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Adnan Syed, subject of Serial- Season 1, fully exonerated.True Crime (self.podcasts)

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Breaking news today as Adnan Syed was fully exonerated. He was in wrongfully convicted and the subject of several different podcasts. Laura Nirider’s Tweet

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[–]RandyMJones 18 points19 points  (0 children)

He did 20 hard years in prison guilty or not

[–]swump 91 points92 points  (3 children)

All these people in these comments claiming he's guilty lol. Did none of y'all read the part where the cops deliberately withheld the fact that they had a separate suspect that verbally threatened to kill Hay? But they picked Adnan to be the killer because he was brown and the boyfriend. It made a convincing story and they knew they could get him locked up. Those same cops were found to be guilty of withholding evidence in several other cases.

Even if Adnan did commit the murder, to which there is zero evidence that he was, that trial was a sham and he deserved better. We all deserve better than the shit justice system we have in this country.

[–]youworryaboutyou 20 points21 points  (1 child)

"This morning, I instructed my office to dismiss the criminal case
against Adnan Syed, following the completion of a second round of touch
DNA testing of items that were never tested before," Mosby said. "Those
items include a skirt, pantyhose, shoes, and jacket of Hae Min Lee.
Although no DNA was recovered from the skirt, the pantyhose, or jacket
swabs, there was a DNA mixture of multiple contributors on both Miss
Lee's shoes — the same multiple contributor for both of Miss Lee's
shoes."

"Most compellingly," Mosby said, Syed's DNA "was excluded."

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They can pound sand. He's innocent and the DNA evidence exonerates him.

[–]swump 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Exactly. What's so infuriating is they could have done this testing a long time ago. The only reason they were able to do it is because of a recent law that passed that allowed his case to be re-examined simply because he was convicted before the age of 18. Just think of how many people are in prison right now that are innocent

[–]bmw_19812003 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I agree I think this was a case of the cops deciding he was guilty and then making the evidence fit or in some cases inventing evidence. They knew they had no physical evidence so they needed a “star” witness and for that they used jay. What they had against or what techniques they used to co opt him is unknown but whatever it was they could get him to say whatever they wanted; it should be noted this is not unique to this case police co-opting false witnesses either intentionally or unintentionally happens all the time. I know may people will say there is no way he would implicate himself if he was innocent but there are tons of cases of individuals confessing to crimes that they are later found to completely innocent of; law enforcement interrogation techniques have been honed for decades and in the hands of unethical individuals can be used to get susceptible people to say just about anything.

[–]Burningbeard696 75 points76 points  (58 children)

Not sure what to make of this, there was never anything brought up in the podcast that truly made me think he was innocent. Definitely a case of bad police work I suppose.

[–]TheDarkGoblin39 113 points114 points  (20 children)

What I came away with was that there absolutely was reasonable doubt

[–]Burningbeard696 1 point2 points  (19 children)

Yeah your probably right. But when I watched Making a Murderer and they showed the interview with Brendan Dassey I instantly knew he had nothing to do with it. (Steven Avery is a different thing) there was just never anything overly compelling to me presented in serial that he was innocent. Not seeing all the trial evidence means it's hard to say 100% either way but I think you are right there is doubt but I was maybe expecting too much going into the podcast.

[–]Baldbeagle73 15 points16 points  (15 children)

When I first heard the story Jay told, I knew instantly that it was mostly or all bullshit. If Adnan did it, or was involved at all, it didn't happen anything like the story the prosecution told.

[–]Daniel-Mentxaka 14 points15 points  (14 children)

He was able to bring the police to the car. That’s a cold fact.

[–]Orphan__of_Kos 8 points9 points  (1 child)

And it is hard to believe he makes up the ENTIRE story in a crime he is involved as well.

[–]ucsdstaff 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, don't get the dismissal of an eye witness in this case. Jay was questioned for days in court.

What disturbs me is the double standard. Jay is expected to have total perfect recall of day. Whereas Adnan is given pass for every incriminating detail.

[–]chainless-soul 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Even that is questionable, since we don't have solid evidence of Jay telling them where the car was.

