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[–]samuelangus 1715 points1716 points  (325 children)

A couple of things:

This guy flew the 787, the same airplane that they use to fly into Tel Aviv.

He did not just show support for Palestine, he compared Israelis to Hitler, and posed with a photo of the Israeli flag in a garbage can that said "fuck Israel. Burn in hell" (And who knows what else he was chanting at that rally.)

He violated Air Canada's corporate policy by doing it (some of it) in his Air Canada uniform, and then posting it on social media.

If you can't understand why Air Canada has every right to fire this racist idiot, you need help. I know I wouldn't feel safe having this guy flying me anywhere.

[–]goinupthegranbyBritish Columbia 118 points119 points  (15 children)

Appreciate the context. From the headline it sounds like BS but from the additional information you provided it sounds completely appropriate.

[–]c0mpg33k 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Yea if you read up on it this guy is a jackass who deserved to be grounded. Going and saying the things he did in uniform was asking for it.

[–]ImaginationSea2767 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Yup, just another headline trying to get people fired up and raging. It was justified with real context.

[–]epiphanius 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Me too. I can't bear the Sun, and Warmington in particular.

[–]Ordinary-Star3921 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Warmington is probably the worst ‘journalist’ in Canada… He made his name being a Ford butt polisher which meant he was very busy writing his condescending, self important and factually inaccurate tripe to run counter narrative to the perennial train wreck that is any Ford in any elected office…

[–]cruiseshipsghg 628 points629 points  (171 children)

And policy and politics aside:

Any pilot supporting terrorist actions is not a pilot I want flying my plane.

[–]the_monkey_British Columbia 283 points284 points  (46 children)

Extremely sane take.

[–]Mammoth-Charge2553 115 points116 points  (45 children)

It's sad that this is not a consensus.

[–]FellKnightCanada 57 points58 points  (7 children)

I'm pretty sympathetic to Palestinians after having spent time in a UN peacekeeping mission there 20 years ago, but I do not, and will never support terroristic actions like what Hamas did.

This dude posting this stuff in his uniform is so far outside any reasonable grounds of free speech that I have no sympathy. He is free to hold his opinions, but not to freedom from consequences.

[–]CaptainCanuck93Canada 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Timing matters. If a pilot wrapped themselves in the Saudi Arabian flag and compared Americans to Hitler in the days following 9/11, they sure as shit would be banned from flying airplanes in western airspace

There's room for nuance, and that will come, but the guy who does immediately this in the wake of the rape and torture of women and babies with ~1000 dead is not the person who is being nuanced

[–]FellKnightCanada 8 points9 points  (2 children)

100%.

To be honest, I didn't stalk his profile to see if he'd been doing this shit for years, but even if he had, after 9/11 maybe pause from talking about how shitty the worst of USA foreign policy can be.

This was Israel's 9/11.

[–]Pug_Grandma 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He has taken down his social media. He must have remarkably bad judgement to have thought it was okay to take pictures of himself at the rally and post them. And to post a picture of himself in his uniform with the Palestinian flag a few days after the attack.

Apparently he used to fly into Tel aviv

[–]TheGazelle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that's what people aren't really getting.

Israel is up to ~1k civilians killed which is less in absolute numbers than 9/11...

But Israel's total population is only ~8m compared to the USA's 300m+.

When asked about the comparison directly, secretary of state Anthony Blinken said it was proportionally TEN 9/11s.

This is an absolutely staggering loss of life for Israel, the likes of which hasn't been seen since the Yom Kippur war.

[–]mrhoof 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Free speech doesn't cover you violating your uniform policies.

[–]FellKnightCanada 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He is free to hold his opinions, but not to freedom from consequences.

I quote myself.

[–]pton12Ontario 93 points94 points  (10 children)

As someone who now lives in New York City, i am very weary of pilots with terrorist sympathies. This is not someone who should be in a cockpit until we’re sure they haven’t been radicalized.

[–]CDN08GUY 51 points52 points  (9 children)

Well once they post something like this you can never be sure anymore. This guy can never be in a cockpit again.

[–]pton12Ontario 15 points16 points  (6 children)

Yeah, I mean, I want people to be able to make (reasonable) mistakes but then be able to atone for them and re-enter society. If he’s not actually a risk to be a terrorist, I don’t want to ruin the rest of his life, but safety has to come first. If it’s just stupid shit he’s saying, then I want him to learn and do better, but if he’s at risk of radicalization and flying a plane into a building, we have to find out.

