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Playing as an old lady in Watch Dogs: Legion (gfycat.com)

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[–]TheRealRedbox 11.0k points11.0k points  (196 children)

Experienced. Not old.

[–]ElTuxedoMex 2526 points2527 points  (88 children)

Vintage, not outdated.

[–]iceman012 1340 points1341 points  (81 children)

Legacy, not modern.

[–]Dasheek 763 points764 points  (66 children)

Rustic, not rural.

[–]Apiuis 635 points636 points  (63 children)

Grandma, not mom

[–]Jahkusa 518 points519 points  (58 children)

Mature, not Granny

[–]sauvy-savvy 427 points428 points  (45 children)

Fan food, not fast food

[–]ThatITguy2015 447 points448 points  (35 children)

Not bread, but smells like it.

[–]lurk_thrown 179 points180 points  (16 children)

Halt!

[–][deleted] 190 points191 points  (12 children)

YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE LAW! PAY THE COURT A FINE OR SERVE YOUR SENTENCE!

[–]decoy777 31 points32 points  (2 children)

And Catch Fire!

[–]John_Enigma 40 points41 points  (1 child)

Not butter, but I can't believe.

[–]YellowBlackFlowers 41 points42 points  (2 children)

Old but not obsolete

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    [–]Kettlebob16 43 points44 points  (1 child)

    Not delivery, Digiorno.

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            [–]Wampa9090 65 points66 points  (2 children)

            /r/suddenlyMTG

            [–]Osiris360 30 points31 points  (1 child)

            Yo I was thinking the exact same thing.

            [–]KDC003Switch 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            Let's all sub to this place so it will become big overnight.

            [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (3 children)

            I'll stick with Modern. Don't have to buy ABUR duals.

            [–]BEENHEREALLALONG 15 points16 points  (2 children)

            You don’t like spending $2000 on 4 lands?

            [–]barcanator 7 points8 points  (1 child)

            $200 on 4 lands in modern is bad enough

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                [–]Ladnil 592 points593 points  (20 children)

                RED - Retired and Extremely Dangerous

                That was a surprisingly fun movie.

                [–]Ruungur 242 points243 points  (14 children)

                So was RED 2.

                Both are completely worth watching.

                [–]Ladnil 63 points64 points  (11 children)

                I didn't even know they made a second one, I'll have to look for that, thanks

                [–]puddlejumpers 77 points78 points  (8 children)

                Helen Mirren steals the show, IMO.

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                      [–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (1 child)

                      Haha I love how the whole subplot is everyone trying to get Moses to take the next step with his girlfriend XD

                      [–]DaemonKeido 23 points24 points  (0 children)

                      Gotta make that run for emotional cover.

                      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                      I AM GETTING THE PIG

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                        [–]psicowysiwyg 257 points258 points  (39 children)

                        That's set off an excellent idea in me! An rpg where you level up the usual way, but once you hit max level and have all your skills etc, every additional level is your character aging, you still keep the skills, but the character just responds a little slower and does slightly less damage, it would basically just gradually increase the difficulty, while still leaving you with the same abilities.

                        [–]Hey_Its_Crosby 167 points168 points  (13 children)

                        There are aging rules in many versions of dnd where you lose STR and CON but gain WIS and INT as you get old. I had to use them once when a cursed magic ring turned my bard into an old man.

                        [–]Aurora_Fatalis 118 points119 points  (9 children)

                        I once rolled a 3 for Constitution on my Wizard. That's 1d4 - 4 max hp on level-up, so I just naturally died of old age.

                        Yes I know there's a ruling saying to disregard this exact scenario but fuck it our group rolled with it and it was hilarious

                        [–]SmartAlec105 22 points23 points  (5 children)

                        In Pathfinder (basically D&D 3.75) you can be level 1 with negative max HP in a way that does bypass the "minimum 1 on leveling" rule.

                        [–]flyingtrucky 17 points18 points  (1 child)

                        So what happens? Underflow error making you invincible or literally spawnkilled?

                        [–]SmartAlec105 20 points21 points  (0 children)

                        Depends. If you have 1 Con, then you're dead (and then exploded as a side effect) because you're at -2 Max HP which is higher in magnitude than your Con score. If you have 2 Con, you're at -1 which is lower in magnitude than your Con score so you are just in a permanent coma.

