and use when necessary.

          [–]vteckickedinyo125 37 points38 points  (3 children)

          Got the tech specs on the off-grid power system? System size, panels, inverters, batteries. I'm in the industry and I love building custom spec stuff.

          [–]RaspberryRock[S] 19 points20 points  (2 children)

          Most of it is in this video: https://youtu.be/b2gOy1162vE But I have upgrade my batteries to 2 x 10kWh liFePo4.

          [–]MorkSal 17 points18 points  (6 children)

          Are the bugs the worst part?

          [–]PeanutSalsa 33 points34 points  (4 children)

          Do you pay property tax and how much is it?

          [–]RaspberryRock[S] 88 points89 points  (3 children)

          It was a little under $200/year when I first bought the property. But now since I’m building a luxurious 10,000 sq ft villa that the King may visit, it’s jumped to almost $900.

          [–]PeanutSalsa 36 points37 points  (2 children)

          It jumped that much just for building a cabin there?

          [–]RaspberryRock[S] 68 points69 points  (1 child)

          Yes. They get you because of the building permit.

          [–]MultiPanhandler 37 points38 points  (6 children)

          What have you learned about inverters (solar)? Any suggestions on types/brands to consider?

          [–]RaspberryRock[S] 41 points42 points  (0 children)

          I don’t know enough about the various brands to give you a good answer. I don’t like the one I currently have and I’m upgrading soon, but I forget the brand LOL

          [–]spiltnuc 31 points32 points  (3 children)

          How did you learn to build your off the grid cabin? Did you create the concept by yourself or bring in experts to help with certain aspects?

          [–]RaspberryRock[S] 68 points69 points  (2 children)

          I had a little experience making sawdust in my basement, but I learned a lot from watching youtube videos. I also have a close friend that I bugged a lot because he knows stuff. Oh, when I went to buy I-beams for my 2nd floor, the local hardware shop called on their engineer to validate my design. I think that’s the only time a pro looked over my plans.

          [–]nogreatcathedral 18 points19 points  (1 child)

          They called their engineer as a favour to you or because they were concerned?

          [–]RaspberryRock[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

          Probably a little of both. I think he was on retainer.

          [–]xiviajikx 61 points62 points  (27 children)

          Have you walked or labeled your property line? I assume it’s pretty remote so no chance of tress-passers or wandering parties, but I was always curious how someone in your situation protected your land rights. Are there portions of the property you haven’t visited in some time?

          [–]RaspberryRock[S] 129 points130 points  (26 children)

          I’m surrounded by similar properties that no one ever goes to. There’s no need to protect it. I’ve been meaning to mark it, just haven’t gotten around to it. It’s a lot of property to walk. There are portions of the property I haven’t even seen yet. 180 acres is huge.

          [–]mesalocal 16 points17 points  (2 children)

          Have you thought of growing food with Hydroponics? I saw in a comment that your soil is not great.

          [–]RaspberryRock[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

          I haven’t, but I’d like to build a floating garden for the beaver pond.