[–]cinosaNova Scotia 21 points22 points  (3 children)

Yeah, I mean, I want people to be able to make (reasonable) mistakes but then be able to atone for them and re-enter society.

This is a good take.

If he’s not actually a risk to be a terrorist, I don’t want to ruin the rest of his life, but safety has to come first.

This is also a good take. We don't necessarily need to "cancel" this guy, but he definitely can't be trusted to fly airplanes ever again. He can have a reasonable life doing something else, something that doesn't involve controlling a giant metal tube with upwards of hundreds of people inside of it, moving at hundreds of kilometers an hour.

[–]pton12Ontario 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Far too few people give compliments or are willing to have a real discussion on the internet. Let’s hope this situation does ultimately get resolved well.

[–]CDN08GUY 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I was going to reply and say exactly what the other person said. I think you’re both right. His life shouldn’t be ruined. But flying planes for a living is off the table.

[–]joausj 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who knows maybe air taliban is hiring

[–]panzerfan 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Just the thought of Black October alone ought to make anyone go nope.gif about letting this guy fly.

[–]eMan117 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Then there should be no public support of both the IDF & Hamas.

[–]Garbage_Out_Of_Here 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Wearing Palestinian colors is supporting terrorism?

[–]genius_retard -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

Not all Palestinians are Hamas. Being pro Palestine doesn't mean you support terrorism.

Edit: To the people down voting, which part of my statement do you disagree with. Is it your position that all Palestinians are Hamas or that supporting Palestine is pro-terrorist? Does that go for the nearly 40% of Palestinians who are 14 years old or younger?

[–]extropia 4 points5 points  (3 children)

This is more a failure of the article having an obtuse headline that conflates the two. (it could be intentional)

[–]genius_retard 5 points6 points  (2 children)

That is likely. It seems that the majority of the media conflates Palestinian with Hamas/terrorist. People need to stop for a moment and realize that nearly 40% of Palestinians are 14 years old or younger.

[–]sk41195 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Nobody wants to read or do actual research.

[–]amanda780 58 points59 points  (14 children)

Finally, someone with some common sense because anywhere else I read comments it’s all “bro did nothing wrong”

I also work for a large corporation, when I am at work and even on personal time I need to mindful that I represent this large corporation. I don’t identify my workplace anywhere on social media, nor do I even use my last name. We have an employee code of conduct that explicitly states what we can and cannot do. Posting personal beliefs on social media, while identifying yourself as a part of an organization like Air Canada is a very standard rule with most businesses.

I feel very little empathy for the morons that get themselves fired or suspended over this stuff.

[–]iwumbo2Ontario 33 points34 points  (7 children)

a very standard rule with most businesses

Based on some comment sections I've seen on Reddit, I have a feeling that a good number of Redditors (for one reason or another) don't work full-time jobs where they should have learned basic professional conduct like this.

[–]Lopsided_Ad3516 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Same (on the point about having to be careful even during my personal time). I get why they do it (bad for business if it’s shown their employees are saying or doing things people don’t like), but also a bit insane because, frankly, I don’t hold the same opinions as the company likes to espouse. So while it’s tiresome at work to have a lot of this shit rammed down my throat every chance they get, I also have to live by these values in anything attached to my name.

Anyway, all that to say: in public forums where you are identifiable, toe the company line.

[–]lostandfound8888 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anyway, all that to say: in public forums where you are identifiable, toe the company line.

Therefore - Reddit!

[–]CinnabonAllUpInHere 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Too bad CUPE and Fred Hahn don’t represent this guy. He’d fight for him! Lol

[–]Heffray83 20 points21 points  (5 children)

I typically would be against this sort of cancel culture nonsense, where your opinions unrelated to work can get you fired. But to be doing this in your work uniform, kinda does just ask for your job to make an example to get rid of you. It does put the onus in them to back away from your statements. Don’t express political opinions of any kind in your work uniform or on the clock.

[–]pton12Ontario 16 points17 points  (4 children)

I used to work a few blocks from the World Trade Center, and of all the jobs to have when you’re supporting terrorists, pilot is one of the riskier ones. I don’t care if your Walmart employee does this in uniform, what’s the harm. But the guy in the cockpit of a 787? Yeah, it matters.

[–]Motorized23 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Wait... I get why they would fire him. But what makes you think it was racism? To oppose isreal isn't racist.

[–]samuelangus 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The timing of it. Like the fact that he chose the same day that Hamas indiscriminately murdered hundreds of civilians to suddenly celebrate his "support for Palestine" in a rally and on his social media. It's the timing of it that strongly suggests that he supports Hamas.