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                          [–]Thunderclapsasquatch 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                          While not that decrepit, I did once play a Sorcerer/Wizard (not fuzzy memory, those were his actual classes) with a CON and strength of 6. between his obvious frailty and the fact that the world we were in all arcane magic had a substantial chance to horribly backfire the GM and I came up with the idea of his familiar being replaced with his brother, it ended up snowballing into that being a clan tradition, the magically nonproficient among them protect those that are. It wasnt until later that I realized I had recreated Raistlin and Caramon Majere

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                              [–]Sivad94 50 points51 points  (3 children)

                              This happened visually in the old Fable games. You gradually got older and more scarred up. Pretty cool.

                              [–]Diablerie13 20 points21 points  (3 children)

                              If you have Oculus VR I recommend Chronos. It's a fantasy action RPG that's also roguelike. You Start at 18 and every time you die you come back one year older. I think I first beat the game in my 40's. Stats level up differently as you get into the older age too. Less strength points to give out and more mental. The visuals are stunning too. But you don't move the character in traditional VR. Your headset is the camera angle and you control the character with a controller.

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                                [–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

                                Old, not obsolete - T800

                                [–]Cactooooos_Switch 92 points93 points  (3 children)

                                Hotel. Not Trivago

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                                  [–]MrSimsy1 4075 points4076 points  (202 children)

                                  Just watched the full trailer and I’ll tell you one thing. The map is spot on. I live a 10 minute walk from Camden Market and apart from obvious changes, that is exactly the same set up, even that horse statue is in the market 👍🏻

                                  [–]FedoraFerret 2164 points2165 points  (112 children)

                                  I've been watching my mom play the Division 2 as someone who's spent the last 3 years driving all over DC five days a week. She literally loaded up the game and this was the exchange.

                                  Mom: Okay now where am I? Me, before she can even pull up the map: "You're on 19th and Mass Ave."

                                  It was freaky.

                                  [–]MrSimsy1 810 points811 points  (35 children)

                                  I was naming the streets the cab was driving up during the gameplay 😂 I’m hoping I can find my house as long as it’s not taken over by ctos 😂

                                  [–]Bad_Chemistry 281 points282 points  (32 children)

                                  I really do think that Boston/the Boston Area (where I’m from) would be a fantastic setting for a Watch Dogs game (better than San Fransisco...)

                                  I’m still waiting...

                                  [–]MrSimsy1 185 points186 points  (17 children)

                                  Honestly I don’t know any games other than Fallout 4 which have done Boston and it’s a beautiful city, hopefully games begin to expand their horizons and start doing new cities and locations which haven’t been covered 👍🏻

                                  [–]cravenj1 206 points207 points  (5 children)

                                  Assassin's Creed 3 has a nice representation of Boston, but it's in the late 1700's.

                                  [–]MrSimsy1 79 points80 points  (0 children)

                                  Ohh yeah my mistake and I LOVED AC 3. A modern day Boston would be cool though.

                                  [–]Hikaru321 55 points56 points  (3 children)

                                  From Boston, can confirm, the driving manners of the horse drawn carriages are spot on. All assholes.

                                  [–]jjpearson 34 points35 points  (3 children)

                                  It was so strange the first time I went to the Boston Common.

                                  I was all, "this seems really familiar" and I couldn't really understand why, until I realized the first time I had been to Boston Common was in Fallout 4.

                                  It was a really trippy experience.

                                  [–]BlackWalrusYeets 23 points24 points  (2 children)

                                  Oh hey, I'm from Boston and I had the same thing happen to me when I went to Florence, from Assassin's Creed 2(?) First day in town was freaky as fuck until I saw the Domo (big fucking tower) and then it all clicked. Didn't need a map all week, couldn't get lost if I tried. I'm not sure if the game was that accurate or it was a confidence placebo but whatever, cool shit.

                                  [–]JessenReinhart 20 points21 points  (1 child)

                                  did you climb the tower to synchronize ?

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                                        [–][deleted] 193 points194 points  (56 children)

                                        Wait, your mom plays The Division 2?

                                        [–]RogueVector 192 points193 points  (24 children)

                                        And here my mom can't figure out how to look up from her feet when I managed to convince her to play Halo 3 way back when.