[–]Daniel-Mentxaka 3 points4 points  (7 children)

How did they find the car then?

[–]chainless-soul 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Either they found it already or someone told them. It could have been Jay. It is not a 100% proven fact that it is Jay because that part of the interview was the only part not recorded.

[–]Daniel-Mentxaka 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I thought they couldn’t find the car and he physically took them to it but I sincerely don’t remember where or when I read this. Do you have a trustworthy source on this?

[–]chainless-soul 1 point2 points  (1 child)

He supposedly told them during one of his interviews. But again, that part wasn't recorded for prosperity so we don't have any way to verify what was said if you don't trust the detectives, which I don't necessarily.

[–]Orphan__of_Kos -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, he went there with police. Source: the Serial podcast (I listened to it recently).

[–]ucsdstaff 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You are suggesting a conspiracy to avoid an inconvenient fact. Not a good look.

[–]chainless-soul 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. I'm saying there's a detective on the case who has a track record of bad behaviour: https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-cr-syed-detectives-20220923-iplrgk5l5rb6rhzjznagzn2lre-story.html

[–]tallbrownhandsome -1 points0 points  (2 children)

He brought them to the car but the car was parked there for only a few days (based on fresh grass underneath on on the tires). This contradicts what Jay said about the car being there for 6 weeks

[–]Orphan__of_Kos -1 points0 points  (1 child)

It was winter so it is no surprise the grass stayed green for weeks.

[–]tallbrownhandsome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cars parked next to Hae’s had dead, brown grass underneath them

[–]jgraz22 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Hate to be this guy, but Brendan was definitely involved too. While being very entertaining, Making a Murderer left out a lot of stuff and was absurdly biased.

[–]Burningbeard696 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That interview with Brendan was a total joke and in any sane society would have been laughed out of court. I'll take your word for it that there was other evidence.

[–]whatsnewpussykat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What other evidence is there to suggest Brendan was involved?

[–]suzaitch 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They tested DNA on her shoes that had never been tested before and it didn’t match Adnan.

[–]Direct_Scarcity_2471 15 points16 points  (30 children)

Curious, was there anything brought up that made you think he was guilty?

Been a while since I listened, and I don't recall any smoking gun ( or the opposite for innocent).

[–]outdoorlaura 51 points52 points  (15 children)

I never listened to Serial, but I do listen to Opening Arguments (a legal podcast) and they lay out their reasons for why they think he is guilty in Episode 107, and then cover why he was released in Episode 633.

They're in agreement that his conviction should be overturned because of poor police work and a poor defense team, but they still believe the evidence points to guilt.

It was an interesting listen and they do a good job explaining the circumstances of his release.

[–]Direct_Scarcity_2471 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I'll take a listen.

[–]Yuppersforreal 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Opening Arguments did a great job of explaining why Adnan is likely guilty. I remember i started law school when serial was becoming big. I asked one of my professors who was a former prosecutor what she thought after she listened to the podcast. I thought Adnan was innocent and she thought he was guilty. Her explanation was similar to Opening Arguments'-- either Adnan did it or he is the unluckily person in the world to have so many things point to him. After practicing for several years, to include a short time in crim law, I side with my old professor and Opening Arguments. Adnan definitely deserves to be released due to the Brady violation, regardless of his guilt.

[–]Baldbeagle73 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Ok, I just listened to OA107 because I generally respect these guys, and I was really disappointed in this episode. The lawyer seems to use it as an excuse to riff on some facts about the law and how it's practiced without really making a good case for factual guilt. He says he probably would have voted "guilty" if he had been on the jury in the trial, but that doesn't address all the facts we know that were not presented, or poorly presented, at trial.

He really sidesteps the issue of the police forcing Jay's story to fit, two different ways in two different interviews, according to the different understandings they had of the cell tower coverage at different times. He prefers to talk about "coaching witnesses" and how that's not illegal, which is not the issue among innocenters at all.

[–]outdoorlaura 0 points1 point  (3 children)

He really sidesteps the issue of the police forcing Jay's story to fit, two different ways in two different interviews, according to the different understandings they had of the cell tower coverage at different times.

