As we’re sure many of you have seen, TwoSet recently about someone “stealing” .
We’d like to address this video
TwoSet states in their video that since they were really busy in 2023, and they didn’t have enough moderators, they decided to “pause” the subreddit.
Eddy, himself, admits that he doesn’t understand how Reddit works.
Brett said that while we offered them moderatorship, we did not offer them “admin rights.”
Some definitions:
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“Admins” are the employees of Reddit.
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“Moderators” or “mods” are the people who are in charge of making sure the sub does not break Reddit’s rules.
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Moderators are volunteers and Reddit specifically prohibits moderators from taking moderation actions in exchange for any form of compensation, consideration, gift, or favor from or on behalf of third parties. (In other words, mods cannot be paid.)
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Modmail is Reddit's official way for moderators and users to communicate about subreddits. Modmails cannot be deleted or modified in any way.
According to Reddit’s , mods are not supposed to “camp” on subreddits. This means that “if a subreddit has been unmoderated for a significant amount of time,” Reddit will allow another user to request to take the community over, using Reddit Request. Before Reddit hands a community over to another user, Reddit reaches out to the existing mod team.
If TwoSet had made an announcement that they were restricting the sub, including the reasons for such restriction, and if they had been active on Reddit, then it’s probable the sub would have remained in their control, especially if they had responded to Reddit's message, to our attempts to contact them on Reddit in a timely manner, and had taken steps towards reopening the sub.
When the current top mod was added to the mod team, there was a large backlog of modmails from people asking to be added as users to the sub, and also a fair number of requests to help moderate the sub. There were also a few modmails asking for NSFW material to be removed from the sub.
These modmails went back months, if not over a year. In fact, on 29 August 2022, Reddit admins reached out because they had noticed that the sub was not being effectively moderated.
Timeline
15 November 2023: Modmail was sent asking what the plans were regarding the sub, since it had been restricted for over a month. - No response was received.
6 December 2023: Modmail was sent offering to join the mod team so the sub could be reopened. - No response was received.
6 December 2023: Reddit Request was made since the sub had been restricted for over two months.
6 December 2023: Modmail sent from Reddit Admins informing the mod team that someone was requesting the sub. The message informed the mod team that “if none of the moderators of this subreddit have been active within 14 days”, the sub might be reassigned to the requester.
11 December 2023: Reddit admins removed all members of the mod team from the subreddit.
11 December 2023: Reddit admins added the requester as a mod.
13 December 2023: TwoSetViolin reached out via chat.
13 December 2023: The discussion was moved to modmail to preserve the exchange (since modmails cannot be deleted). In the course of this conversation, it was explained that Reddit regards locking down any sub as abandonment.
13 December 2023: The requester added .
15 December 2023: u_TwoSetViolin was invited back to the mod team. The only relevant permission that was not enabled for them was the ability to change sub settings, so that they would be unable to restrict the sub again.
16 December 2023: TwoSet replied to the modmail discussion.
17 December 2023: replied to the modmail discussion, explaining that it was on behalf of the members of that the requester had acted according to Reddit’s process to request the sub and that it was due to their lack of communication on Reddit that led to the appearance of having abandoned the sub.
We offered to collaborate with them on the sub, pointing out that we had already invited them back as mods. We invited them specifically to help direct the tone of the sub.
We explained to TwoSet that we looked forward to returning full moderator permissions to them after a few months of working with them. As we explained to them, the permissions were only restricted so that the current mod team could ensure that the sub would remain open.
End of timeline
As of this post time, TwoSet has not replied, nor have they accepted their invitation to moderate.
We would welcome their return to the mod team, with the understanding that over time, they would earn back full permissions by showing that they have no further intention to restrict the sub in the future. Their invitation to moderate is still active and we have no plans to rescind it.
We’re glad that . They admit that they hadn’t had time to moderate this sub, and they’re ok with us managing the sub.
To be clear, Reddit owns the sub, not TwoSet, not the current mod team. Reddit are the admins. We are only the moderators. TwoSet did not reach out to the current mod team before posting their video.
We are moderating this sub on behalf of all the TwoSet fans who had lost their Reddit “home.” We intend to continue moderating this sub so that people can continue to have fun, while at the same time we strive to ensure the safety of all those who read this sub, including TwoSet’s young fans.
This is the ONLY thread in which this will be discussed. Any attempts to discuss this outside of this thread will be removed. Thank you for your cooperation with this!