                                        Props to u/FedoraFerret 's mom

                                        [–]SirHaxe 32 points33 points  (3 children)

                                        my mom hates games, she cant even figure out how the tv remote works :(

                                        [–]CatManDontDo 18 points19 points  (1 child)

                                        I feel like this needs to be a support subreddit

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                                          [–]carnage11eleven 50 points51 points  (12 children)

                                          To be fair, my girlfriend tried playing RDR2 because she liked the horses, and she ended up running around in circles because she couldn't learn the controls.

                                          If you're not use to using the current gen controllers it's not as easy as it looks.

                                          [–]jaboi1080p 34 points35 points  (6 children)

                                          I remember my girlfriend wanted to try Just Cause 2 (on the xbox) back in the day and just couldn't get a handle on the controls. Made me realize how we take for granted the standard dual stick movement/camera controls being intuitive and easy but they really do take some getting used to

                                          [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                                          Yeah I have fired up my Playstation 1 and tried to play Medal of Honor a few times for fun and the controls without analog sticks are so difficult.

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                                                [–]InjuredGingerAvenger 74 points75 points  (14 children)

                                                Main stream at-home gaming is reaching the age is reaching a point where people who grew up with it have kids in high school. The gamecube turns 18 this year.

                                                [–]StochasticLife 44 points45 points  (9 children)

                                                You SHUT YOUR MOUTH!

                                                Omg! I’m HOW CLOSE to 40?!

                                                [–]InjuredGingerAvenger 26 points27 points  (8 children)

                                                Federer is 37 and in contention for best active player in his sport. You're not old until you quit doing.

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                                                  [–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (9 children)

                                                  My mom is dead

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                                                      [–]Jainko32 168 points169 points  (11 children)

                                                      Ubisoft always makes the best environments. They do so much research and pay such close attention to detail to create perfect landscapes. Then the story drops off halfway through the game turning many amazing titles into moderately fun sandboxes.

                                                      [–][deleted] 163 points164 points  (21 children)

                                                      Piccadilly and Tottenham was awesome, im hyped to see what else is in the map.

                                                      [–]kadno 25 points26 points  (0 children)

                                                      I peed at a Burger King in Piccadilly when I was like 13. The sign said bathrooms were for customers only, but I really had to pee. I hope that Burger King makes it into the game so I can say sorry

                                                      [–]MrSimsy1 67 points68 points  (5 children)

                                                      You know that place called “exmod” with green neon letters? Is that Cyberdog?? 😂😂

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                                                        [–]Thatbrownmonster_ 48 points49 points  (3 children)

                                                        They even made their own version of cyberdog if you pay atenttion!!

                                                        Really hope we can enter it

                                                        [–]MrSimsy1 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                                                        Mate I took a picture of it!! It’s called EXMOD and it looks mad! There’s 2 other places I saw that look really familiar but can’t tell where they are. I know I saw Kings Cross though

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                                                          [–]Ioan_Ranger 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                                                          I live in Belsize and goddamn if im not gonna buy this game just to see if i can go to my house

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                                                            [–]drgonzodan 262 points263 points  (6 children)

                                                            No one respected her until she put on the mask

                                                            [–]devilkingx2 26 points27 points  (0 children)

                                                            Her victims had a lotta loyalty for hired guns

                                                            [–]mushroomwig 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                                                            If I pull it off will she die?

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                                                              [–][deleted] 2608 points2609 points  (52 children)

                                                              She’ll fuck you up, and then leave you with a batch of homemade chocolate chip cookies to ease the pain.

                                                              [–]shawncplus 463 points464 points  (42 children)

                                                              Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot!

                                                              [–]dwayne_rooney 226 points227 points  (35 children)

                                                              Fun fact: Arnold trolled Stallone into doing this movie.
                                                              https://www.vulture.com/2017/10/schwarzenegger-tricked-stallone-into-starring-in-a-bad-movie.html

                                                              [–]Pumpkin_Creepface 146 points147 points  (33 children)

                                                              Pretty sure Stallone tried to get him back by pushing Last Action Hero but that backfired as that movie basically cemented Arnie's cinematic future.

                                                              And Booyyyy did he need it after Kindergarten Cop...

                                                              EDIT: I never said KC was bad please read below before clogging up this thread with "whoah dude" spam.

                                                              [–]Scrtcwlvl 114 points115 points  (15 children)

                                                              I'm not sure what you mean, Kindergarten Cop still is a timeless classic.