I think he goes more into this in Episode 633 if I remember correctly. The interview with Jay and the cell tower evidence were definitely talked about as being sketchy.

[–]Baldbeagle73 2 points3 points  (2 children)

"The interview with Jay and the cell tower evidence"

That's pretty much the prosecution's whole case you're talking about there.

[–]outdoorlaura 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Oh really? Like I said, I never listened to Serial so I don't really know the details of the case. I think I didnt love her reporting style and I couldnt make it past the first episode. I tried Undisclosed too, but I believe that host also had a personal connection to Adnan, if I'm remembering right.

That said, if there are any other podcasts anyone knows of that go over the facts a bit more objectively, I'd be interested in revisting this story!

[–]Baldbeagle73 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jay's story is the only thing that puts Adnan anywhere near Hae Min after school that day. There is no physical evidence connecting him to the crime.

[–]imafuckingmessdude 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Did you read that they now retested the DNA from the crime scene and Adnan is 99.9% not the person who was at the scene? That evidence points to innocence. (Not trying to start anything just didn't know if you saw that)

[–]outdoorlaura -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I think that was mentioned in the OA podcast too, because that evidence was available to the defense but they didnt use it to introduce reasonable doubt? I think?

either that or it was an ICYMI episode that talks about the Adnan case. ....I listen to too many podcasts and cant keep them straight sometimes lol.

I didnt listen to Serial so I'm pretty out of the loop! I'm wondering if there's a podcast that does a complete recap of the evidence and trial + Serial's reporting? I guess there's been some criticism of how NYT/Serial handled updates and stuff.

[–]QV79Y 9 points10 points  (0 children)

but they still believe the evidence points to guilt

They may have expertise in the law, but their opinion as to his guilt or innocence isn't worth any more than anyone else's.

[–]Baldbeagle73 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I think they stay with a "guilty" position just because they've seen so many convicted on much worse evidence.

Good podcast, otherwise.

Edit: If you want to do a deep dive on the case, after hearing Serial Season 1, listen to Undisclosed Season 1, and read Colin Miller and Susan Simpson's blogs

[–]morethandorkYeah, Let's Go There 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Undisclosed was commissioned by Adnans family. It is not a reliable source.

[–]Baldbeagle73 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not exactly. It was started by a friend of the family, and has always been quite honest about its biases.

[–]TigerRumMonkey 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Except that there is only circumstantial evidence.

[–]morethandorkYeah, Let's Go There 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So?

[–]GoldieLox9 13 points14 points  (10 children)

It's been a while (I listened as it aired years and years ago) but didn't he never call Hae's cell phone? He already knew there was no point. Also, that guy who buried the body with him was in love with his girlfriend (Stephanie? that name stands out to me) and wouldn't have risked this beloved girlfriend and implicating himself in something he didn't do. Plus if he buried the body and Adnan was not with him, that's super risky to claim he was. What if Adnan had been seen somewhere else at the time? That guy's story crumbles. Also, Sarah Koenig was shady in how she presented the case. She opened the podcast talking about who can reasonably remember wherre they were months earlier? But it wasn't true, Adnan was asked for his whereabouts by detectives within a day or so of the disappearance, not weeks and weeks later like Sarah implied. Also, strangulation is a long way to kill someone, and so personal to squeeze the life out of a person. The killer had to have a whole lot of rage. Everything to me, at least, implicates Adnan.

[–]Direct_Scarcity_2471 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That's right about the phone. I'm listening to Opening Arguements now. They do make fair arguments and explain the facts without Sarah's empathetic lens.

[–]Baldbeagle73 7 points8 points  (8 children)

Hae didn't have a cell phone. She had a pager, which was never recovered.

[–]GoldieLox9 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Oh, my mistake. Didn't someone look through his cell phone records and conclude he had not called her pager? I don't really remember specifics.

[–]Baldbeagle73 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I don't remember the specifics either, it's just something that gets repeated by guilters as if it matters. If he knew she had disappeared, why would he try to call her, knowing other people would be doing the same?