[–]Motorized23 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yea I get the timing aspect. I'm pro Palestine, but I decided to keep silent over the weekend. Hamas targeting civilians can't be justified. I get that they want to hit back and get their revenge for their dead brothers, but it's not just.

Hamas attacking IDF bases is understandable - but civilians? That's why I decided to stay silent.

I hope the oppression ends and that everyone finds peace.

[–]Islandgirl1444 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's why he's suspended! He's having more problems than just wearing that shit to fly for Air Canada. Whew!

[–]KanoWins 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I'll be checking all future flights to see if he's flying the plane. He has the right to support his cause privately but when you're flying commercial airliners with hundreds of people, you need to have composure.

[–]Canadian_Psycho 11 points12 points  (0 children)

There’s no way he’ll be flying any Air Canada flights again. Once the union process is concluded he’ll be canned for a clear violation of company policy.

I’d be surprised to see him flying any Canadian carrier any time soon.

Back to Egypt I guess.

[–]BadB0ii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

honestly even if he did that stuff in his own time I don't think companies should have the right to fire someone for expressing their free expression on their own. Doing it in company attire has got to be the smoking gun there though

[–]MasterpieceAmazing76 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Context is always important. Pro-Palestine is ethical IMO, Pro-Hamas is garbage behavior.

[–]No_Arugula466 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Upvoted for visibility…

[–]The_King_of_CanadaManitoba 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Nazis are more comparable to the Hamas to be honest. They were elected because they were being oppressed, Hamas by Israel and Germany by the WW1 treaty. Both are taking advantage of the hate and rage in their countrymens hearts for their own gain.

Honestly any strikes from Israel at this point will just bolster the Hamas ranks.

[–]alphaqu22vice 5 points6 points  (1 child)

He is not only racist but potentially a danger to (Jewish) passengers.

[–]twstwr20 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah… I’m fine with a pro Palestine (NOT Hamas) but fuck the Israel flag in the garbage. That’s hate. Fuck this guy.

[–]godel32 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Monsters walk among us. Stay safe folks!

[–]DevonOO7Verified 3 points4 points  (2 children)

This guy flew the 787, the same airplane that they use to fly into Tel Aviv.

Unless he actually flies that route, I don't get what this has to do with anything. Air Canada operates 38 787 aircraft.

[–]samuelangus 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Pilots are not assigned to routes, just to airplanes. Sooner or later he would've flown to Tel Aviv if he hasn't already. But yeah regardless of the route and plane he flies the bottom line is he clearly violated Air Canada's corporate policies.

[–]DevonOO7Verified 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I still don't really think it's super relevant. Dude could be flying to Tokyo and back every day and would still deserve to be fired.

[–]inthetalltallgrass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good riddance I say

[–]Criticalfearing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can’t call him “racist” for being anti-apartheid. Not all jews support Israel/the state of Israel.

I appreciate your comment but get all the facts before launching accusations.

[–]sooninsolvent 80 points81 points  (3 children)

Large companies like Air Canada have a thing called Code of Conduct , this looks like a breach. Time for this person to start looking for a new job.

[–]Workshop-23 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Code of Conduct or not, this guy was going to get kicked to the curb. An airline, of all organizations, can't have someone in the cockpit who is celebrating acts of terror.

The CoC may dictate how much it costs them to get rid of him, but even if the guy sues them and wins a lot of money as damages, it will be nothing compared to what would happen to the brand if they tried to "both sides" this issue and let him fly.

[–]leaps-n-bounds 13 points14 points  (0 children)

He wont get another job at a major canadian airline

[–]Four0nTheFloor 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I think there’s some opening in Palestine they just lost a few motorized paraglider pilots

[–]Sleepy_McSleepyhead 168 points169 points  (1 child)

Way to earn a CSIS file, bud

[–]JoeCartersLeap 321 points322 points  (67 children)

I'm Pro-Palestine, but the day Hamas attacked and killed 600+ innocent civilians is the day I decided to keep my views to myself for a little while.

If it's the same day you decided to fly their flag, you're not really pro-Palestine, you're pro-terrorist, and you're making the rest of us look bad by associating their cause with this barbaric tragedy.

[–]Sea-Internet7015 127 points128 points  (24 children)

Spot on. If this was the weekend you decided you needed to spontaneously show your support, there is something very wrong with you.