                                                              [–]the_jak 55 points56 points  (1 child)

                                                              IT'S NOT A TUMOR!

                                                              [–]VaATC 21 points22 points  (0 children)

                                                              IT'S NOT A TOOMA!

                                                              [–]creampielegacy 32 points33 points  (0 children)

                                                              Good morning. Today, I’m going to ask you a few simple questions. And I want them answered immediately.

                                                              Who is ya daddy, and what does he do?

                                                              [–]aaronthenia 24 points25 points  (5 children)

                                                              "Boys have a penis and girls have a vagina."

                                                              [–]Pumpkin_Creepface 13 points14 points  (4 children)

                                                              For the public yeah, but it tarnished his image for a while to producers.

                                                              Personally I think it is what showed Arnie's true chops as an actor, but typecasting the tough guy has always been a thing and it's scary to see your gun swinging commando's soft side exposed because that may mean lesser ticket sales from their core demographic.

                                                              T2 was contractual and proved he still had the steel in his soul, and LAH just tweaked the noses of all the 'guts and guns' producers.

                                                              Honestly, LAH is still one of my favorite movies.

                                                              [–]Starslip 8 points9 points  (2 children)

                                                              I feel like Last Action Hero is one of those movies that has gained appreciation later on while at the time it was released it kind of confused or irritated people, as they were still very much in love with those over-the-top ridiculous action heroes that it was mocking. I don't recall it being terribly well reviewed, but as a look back at all the stereotypical tropes of those movies crammed into one, it's fantastic.

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                                                                  [–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (1 child)

                                                                  Dude, don’t insult Kindergarten Cop, young me loved it

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                                                                      [–]JonDoesSomeThings 22 points23 points  (1 child)

                                                                      This is a whole movie if comedy heaven

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                                                                        [–]alucard971 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                                                        You'll go home broken, but never hungry!

                                                                        [–]H3R0F0RH1R3 15 points16 points  (1 child)

                                                                        She's English so it's more likely to be homemade scones.

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                                                                          [–]flamethekid 1430 points1431 points  (98 children)

                                                                          Unlike watch dogs 2 you seem like you actually have a reason and motivation to use the guns in the game.

                                                                          In watch dog 2 I just couldn't see the main characters using a gun.

                                                                          [–]TFtatoPC 234 points235 points  (8 children)

                                                                          That’s why I tried to not use the guns. If anything, I only used the Taser and CTRL+ALT+DLT launcher.

                                                                          You know, for the chaos!

                                                                          [–]KateA535 134 points135 points  (3 children)

                                                                          Yeah I saw the guns and didn't care. Also didn't the taser have unlimited ammo? I liked fucking with people through hacking and using the taser where needed.

                                                                          [–]DevelopedDevelopment 92 points93 points  (2 children)

                                                                          Taser did have unlimited ammo. Plus IIRC it was quiet too so using it in stealth wasn't bad.

                                                                          Watchdogs needed to be more about.

                                                                          [–]scorpionjacket2 18 points19 points  (0 children)

                                                                          I used the paintball gun to get out of sticky situations, but that was it.

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                                                                            [–]MightySqueak 892 points893 points  (16 children)

                                                                            Oi u got a loicence for that rocket launcher

                                                                            [–]cubic1776 255 points256 points  (12 children)

                                                                            Um... n-no officer.

                                                                            [–]RikenVorkovin 143 points144 points  (1 child)

                                                                            I don't need no loicence to pull this trigger do I?

                                                                            "Booooosh"

                                                                            [–]RhysNorro 84 points85 points  (0 children)

                                                                            Do yeu hav yer trigger loicense? How 'bout yer murder permit?

                                                                            Everything seems good, go ahead 'n kill me

                                                                            [–]Fergom 29 points30 points  (9 children)

                                                                            Oi do you have a loicence to say no

                                                                            [–]Ultimatro 27 points28 points  (0 children)

                                                                            You got a loicence to ask for moi loicence

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                                                                              [–]MyUshanka 105 points106 points  (11 children)

                                                                              This is partially why I never finished WD2. I've always been a "loud and dumb" over "quiet and clean" type of guy, and while technically you can play the whole game lethally it feels way off, tonally.

                                                                              My breaking point was the Alcatraz mission. In breaking the guy out I killed probably 20+ PMCs. After the mission, there's a cutscene straight out of a sitcom where Marcus flops on the couch and quips "Man, I'm not going to Alcatraz ever again!" It felt like it was missing a cheap laugh track.