He wouldn't call the land line at her home, because the parents disapproved of their former relationship.

[–]GoldieLox9 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I think it matters quite a bit whether he tried to call her or page her. Even before he had learned she was missing, he hadn't tried to reach her. But after he'd heard she was missing, I think her friends would keep trying to reach her. In their minds, there's a possibility she ran away and was upset. If there's a chance that a message would help bring someone back sooner, you send it. A reason not to try is that he knew she was dead and not a runaway who might change her mind when she heard from her family and ex boyfriend.

[–]Baldbeagle73 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It's useless for you and me to guess about his motives, but he was an ex, remember, knowing she had a new boyfriend. He might have figured she was with him and calling her would be awkward.

[–]morethandorkYeah, Let's Go There -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Speaking from experience, when someone dies unexpectedly, friends and family will call the persons phone and email when they find out the person died because they don’t believe it.

When a person goes missing, they call over and over even long after they’re gone “just in case.”

Adnan had a consistent pattern of paging her multiple times a day before she died. Before anyone else knew she was dead or even missing, he’d already stopped paging her.

Adnan is 100% guilty.

[–]ucsdstaff 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Adnan constantly called her pager. Including 3 times the night before she was murdered.

Curiously, he never tried to contact her at all after the murder. Not even when she was listed as missing. Just odd.

[–]morethandorkYeah, Let's Go There -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not odd. Very guilty.

Speaking from experience, when someone dies unexpectedly, friends and family will call the persons phone and email when they find out the person died because they don’t believe it.

When a person goes missing, they call over and over even long after they’re gone “just in case.”

Adnan is 100% guilty.

[–]swump 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It doesn't matter. You're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. They never had enough evidence to prove that he was guilty. Period. He should have never been in prison in the first place.

[–]MissAdikia 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Listen to undisclosed and I think you’ll change your mind.

[–]Burningbeard696 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Might be worth a go, my podcast list is so long though lol.

[–]MissAdikia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s long and tedious legalese sometimes but they really point out the horrendous police work very clearly and debunk a lot of the stuff Sarah on serial was wishy washy about or didn’t present all the facts. I believe they are updating it with new information about the case there as well.

[–]morethandorkYeah, Let's Go There 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Undisclosed was commissioned by Adnans family. It is not a reliable source.

[–]bmw_19812003 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I must admit I was one of the people that listened to serial and was about 70% sure he did it; I didn’t however think that the prosecution proved it beyond a reasonable doubt. With all the recent developments I went and listen to a few of the newer podcasts that summarized the evidence collected post trial and was blown away I then switched to be about 70% certain he was innocent. Now the DNA evidence is released and I’m 99% sure he was innocent. Just goes to show even when a case is closely examined as it was in the first serial podcast it’s all to easy to make someone look guilty when you have a motivated prosecution; kind of scary.

[–]Trick-Two497 104 points105 points  (12 children)

I'm going to nit pick. He was not fully exonerated. They said that they will not be retrying him soon - they had to do that within a certain time frame and they only had another week to make that decision. Per The Guardian: "Syed can still be retried depending on what the Baltimore state’s attorney, Marilyn Mosby, decides, according to CBS, because there is no time limit to prosecute murder cases.
"But Tuesday’s decision ensures he will not be returned to custody any time soon, if ever again, and investigators have said they are following up on promising leads that potentially implicate other suspects."

Further down in the article: "Despite the dismissal of charges, authorities have stopped short of declaring they believe Syed is innocent of Lee’s murder. Mosby has said that she will “certify” Syed’s innocence if new tests determine DNA collected as part of the investigation into Lee’s murder is inconclusive, or traces back to “two alternative suspects”, according to WJZ.
“If it comes back to Adnan Syed, the state is still in a position to proceed upon the prosecution,” she said. Otherwise, Mosby has indicated she will acknowledge he is factually innocent – a significant legal distinction – and wrongfully convicted."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/11/adnan-syed-serial-podcast-prosecutors-drop-charges

[–]doitforthepizza 89 points90 points  (1 child)

That article doesn't seem up to date. On The New York Times they quote Marilyn Mosbey, the state's attorney for Baltimore city: “It’s still an open and pending case, but with regard to Adnan Syed, the case is finished" and "we used advanced DNA to determine that it was not Adnan Syed.” it goes on further to say "Mr. Syed had been “wrongfully convicted,” but that a petition for his innocence still had to be initiated and certified."