[–]Workshop-23 51 points52 points  (0 children)

If it's the same day you decided to fly their flag, you're not really pro-Palestine, you're pro-terrorist, and you're making the rest of us look bad by associating their cause with this barbaric tragedy.

Sane take, right here.

[–]Aggravating_Boy3873 66 points67 points  (0 children)

1200 civilians and over 150 hostages from 20 nationalities including some who actually recognize Palestinian statehood.

[–]ukrokit2Alberta 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Exactly fucking this. It’s the timing that gives it away

[–]rashpimplezitz 65 points66 points  (6 children)

I use to say I was Pro-Palestine, but this whole incident has had me reading more about it and I just can't anymore. For example, the Palestine Authority uses almost all of their funds to support terrorists by giving money to anyone who kills a jew. This isn't Hamas, this is the PA in the West bank who are supposed to be moderates.

Who knows, maybe I'm just still reeling from this attack, but my opinion now is is completely the opposite. I think Israel could be capable of living in peace, but Palestine will never accept that because they have a deep religious conviction that all jews need to be killed. At some point we need to acknowledge that some cultures are just broken.

[–]grapehelium 9 points10 points  (0 children)

regarding the pay-for-slay payments the PA makes, it is not the same amount for everyone. the more jews the terrorists killed, the larger their stipend.

[–]Sea_of_stars_ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Very well said!

[–]JimmyStu998 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Exactly, I understand the pro Palestine sentiment but was shocked to see so many celebrating the murder and rape of innocent civilians. If that’s people’s idea of a freedom fighter they need to give their head a shake.

[–]Farren246 17 points18 points  (11 children)

You can be Pro-Palestine (civilian population) and Anti-Hamas at the same time.

Personally I'm Anti-Murderous-Assholes which is a much larger group today than it was in September.

[–]Kind-Reflection-6660 23 points24 points  (10 children)

You can absolutely be pro-palestine and anti-hamas. If this was truly the case, you wouldn't be taking to the streets right now.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Could not have phrased it better and I wish that the people in these rallies thought like you.

[–]SofaProfessor 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nailed it. It's just poor judgement which is a trait we probably don't want in pilots flying people in tin cans 25,000 feet high anyway. It's not like this rally happened in a vacuum. If someone can't have the self awareness to think this might not be the best time to be throwing Israeli flags in the trash then it's really easy to feel like they are being motivated by hate over everything else.

[–]FeistyBeaver 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'm pro peace worldwide, but what's about to happen isn't going to be peaceful, and that's going to be all on Hamas for everyone killed in the war to come. You would have no trouble whatsoever getting 99% of Canada to agree to place the blame for every dead civilian, Russian and Ukrainian alike on Putin's regime. But boy it's sure hard to do when you need to be woke.

[–]christmaspathfinder 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you. People everywhere should be allowed to mourn and express sorrow at the attack as well as the impending/inevitable horrors that Gazan Palestinians are and will be going through. I am getting tired of the rhetoric of “there is only one correct side”. There are just simply no winners. Attempting to see nuance in such a horrible and horrific situation should not be completely and automatically shit on as anti semitic. Being outraged and horrified at what Hamas has done should not be completely and automatically assumed to be pro Israeli.

[–]Mellon2 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I didn’t give a crap about either side but now Id want Israel to win

Looks like those terrorists did Israel’s job for them and rallied support for isreal

[–]randomacceptablename 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Id want Israel to win

They can't win. The purpose of this attack was party to draw Israel into a war. They have occupied the area and administered it before. There were other groups which operated there that they defeated.

Israel will bomb and kill their way into defeating Hamas and in the process create twice as many Palestinians who will want to kill Israelis. This cycle will not end with military victory.

[–]Dunge 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It was very wrong for everyone who took to the streets celebrating the attacks, chanting slogans supporting violence and all. But there's no issue in protesting the next day if your goal is to call for Israel to be responsible on their counter measures against innocent Palestinians, a stance that was very justified lately seeing the disproportionate response.

[–]redditslim 183 points184 points  (49 children)

Freedom of speech does not equal freedom from consequences.

[–]Cyborg_rat 14 points15 points  (4 children)

Canada doesn't have freedom of speech.

[–]Wh0IsY0u 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Technically true, it just goes by another name.

[–]cwolveswithitchynuts 8 points9 points  (2 children)

It's substantially more restrictive than in the US.

[–]Wh0IsY0u 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It's a somewhat more restrictive, sure, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make though?

Like I actually don't even know why you mention the US.
Freedom of expression is used interchangeably with the term freedom of speech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech
When people say freedom of speech they are not talking about the US.