                                                                              WD1 handled aggressive tactics much better due to Aiden... not really having a personality, plus everyone was kinda scared of him regardless of his body count. Marcus and Dedsec is just too quirky and upbeat, it makes the game feel weird.

                                                                              [–]Fifteen_inches 76 points77 points  (7 children)

                                                                              Aiden felt more like John Wick. He was a man on a rampage and I wish WD1 leaned into that more. You can be a pale rider felling men like wheat to a reaper, or you can be the knife in the dark; slowly, gently, that is how a life is taken. But you must kill.

                                                                              WD2 should have really leaned into the stealth and interconnectivity, and social engineering to get though the world.

                                                                              As it stands, they don’t lean into either and the game suffers from it

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                                                                                [–]FaerhunPC 37 points38 points  (0 children)

                                                                                You could just straight murder with impunity most of the time too, was kinda weird. lol

                                                                                [–]Top_Hat_God 21 points22 points  (1 child)

                                                                                Big Spoiler!

                                                                                I think using guns narratively made sense in the avenge Horatio mission, but that’s it. Honestly, just knocking out his killers felt weird. Marcus hits the boss of the Tezcas in the face. “That was for Horatio! We did it, guys.”

                                                                                [–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (2 children)

                                                                                I played through mostly non lethal, just using the whip and hacking stuff, tho I was not above making it look like an accident if it was a cool accident.

                                                                                [–]Kinglink 29 points30 points  (2 children)

                                                                                Well it sounds like they stopped the "We're non violent" bullshit. If they stopped spouting that, Watchdogs 2 would have made a lot more thematic sense.

                                                                                I mean I can even give them "They never explicitly make you kill anyone." until the end where they give a character a god damn grenade launcher and act like this is internally consistent.

                                                                                [–]jonydevidson 12 points13 points  (1 child)

                                                                                If you set the difficulty to realistic, getting into an open gunfire would result in you going down in about 3 seconds, so going non lethal made more sense.

                                                                                I wish there was some kind of Wanted system that would have the police and the crowd more on the lookout for you if you were killing people. Like the reputation system from WD1 (where people would call cops on you all the time if they saw you just walking around). That wasn't really half bad, I don't know why they took it out. Should've just amped it to 11 for the Realistic difficulty.

                                                                                [–]AbanaClara 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                                                                                My head canon in using guns in WD2 is that Dedsec is still an armed rebellion and will go extreme lengths in case of opposition and when they no longer have any choice.

                                                                                I only used guns in a few quests so I guess I lived up to my head canon

                                                                                Also i didnt mind shooting the shit out of gangs

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                                                                                  [–]Odderpop7 649 points650 points  (11 children)

                                                                                  How I imagine the queen spends her evenings.

                                                                                  [–]BrittanDC 79 points80 points  (4 children)

                                                                                  I really need this video set to the Golden Girls theme song.

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                                                                                    [–]Jiffletta 246 points247 points  (9 children)

                                                                                    I really hope that you can invest upgrade points to unlock her greatest weapon - the handbag with a brick in it.

                                                                                    [–]-FeistyRabbitSauce- 49 points50 points  (2 children)

                                                                                    "That's my purse, I don't know you!" Kick in the nuts

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                                                                                      [–]GroenboysSwitch 1480 points1481 points  (169 children)

                                                                                      Honestly this game actually looks pretty alright. Definitely the best game shown at Ubisofts E3 conference.

                                                                                      [–]Gibslayer 671 points672 points  (82 children)

                                                                                      Yea it looked alright gameplay wise.

                                                                                      The only thing that really bugged me was the voice acting and dialogue writing.

                                                                                      At least to me it felt like a poorly done caricature of British mannerisms. It was so over the top with its performance's which really put me off. It's like the writers are trying to remind you every sentence that the game is set in London. The humour as well felt rather forced and clunky.

                                                                                      But then again, I'm British. So maybe that's why I find the dialog unbearably over the top. Just felt like a really cliche portrayal of British speech.

                                                                                      [–]Beasthemu8 310 points311 points  (27 children)

                                                                                      It was as if they tried to fit in as many british slang words as possible, im also British so maybe thats why i notice it.