So to me it sounds like the state is satisfied the DNA excludes Adnan but they still have to file the paperwork.

Baltimore Prosecutors Drop Charges Against Adnan Syed

[–]GermsDean 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Being out of date was my first thought too. I don’t think that Guardian article explained anything that wasn’t known like two weeks ago. I definitely heard NPR report that additional DNA testing excluded Syed.

[–]Baldbeagle73 53 points54 points  (5 children)

In other words, as it stands right now, it's as if he had never been charged, except for having spent 23 years in prison. They haven't yet certified his innocence. They haven't yet certified your innocence or mine, either. But unless they charge him again, and he's convicted, he's presumed innocent.

[–]Mysterious_Lychee353 15 points16 points  (2 children)

You're wrong.

She explained in the press conference that the certification of innocence is just an official process that has to be set in motion by the defence attorneys, so they have to ask for the writ of innocence to be certified, and she has said that she will agree to it, that's just how it works. It's red tape.

She said the case against Adnan Syed is over, and that he has been exonerated. He was excluded by the DNA, that's it. The sentence in your second paragraph about the DNA is out of date, that is what she said a few weeks ago, but the announcement yesterday was the result of those tests, i.e. saying that they found DNA but it wasn't Adnan's, and were able to exclude Adnan. So what she said she would do there, is what she did yesterday. She said he had been wrongfully convicted.

You can find the press conference and her actual words on YouTube which confirm this

[–]Simple_Opossum 5 points6 points  (1 child)

So curious to know what the DNA evidence showed and how it conclusively excluded him.

[–]chainless-soul 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think all that's been released so far is that DNA from several individuals was found on Hae's dress shoes. The DNA did not match Hae, Adnan, or Jay.

Given that this alone doesn't seem enough to cause them to drop the entire case against Adnan, I have a feeling that they did get a match for someone of interest, even one of the two alternate suspects, though only time will tell.

[–]Birdonahook 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Incorrect. The article states that they will declare his innocence if the DNA exonerates him. Which is exactly what happened. They’ll be moving to certify his innocence next.

https://www.wbaltv.com/amp/article/adnan-syed-charges-dropped-baltimore/41585971

[–]rubix_redux 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But was there ever a phone at the Best Buy?

[–]Far_Particular_430 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I listened to the podcast, and came away thinking he was guilty

[–]GenevieveLeah 12 points13 points  (7 children)

Jesus. I hope he finds peace.

[–]fullercorp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

statute of limitations on perjury has expired on Jay

[–]SunBlindFool 4 points5 points  (11 children)

What happened to the kid who claimed he helped him? Seemed like was covering for the real killer.

[–]Baldbeagle73 31 points32 points  (8 children)

You're referring to Jay. Until some new evidence comes to light, lotsa guesses are floating around. He might have been involved, covering for somebody else, or he might have just been a convenient person for the cops to manipulate into making up a story. My own hypothesis from first hearing the podcast was that when Hae Min was still "missing" he said some off-the-wall remark like "yeah, Adnan killed her" just to be saying something, the tale grew in the telling, and eventually the cops heard it.

He had quite a reputation as a storyteller.

[–]lmck2602 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I’m no expert on this case but i heard an interesting theory on why Jay might have lied from another subreddit. Jay was selling drugs out of his grandmothers house and the theory is that he was manipulated into telling this story because he was afraid that his grandmother could get in trouble for the drug dealing (e.g. his grandmother might lose her house). I’m not saying this is true, but it’s an interesting theory.

[–]Baldbeagle73 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Even without Grandma, or any large quantities involved, he was legally an adult selling dope to kids. That alone could get somebody put away for serious time.