[–]_Lucious7z 139 points140 points  (8 children)

If you worship a suicide cult, I don't want you flying my plane.

[–][deleted] 111 points112 points  (5 children)

Everyone's woke until they see a guy draped in a Palestinian flag strut into the cockpit of their plane.

[–]GriddyGang 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Lmao

[–]Whatwhyreally[🍰] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

lol nailed it. Hamas has found the limits of woke privilege.

[–]_Lucious7z 25 points26 points  (1 child)

People want to get to their destination safely.

[–]Workshop-23 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I guess that's 2023's version of "there are no atheists in fox holes..."

[–]Workshop-23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the convoy response taught us anything, it is that there is no greater affront to Canadian values than being inconvenienced...

[–]FalconLake_UFO 75 points76 points  (1 child)

Wow, did Air Canada actually do something right for once?

[–]Workshop-23 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Credit where credit is due.

The brand damage that would arise out of not handling this immediately is staggering.

[–]BuddhaBuddha999 13 points14 points  (1 child)

To be fair, anybody who has a job that holds certain responsibilities over people's lives (such as police or hospital workers, etc) should not flaunt their controversial stands on highly polarized and sensitive issues. It is not very professional. I mean what if he was wearing an Israeli flag or a Russian flag or Ukrainian flag or a Chinese flag? Or even an American flag? How would that change one's perception of the situation?

[–]Common_Ad_331 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Who wants to fly with terrorist supporters, everyone knows what they do with airplanes

[–]faradenz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Look at me look at me 💅

[–]AtlanticCanadians 26 points27 points  (1 child)

He didn't just 'wear Palestinian colours'.

He marched in rallies celebrating Hamas' murder of Israeli civilians and had signs saying 'Israel, Hitler is proud of you, terrorist state' and 'fuck you Israel, burn in hell'

I'm surprised the Sun, of all outlets, buried the lede here.

[–]shindleria 52 points53 points  (13 children)

There’s no way this SOB was ever able to sleep at night knowing he was transporting Jews back and forth around the world every day. Probably best for the safety of all crew and passengers that a tired pilot be grounded.

[–]Bmmaximus 8 points9 points  (12 children)

You can hate Israel for what they are doing to Palestinians without hating Jews, FYI.

[–]Americanboi824 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah, but read the article. He did lots more than that.

[–]Cute-Window-8835 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Employees wearing and spewing their political believes to co workers and clientele in the workplace is bad for business regardless period IMO. The fact that hes a pilot makes this worse as there is no telling were this spiral will take him or his passengers. Rare W for aircanada

[–]Temporary-Degree-625 14 points15 points  (0 children)

He is an absolute piece of shit and deserves to be fired

[–]polerize 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'd be scared to have this as my pilot, passenger or co-worker.

[–]Rockman099Ontario 20 points21 points  (1 child)

I detest cancel culture, firing or demoting people for expressing political beliefs. But this is less like publicly supporting the Freedom Convoy and more like publicly supporting the Christchurch shooter. Especially as an individual who literally has the lives of hundreds in his hands on a daily basis.

[–]Sea-Internet7015 25 points26 points  (0 children)

This is more like publicly supporting the Christchurch shooter when you are employed as a church security guard.

The dude is wearing the colours of a group that has allied itself to groups that hijack planes and bomb airports.

[–]takeoff_power_set 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Stupid fucking guy. What a way to waste hundreds of thousands of dollars in flight training.

This guy's days as an AC 787 pilot are numbered. There's no way he gets through this unscathed.

[–]kwsteveOntario 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can't trust that this guy won't fly his plane into the ground to further some political agenda. Best to ground him indefinitely.

[–]Bobll7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Love these journalists and their utter laziness. A Capt has four bars on the shoulders and what we call scrambled eggs on the cap. This guy is a first officer, he is second in command after the Captain and he sits in the right seat. I won’t comment beyond this.

[–]JTF2_HaRdLy007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Has been fired now

[–]karamazovianAlberta 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Politics aside, the article leads with a picture of the pilot with with a Palestinian flag wrapped around his neck, "PALESTINE" printed clearly on it & fully visible, standing in his pilot uniform, with the caption definitively identifying him by name.

Why is it framed that he "allegedly" wore pro-Palestinian colours? Do we just stamp every claim with that word now, as some sort of legal policy?

[–]RoyalPeacock19Ontario 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It is legal cover, yes.

[–]Sea-Limit-5430 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Tf did he expect??