                                                                                      [–]Gibslayer 189 points190 points  (16 children)

                                                                                      And swear words every other word. Don't get me wrong, people in the UK aren't afraid to swear and we swear in casual conversation like it's nothing. I'm fine with swear words in games and media.

                                                                                      But the way it was thrown in just came across, at least to me, like they were trying to be like "Ooo we can throw in bad words because that's how we think British people speak".

                                                                                      Caricature is the most apt word I can think of for it. It was very distracting in the gameplay they showed and honestly I think if I played the game it'd annoy me enough to stop playing.

                                                                                      I don't remember the WatchDog games set in the US being quite THAT over the top with their dialog.

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                                                                                        [–]Kaizenno 84 points85 points  (3 children)

                                                                                        overbearingly over the top

                                                                                        Spot on ol' chap. Bloody brilliant if I don't say so me self I did I did..

                                                                                        [–]Gibslayer 35 points36 points  (2 children)

                                                                                        Did you know it's set in London? They were real subtle about it.

                                                                                        [–]BerossusZ 25 points26 points  (1 child)

                                                                                        It's funny I felt the same exact way and I'm American, but I thought maybe it's just because I don't know exactly how British people talk all the time and this might be fairly accurate. So I think you're 100% right

                                                                                        [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

                                                                                        I’m a kiwi and I noticed that aswell. Also most of their lips don’t move while dialogue is playing 😬

                                                                                        [–]Tech-Kid96 8 points9 points  (3 children)

                                                                                        The cockney accent. They always go for some form of the cockney accent. It's not the only accent around, you hardly hear it in London.

                                                                                        [–]Gibslayer 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                                                                                        Cockney accent and it tends to be a really blokey bloke.

                                                                                        I long for the day someone actually tries to make a Rodney like character in a game.

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                                                                                            [–]QuadraKev_ 89 points90 points  (14 children)

                                                                                            You could say that about the other Watch Dogs games. "Pretty alright."

                                                                                            I know the whole Watch Dogs graphics thing was shitty, but it wasn't really that big of a blight on the game.

                                                                                            [–][deleted] 66 points67 points  (7 children)

                                                                                            I really liked 2, it had pretty much all the things I'd love in a techy open world game. It was just missing something that made it great. Maybe it's as simple as just having really visceral and detailed animations and physics like GTAV/RDR2 I'm not sure, it just doesn't quite reach that level?

                                                                                            [–]metalshiflet 8 points9 points  (2 children)

                                                                                            The multiplayer was great though, I loved the hacking without being caught

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                                                                                                [–]princessDB 74 points75 points  (7 children)

                                                                                                Edna?!

                                                                                                [–]lightninglobster 28 points29 points  (1 child)

                                                                                                WEE WOO WEE WOO

                                                                                                [–]Bosco215 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                bogaLeak

                                                                                                [–]BunToniO 12 points13 points  (1 child)

                                                                                                Justice provides!

                                                                                                [–]princessDB 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                Justice!

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                                                                                                  [–]InquisitorHindsight 317 points318 points  (8 children)

                                                                                                  RED

                                                                                                  Retired, Extremely Dangerous

                                                                                                  [–]res30stupidPlayStation 54 points55 points  (3 children)

                                                                                                  Funnily, old ladies can be retired assassins so this could be it.

                                                                                                  [–]Holden-McRoyne 37 points38 points  (2 children)

                                                                                                  That's exactly what this character is, as shown in the trailer, iirc

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                                                                                                    [–]Pakmanjosh 57 points58 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                    Who would win?

                                                                                                    A totalitarian cyber regime.

                                                                                                    One old lady.

                                                                                                    [–]leorlev[S] 135 points136 points  (13 children)

                                                                                                    From the E3 gameplay walkthrough.

                                                                                                    [–]scorpionjacket2 45 points46 points  (1 child)

                                                                                                    the multiple characters thing is cool and all, but I don't understand why you would want to play as anyone besides an old lady

                                                                                                    [–]MaxGamingGG 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                    She'd die dodge rolling.

                                                                                                    [–]DopestDope42069 79 points80 points  (5 children)

                                                                                                    Kitboga is going to need some residuals.

                                                                                                    [–]rickerlol 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                    Delivering justice!

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                                                                                                      [–]MrSimsy1 204 points205 points  (48 children)

                                                                                                      Hold the fuck up, this is real?? Like actually what was showed? Or is this a goof??