[–]BenjaminHarvey 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Except he stuck to the story even after the podcast came out, didn't he?

[–]xraygun2014 29 points30 points  (0 children)

he stuck to the story

Well...one of eight

[–]Baldbeagle73 14 points15 points  (0 children)

He had a plea deal and get-out-of-jail-free card for subsequent crimes that he would have thrown away by recanting, not to mention perjury charges. In for a penny, in for a pound.

[–]lmck2602 18 points19 points  (0 children)

He changed his story multiple times.

[–]Simple_Opossum -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

He knew where her car was though. There's no way he was manipulated. He either did it, or was there.

[–]bmw_19812003 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the car thing is a red herring; don’t forget he didn’t “show” them the car until months after the arrest. I think the car was placed there later; who know by who. The detectives in the case were tipped off to the location of the car either through a tip or it may have been found by a patrol officer. The detectives knew if jay could “show” them the car it would be damming evidence against Adyan and would further reinforce jay’s testimony. My guess is they picked up jay and took him for a drive to help jog his memory; the whole time pumping him to tell them where the car is, and driving around the location of the car. Jay wanted to help them so once they got close and he recognized the car (probably after much reminding of what it looked like) he was like “hey there’s where we left the car”. That way the detectives could say jay “knew the location” or even “showed them” the location of the car. Of course the fact that they already knew the location of the car and the fact they had to “help jay remember” that location would never enter the official investigation documentation.

[–]swump 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Every time he gave his testimony his story changed and so he became an untrustworthy witness. How can you use someone's testimony as evidence when the details of the testimony change every time they give it?

[–]RogerBtaney 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Travesty of justice that poor girl's family

[–]PantherEverSoPink 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They've had to relive what happened again and again. And now this. It's been 23 years and they can't move on with their lives, it's unimaginable.

[–]cadiuspan 4 points5 points  (2 children)

In my 20s you couldn't tell me Adnan did it but in my 30s I definitely think he did it.

[–]Twink4Jesus 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How so?

[–]cadiuspan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Asia letter, and Adnan not calling hae when she disappeared. Also Adnan had the biggest motive, the trial was faulty but I think Adnan did it.

[–]chipsandsalsa3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I never thought he was guilty. I’m glad he’s free and hopefully he’ll sue for wrongful conviction. Just bc he seemed like the only option for the murderer didn’t mean he was…

[–]DanieXJ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No. He was released. That doesn't mean he's innocent. Even if you put in the reasonable doubt if there was a new trial. He'd still just be not guilty, not necessarily innocent.

Sometimes they are the same thing. Sometimes.... not to much.

[–]Baldbeagle73 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

And the guilters' heads explode, as with Amanda Knox.

[–]TheRealAdnanSyed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

About time!!!!

[–]WinterBourne25 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Why are we using the words “fully exonerated” though? Did the DNA tests link one of the other suspects?

[–]chainless-soul 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I suspect it did for them to drop all charges but they haven't released who the DNA matches were, just that it wasn't Hae, Adnan, or Jay.

[–]WinterBourne25 -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

They said they’d drop the charges if they didn’t find his DNA. That doesn’t necessarily mean they matched it to someone else.

[–]chainless-soul 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Which is why I said I "suspect" they got a match rather than conclusively saying that they did.

[–]WinterBourne25 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I understand. I’m just discussing. I’m fascinated by this topic. I didn’t accuse you of being conclusively saying.

[–]chainless-soul 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No worries. I have probably spent too much time in r/serialpodcast, the atmosphere there is pretty tense.

[–]Baldbeagle73 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It means they found DNA that clearly wasn't Adnan's, so they don't have any evidence on which to try him, since all the original evidence is garbage.

[–]suburban_paradise -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He wasn’t exonerated. Baltimore City declined to set a new trial within a statutory time period. He can always be re-indicted.

[–]Foco_cholo -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

I'm still in season 1, guess i know how it ends

[–]youcallthataheadshot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Find other sources besides Serial, it’s entertaining but ultimately does a poor job of showcasing the evidence and sets up the false dichotomy of “Adnan or Jay”.