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[Weekly] Cookie Run Ovenbreak + Kingdom QnA/Help Thread

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1. Before the Update

The drama surrounding the 6th Anniversery update isn't purely because of this specific update itself. It's more of a explosion of many small and large incidents between now and Season 6. These include:

Cookie Trials reward patch
- In Cookierun, there is a game mode called ''. Every time a new cookie gets released, a 'trial' is released along with it. It essentially rewards you for reaching a certain score. Each cookie trial used to have a 'bonus mission' (eg. getting a certain amount of jellies) which would mainly give you ingredients for the cookie's (makes the cookie more powerful). However, in August of 2021 these 'bonus missions' were completely removed, and players now had to grind through other methods in order to upgrade their magic candy.
UI 'improvement'
- Cookierun got a major UI overhaul in January 2022. However, a majority of the users don't like this new design. Many buttons became smaller and hard to press, there were no longer images of the cookie's skills, making you rely on text description to understand their skill, you could no longer check how many runs your cookie had left, and you could now only level up cookies 1 level at a time. This, among with, many, many other poor design choices, made the quality of life of this game much worse.
  Users complained on CM Rose's livestream, but she simply stated that the users were just 'not used it' yet, and they would not be going back to the old UI. This enraged the users.
Trophy Race 'information' update
- is a mode where you battle against other players to compete who can get the highest score. It is considered the 'main game mode' along with breakout. As this is a competitive mode, performance is very important, as a single lag spike could make you hit a obstacle, essentially ruining your run. However, Cookierun got an update where it would now announce information of other player's runs (if they hit an obstacle, restarted their run, started their relay, etc), and this seemingly degraded the performance of the game mode. What used to run on smooth 120fps is now barely running on 60fps, with frequent lag spikes. Some players even resorted to turning airplane mode on to not get these 'announcements' during their play.
Diary Rework
- In Cookierun, you could gather 'diary coins' during your play, which you can later on spend at the diary shop in exchange for resources. However, it was now reworked from gathering coins to instead completing 'missions'. It essentially became daily missions. While this did make completing tasks for the diary faster, the rewards have been heavily reduced. The value of the rewards went from ~13700 crystals -> ~1300 crystals. It's not even 10%!
  Devsisters said that while they did reduce the rewards for the diary itself, the overall rewards you can get did not change as more rewards have been added to other events. While this is technically true, this doesn't consider 'mileage', as it only gives out keys instead of crystals.

Before going on to the actual 6th Anniversary, I do have to mention mileage. Cookierun has a pity system called 'mileage', where every crystal you spend on the gacha shop gets transferred into mileage. Every 5000 crystals = 5 epic cookies / 1 legendary cookie. Mileage is very important in obtaining legendary cookies. Mileage is the only reliable way to obtain legendary cookies. The way f2p or people who only spend a little is by saving up mileage until the next legendary comes out, and investing in that cookie. It is important to note that only crystals get converted to mileage. Cookierun has 'keys' you can get that essentially lets you open a chest for free without spending crystals. However, this does not count towards your mileage. Open 100 chests with keys and you would still have 0 mileage. This becomes more important later on.

2. 6th Anniversary Update

6th anniversary is when a haul of new problems came in, not only within the game itself but also with Devsisters, the developers as well. This is the update that brought the Millenial Tree (legendary cookie) buff, by giving the cookie a magic candy and a pet. This information becomes important later on.