                                                                                                      [–]jedimika 333 points334 points  (20 children)

                                                                                                      Legit.

                                                                                                      You can have a whole squad of old ladies if you want.

                                                                                                      [–]Jamies_redditAccount 208 points209 points  (5 children)

                                                                                                      Yea the only real way I'm gunna play this game

                                                                                                      [–]DaughterEarth 65 points66 points  (2 children)

                                                                                                      That's what I said! I want an army of old folks

                                                                                                      [–]titaniumjordi 66 points67 points  (1 child)

                                                                                                      Nah, gimme a squad of bald meatheads like the guy who straight up fucking died in the presentation

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                                                                                                        [–]darthcake 25 points26 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                        30 Helens agree: this is a really good idea.

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                                                                                                          [–]decoy777 80 points81 points  (19 children)

                                                                                                          Everyone in the game can be recruited to the cause, you can play as anyone. So you can build a team of old ladies to cause chaos. And from the looks of their gameplay when you go down you can kinda give up or fight on. But if you go down again after fighting on you die and it's permadeath.

                                                                                                          [–]FlexibleBanana 11 points12 points  (4 children)

                                                                                                          So is everyone in the game a ‘retired Assassin’ or former spec ops? Can I recruit like an insurance salesman with no combat experience? It would be kinda weird if everyone in the game has the same conveniently helpful backstories.

                                                                                                          [–]decoy777 31 points32 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                          Well as you can see the old lady does kicks to the shines. And doesn't go over the railing very quickly. So age and such does seem to play a part in their movement and fighting. In sure a young 20 something athletic person would be much quicker than the old lady too. So if they can pull off each type of person it could work. And they mentioned each person you recruit has their own first mission, I'm assuming to give you a reason as to why they'd want to join up with DedSec. The first guy in the video has bonus to melee fighting. People he scans shows their bonuses. One guy says "May die randomly" because he's addicted to adrenaline but has +100% damage.

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                                                                                                              [–]res30stupidPlayStation 47 points48 points  (4 children)

                                                                                                              The game lets you recruit most npcs as DedSec members including gangsters, thugs, police officers and old ladies (the one in the trailer is a former assassin). This is mainly due to the game's use of permadeath.

                                                                                                              [–]dhrime46 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                              Yeah this was in the trailer.

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                                                                                                                [–]ArthurExtreme_BrPC 31 points32 points  (2 children)

                                                                                                                honestly if she dies in my game ill reload the save

                                                                                                                [–]BatierAutumn1991 27 points28 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                “That’s for canceling Days of our Lives”

                                                                                                                [–]orgeezuz 94 points95 points  (2 children)

                                                                                                                Her name is Helen and she doesn't need your disrespect you llittle brat!

                                                                                                                [–]Endarkend 92 points93 points  (6 children)

                                                                                                                This genuinely sold me on this game.

                                                                                                                I'll build an army of grannies that'll save London.

                                                                                                                [–]Pat_Mate 24 points25 points  (2 children)

                                                                                                                Leaving a trail of chocolate chip cookies in their wake.

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                                                                                                                  [–]NETGEAR1993 18 points19 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                  The motions are so accurate, like the walk and slight lack of balance.

                                                                                                                  [–]shuabrazy 20 points21 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                  The way she runs gets me every time lol

                                                                                                                  [–]Dysheekie 50 points51 points  (27 children)

                                                                                                                  Can you really play as any NPC or is there a select group? If it’s everyone, how did they voice act and create stories for every NPC?

                                                                                                                  [–]dhrime46 111 points112 points  (10 children)

                                                                                                                  Their claim is that it's "everyone". But we'll see what "everyone" really means.

                                                                                                                  [–]blupeli 65 points66 points  (3 children)

                                                                                                                  Probably some pre defined stories/voices for some categories like old lady, young hacker or whatever.

                                                                                                                  [–]MadmanEpic 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                                                                                                                  The PC Gamer demo impressions article confirms this; they have around 20 archetypes for characters that are applied to people with randomized appearances and a few specific traits, and once you recruit them you can choose to set them to a shooty class, a sneaky class, or a hacky class.

                                                                                                                  [–]FlexibleBanana 26 points27 points  (5 children)

                                                                                                                  I really hope that some of “everyone” are just like regular guys with no special skill set. Can I recruit an elementary teacher? Or will the entire population of London be former assassins?