[–]Whiston1993 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The guy can believe what he wants to believe but if this is the side he’s chosen keeping him away from airplanes is probably for the best.

[–]gsesls 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He should have his pilot license revoked and never to be allowed to fly again. Dude is one step away from being radicalized and flying his plane into the ground to prove a point

[–]Mutchmore 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Over 70 years of conflicts and people are waiting for the mass murder of civilians to show their support in masse. Fucking dumbasses

[–]jkozuchOntario 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Dude fucked around and is finding out.

What an idiot.

[–]LaughJack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So glad we import foreign politics, much easier to focus on that rather than domestic issues :)

[–]Sneaky-Breeki 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yea... I don't want someone with terrorist sympathies flying a plane, thanks.

[–]Canadian_Psycho 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So from what I can find, he was a flight instructor at Lachute Aviation in Quebec. Got in touch with a friend who trained there;

Evidently he completed the cadet program in Egypt and his CPL in Canada before doing the instructor route. Was at Jazz before he went mainline. Highly qualified pilot on paper but apparently at the flight school, it was a common understanding that his personality was an issue. His social media posts being so emotionally charged is nothing new from what I’m told and it was thought that they’d probably be his undoing at some point. Nobody expected Hitler though.

AC either didn’t look or didn’t care.

[–]robert_d 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Every year, if you work for a large corporation, you have to review policies, maybe even take a test. In those policies are many words about social media, and how if you mention you work for COMPANY X your posts on social media impact your position.

Smart money tells me that on Facebook or Instagram or whatever, you post only pictures of cats. Heck, 50% of the people I know avoid Social Media because of this. One drunk post and you are toast.

So this guy, he's fired.

[–]counselorntherapist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Any pro or any side. Being an immigrant I know one thing, this country has given us everything. We ran from all the troubles from our country to Canada to have a better life for ourselves and our generations and we are getting that. If I have to protest or raise my voice, it should be for the what's bad going in Canada like corruption on greenbelt or crime going on everywhere. My nephew was looted few days ago. My friend house was broke in. Etc etc.

[–]Team_Hortons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imagine being on a plane with this guy after the ex-hamas leader told every muslim to commit terrorist activity globally

[–]Lancers99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fuck this guy

[–]SamohtGnir 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I consider myself a free speech purist, but one of the reasons it works not having laws limiting speech is that there are social or other consequences. By law, I should be perfectly allowed to run naked down the street with a swastika painted on my chest shouting racist obscenities'. Socially, best case I'd had no friends, more likely get my ass kicked (if not worse). Also, by wearing a uniform you are saying you represent the organization, and so they have every right to reprimand you.

TLDR: For any free speech, the police and government shouldn't do anything, but everyone else can.

[–]Prudent-Proposal1943 3 points4 points  (1 child)

In accordance with air regulations, one is only permitted to wear Palestinian colours if they are highjacking the aircraft.

[–]SusyKay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

😂

[–]kemar7856Canada 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seems justified to me

[–]Moos_MumsyOntario 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Allowing him to continue flying seems like a really bad idea. I don't think Air Canada wants to be featured in another MayDay episode.

[–]xoxepalu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pilots supporting terrorists should not just be removed from their job.

[–]lordpugfart 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Considering the Palestinians are about to be genocided, you'll he wearing a ribbon in 20 years time. And the government will get another holiday.

[–]anxious_honeydew198 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We must curb immigration! We are in a crisis and the PM is digging the hole deeper.

[–]Sea-Limit-5430 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea, because I’d want someone showing support for terrorists to be flying my plane

/s

[–]Aggravating_Boy3873 2 points3 points  (6 children)

I feel like Israelis and Palestinians are the same people just different religion, is that wrong? I am sorry if I sound ignorant.

[–]rebel099 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Well, they are both Semites. Think of them like cousins.

[–]SusyKay 5 points6 points  (2 children)

They are like cousins. Descended from Isaac and Ishmael.

[–]Aggravating_Boy3873 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Why the hell are they killing each other then wtf.

[–]Strong_Bumblebee5495 -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

Won’t be flying with AC until this guy is confirmed terminated… I prefer Porter these days anyways, staff makes you feel like a customers paying good money for a service as opposed to an inconvenient imposition

[–]MisterSkepticism 0 points1 point  (0 children)

divide the population by showing extremists and comparing extremists to everyday people. nice strats

[–]spicydnd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny a lot of those supporting this were heavily arguing against Peterson, nothing related to the topic and hand really, I just notice a lot of repeat names. Not saying anything beyond that comparison.