Raid Run
6th Anniversary introduced a new main gamemode called 'Raid Run', where you run with other people in order to defeat a monster-boss. But reception of this gamemode was horrendously bad.
- Horrendous Balance
  - Raid Run introduced a system where you can use a cookie's 'attack skill' to attack the boss. You can equip your chosen cookie's skill along with one extra skill of another cookie (except that skill has to be at least lvl7.) However, the bosses' difficulty was set so high that unless you had 2 skills, with one of them being at least lvl 7, it was impossible to beat. You need to note that the only way to upgrade these 'attack skills' are by either by getting resources through playing raid run or buying them with ''.
    However, you don't get any Raid Run rewards unless you successfully defeat the boss, which you need an already high leveled skill to do so. So it is impossible to gather resources by playing raid run if your skill isn't leveled up already, which is the reason why you're playing raid run in the first place? Naturally, people were forced to buy resources with magic powder to even start playing Raid Run, but the amount needed to buy them was very high (20,000 to get to lvl7). Magic Powder is a resource that is also shared with buying magic candy ingredients mentioned before, so it's a very important resource that you shouldn't waste. While veteran players luckily have them piled up, this is a disaster for newbies, as they only have access to limited resources. This is made worse by players not accepting Raid Run queues with any newbies in them as having a newbie on your team likely means that you'll fail the run and get no rewards. Newbies have been soft-blocked from Raid Run.
- Insanely long Play Times
  - Cookierun is a casual game. The play times are meant to be short. Trophy race lasts 7 minutes at most, and you can complete a Breakout episode (~10 runners) in about a hour. However, Raid Run lasts 13 minutes at most. You are continuously running for 14 minutes if you can't defeat the boss earlier. Not only is this boring, but it is an incredible time waster if you fail the run.
    In order to get rewards for Raid Run you need to defeat the boss within the time limit while also being alive at the end of it. If you fail the run, you have just wasted 13 minutes. Even if your team succeeds in defeating the boss, if you weren't able to survive until the end, you gain 0 rewards. Naturally, this makes the game mode even worse for newbies. Even if you somehow manage to get into a queue with more veteran players,if you can not survive until the end, you have just wasted your time.
- Because of this, along with just plain boring gameplay of the mode, this game mode is being heavily criticized upon.
Guild Run
In Cookierun, you can join a guild, and run in competing against other guilds. You run in different arenas and try to score the highest in each arena.
- Reuse of past themes
  - Guild Run is split into seasons, with each season (supposed) to having its own theme, with unique maps, lobbies, etc. However, for the past 3 seasons the same maps, lobby, titles and many other things have been reused. Note that each season lasts 2 months, meaning the users haven't gotten actual new Guild Run content in 6 months. That's half a year!
Magic Laboratory Rework
is a system where you can craft magic candy, along with other resources with 'ingredients' you can get by playing the game. This system got a 'rework' in this update, which faced heavy backlash. This is considered the biggest problems of the update.
- Ingredient Unification
  - Many ingredients have been 'simplified', and many of your previous ingredients have now been unified to 'one for all' ingredient. Because of this, the number of ingredients have been heavily reduced. This in itself brought on many problems, such as a lack of variety and characteristic. However, the main problem with the new update is that a new S-Grade ingredient has been added, which none of the pre-rework ingredients got converted to. Furthermore, they can not be bought with Magic Powder like other ingredients since they are S-Grade. The important part is that this new ingredient is an essential ingredient in upgrading Legendary Cookie's Magic Candy. And the only (reliable) way to obtain them is by crafting them with lesser-grade ingredients. But this leads on to the next point:
- Unbelievably long Cooldown
  - This S-Grade ingredient can only be crafted once every 7 days. You need 28 of these to level up the legendary's Magic Candy to lvl5 (max level). With simple math, we can calculate that it will take 7 months to upgrade the MC without paying. 7 months. 7 months!!!! This is made worse by the unification. Even if you already had all the ingredients gathered, waiting for the Millenial Tree Buff, what would have taken you less than a month pre-rework now takes 7 months. Note that legendaries stay in the meta for 4-6 months, so by the time you completely max out your magic candy, the next legendary would have been buffed, so you need to now max out their candy... and so on.
Reduced rewards of events
Cookierun has events which (used to) give good rewards. However, with this update, the rewards, while technically 'better', have been changed.
- Shift from crystals to keys
  - As explained before, mileage is a very important system in this game. It is the only reliable way to get Legendary Cookies. Before, events used to give out thousands of crystals. Events, along with breakout, was one of the main way you would gather crystals. However, excluding the 'invite your friend' and check-in rewards, you get a grand total of... 0 crystals. 0. ZERO. You now get keys to open Cookie and Pet chests, along with magic powder, spirit potions and free Treasure Draws. If you convert them into crystals they are technically 'better rewards' but they provide 0 mileage. It has now become exceptionally hard to gather mileage and crystals in general because of this. I mentioned 'excluding check-in rewards' before, so let's get on to that.
- 6th Anniversary 'Special Check-In Rewards'
  - This is the 6th anniversary of the game. You would expect the game to give out more rewards than usual. That's why they gave us a 'special anniversary check-in bonus', which gives you a grand total of... 200 crystals each day! Times that by 28 days and you get 4800 crystals, which isn't even enough to open one cookie chest. However, some days they give out 200 cubes instead so the total is likely closer to around 4000 crystals. That's enough to open... 1 cookie chest. This is a direct contrast to the 5th anniversary where they gave out tens of thousands of crystals, along with a crystal 'piggybank' event where you could 'get back' a certain amount of crystals you used. The more crystals you spent, the more you would get back to spend again. Heck, even compared to the normal, non-anniversary check-in rewards where they would give you 3000 crystals in 28 days, that's only ~1000 more!

