Really really wanted to like this as London is my home town... and the world environment is pretty close, albeit with some missing/scaled-down sections.

The biggest problem for me is the character design... they're all either hideously ugly, or bizarrely comical, wearing supremely odd clothes and with irritating voices. The characters also swear and use slang in a way nobody does in real life. It really takes you out of the moment. My first contact was with a guy with a comedy moustache that looked completely fake.

NPC behaviour is also erratic and broken. There seems to be a missing animation when people get out of moving cars.

Oh, they need to fix the HDR too... it's an eyesore.

I really hope they bother to patch some of this (it's only been out 2 months) and, given Canary Wharf is the true centre of finance in London, a DLC including that and the Isle of Dogs would be something I'd pay money for.

I was disappointed with the ending. Everything else was good but the ending left a sour taste in my mouth. The main baddie death was pathetic, all the other bosses had great deaths. They literally fall off a building and you don't even see them hit the ground it just cuts away. And then in the final task it just cut after completing the task, like yeah it's sad but end it with a boss battle or something like you can have a sad ending just make it a little bit intense.

I ran around as a construction worker with a nail gun, with a voice that didn’t match my character, this was a terrible terrible game. However London was quite cool.

I didn't like one at all but I bought it so I beat it, and that sucked so I skipped 2 but I am having a blast with legion

Are there any middle aged fat guys you can recruit. I have ideas.

It's aight

So far it’s just really clunky and looks like shit. Hopefully it looks better on ps5

I have wd 2 in my backlog, but this looks fun. Should I just wait and play wd2 first and wait for the inevitable Nov sale?

For those that can try/already playing as such. Does it have the option for HDR?

Okay so, I've almost 100% both Watch Dogs 1 & 2. One of the Biggest fans of the series that I decided to Pre-order the Collector's Edition of the Legion. I have about 6 hours into it. I got to say they changed way too much in this game compared to the other 2. Here's what I see wrong with the game and obviously this is just my opinion:

1.) One gadget slot; this is very annoying when you have to switch back and forth from the spider bot to a melee weapon?? or a cloaking ability?? like what

2.) No personal vehicles; Basically only way to travel anywhere is to steal cars off the street unless the Character you're playing as has a personal vehicle as a Perk (Which tends to be their only decent perk).

3.) Weapons are locked to each character. The Dedsec weapons that are universal are mediocre. So the only way to get decent weapons is to hunt down and recruit a hitman or Spy which can be very hard to find.

4.) The in-game currency you earn running around are only able to be spent on cosmetics and there's not a big selection from what I saw. then the tech point which are basically the new skill points are earned pretty easily in my opinion but the prices seem to kinda even it out.

FIXES I THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL:

- I REALLY think they need to bring back being able to purchase newer better weapons/ attachments to an extent the universial selection/ character weapon lock is just soooooo limiting for a WATCH DOGS GAME.

- Maybe for vehicles when you recruit someone into Dedsec it adds their vehicle to the TEAM'S vehicle list. That way you cant just buy the best vehicle in the game with the in-game currency, you have to hunt the person down that owns that unique vehicle and recruit them.

- Then honest to god just remove the one gadget slot. It defeats the purpose of being a Dedsec member that is supposed to have access to this arsenal of different tools to complete the missions.

Agree? Disagree? Let me know. I see a lot of potential in this game but it's hard to me to consider it a Watch Dogs sequel when it got rid of/ changed so many of it's main mechanics or how you played the game. Hopefully everything made sense.

If you read this far, thank you lol

I took a break from Trails of Cold Steel IV last night to try out Watch Dogs. It's kind of cool, but I'm not really sure how I feel about it yet. The driving feels clunky as hell, but I did have a bit of fun running around the city as a bare knuckle boxer I recruited, stripped down to his underwear, just starting fist fights left and right. I also spent like an hour sitting on a cargo drone, hacking cars at an intersection, causing all kinds of mayhem, explosions, and death. I've barely done any story missions really so I can't really form an opinion of the game overall.

It seems interesting, but I'm not in love with it yet. I was back to playing Trails IV today and probably won't get back to Watch Dogs until I finish that - and I imagine it'll be around the time the new Assassin's Creed comes out, so I may just jump right into that next. Seems like a cool game though, even if it won't end up being one of my favorites.

I’ve read many of the comments about how it’s kinda worse than Watchdogs 2 and it makes me wonder if it is on purpose to boost its greatness on the next gen consoles.

I know a couple of people that worked on WD2 and helped on WDL. WDL is made by Toronto instead of the Montreal team and I was told that they pretty scrapped everything from WD2 and started anew for Legion. My friend told me it was a pain because they encounter the same problems they had on the second game that had been fixed or knew how to handle but now they had to deal with Toronto. No wonder the game runs like crap.

2 of them asked specifically to change project because they didn't wanted to deal with Toronto anymore lol

I just wanted to know if I buy the game now on ps4 when I download it on ps5 if it’s going to run like a next gen game or a ps4 just that I’m playing it on ps5

I've only played a few hours last night, and while I'm enjoying it so far, I do agree with the other comments that it definitely feels like a step down from WD2.

I hate the driving in this game, it feels so out of control, even with the sensitivity right down. Also, while I know you can hijack drones that are flying around, I miss just having my own that I can just release whenever I need it.

Some of the voice acting is particularly cringy. I started with a guy that sounded like a caricature, with overuse of slang and whatnot.

I do like the idea of playing as other people though. I've only recruited one other person so far, but I'm interested in exploring that more.