                                                                                                                  [–]banned_man 39 points40 points  (4 children)

                                                                                                                  Judging by the trailer, it seems everyone was an expert on some things, which does felt weird.

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                                                                                                                  On the other hand, one of the "hero" shown was a traffic cop, which begs the question of how far can we push "anyone"; can the bad guys be recruited?

                                                                                                                  [–]Meawth 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                  I think there is going to be a few outliers, but as long as they hate the "new world order" im sure thats who you can recruit

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                                                                                                                    [–]DaughterEarth 29 points30 points  (3 children)

                                                                                                                    They definitely confirmed you can recruit everyone. How deep that goes for playing as them is not very clear yet.

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                                                                                                                      [–]one_little-boi 132 points133 points  (29 children)

                                                                                                                      Yes another watch dogs game

                                                                                                                      [–]CherrySlush 28 points29 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                      Good, I fucking love them.

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                                                                                                                        [–]Vyar 207 points208 points  (35 children)

                                                                                                                        Am I the only one worried that calling it Legion was deliberate and that there is no WD3? This whole lack of a main character thing combined with the absolutely bonkers amount of money GTA Online has made, worries me. Watch_Dogs is pretty much the only GTA-style game Ubisoft has, and you know they want that GTA Online money.

                                                                                                                        I have a sinking feeling that this is going to lean even heavier into the online multiplayer than the previous two games did. To the point where it becomes "GTA V without GTA V's story" and doubles down on the GTA Online elements, including the hugely profitable MTX system.

                                                                                                                        [–][deleted] 144 points145 points  (1 child)

                                                                                                                        They have the E in Legion in the logo stylized like a three.

                                                                                                                        [–]ionfromneon 33 points34 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                        I'm an idiot. I couldn't figure out why it was the way it is.

                                                                                                                        [–]NightbladeV1 36 points37 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                        Doesn't seem like that from the gameplay. Hoping it stays that way

                                                                                                                        [–]fockerj 65 points66 points  (10 children)

                                                                                                                        It’s true but recently ubisoft turned 180 and are actually the only greedy company that changed in a good way. I have high hopes for this game hopefully ubisoft delivers.

                                                                                                                        [–]Mornflare 19 points20 points  (5 children)

                                                                                                                        My first thought was them not being sure if they can pull all this off convincingly. By not calling it Watch Dogs 3: Legion or just Watch Dogs 3, they can potentially backtrack and eventually release a "third" game that goes back to a regular protagonist and just push Legion aside.

                                                                                                                        [–]ShaquilleOhNoUDidnt 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                        But it's literally called Watch Dogs: L3gion. They could just say they were going for a little kid typing effect or something idk. But it seems like it is the third one

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                                                                                                                            [–]ligmaManboi 19 points20 points  (5 children)

                                                                                                                            I need this as a movie, like mr bean or something around that

                                                                                                                            [–]DonutFace4 18 points19 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                            Prune Gang!

                                                                                                                            [–]Polary 67 points68 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                            How do you do fellow kids

                                                                                                                            [–]Insanity_Wolfe 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                            You bet your God damn ass I'm gonna have an entire squad of elite geriatric retirees that will save London, one bingo game at a time.

                                                                                                                            [–]powerscunner 21 points22 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                            Stock photo old lady is really ramping-up her game.

                                                                                                                            [–]Harleking31D20 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                            You better eat all the cookies next time, sweetie

                                                                                                                            [–]absumo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                            So ...uhm...where's the footage of her, somehow, hacking traffic lights from a rotary phone on a crazy long phone cord?

                                                                                                                            [edit] I find the lack of Murtaugh memes ...disappointing. [/edit]

                                                                                                                            [–]Yung_Val 26 points27 points  (2 children)

                                                                                                                            Will you have ti redo some missions and have to take alzheimers medicine?

                                                                                                                            [–]AWildEnglishman 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                                                                                                                            Lady you already broke my kneecaps once, what else do you want!?

                                                                                                                            [–]ttv-Don__Clean 31 points32 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                            Lmao! That is so silly

                                                                                                                            [–]hurter12 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                            If I ever get this game my team will be only be retired people

                                                                                                                            [–]OneVoorhees 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                                                                                                            I'm playing the whole fucking game just as an old lady

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