I haven't even begun to talk about the lack of rewards in the ice tower event, boring team fight update, the controversial selection of cookies for Grand Champions League, and so much more. But then the post will be too long, so let's move on...

3. CM Rose Livestreams

Every Thursday, starting 8pm KST, Rose, one of CookieRun's Community Managers held out official live streams on Twitch and Youtube. This acted as a 'gateway' between users and the developers, allowing the users to communicate their thoughts and ideas directly to Rose, who could then pass it on to the actual developers. It also acted as a way of engagement with the community, holding out fan art events and playing together with users and generally having fun. However... reception of CM Rose hasn't been terribly good since the start with KR players.

Before the 'incident'
- Many KR players were divided on if they liked Rose or not. On one hand, she was the much-needed gateway to the developers. It was a sign that Devsisters were willing to listen to the needs of users. However, it was also pretty clear that Rose was not very knowledgeable about the game itself. Harshly speaking, her understanding of the game was similar to a newbie's, even though she was a Community Manager. This struck fear as Rose might not be able to properly deliver the messages of the fans if she herself doesn't understand the game very well. Because of this, Rose gained many fans and anti-fans within the KR community. This wasn't much of a problem for EN users, simply because of language barrier.
13/10/2022 Livestream
- In this stream, the CEO of Devsisters, Bae Hyunguk joined the stream to answer the questions of fans. However, when given questions about the previously mentioned problems, he simply proceeded to either avoid the question or answer very simply without giving much actual solutions for the problems. Because of this (and the general nature of the internet), the twitch chat got very, very heated, with personal insults starting to be thrown around. At the end of the livestream, Rose broke down, and said the following:
  그런데 우리가 이렇게 와 가지고 이렇게 이야기하는 이유는 조금이라도 바뀌고, 조금이라도 개선되고, 그런 여지가 있을 거라고 믿기 때문에 그렇게 이야기를 하시는 거잖아요. 안 그렇습니까? 근데! 근데 또 말은, '너네 얘긴 듣지도 않고, 해결되는 게 뭐가 있어?'...그건 우리가 자존심 부리는 게 아니라 여러분이 자존심 부리는 거에요.
  Which translates to:
  "The fact that we're here means that we're trying to change and trying to improve. And the fact that you guys keep on talking to us means that you believe that we will change. Right? But if you keep on saying "they don't listen to a thing we say. Nothing's going to be fixed...", ... that's not us being arrogant, that's you guys being arrogant.
  The word 'arrogant' used here is quite harsh, but it does still deliver a similar message. This obviously brought rage to the KR users. Because of this statement, the KR view on CM Rose has been heavily shifted to the negative, and she's mainly full of anti-fans.
  However, due to language barrier and difference in culture, the EN fan base viewed the break-down of Rose as Devsisters using her as a meat shield against criticism (admittedly, they aren't wrong either). The hashtag #SaveRose gained huge popularity within the discord and twitter community. This different views on Rose of KR and EN fans brought among chaos, EN fans starting to view KR fans as heartless as mean, the KR fans having to step into the discord server to explain their side for not joining the #SaveRose trend. People were shifting sides constantly for days in the community, complete chaos.
  As of currently, CM Rose has indefinitely stopped her livestreams 'to prepare better content for future streams', but the general view is that the streams will never come back because of this incident.

4. Why did this Happen & Future

While the exact reasons for these changes have (obviously) never been released by Devsisters, there has been many speculation as to why the game is going in this direction.

If you remember the Cookierun:Kingdom incident where a post was made on Kingdom's Naver Cafe where it seemed like a regular user was saying that the company was likely in the red and the game is pretty cheap compared to other games. which led to speculation that an employee at Devsisters was trying to manipulate the views of the people to be more sympathetic of Devsisters.

Without analyzing that incident too much, it can be assumed that Devsisters really is losing money. Their new game, 'Dead Cide Club' failed to gain attraction, they likely spent large sums of money on Kingdom's Disney and BTS collabs, and they're still spending money developing future games such as ovensmash. It can be assumed that Devsisters is trying to get money from Ovenbreak users, an already well-established community, to fund them. As this is likely a serious issue for Devsisters, it is generally viewed that Devsisters will not go back on their changed of Ovenbreak like they did in Season 6. Essentially, they're taking the "Those who stay, stay" stance.

This is made worse by the already decreasing fan base of Ovenbreak. Ever since season 6, many players have left the game. Back then, there were enough people passionate enough to send a truck to Devsisters, but now there are not enough people anymore, and therefore no funds for a truck.

Personally, I truly think this could be the start of the end of Ovenbreak if nothing is done. Too many players have left already, and now an exponentially more amount of people will leave soon.

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