I'm sitting here with an up opened copy of this game wondering if I should return it. Will the PS5 upgrade do it justice, or will it remain as shitty as people say? Debating about returning the game and getting Miles Morales Ultimate Edition and waiting to see if Watch Dogs or AC are on sale around X-mas time.

I grabbed it due to cyberpunk being delayed and I'm quite enjoying it.

It's not great, I've had a few issues with it crashing and one time I followed someone into a room which needed a key card killed them then couldn't get out due to the key holder being off somewhere else, I tried to collect it with my spider bot but ended up having to quit the game.

Another slight annoyance is that songs don't seem to keep going if I'm not on the station. I don't mean the issue others have with regard to having to be in a menu to listen to audio files but on the radio. If a song comes on I don't want to listen to I'll skip to a diff station go back after 5 mins and the song is carried on from where I left it. Like it's been paused. So sick of only one pod cast episode playing every time I get in a car too.

I suspect a patch will fix some issues but I recall playing watchdogs 2 and getting bored, I found I was playing just to finish it rather than because I enjoyed it. So I sold it before I finished.

I look forward to seeing the upgrade on next gen but I doubt it'll be ground breaking.

All that being said, I'm liking exploring and although a lot of areas are vastly different from actual London there's plenty of recognisable bits too. I'd say it's worth playing but not for full price.

i really wanted to get this, i'm not so sure now

I want to delete a few operators on PS4. Can’t seem to find the option. Can anyone help?

Let me start of by saying London is pretty in some places and fun to explore for few hours.And playing as anyone is fun for about 4 hours or till you get your special operator, then mostly you wont change. Same goes for recuriting operators, it is fun for the first 10 times you do it.

The story is a bit meh for me. The big feature of, play as anyone is a bit of white lie cause you have a set of skills which is shared between all the people most of which useless. Most mission are drag cause they just pull you from one corner of London to another. The sandbox nature of the world keeps you motivated to experiment for a while ,but after a while all mission feel the same. Go hack a camera find a spider bot open doors get info/explode a ctos sever/kill a VIP etc.

The character animation are locked that is each "class" has a punch animation, dodge animation and a finish animation which repeat no matter how many fights you get into.Same for the takedowns.

The driving is a joke, but to be honest it was garbage in all the perivous games.Mini games are just that.The cops are annoying but with hacking its like look back make their cars go sideways not really a threat.

I had high expectations for this game, disappointed on the execution of the world and the missions.The problem with this game is that it does not have one thing that would make the gameplay loop fun or engaging. It's water down version of other ubisoft games. I would say buy it on sale or in a year if it as a free game.

Wrong direction for the series. Hoping for a reboot of the series

This is a real disappointment.

Mediocre graphics and moronic AI, features removed that were in previous games. The world feels so dead, cars move like shit, voice acting is awful.

Really hope AC:Valhalla is better...

I'll say I have a lot of respect for Ubisoft for building a game around an experimental mechanic that must have been incredibly resource intensive to implement.

That said, I think almost every element of the game presentation feels like a downgrade from Watchdogs 2 though. Map and menus are ugly and hard to read, voice acting isn't great (but understandable given the bulk of VAing they probably need), graphically its not wowing me. The most baffling thing I've seen so far is that you can only listen to voicelogs in-menu - which in an open world game sort of defeats the purpose.

I'm still looking forward to playing more of this in the sort of absent minded, multitasking way I play every Ubisoft game, but I may just install WD2 at some point and play that instead.

Even my friend who loved watchdogs 2 returned the game today after playing 6-7 hours last night. Game is just plain bad for a 2020 AAA title. Feels it should be a 65 meta rather than even near 75. Got to play 3 hours at his place.

Also couple of gimmicks don't make for innovation. It's still a cookie cutter ubisoft junk type of game but even less polished than usual. Like they just copy paste stuff and put no effort into their games. Felt similarly about odyssey too which was not janky but just copy-paste grind fest to get people to buy microtransactions.

I think Farcry 5 was the worst AAA game I've seen this gen in terms of gameplay and this isnt far off from that.

I just dont understand why people buy ubisoft games at full price when pretty much every single AAA game out there is better.

Check your emails if you platinumed WD 1+2, because Ubisoft sent me a code for the Ultimate Edition for being "one of the biggest Watchdogs fans in Canada."

So that's cool.

To those who own the game, how are the graphics? I saw a comparison on YouTube and was disappointed that AC Syndicate looked better

I'm getting it torrmow but this game is causing x box to overheat so I wonder what it's going to do on the ps4

Ridiculous performance issues on og ps4. I Go too fast it freezes for a couple seconds. Constant screen tearing. If there's dialogue and decent amount of stuff going on it gets choppy with lots of static. Idk if they rushed it or if it just cant run on old ps4 or maybe its just me.

I wouldn't say I'm not enjoying it, because I am...but it's a step down from WD2. Movement is clunkier and feels less fluid to get around. The world also feels a bit less "Alive" than 2. 2 was great for just walking around and listening to convos and interacting with NPCs. Not that this one doesn't have that at all, but there doesn't seem to be as much randomness and interaction.

However the recruiting aspect is fun, and permadeath makes me rethink how I'm approaching certain missions and who I want to risk losing. (I lost 2 recruits on a pretty standard side mission and was devastated haha) If you were a fan of WD2, just set your expectations that it's a bit of a step back and I think you'll have a good time with it.

Have played for 6 hours now. Can't really say that I'm enjoying it. Feels too clunky.

As a Londoner, I'm mainly excited about just wandering around London in this game and going to places I recognise.